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nurey:
The 4 cylinder GDi engines from 2011 to 2015 were very problematic due to build quality. 2016 upwards got a bit better but anything GDi if you can avoid it, better for you

Ah, thanks bro

Please is it true that kia rio even 2018 model and hyundai elantra and sonata always have engine issues? Someone said if you buy them you will be changing engine almost every year, pls need your opinion

kingreign:
The reasons why cars pull legs aren't far fetched.
1. Ignorant and/or carefree owner,
2. Wicked mechanic,
3 wicked/deceitful part seller.
4. Wicked/careless evil govt.

That said. 10th gen accord from 2013 upwards to not pull legs.

Actually i guess you meant 9th gen upwards, because 10th gen is from accord 2018 upwards

sooperrescue:
Since 2011, I have been driving a Range Rover Sports and till today, I drive and repair and recover it across Nigeria. The truth is that there are no good cars to drive in Nigeria. The car that is suitable for the country is Volvo 760 Gle, 1987 model. Fuel, engine oil is available for the particular vehicle. Euro 5 fuel cannot work on a 2012 Toyota and so I wonder why I will buy a car and use my money to destroy it

Bro really dont understand this fuel part not working on 2012 toyota, are you saying all toyotas in Nigeria like the 2012, our fuel is not compatible with them and the fuel is killing them?

SarkinYarki:
Oga I give people tear rubber cars as gifts so shut up . You think I am anybody in your lineage mate ? Think again

Tear me one rubber car na

Babatundehy:
I most likely got a very well maintained unit, the sonata has a different suspension design, that might be why the problem you speak of is uncommon with it, enthusiasts have argued a good maintenance culture will prevent failure, that is, replacing at the first sign of failure. Honda's are great, but I don't love CVTs, what 2015/2016 model do you intend to get?

The CVT matter tire me, been driving for years now but had no idea automatic still have different types which includes this CVT, is anything wrong with it? Is it all honda models that are CVT? Wanted to go for the 2015 or 2016 Honda accord.
This Hyundai elantra or sonata i was eyeing them too, but the issue of lack of availability of parts and mechanics for that brand incase of anything is the issue.

kingreign:
Next time, pls, take time to understand what is asked before jumping and trying to pour out syllabus.
Your response to what the OP said and I responded to are totally unrelated. Torque steer is different from leg pull.

Lol bro even though the write up was long, but the guy still made a good input, so lets cut him some slack atleast abeg.

RyanAutomotive:
Short answer: that “leg-pull” you keep seeing is most often what mechanics call torque-steer / a pulling/jerk under acceleration, not a mysterious brand curse. It’s common on FWD cars and can show up on Hondas, Toyotas and Lexus alike. 

What usually causes it (things to suspect and check)
• Uneven drive forces (driveshaft/CV setup), worn suspension bushings, ball-joints or tie-rods. 
• Worn engine/transmission mounts, bad CV joints, uneven/defective tyres or alignment, dragging brake or wheel-bearing issues. 
• In Nigeria people also report aftermarket/substandard suspension/steering parts (ball-joints/control arms) making the problem show up more. 

Which car to pick (practical view)
• Camry 2013 — solid, easier/cheaper to maintain in Nigeria, fewer surprises if well inspected.
• Honda 2015/2016 (direct Belgium) — generally reliable, but some owners report torque-steer/jerk complaints on certain models — so insist on a clean PPI and road-test.
• Lexus ES350 — more refinement (and price); same mechanical family as Toyota so still can show the same symptoms if worn.
If you want the safest bet for low headache Camry or a properly-inspected Lexus if budget allows — but the deciding factor is the condition and service history, not the badge.

Pre-purchase checklist (must-do before import)
1. Get the VIN and full service/accident history; verify odometer. 
2. Ask for a video of a road-test showing acceleration, straight line at 20–80 km/h and steering feel.
3. Insist on a pre-purchase inspection (PPI) that checks: suspension (ball joints, control arms, bushings), engine/trans mounts, CVs, brake drag, wheel bearings, tyres, alignment and ECU fault codes. 
4. Check for heavy aftermarket parts (replace with OEM where possible) and underbody rust/damage. 
5. If you see pulling on the road-test, ask the inspector to isolate: swap tyres left↔right, check play in steering/suspension, and test with load to reproduce the pull. 

Final practical tip: don’t reject a good model just because of hearsay — buy based on inspection results. If you want, send the VIN(s) and any road-test clips you have; we can run a checklist and advise whether to import or pass.

Regards,
Ryan Automotive Limited — Precision. Transparency. Excellence.
📍 Lagos, Nigeria | +234 911 306 9560 | ryanautomotivelimited@gmail.com

Thanks for your input, really appreciate and it was pretty informative, especially the what car to pick idea, thanks

kingreign:
The reasons why cars pull legs aren't far fetched.
1. Ignorant and/or carefree owner,
2. Wicked mechanic,
3 wicked/deceitful part seller.
4. Wicked/careless evil govt.

That said. 10th gen accord from 2013 upwards to not pull legs.

Ok so i should go for the 2015 or 2016 accord, thanks for the assurance, let me rest from overhyped toyota.

Good day car professionals and enthusiats in the house.

Please i want to upgrade from a corolla 2010 to a direct belgium Honda 2015 or 2016, but the leg pull matter convo all over discouraged me, so thought of going for a camry 2013 to avoid leg pull.

But three days ago i saw a lexus Es350 leg pull like honda, and just today saw a corolla 06 leg pull like honda, i was not wondering whats happeneing, seems no car is safe from the leg pulling matter.

Please your humble opinion which car do you think i should go for direct belgium, and what and what should i look out for?

@kingreign @RyanAutomotive
@Richhard anf @everyone, thanks.

Babatundehy:
Yeah, Toyota cars are failing, i just don't think many people talk about it, a friend's 07 Rav 4 transmission had to be worked on, i learned this at church today, the vehicle was purchased foreign used early 2023. I use 09 Sonata and the only thing I've fixed in three years is a fuse, this is not to say Hyundai is better than Toyota, but to say no brand is immune to wear or abuse, the past user of my vehicle (oyinbo) could have driven it less and maintained it better.
The point still remains, the older the car, the higher the chances of major components failing within a short time after purchase here as Tokunbo, from bad maintenance, to all sorts of abuse and or even unhealthy mods (relatively new trend), and regular wear, it is why i will pick a 2023 innoson vehicle that costs 18m over a 2018 Toyota/Honda or Benz at the same price.
I don't care so much about the brand, if I'm buying new and there's no major issues for recall or known issues from user reviews, if the car is new, then how long It serves me is mostly/totally up to my maintenance game.
A 2024 innoson/Nord/ or any of these brands that can be brought brand new here in Naija ( relatively cheaper than the likes of Toyota/Honda/Nissan/Benz of the same year) are good buys compared to older products of these big names.
If you get brand new money of innoson/Nord go buy am jeje get peace of mind for a few years.
The older the vehicle, the more the troubles to expect, quite simple, no brand, build or model of any vehicle is an exemption to this.
My next car is going to be a brand new car, I don't care what the brand is, just that it'll be brand new, near zero mileage with that new smell of factory leather and dashboard material, i need to talk about "breaking" in lol.

Boss you lucky o, changed just a fuse in 3 years.

Please i want I want to upgrade from a corolla 2010 to a Honda 2015 or 2016, but the leg pull matter convo all over discouraged me, so thought of going for a camry 2013 to avoid leg pull.

But three days ago i saw a lexus Es350 leg pull like honda, and just today saw a corolla 07 leg pull like honda, i was now wondering whats happeneing, seems no car is safe from the leg pulling matter.

Please your humble opinion which car do you think i should go for direct belgium, and what and what should i look out for?

sooperrescue:
Leg pull is not restricted to these models of cars. I have been called one night to rescue a 2018 Range rover autobiography long wheelbase who fell into a pothole in Lekki and it's front leg pulled out. The owners are all the same. They want to manage first for the time being and the end result of being manager is the disgrace that happens to them mostly at night where they are at their wits end. It is not rocket science to detect the noise under the wheels.

Oh Oh, so i guess leg pull is not a one car brand thing. Ok please like o asked earlier, from your own personal view, which brand, type and year of car should i go for please?

sooperrescue:
Any car is good. The Toyota overhype is the problem. Follow the instructions of the manufacturer.

Any car is no car bro, just wanted you to give me your own honest personal opinion.

I want to upgrade from a corolla 2010 to a Honda 2015 or 2016, but the leg pull matter convo all over discouraged me, so thought of going for a camry 2013 to avoid leg pull.

But three days ago i saw a lexus Es350 leg pull like honda, and just today saw a corolla 07 leg pull like honda, i was not wondering whats happeneing, seems no car is safe from the leg pulling matter.

ariesbull:
people buy trashy things unknowingly

Bro i still dey wait o for reply, which car is ok to go for?

ariesbull:
Toyota and Honda na gear box wahala champions

I don't know why people still buy those cars

which car be the best to buy na, una dey confuse person haba, i wan change car

I have never insulted anyone here neither did i use derogatory remarks for anyone, so i wont take such from anybody simply because i pointed out the marketing was getting more than the advice i sought.

No one is feeding anyone here, and if some people don't answer questions, definitely someone else will respond.

To the few people that answered my questions, thank you very much, but for others trying to play mini god, omo i ready o and always strapped, but not on NL here, please simply inbox me so i can drop my details so we meet physically and do this, and not hiding behind the keypad on NL and type shii and bs to anyone because you feel its a faceless forum. I am done.

ask4bk:
That jbond that brought negative energy in here just made me get banned.
I had to say my mind and the platform banned me. It's good he didn't get to see it though.

We don't need such negative energy here

I have replied this your message twice but it keeps getting deleted. Dude from your profile you reside in Abuja, please lets meet one on one so you can tell me what you typed that made you got banned, then we see how it goes from there.

And this will be the last message i will reply so this thread can thrive for its purpose.

Elizkid:
Is that supposed to be a threat?

Well, you could take a cue from your own advice/warning, however you intended it to come across.

Respect yourself, Sir. Buy whatever rocks your world and leave all this childish argument abi na rant, dare I say.

People were only trying to help you so that you get the best bang for your buck. Apparently, you know better than everyone else.

And while I respect your face-to-face solar deals preference, which no one is trying to deter you from by the way if you could look beyond you nose, it's best you wrap it all up like I said earlier and let's all leave all this behind.

You come off as a hostile person, and I don't wanna be part of your unprovoked madness.

Guess you have the unprovoked madness here, and guy to be sincere, i dont do threats neither do i do keyboard fights and rants, since you feel you are good to go, lets meet physically and allow the thread thrive for what it was meant for, if you are game let me know, no need for epistles.

HeavenlyBang:
Oga, buy your battery from whoever you want to buy from. Nobody here owes you anything and if anyone gave you recommendations, it's because they're trying to help you. Nothing more, nothing less.

All this many yapping is unnecessary.

Oga i go buy my battery and inverter, no be you wan give me the money in the first place, all this red eye simply because i pointed out the marketing was too much, abi i dey fear you? Or when my main questions were answered was i not showing appreciation? Oga if you no answer questions other people go answer, so you can quit the yapping too, you must not reply, mtcheew..

AndroBlaze:
I believe I was the first person to take my time and give you a proper educative response to a question you asked and this was what I got back in return



While you might have not meant to be rude, your response indicated to me that you either don't appreciate or are just not willing to gain from the reservoir of experience/knowledge people have on here- which is not the end of the world.

I have not really followed your posts since then but I guess people have also noticed a bit of what I did and that's why they are just telling you what to do instead of explaining why they are advising you to do so.

Simply put, we've had some people who sold cells and made batteries in Abuja but they've been found wanting (at least the ones I remember). If people are recommending mrreed that's in Kaduna (or is it kano) and Valto that is in Bayelsa, its because we KNOW their goods work and we KNOW you will get support even if you aren't in the same state as most of us don't even reside in Kaduna or Bayelsa.

People have lost good money on here, because they believed in shops or renegade sellers who came here and promised heaven and earth....that did not stop those affected from being their brother's keeper and revealing their experiences while ensuring they enrich everyone here with their knowledge gained the hard way, with blood and tears.

If you need to physically inspect your purchase from a local shop it is fine, but that will not stop you from being cheated or someone telling you that they will not honour warranty, especially when they can prove u might have made an honest misstep in the setup (which happens as everyone is learning)....and even established businesses like Fouani do this ( yes a whole LG).

Learn to believe in people and more importantly learn to believe in yourself that you are a good judge of character.... even if you get burnt, we only live once and living in fear and unfounded distrust isn't the way to spend one's life.

I wish you the best whatever your decisions are.

Thanks

Collione:
I have been reading your responses and it doesn't tally at all. What I see so far are people who genuinely wish to help you. They have shared their advice and experience but instead of appreciating this you just came out guns blazing. Shitting on their efforts with your negative aura. They had the option to stay quiet but regardless they were more than happy to help. I'm able to get the right set-up thanks to this group. If you knew that this isn't your first rodeo then I believe you are already well equipped. Don't forget, like you we are all human and we should act accordingly ,professionally and with empathy.

Thank you

dollarnaira:
This forum is not another version of chatGPT. If you feel offended use the exit botton or press red. Some of you talk as if we get paid answering questions here.

Its button and not botton, and if you are referring to me which obviously you are, dude no be your family get nairaland, you can also use the exit button out too, good riddance

Elizkid:
You might wanna wrap it all up, mate.

You're doing too much

Dude please respect yourself

Ayomipoe:
Sorry about your percived experience.
This is primarily a diy forum and it is instinctual for members to point you towards their best deals.

However, because of your restriction of buying from someone local, your best bet is to look for someone on Google. You can then share the options you get / prices. Most likely you will be buying a branded system.
1.8m is a lot of money. Cworth systems are not bad. Avoid Felicity if you can. 600w is not bad on a 12v system. Buy the largest battery you can get. The Haisic 12v plus inverter is about 650k 4kwh. It's backup time for your load will be about 5 hours. Their 24v all in one is about 1.25-1.3m, you should get your 10 hours from this and it allows you to expand your load. Good luck.

Bro if the title of the thread had diy tagged to it, i wont have bothered opening it or joining the thread because things like this for me, i dont diy, i leave it for the professionals. I saw solar energy on the thread title, though i dont know what the FTA means, thats why i decided to seek advice simply because i wanted to upgrade from tubular i have been using for a while now to lithium and just needed to know what and what i will be needing, i have never bought anything here on nairaland or any other online platform and never intended to either.
Anyway i will exit the thread and let them be before curse and insult go enter the matter.

Thanks for your input bro.

RickyM:
This is a DIY forum where people share knowledge and stuff, they telling you about a better deal doesn’t mean they are marketing but rather a better value for your money and no one is forcing it on you because at the end of the day it’s your choice to make either to patronize SMe or buy brands.

When an issue is stressed upon it obviously becomes like a must. If it is my choice to make like you mentioned, i am sure the buy from mr this nd that on almost every of my post wont have been this much to the extent when i ask a question, the reply will be mr this and that can make this for you, buy from mr this and that haba.

Whenever i ask a question, some people here were helpful, while most were more bent on buy from mr this and that and were not even bothered about what i asked even when i took my time to explain why i dont buy things online, then the matter turn to hostility from their subsequent replies, anyway na my fault.

Compliant:
If you like buy it next door, when issue arise it is then you will understand that closeness sometimes does not guarantee quick response when it comes to solar system.

Majority of all these stores just sell inverter batteries, when problem arising you will begin to hear stories why you are at fault and why it will take days to fix

Bro, mind you, this is not my first solar rodeo, i have been on tubular and 1.5kva inverter for some years now, and the guys that intstalled it for me anytime i see anything i dont understand, within hours they are at my place and the issue is resolved.

I only came here to seek advice simply because i am going the lithium way, so easy with the next door or next state talk, anyway let me even leave the platform for you all because from all replies it has been reeking of hostility the moment i mentioned i am not buying from here, have a lovely day.

Compliant:
I am also in Abuja, I bought from valto and he delivered within 48hours

Mine is 8.5

Its obvious no one answers genuine questions again here but its rather about marketing for the diy sellers here, i gave my own personal reasons why i want to buy these equipments within the state i reside, you still dey tell me he delivered within 48 hours. If i wanted to buy from any of them i would have contacted them already, even the question i asked no one replied, instead na marketing una dey do.

Anyway thanks for your input.

omotoda:
Ok ooo but I know he won't run with your money.Valto is in Delta and a lot of people here have bought from him including myself.Mrreed is in Kaduna,I haven't bought from him but I can guarantee he will not run away with your money.These are people who have built their name on this platform overtime.

Bro like seriously? After i took my time to explain my valid reasons you went ahead and kept hammering on running away with money, like did i ever mention anyone will run away with anybody's money? My points were i am not a fan of buying stuffs online, and also want something that whoever i am buying from can easily come around incase of anything, abi na who dey kaduna and delta wan come abuja if anything happen?

Anyway thank you for your input.

omotoda:
All the 5kw 24v you will see will never be cheaper than Mrreed.If you can ,close eye and go for it since it's higher capacity,smart BMS and grade A cell.Chargkng won't be a problem because you will hardly deplete all capacity and even at 50amps charging current ,battery will be full in less than 6 hours

Bro, i am not in lagos, i reside in Abuja, and i am not a fan of buying things from another state to be sent down to Abuja, not my thing, and i am not doing the DIY ish either.

If he was here in Abuja i wont mind buying from him, i always physically go to the warehouse or shop where i want to buy to see what i am buying, and also so that incase of any issue whoever sold to me can easily come around, unlike when it is sent from another state, so thats my point bro, thanks

eghos12:
528w load on 5kwh battery will give you 8.5-9,5 hours estimate

Thanks