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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 1:54pm On Feb 21, 2016
UyiIredia:
Materialism is the creed of atheism and skepticism is its doctrine.
we have spiritual atheists ala Folykaze
we have buddhists who are atheists that shun materialism
we even have secular environmentalists that shun materialism


Skepticism can not be a doctrine. It is the opposite of having a doctrine. Not all atheists are skeptics. There is no doctrine in atheism.


Go and sleep
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by JackBizzle: 1:04pm On Feb 21, 2016
UyiIredia:
Seems you are much better at trolling than logicboy. His style is so obvious.
F4ck you. [size=3pt]And F4ck the predestined likes[/size]
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 12:43pm On Feb 21, 2016
italo:
Why should your definition/understanding of Atheism supercede the definition/understanding of another Atheist.

Are you the Grand Mufti or General Overseer of the religion of Atheism?

Atheism has given zero to mankind. It's useless.
If he said that there is atheist philosophy, then is wrong.


When two atheists debate, the right person is decided by logic.

When two christians debate, there is no right person is either decided by the pastor, or convoluted logic of the bible
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 12:39pm On Feb 21, 2016
UyiIredia:
Atheism also involves a lot of indoctrination. No o e exemplifies this more than atheists themselves who try to indoctrinate others with books into their way of thinking. For anyone to believe that atheism, is not a belief or philosophy that indoctrinated simply because it involves a lack of belief, takes a special kind of fool.
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Does atheism have any creed or central doctrines? How can it then contain indoctrination?
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 12:37pm On Feb 21, 2016
italo:
Oh, so even the hospice you claim (without proof) is in your village wasn't run by atheists.

Goes to buttress my point that Atheism is useless to humanity.
Of course! Atheism is useless in theory!

What do you think I have been trying to say?


You don't believe in fairies. You are an a-fairiest. But do you refer to yourself as an "a-fairiest"? No. There is no need for the word "a-fairiest"- you are not defined by your disbelief in fairies. Why then should there be the word "atheist"?
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That being said, christians were not the first to do hospices. So your original claim about the catholic church inventing hospices is a lie.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 12:29pm On Feb 21, 2016
italo:
You said Atheism "allows people break out of indoctrination and have an identity of their own."

False! There are tens millions of Atheists that are indoctrinated!

Face it.
This is where I agree with you. Atheism does not stop one from being indoctrinated.

The problem is that atheism itself is not indoctrination, however, christianity itself is indoctrination
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by JackBizzle: 11:20am On Feb 21, 2016
Reyginus:
Lol. To sleep? I thought your time is GMT+2.
Reyginus!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 6:42pm On Feb 20, 2016
italo:
I don't know if you read the links you posted or you just searched on Google for any negative financial news about the Church, then posted.

All that is in the links is allegations, arrests, surveys. I didn't see a single case of any one acting on behalf of the Church found guilty for anything.

Also, if I help my parish in offering collection, then steal part of the money, does that mean that the Charity works of the Catholic Church in my parish and all over the world are aimed at stealing money? Of course not. But you're bitter and scatter-brained. You can't understand that.
This guy ehh....you can lie for the catholic church.


The article tying the vatican to fronting for mafia money is what? It is a lie abi?

mtchew.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 6:34pm On Feb 20, 2016
italo:
I don't know what you stand for. You said there's an afterlife...yes or no?
I never said that there's an afterlife. I don't like this your strawman method of arguing. I stated that the villagers gave the terminally ill to the herbalist to help them pass on to the afterlife- the villagers believe it, while I do not.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 6:31pm On Feb 20, 2016
italo:
After 52 posts, only plaetton has has been able to say that atheism gives us philosophies (that he can't specify or mention)
And I would say that he is wrong. Atheism is just the disbelief in God. It is pretty much empty after that. In reality, there is no such thing as "atheist philosophy".


It would be like saying there are people that do not believe in fairies. We call them A-fairiests. Would there be anything like a-fairiest philosophy? No!! So why is there now atheist philosophy?
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 11:13am On Feb 20, 2016
mmsen:
The scandal at the Vatican bank - http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/3029390a-5c68-11e3-931e-00144feabdc0.html

Vatican Bank 'allowed clergy to act as front for Mafia' - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vatican-bank-allowed-clergy-to-act-as-front-for-mafia-2158692.html

Vatican bank image hurt as JP Morgan closes account
- http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-vatican-bank-idUKBRE82I0P820120319

Vatican Makes Money Laundering List Of U.S. State Department - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/09/vatican-money-laundering_n_1334704.html

Embezzlement Is Found in Many Catholic Dioceses - http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/05/us/05church.html
Italo, come and deny this one na?
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 11:12am On Feb 20, 2016
Reyginus:
I don't think it's honest trying to defend the atrocities committed in the name of the church in the past. You can say it's anti Christian move reflecting the hijack of the church by devilish men. Trying to say it never happened is not only dishonest but also inhuman.
^^^
@ Italo, please learn not lie and prostituute yourself for the catholic church. Can you see the honesty from your mate, Reyginus?


Good one, Reyginus
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 9:35am On Feb 20, 2016
Kazna69:
Realest stuff I've seen on here. Preach bro. The Catholic Church is responsible. I remember the Spanish inquisition, the other one where they go on witch hunts killing without hard evidence, even going after intellectuals like Nostradamus, Da Vinci, & other smart people of their time. They suppress knowledge, cutting out the Apocryphas & the book of Enoch, changing Bible text all in a plot to gain control & amass wealth, power.
I was a catholic myself....until I read about catholic history
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 9:10am On Feb 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
The Old Testament of the Bible was written centuries ago and two different verses in the book of Psalms described those who didnt believe in God as fools - meaning atheists must have existed at that time or even before it . So I agree with the topic smiley
Good, good.


grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 8:52am On Feb 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Oh come on ... how was that asslicking ? He's a fellow christian
Say something about the topic? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 8:40am On Feb 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Kai ... bullet through the heart .
Remember your advice on azzlicking wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 8:11am On Feb 20, 2016
UyiIredia:
Now you know how I feel discussing with atheists. But then we must discuss for the sake of fence-sitters.
Kettle, pot, black. grin grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Anita Finalises Divorce From Pastor Chris Oyakhilome by JackBizzle: 8:11am On Feb 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Dont forget Anita , I think , oversaw the church abroad . She is also a pastor and an author of Christian books but off course male chauvinism - seeing Pastor Chris as the superior - will come into play .
Very true
Christianity Etc › Re: Anita Finalises Divorce From Pastor Chris Oyakhilome by JackBizzle: 7:44am On Feb 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
The bible mainly focused on adultery as a reason for divorce . Off course a couple can be divorced if one of the spouse is diabolical , abusive , etc . In my church , spouses who are diabolical are usually saved and confess their sins openly so for us its a non issue .

But understand my point . He is a man of God , so more is expected - he is seen as a role model and spiritually close to God . So if the head of the church "derails" , the congregation would be somewhat divided or affected in some way .
Saved?

So you advice a woman to go back to her abusive husband (who has beaten her severally) if the husband "repents" or "gets saved" at church.


Anyway, I agree with you on the issue of the head of a church being a role model
Christianity Etc › Re: Anita Finalises Divorce From Pastor Chris Oyakhilome by JackBizzle: 7:19am On Feb 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Brilliant , very nice . But I fear for his congregation . Wont they be befuddled over his genuity as a man of God following this new development?
So you believe that cheating is the only grounds for divorce?

What about -
an abusive spouse?
A spouse who murdered someone?
A ritualist spouse?
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 7:16am On Feb 20, 2016
italo:
Aha! So you know there is a next life. grin

Confused bitter thing.
Discussing with you is futile. undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 7:15am On Feb 20, 2016
italo:
Summary: Atheism is useless. It only brings bitterness, emptiness and destruction.
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Christianity Etc › Re: PETITION: I Stand With Manny Pacquiao Against LGBT Bullies by JackBizzle: 11:11pm On Feb 19, 2016
@ Kingsfield and Amberon

Please, go and sit down. America and their gay rights are moving forward.

Dollar is rising towards 400 naira per dollar and you are here shouting and pushing religious beliefs that most modern people don't care about.

Pacman is worth millions of dollars. He does not need your help. And gays in America do not care about you.



Let us Nigerians focus on serious things. How do we survive Buhari economics?
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 10:56pm On Feb 19, 2016
italo:
Mention the Nigerian hospice you're talking about. And tell us if it was run by Atheists.

And provide proof that the Catholic Church gets its charity money illegally...bitter thing.
You must be quite ignorant of the corrupt politics that the ancient popes engaged in? You are truly a brainwashed fellow. Even your username (Italo is short for italy) shows subservience to Rome (the vatican). You sound like the ancient altar boys in the Borgias play- groomed and brainwashed for servitude to the church.


As for hospice, in my village and up till today, we have a "herbalist" who looks after strong cases of illness. He helps them pass on to the next life. The herbalist and his disciples feed and wash the patients till they die.

Guy. smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 10:50pm On Feb 19, 2016
italo:
If Atheism isn't a rival religion, why did you compare the ages of Atheism and Catholicism?

If the Catholic Church suppressed science, why was a Catholic priest Fr George Lemaitre the first person to propounded the big bang theory? Why are 35 craters on the moon named after Jesuits? Why did a Catholic Priest Jean-Baptiste Lamarck prefigure the theory of evolution? Why are Thomas Aquinas and Roger Bacon credited with helping to develop the scientific method?

If the Catholic Church invented torture devices, why did torture devices exist before the Catholic Church?

The Crusades were a beautiful invention. We need another Crusade against ISIS.

By the way, it's very telling that you can't point out a single benefit Atheism has offered humanity.
Let's not derail our discussion!

Did the catholic church invent some torture devices? YES! (eg heretic fork)

Now....like I said, atheism is not a rival church or religion. I referred to the age of atheism and catholic church because it is commonly misunderstood that atheism is a reaction to the bible and christ.


Atheism is not a religion. It is not meant to better your life. It is not meant to give life purpose. It is only a philosophical stance on the non-existence of god.


Compare humanism to religion. That will make for a richer discussion where catholicism will end up looking like a relic from the dark ages
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 9:26pm On Feb 19, 2016
italo:
Serious? Yet Atheism waited for Catholic Church to come and invent hospices, modern university system, become the single biggest charity organization in the world, etc

Atheism must be useless then.
Wait......fact checking......

The catholic church did not invent charity. The catholic wealth from which they do charity is an ill-gotten wealth. Political skulduggery, Land grabs, brainwashing for offering etc.


The catholic church did not invent hospices. Many early society had organised ways to care for the dying. Your Nigerian culture and ancestry had a version of hospice. See how catholic church has destroyed your brain? You even deny your own culture.


smh. Italo
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 9:07pm On Feb 19, 2016
italo:
Serious? Yet Atheism waited for Catholic Church to come and invent hospices, modern university system, become the single biggest charity organization in the world, etc

Atheism must be useless then.
Atheism is not a rival church or religion.


By the way, why not mention the torture devices, genocidal crusades and suppression of knowledge (science) tactics your catholic church invented?

grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Has Ancient Roots And Is Not ‘modern Invention’, Claims New Text by JackBizzle: 8:27pm On Feb 19, 2016
@Italo, atheism is older than your catholic church, your bible and your Christ.


Ramen!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by JackBizzle: 1:52pm On Feb 19, 2016
Tufanja:
I regularly get mentions but when I click on it...empty message... I always wonder what bad was in there that it was censored even before I could read what was addressed to me or even can think to complain about it.

cool
Maybe someone is sending you very sexy messages!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by JackBizzle: 1:22pm On Feb 18, 2016
Nihilist:
I don know say na you by your writing style.

Depends on when you dey around.I work in London but I don't live in city. I'm out of contract by the end of April.

If I'm in contract and in London when you're around, I can meet up for a drink or something
No wahala but na june/july I dey target.....we'll work something out
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by JackBizzle: 12:34pm On Feb 18, 2016
Nihilist:
For Chics, Sweden.

The chics there are just pure filth. And I don't think I ever saw an ugly Swede...and they seem to love Blacks.

For Culture, Italy...Florence in particular.
Absolutely loved it there.

For partying, Shagaluf Magaluf in Spain or Ayia Napa in Cyprus are unbeatable for packed clubs, cheap booze, great music and STDs are optional

Prague and Berlin are also good options, but I've only been on stag dos, so I don't know what the solo waka is like.

I've heard Paris is also pretty bumping...
I will go to Sweden. Clubbing don tire me. Sweden it is. grin

Alcohol wan kill me for Ibiza.....na headache/hangover I take return london in 2012.


Thanks bro. You've been helpful! wink


I no mind make we see for london sef!! (I hope you know its logicboy?) cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by JackBizzle: 9:37am On Feb 18, 2016
Jayriginal, mazaje, nihilist, sagamite etc

Any of una know a good EU country to have holiday in? I'm going to London soon but I have some extra cash to add in another European destination.

Cheers.

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