₦airaland Forum

jaephoenix:
Ignorance like this is unbelievable!
I don't want to defending people cos I wasn't there but do you have an idea of the diagnosis? No. And I don't know but I have an idea what it is. In my experience, I found out patient narratives are always tinged with falsehood. And I take both sides of an argument

Brendaniel:
Niger issue is not supposed to be Nigeria's problem, so both you and Tinubu should not have disturbed yourselves about that, Niger is a sovereign country, Nigeria has so many issues to deal with that Tinubu has not even addressed or has addressed wrongly and you are yet to criticize him on such matters affecting the citizens of Nigeria, Niger is not Nigeria's problem...

About the dollar issue, go back and read your first comment, you said dollar is not the problem, and you said Nigerians should start producing more and if we produce more we will not need the dollars, well let me you we will still need the dollars.

Indirectly You are blaming the citizens for needing the dollars by telling them to produce what they want to use, my question is what has the present government even put in place to support local manufacturers, you have not talked about high cost of production.

No customer likes to buy an expensive good, if the imported one is still cheaper than locally produced then the aim for producing locally has been largely defeated....

You are just telling the citizens to produce without holding the government for their failure.

Lastly it is the government's responsibility to make sure that the FX market is favourable and available for its citizens, any country that the Fx market is not favourable and available to it's citizen the government of that country has failed, if a country's productiveness is solely the responsibility of the citizens then why do we have a government ?

Tinubu's government has failed, all the indices for failure has been met by Tinubu's government, if you cannot call a spade a spade then there is no point giving advice to the citizens....

jaephoenix:
If an american is saying this, I'd forgive him. But a nigerian making this claim is funny. Have you accosted an officer wielding a gun and he'll tell you that he'll shoot you and nothing would happen? I guess you have. Do you think he's playing? Lol. Imagine!

jaephoenix:
I know you're literate so I guess you read the part where I said docs don't make laws. And such laws mandate us not to treat patients without ID. Please take off your hate tinted glasses and read slowly

jaephoenix:
Did you also read in my previous posts where I said those police hotline numbers are useless? Or you wanna blow hot air?

jaephoenix:
My primary obligation is the patients, not the police. I just told you that those police numbers don't work? You can choose to ignore that part

KingOfAmebo:
Mumu, check all the dates not just one, the date you referred to in November was his reply to Tinubu, stop displaying your mumulity online.

Brendaniel:
I'm not discouraging production, my point is stop blaming Nigerians for dollar scarcity, channel your blame to the government, and please show me any of your previous posts that criticized Tinubu since he got into office, mind you I have gone through your posts since May 29th to screenshot all your posts about Tinubu Incase you want to edit anything, please prove me wrong....

Shattuck:
I agree with you 💯, the problem with Nigeria has always been nobody holds anybody accountable especially those in public service, reason why I am not that emphatic with Nigerian doctors when they cry for better welfare from the govt, even though they have legal right to demand better welfare I am not that emphatic with them.

KingOfAmebo:
You always believe your own lies, see below screenshots, take note of the words "again" and "replies" and both happened before the NBA conference...the internet never forgets.

KingOfAmebo:
The fact that u think it is interpreted as threats shows how dèad ur brain is.




















Judging from your response to my post, it is obvious and clear that you all failed English Language in school.

If you had comprehensive abilities you will understand that my post is about the dangers in his actions that could affect his family if not cautioned. Some of you suffering from brain tumors interpreted it as me threatening him and his family while some of you that needed urgent brain surgery say dss will track me, for what exactly? You think dss is as clueless as you are?

KingOfAmebo:
who was Tinubu referring to when he said they will "Labor in Vain"? The last time I checked Tinubu attacked Peter Obi more than he did against Atiku. Infact, Tinubu threw the first punch in his Lagos rally.

Cmanforall:
Forget it. You will not win anything, especially from private hospitals.

Do you know their specialty?
You think because it is 'a hospital', then any case will be treated there? Do you know about their facilities?

I say again, go to government hospitals, especially if you are thinking of heading to court later, not privately, because you will lose.
What the private hospitals may do if they don't want to treat the gunshot patient is to refer to a government hospital (they give you a letter, and that is it). Then you have wasted your time there and if unfortunately something bad happens and you head to court, just tell me how you will win

Kobojunkie:
There is no such thing as a wrong choice in a woman. Your friend made that woman his choice. She didn't have a gun to his head. So don't twist my words to support these nonsense ideas of yours.

LadyRosa:
Unfortunately, you will never stop going to an igbo man's shop even in your afterlife.

jaephoenix:
Its funny how an outsider that has zero knowledge of how hospital dynamics work insist he knows everything. I was threatened with arrest because I was late in reporting a stab case(not even gunshot). The police wanted me to leave the hospital by 12am in the night, and hunt down the nearest police station to report the case. Whether I'm the only doc around or there are unconscious cases on ventilators, is all irrelevant, or possible emergencies coming at that point as outpatient, are all irrelevant. Imagine if you are the hospital owner or a patient that came in an emergency, do you know the chaos this has caused?

Rebelutionary:
We can go on and on with this and you can choose to solely place the blame on citizens who in your estimation aren't applying the law to their circumstance which I don't completely agree with! That is choosing to see only one perspective in my humble opinion!

It is in this same couuntry that "bail is free" but you still pay for what is free! How many you wan sue biko? Should the police even make statements about not harrasing citizens? Isn't this a no-brainer? But does this still occur frequently?

The issue of medical personnel doing this or that is irrelevant in this case as you find this malaise manifest in every sphere of our polity! Your experience is an exception within the plethora of cases that have gone unheard of outside this unfortunate case!

Nigerians dont leverage the law because of obvious reasons and in such a case this conversation should be sorted by relevant bodies (Police and NMA) not dragging innocent citizens into it. An honest conversation on why hospitals even government hospitals will ask for police report in a case of a gunshot wound should be the focus and ironing out knotty issues should be expedient!

A person who goes to the hospital in an emergency doesn't go there to "follow up laws" that naturally should work if people who are saddled with responsibilities do what they are suppose to do. Is that what is obtainable in climes that work where the need to resort to self help in taking on legal action is usually an exception and not a rule?

The minister of interior made a statement about clearing backlogs of passports and we saw how he followed up vigoroulsy to see it to fruition if not his statement would have been just like any other. And you will be surprised if there isnt an intentional concretization of this move we will be back to status quo just like other "initial gragra" policies. Statements are statements unless enforced by bodies concerned and not passing the whole bulk to citizens who don't know any better.

jaephoenix:
Patient was brought in by 11pm. Passed on circa 12am. That is a small hospital, the name is Anume Hospital, Eleme. Year circa 2008. The only staff on duty then was myself and 2 nurses, and a cleaner. All of us were busy with this patient. Plus the hospital was chock full with cases. Also police hotline numbers are useless. You and I know that. So what did you expect me to do? Mind you I wanted to report the case as I'm leaving duty by 8am when another doc is already around

jaephoenix:
This case of cultists invading and threatening medical personnel is common. They bring in a dying or dead colleague and tell the doc their colleague must not die no matter what. Happens in UPTH Port Harcourt regularly.

jaephoenix:
You are further exposing your ignorance of hospital dynamics.
1. Imagine a hospital treating patients without ID. In a school environment. Are you aware there is a standing order not to treat patients without IDs because outsiders masquerade as patients just to get free treatment? So take your issue to the school senate who made such laws. Doctors dont make laws we only obey them. When the consequences of disobeying them comes, you'll be nowhere to be.
2. My hospital render help to patients without cards but there are many hospitals that don't do that. Why? Many if such patients receive the care ad refuse to pay once well. I can't count the number of stab wounds that leave the hospital and refuse payments after getting better. In the end, the hospital has to surcharge the poor front desk Officer who brought their cards to the doctor. If you own the hospital what would you do? Its okay running your mouth from outside

caracas:
I ask you again , is Ghana a producing nation? What does South Africa produce? What does Kuwait , Bahrain, uae ,Saudi etc produce?How did Nigeria become the no 1 economy in Africa during the Gej era, in spite of the fact that we were not a producing nation?
For your info the only active producing nations in the world today are china, India and the Asian tigers..
Even the no 1 economy in the world today is no longer an active producer.In any case the buhari regime placed a ban on importation of several goods into the country but rather than help the economy it destroyed the economy, even though Nigerian producers were created.
Truth of the matter is, the Apc have been very poor in managing the economy n most of the reasons we are behind economically are self made n ill thought out policies by the Apc government, not a lack of production nor infrastructural deficits..
The Apc government’s poor economic policies is solely responsible for our current economic woes

KingOfAmebo:
Same way he is putting Peter Obi's children at risk for constantly attacking him, You lots forget Peter Obi also has family but the idiot keep attacking him but cry when they mention his own family.

Kobojunkie:
There is nothing expanded about any of what you described as it revealed a terrible illogical approach to reasoning issues. This man choose to not only marry a woman who probably came in without a job of her own into the marriage, but at the same time he shifted his focus from making money to take care of the needs of the family to instead coming up with ways to purchase luxury items he couldn't afford. Yet somehow you want to believe instead that it was not his fault? Don't you see how close-minded that in fact is?

ostartruth:
Within a span of two to four years dollar rose like prick that saw a naked woman under buhari and never dropped until now and you think it's all because we don't produce? Under Jonathan what did we produce that kept dollars hovering around 150 to 200 for over four years

zedegit:
You didn't consider insecurity.
Fulani bandits are killing Benue farmers and other places.

caracas:
You are very stewpid , was Nigeria a producing nation when obj, Gej n yaradua were president? Instead of you to call your useless president a dumb head you’re here lying just to defend an old , dumb,illiterate criminal

Tayorshd87:
Which kind debt be that?
The woman collect loan go build house 😳 or play naija bet??
Wey make d man close all shops 🤔

Abeg na which movie u watch again mthee

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
P&id play psychological Warfare and

Cmanforall:
Not in Nigeria

You cannot win this case if it involves a private hospital


Gunshot wounds should think of government hospital first. Hopefully they won't be on strike.

Brendaniel:
Oga, China does not produce all they use and consume, in fact their import to export ratio is 95:98 percent, if you need data I will present it for you, I never supported GEJ, I hated his goverment and criticized it, you can check my post pre 2015 here on nairaland, same way I am doing Tinubu's own, that is because I am not a political hypocrite like you....

Shattuck:
this is not the first time the police has issued this kind of statement, the police needs to work on why this kind of order are hardly followed by its officers, and the hospitals,while these hospitals are inhumane for rejecting accident victims, they have a clarion call to serve and that call should supercede any police fear.

Rebelutionary:
Neither you nor GanagiBitrus is wrong following your back and forth! He is speaking from the obtainable realistic point of view while you are speaking from the idealistic view which you and I know isn't the obtainable.

Examples will suffice: one IG after another has made these boast whenever they assume office
A. Recalling all police personnel from VIPs and you know its just blowing hot air
B. Dismantling "illegal checkpoints" all over the country. How far with that?
C. The police have no right to check your phone. Lol yimu

You cant blame Nigerians who don't buy that statement when there are a litany of statements that don't involve life that don't pass a day or two of enforcement and then we are back to status quo

The Police needs to liase with the Nigerian Medical Association body to workout a working framework in such situations. This doctors are learned people who by their sworn oath are bound to save lives and if they do not in such situations, the questions should be why are they not. There should be an open conversation on grey areas of uderstanding between both bodies.

It is not about making statements because we have an unfortunate incident on our hands and then make more when another occurs or transferring litigation responsibility (like you are advocating) to ordinary Nigerians who won't take that route for obvious reasons!

Suing is medicine after death!!