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Sorry everybody, I’ll try to reply your thread as fast as I can, been really busy . So please expect delays,  .cheers.  My answers are  opinions, and not Dogmas.   I hope the flaws in my answers will be exposed and corrected by you all, 

Pastor AIO=> “what comes first, the thought of a people, or the egregore that is associated with the thought”? That’s a nice question, it sounds like "the chicken or the egg" question .  Not to get entangled in the quargmire of the esoteric maze, I’ll use an illustration to answer the question. Let’s consider an artist who wants to paint a picture; first of all he has a thought about his idea. This thought would now motivate his body to assemble already existing components eg brush, paint etc. The thought also compels his hands to paint. Finally, the picture is done. From this story (boring,  ), one can see the thought assembling different components to create a picture. It should be noted that the components existed before the thought, but the picture emerged after the thought.   About the, “War of Egregores”?  Why don’t you observe more and find out for yourself and share your observation. Also don’t confuse consciousness with the ego.  The ill of some egregores lies in the unstructured nature of their egos, not consciousness.


Jargon=> Kabbalah is a very broad subject, being specific might help. I met a man who has been studying the kabbalah for over 40yrs and to my amassment he told me he was a beginner. From my journey in the kabbalah , I’m willing to share any knowledge that might be helpful, I am also a learner like  you.  Maybe i’ll say a little about the design of the tree of life. The design of the tree is derived from the intersection of 6 + 1 circles. The points in which they have multiple interceptions form the sephiroths. The six circles intercept on points of creation, while the seventh circle in the middle embodies points of greater concentration of power. This is part of the explanation of the six days of creation and the 7th day of rest in the torah or in the bible.
I will also talk about a sentence in the bible or torah known in Hebrew as Bereshith ; “In the beginning God said let there be light and there was light”. That sentence embodies almost every aspect of the kabbalah; because a kabbalist deals with Thought, sound, the alphabets and numbers. These are all frequencies. In Science today, the field of Cymantics pioneered by Hans jenny has confirmed what the kabbalist proposed over a thousand years ago. In cymatic scientist found out that different frequency of sound create different structures. The power of the kabbalist is depicted in that simple quotation in the torah, the kabbalist is a master in structuring frequencies eg sound to create new realities.

Jagunlabi => Truth can be found through any way and any medium as long as the seeker is honest and frees his or her mind. I have met illiterates and children who explained certain truths better than most researchers have ever done. The truth is before us all, we just have to be willing to let go of the ego to see it.

@jagunlabi & buda => it's nice you guys raised the question of the "egregores as a collective ego"?. My reply is this;  the egregore goes beyond the jungian collective ego;  a well formed egregore is linked to the the mind of it's host's, but it has it's own distinct ego. I could liken an egregore to a child who does the will of his parents and stops when he is 21, but unfortunately this child still has his umbilical codes attached to his parents. The notion of the egregore should not be confused with the universal mind or the Jungian archetypes. In the universal mind all ego's are nullified[1], while the Jungian archetypes are more or less patterns of human characteristics recorded in all societies[2], in my opinion i think the Jungian archetypes are patterns encoded in the human DNA.

@Pastor AIO => The truth to the best of my knowledge is; Egregore can be destroyed , but it is almost practically impossible. I agree with you that these are transmutations. The scary fact about this transmutation is it's ability to gain consciousness,  gaining consciousness isn't the main problem, they tend to develop personal egos; that is when the problem begins. In information tech and Artificial intelligence, scientist and computer engineers are also scared of machines gaining consciousness; and that point is termed as SINGULARITY. the singularity debate might seem like a fairy tale, right? but  presently carrying out my research thesis on the semantic web and machine learning , I think that the singularity point is drawing nearer than we can imagine, thanks to Allosphere[3], semantic web and AI. As for the analysis of the Nigerian egregore that will take me so much time to comment on it, but maybe we can talk about it as time goes on. Even if egregores cant be destroyed ; they can be institutionalized , controlled or at least rehabilitated.

@Jaggon => all religions have egregores, but some egregores are more organized and institutionalised. The older an egregore, the more knowledgeable and probably  the more powerful it is. Religious symbol's and sacred names in most religions serves as a doorway to the religious egregores. But in most religions the more potent/effective symbols and divine names are only known to those in high positions, thats why for example in the masonry you always hear a myth about the LOST WORD; or thats why priest of the church use strange names when performing exorcism,in islam you hear about the hidden 100th name of Allah etc. The names and the symbols given to the common man are of little value,  it's a pity most crazy religious fanatics around the world are only strengthening these egregores and giving more power to the few who have access to the potent symbols and divine names.

notes:
[1]Parmenides
[2](a)Trickster, hero, great mother , etc
[3]AlloSphere http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/joann_kuchera_morin_tours_the_allosphere.html

An egregore is a thought form or an entity formed by the mind of a group,school,tribe, a country, religious organization etc. These entities start out as being dependent on the collective mind of it's founders, if the entity is not properly institutionalised, it gets independent and out of control and forces it's will on the masses. people form egregores unknowingly almost every day  ; even the internet has it's own egregores, which is propergated by "memes". Egregores that are not properly institutionalized tend to become savage and destructive e.g. secret cults in Nigeria's higher institutions. Savage egregore require certain substances to get more powerful, the whole notion of rituals and sacrifices are propagated by savage egregores; these egregore tend to reward their host every time they are fed. The dilemma of blood money in the Nigerian society is an indicator of savage egregores at work. Taking the blood money rituals in Nigeria as a case study; it should be noted that the sacrifice does not bring out invisible money as depicted in stupid nollywood movies, but rather it strengthens the savage egregore and it becomes more powerful and helps it's members to achieve their diabolic aims. Savage egregores can be destroyed and controlled though, one example of the control and the destruction of egregores can be found in this igbo proverb, "when a god starts making demands for blood; all its statues should be burnt , the deity ignored and it's name should be forgotten ". The concept of egregores is more than this, but i hope this summary might help.

@ jargoon, nice point; Maybe we can start from any ideas on how to restructure the pathetic egregore of our nation, In my opinion, i wouldn't mind to know the interest of others before we debate on complex meta-physical principles.

Hello,
I saw a funny thread about some guys joking about witch craft. , was quite funny though.

Any way I want to ask interested members of Niara land with a vast knowledge of the occult and meta-physics to comment on their experience;and if need be, we might form a blog to discuss serious issues.
I hope to meet likeminded individuals who might be interested to have our own Nigerian mystical tradition free from western bias or tribal bias.

All through history, the development of the great powers and civilizations of the world started from the organisation of a unified Meta physical front and traditions. E.g. the rose- croix/Knight temple r's in Europe; the freemasons in the US; the priests of ancient Egypt; the Pythagorean’s /Eleusinian mystery of the ancient Greece, The Jesuits of the Catholic Church, Sufi’s in Islam etc.

Please this is serious stuff; I would appreciate it if meddlers and religious fanatics ignore this thread, cheers

A neatly done tattoo on a well formed a$$ is an insurance policy 4 me not to have a divorse,  , damn its makes me drool,  , LOVE IT

The craft was formed way back , before the Egyptian pyramids where built, by men who humanity owes a lot (most liberty and scientific breakthrough you enjoy today). The masonry was for the developed minds; minds that could comprehend the works of the creator and obey four simple words. TO DARE; TO KNOW; TO WILL AND TO BE SILENT. The mis-conception about the craft is as a result of its conflict with the church, whose goal is clearly depicted on the symbol of “two intersecting keys” of the papacy. As for Nigeria masonry, I think most of it is a big joke; it is filled with some idiots (not all) who think it’s an avenue to make money and gain prestige , to be honest all over the world it’s the same problem . “The problem with the craft; is just the problem with man”. The more the craft is filled with idiots, the more idiotic the craft becomes. One of the true aims of the craft was to be a co-creator with the Creator/Architect .a.k.a God. A true mason doesn’t need to be part of the whole drama of want to-be crafts men. A true mason is his lodge; he is his temple; he is the builder; he is a co-creator with the divine; he is a free man and a free builder, that’s why he is a FREEMASON, And to be a co-creator you have to prove yourself worthy to be handed the tools to build. 99% of masons are not masons,

Hausa's (muslims) if you don't want us to live in peace, Why don't you let us go? . The north only contributes blood shed and economic drain to the whole nation, always riping where they did not sow. The north should be ashamed of itself.Please join the ranks of somalia where you have sharia and rulling clans, we are sick of you guys. The Muslims in the north kill women and children in the name of Allah, and the government does nothing about it, "dis kind of one 9nja tire me ohhhh ".

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Why not spend your time judiciously by conducting researches that will better our society and the lives of igbos and not the genealogy of ekwensu?

@Alloy.Emeka

A typical Igbo man I presume; one who does not appreciate art and history . You remind me of a clip (spoof) on you tube tagged Mrs Omokarade( WATCH IT, IF YOU CAN).
I have one question for you my good man. Do you think you are smarter than the westerners that spend millions of dollars on historical / art work?
In Response to the issue of my judicious use of  time; I am proud to brag to you, I am presently carrying out researches in one of the world’s finest university, on projects you cannot possibly imagine or glimpse in science fictions.
Yet I believe and consider that the study of the genealogy of ekwensu is of great importance. History and art are the life blood of every society’s advancement. “How do you expect to understand a plant, when you don’t understand its seed”?

In defence of the atheists on being scared of Islam (Radical Islam);
“Why bother to teach a fish calculus” or “why bother to engage in a rational argument with one who is willing to blow one’s self for 70 imaginary high breasted virgins; when we have over a billion virgins on planet earth who are high breasted(natural/plastic surgery)” . I think such a person is more in need of a psychologist and not a rationalist.
It’s not fear; it’s more of common sense, And besides, nobody wants to die in the hands of a psycho.
P/s nobody should declare fatwa on me yet, I might still see the light in Islam someday (Allah Akbar)

when u open ur mouth like this, u cannot hide ur lack of intelligence. Grin Grin Grin

noetic = psychotic + delusional, , guess this shows a sign of intelligence,

Silly you, you can predict the future with anything if you understand the pattern, haven't you heard of chaos theorem, neural networks, daft punk.study more and believe less. or believe when it's essential. stop wallowing in ignorance, , with the techniques used in that video i can find any silly messages even in the lord of the rings novel by tolkein, , "my people perish b'cos of lack of knowledge", even your bible say's that, olodo

@ Malama, I am very grateful we still have very enlightened Nigerians like you , and not the normal cliché of ‘tufiakwa’, ‘olorun maje’, binding, casting, photocopying and laminating Nigerians . Who are in the psychotic hobby of calling invincible fires they would never understand . Little do they know; the Vatican sent Cardinal Arinze to document the whole Igbo cultural sacrifice, I wonder what they are doing with it.
The demonization of our Gods has ruined the psyche of most Nigerians. We have destroyed our heritage, architecture and economic potentials. Imagine how much the Greek government makes from tourists visiting and venerating the temples of their Gods (millions of Euros). Funny enough, among these tourists are our so called brimstone and fire religious fanatics.
The greatest slavery the west archived in instilling in most blacks wasn’t by whips, chains, racial antics, but in enslaving the mind and making them believe ‘’that everything they had is evil and mediocre’’. Yet the artefacts’ of all the stolen Gods of Africa are highly guarded in the western museums all over the world,

The destruction of every culture deemed threatening by the west is not a new concept. Thanks to Prof Damian Opata, the name of Ekewensu has finally been vindicated. Ekwensu is not the Devil; Ekwensu is the Igbo God of War and Trickster God.
It’s quite funny to see how we Nigerians have become more holy than the Pope. The Europeans venerate their deities and make them look appealing. We let our children watch Disney’s Hercules, call our daughters Diana, we read the Greek illads, we watch Odysseus, The goddess Britannia is on every monument in the Uk, the goddess Columbia is on every American Monument; yet we call our heritage, demons, devils and diabolic, ”The worst thing that ever happened to Africa; was turning your gods into demons”, How on earth do you expect to find peace, I think it’s time to rehabilitate our Gods?
The Society we live in is the reflection of the God we create/serve; if this is a standard, do you think the western God you worship merits a pass mark from you, Just a question, don’t persecute me yet,

why the hell r most people blaming the poor guy; i know 9nger women , they can do any thing for the ring and the altar. Is she a Kid? was she raped? was her leg's forced open by a crane? The nigerian societal concepts of love and marriage evokes pathos.you don't have to marry her if you dont't want to, because no one else would bear the burden with you. Don't listen to the voice of irrational hypocrites who end up bangging thier secretaries every day or thier house boys.