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kakameks:
He had the chance to stick by his word and not step foot in SA because of the Xenophobic attacks.
Now instead of him rejecting them, He has been the one rejected.

Serves Burna Boy right for going back on his word.

that's nature of Yoruba man! Am sorry to say that when yoruba make a threat just leave them alone they are just chest beater nothing they can do just mouth. ! Reject them before you are rejected!

blueAgent:
Clown.
It's obvious you have problem with compression.

Ezekiel 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

That Bible verse above says that God will turn Satan to Ashes upon the Earth in the sight of all.

If you had sense you would have known by now that the word forever does not always mean something without end.

lol well I will not insult you, you have truly shown that you have nothing in your brain ! when a fool speaks or write try to hide under the pen of the wise , the hand writing and the sentence will surely show he has nothing to offer than confusion even confusing himself too.

blueAgent:
Your argument is always without direction or meaning.

Can't you post a least one Bible verse to back this your comedy.

you are the one that's confusing yourself ! I have given you a bible verse that terminated all your misquotes. go back and read rev. 20vs 10. tell me why the bible says " day and night " with the word "for ever and ever".you are confusing yourself and some people who have very poor understanding of the word. now let me quoted Ezekiel 28vs19 says: All the nations who knew you are appalled at you; you have come to a horrible end and will be no more! I know your confusion is the word " no more" now rev. 20vs10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone , where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented DAY and NIGHT for EVER and EVER ! lake of fire is a confinement for every condemned spirit now if the bible says they will be in that fire for ever, that means their end have come because they will not able to be out of fire again, that lake of fire is an eternal prison that can't be quench according to Bible meaning.

blueAgent:
The truth is that the word forever used in that verse does not mean something without end, as we can see from Ezekiel 28 that the Devil will be destroyed.

even the word destroyed from the bible don't really mean to end too.

MuttleyLaff:
If you didnt know that the appearance of Moses and Elijah to Jesus, that Peter, James and John saw was a vision, then you're not worth to be taken serious.

Shame on you because you hadnt be careful to show yourself approved unto God. You're a workman that need to be ashamed, for wrongly dividing the word of truth about the nature of the appearance visitation of Elijah and Moses. You mishandled the truth and inaccurately told the narrative. You have and show no remorse. You dont regret trying to mislead and misinform the body of Christ and behaving like a total ignoranus.

I didnt write Matthew 17:9 or did I?. Right there in Matthew 17:9, is it that it is a vision, but here you are, blindly still arguing, even after showing and/or giving you the Bible evidence, smh.

Just be careful, because the next crab, you might want to try to pull down, could just be the one who will, square up to you, rip your claw off and beat the living daylights out of you with it, lol. I presume you're wise, so a word to the wise is enough

that even not the bone of contention here because I know you on the thread as person that talk out of the thread causing digression on the thread! go and create thread then invite me I will be happy to welcome the invitation base on bible knowledge it seems you are lagging behind you need it!

blueAgent:
.Are that Naive?

How does that explain or mean that the spirit taken by God are still existing?

yes because God never die we can't exist without God now I quoted revelation 20:10 says And the devil that deceived them was casted into the lake of fire and brimstone , where the beast and the false prophet are and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. "for ever and ever " mean what there ? if they are not immortal why will they use for ever and ever for them in the fire.

MuttleyLaff:
Are you now going to tell us that the Bible in Matthew 17:9 is lying because as far as you are concerned what Peter, James and John saw about Elijah and Moses was not a vision, lol.

I asked you to please explain what updating means, but you dodged the question, lol. What's scarying you from admiting that, updating, means talking, talking as in, giving someone or somebody the latest information about something, lol. That's precisely what Moses, symbolising the Law and Elijah, symbolising the prophets was doing with Jesus, lol.

Run, go hide your face in shame. You have been found out, talking about things, you havent a clue about. How can you, in the face of evidence, say it wasnt a vision, lol. You make me laugh, doing gra-gra upandan the thread, huffing and puffing, behaving like a terror. Smh.

I had your type in my secondary school days , lol they would wrote on a sheet of paper even requested for more sheets but funny you would later discovered they were the nincompoops in the class! you can write all the epistle but ask yourself are you making sense from what you are interpreting from the bible? I laugh again.

MuttleyLaff:
jcross19, please explain what updating means, from the above quote, or the excerpt from reproduced below :
"In that vision, the inner caucus trio disciples witnessed, Elijah representing the prophets and Moses representing the Law, updating Jesus"

"As they were coming down the mountain, Jesus instructed them,
“Do not tell anyone about this vision until the Son of Man has been raised from the dead."
- Matthew 17:9

Smh, jcross19, it is obvious you dont know who you're dealing with concerning this matter, you're trying to drag here. Look at you making a complete ignoranus of yourself.

you are nothing because I have dealt with you before and you ran away ! like what I have said Elijah and moses did not represent anything ! and they were spirits, I laugh in your ignorance that's making you look "naked" Let me correct you , them may see it as a vision but to Christ is never vision! by the way what do you know about things of the spirit! ordinary bible quotations you could not explained it , am wasting my time with a wit.

MuttleyLaff:
I wouldn't have written what I wrote, if I didn't know nothing. I wouldn't have written what I wrote, if I did know anything about what I talked about. I stand by everything I wrote earlier, even if it means that I stand alone, and that I repeat is, what John, Peter and James, in Matthew 17:3 saw, of Elijah and Moses, was a vision, its nothing more, nothing less than that and the vision happened, to serve as a symbolism of handing over. In that vision, the inner caucus trio disciples witnessed, Elijah representing the prophets and Moses representing the Law, updating Jesus and then after giving over control and responsibility to Jesus, to forge ahead, go make a reality of and finish the redemptive work in a burst of power and might. Praise God. Alleluia

jcross19, your problem is that, you're suffering from the "crab, pull other crab down" mentality. I know your types and know how your types behaves, this is why I am not bothered taking you to task on your "... now in some translation it was written as CONSOLE" comment that you pulled out of the rear end. Smh.

Why cant you just be happy, hmm? Why do you have to be ugly, bitter and antagonistic, erhn? Pulling someone down doesnt help anyone reach the top and sustain the height, so my dear nwanne jcross19, please stop the crab in a bucket mentality. Stop the díck comparison. Stop the how dare you attitude, stop the how can your díck be bigger and better than my díck mentality. Thank you.

you have exposed yourself that you need to be noticed ! you are the first that replied unholy , ugly and inappropriate to me and I replied in that manner back to you but it seems it hurt you badly , but truly I don't mean in that way just face the bible don't interpret what that does not follow up with doctrine of bible it's blasphemy!.

MuttleyLaff:
I wouldn't have written what I wrote, if I didn't know nothing. I wouldn't have written what I wrote, if I did know anything about what I talked about. I stand by everything I wrote earlier, even if it means that I stand alone, and that I repeat is, what John, Peter and James, in Matthew 17:3 saw, of Elijah and Moses, was a vision, its nothing more, nothing less than that and the vision happened, to serve as a symbolism of handing over. In that vision, the inner caucus trio disciples witnessed, Elijah representing the prophets and Moses representing the Law, updating Jesus and then after giving over control and responsibility to Jesus, to forge ahead, go make a reality of and finish the redemptive work in a burst of power and might. Praise God. Alleluia

jcross19, your problem is that, you're suffering from the "crab, pull other crab down" mentality. I know your types and know how your types behaves, this is why I am not bothered taking you to task on your "... now in some translation it was written as CONSOLE" that you pulled out of the rear end. Smh.

Why cant you just be happy, hmm? Why do you have to be ugly, bitter and antagonistic, erhn? Pulling someone down doesnt help anyone reach the top and sustain the height, so my dear nwanne jcross19, please stop the crab in a bucket mentality. Stop the díck comparison. Stop the how dare you attitude, stop the how can your díck be bigger and better than my díck mentality. Thank you.

Elijah did not represent anything sir! both of them came to pass a message to Christ sir!!! mind you there is no where it's written that Jesus was seen a vision their visit is never a vision sir!. if it was a vision bible will state it as a vision.

blueAgent:
If Man's spirit can not die than Man has Immortality.

but that is not possible because only God has Immortality.and man is called mortal Bible meaning he can die.

Job 4:17
Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be
more pure than his maker?

The Devil can die because he is a created being who has a beginning and also an end.

His death was pronounced by God through prophet Ezekiel.



Ezekiel 28:11 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

Am still wondering after I read this verse rev.20vs10 says And the devil that deceived them was cast into lake of fire and brimstone , where the beast and the false prophets are, and shall be tormented DAY and NIGHT FOREVER and EVER meaning eternity can a mortal soul suffer for ever and ever if not immortal?

Magicians:
I speak n write beta English than your father, we can pit that to the test if you like.

heyah charity begins at home! that's how you bully your father at home that makes you not to have regard to someone else father! I pity your dad , the man don suffer.

MuttleyLaff:
Did you not read in your Bible that it was a vision of Elijah and Moses that James, John and Peter saw ni? Console kor, computer sega games console ni. Even after I had earlier explained the significance and symbolism of the meeting of Elijah and Moses with Jesus, you're still talking of console, smh. Abeggy comot for road jor, allow beta pipul pass.

you are just misinterpreting bible thinking you are wise but a salt without savour ! may God show you mercy! now in Luke 9vs 29: And as He prayed,the fashion of his countenance was altered ,and His raiment was white and glistering. 30 :And behold, there talked with Him tow men, which were moses and Elias or Elijah . 31: who appeared in glory , and spake of His decease which He should accomplish in Jerusalem! Now in some translation it was written as CONSOLE. those men came with message from the source to Him ! the significant of their coming is written there clearly no need to interpret nonsense !. very funny!!!!.

MuttleyLaff:
Did you not read in your Bible that it was a vision of Elijah and Moses that James, John and Peter saw ni? Console kor, computer sega games console ni. Even after I had earlier explained the significance and symbolism of the meeting of Elijah and Moses with Jesus, you're still talking of console, smh. Abeggy comot for road jor, allow beta pipul pass.

you are tyro to that verses your quoted and you know nothing about it and what interpreted is never the meaning of that transfiguration!.

Magicians:
We no de south for SW but despicable pigs will just not let you be in peace with their daily insult.

you are disgrace to your English teacher!

MuttleyLaff:
"Guard your heart above all else,
for it determines the course of your life
(i.e. for everything you do flows from the heart)"
- Proverbs 4:23

"The good man brings good things out of the good treasure of his heart,
and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil treasure of his heart.
For out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks"
- Luke 6:45

blueAgent, I am 110% sure you'll agree and accept that, it is the Soul that is saved even Ezekiel 18:20 emphatically states that: "The soul that sinneth, it shall die.", it doesnt say its the Body or the Spirit. Now, the heart is used by the Soul but the heart definitely is not the Spirit

Let me slip this bit in, first, as a preamble. Proverbs 4:23 and Luke 6:45 above, informs us that, it's out of the abundance of the heart first, then processed in the brain or mind, before the mouth speaks. All evil intents comes forth out of the heart, as in, the heart housed in the human Body. Mark 7:21-22, paints a picture of the heart with the following: "For from within the hearts of men come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, wickedness, deceit, debauchery, envy, slander, arrogance, and foolishness" and Jeremiah 17:9 doesnt paint the heart in good light either, as it says: "The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is?"

Incidentally, the verse, Psalms 51:10, informatively tells us, that the heart is linked with the mind, which is part of the Soul. The same Soul or psyche uses the heart as an outlet, to pass out or pass in things, from the Body and/or Spirit via the heart in the Soul. I'll soon below explain how it does this and/or how this works

What is man?
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."
- Genesis 2:7

"For the Spirit of God has made me,
and the breath of the Almighty gives me life."
- Job 33:4

Man is a spirit being, residing or housed in a Body and possessing a Soul (i.e. a psyche). In fact, Man is made up of Body, Soul and Spirit. As a matter of fact, the Soul or psyche, has the Body and Spirit on each opposite sides of it. In a nutshell, Man essentially, is a spirit being with a Soul, housed, encapsulated, and/or wrapped up, in a human being body suit.

Genesis 2:7 and Job 33:4 above, informs us, its "ruach" the Spirit from God and "neshamah" that keeps the human body animated.

Now blueAgent, please dont try to mix up "ruach" and "neshamah" with ordinary and/or commonplace spirits, as in meaning, dont try to mix up the Spirit of God and the breath or wind of God, with extraterrestrial beings, which is what evil and good spirits are.

Fyi, "ruach", in Hebrew, with its corresponding Greek word "pneuma" essentially and in an almost oversimplified way means force. It is breath, wind, spirit of God, all rolled in as one thing. It in a sense, is the invisible force or power of God, hence why being perceived as a Spirit, so yes, "ruach" is the Spirit of God. In fact you wont wrong in saying that "ruach" or "Ha Ruach Ha Kodesh" is the Holy Spirit, as in, the Spirit of God.

You can see both "ruach" and "neshamah" being interplayed in the creation of man from Genesis 2:7 reproduced above, and as a witness plus as a supporting verse, Job 33:4 you see reproduced above, confirms, by testifying, that, its "ruach" that made man and it is "neshamah" that gives man life

"Neshamah", incidentally, is actually derived from another Hebrew word called "nasham" that means to pant and/or blow away with air, now, when the spirit, as in, meaning, "neshamah", the breath, returns back to God, the Body slumps and the Soul goes into comatose. This looks and feels, similar to a TV animated cartoon changed and turned into a cartoon strip character, on a comic book or magazine paper. TV animated cartoon characters moves, but cartoon strip character, on a comic book or magazine paper dont move like animated cartoon characters watched on TV screens. For the life of the body is in the blood and the life of the soul is in the spirit. When the spirit leaves the body, it returns back to God, leaving the body inanimate, meaning leaves it motionless and lifeless, as in, without life or no more with life. Ecclesiastes 12:7

"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it."
- Ecclesiastes 12:7

Now, moving further on, the Spirit and Soul have different faculties, where the faculties of the spirit, comprises of Fellowship, Conscience, Discernment or Intuition, while the faculties of the Soul are made up of the Mind (i.e. consciousness and sub consciousness) or Intellect, Will or Freewill, and Emotions. The Body is not left out, it has 5 faculties of senses, and these are, sight, as in to see via the eyes, hearing, as in hear via the ears, touch, as in, feel via applicable part of the body, smell, as in, perceive via the nose and last but not the least, taste, as in, sense with the mouth.

The Body is worldly conscious and relates to the environment and its surroundings, the Soul is self conscious and relates to self & other people and the Spirit is God conscious and relates to God. After the death of the Body, the Soul without God, without any affinity with God, cant achieve or have eternal life

Now, remember blueAgent, that your question was: "What do I think is the Soul?" Well, my intro response is, the Soul, biblically speaking, is the most important existence of Man and that is why the battle is and always has been about and over the Soul. All attacks, are ultimately targeted at and for the Soul. Now, getting started proper, the Soul is the first medium key component of Man created by God and Man is tickled and accessed through this same Soul, by way of the Body and Spirit. The Soul, as a matter of fact and in effect, is the mediator between the Body and Spirit. The Soul uses the heart, as the point from where issues are sent out and/or distributed from.

Let me elaborate and explain a bit how everything works, the different faculties in the Soul waits, to pick up signals coming from the relevant and/or applicable faculties in the Body and the Spirit. This crucial bit of information here, is very important to grasp, and it is that, the Soul receives from the Body and deposits into the Spirit. Whatever the Body reads or sees via the eyes, hears via the ears, feels via applicable part of the body, smells via the nose and talks or tastes via the mouth is picked up by the Soul and deposited into the Spirit. The Spirit then, upon receiving these things from the Soul, has to deal with or process what the Soul has deposited into the Spirit's laps.

Fya blueAgent, please note, anywhere in the post you see "Spirit", unless it is stated otherwise, take it, to mean, as in, spirit-man, and not the Holy Spirit or Spirit of God. Thank you

Now, this here, is why regulation is very important. It is why we ought to control and oversee what the Soul is picking up from or what it is picking up with the senses. If you have to by all means, eat the chicken or fish, then its necessary to know when and how to spit out the bones, or if it's straw to eat, then know when and how to spit out the sticks, alternatively, if it's liquor to drink, and you cant hold it down so you don't throw it up, then know how or when to stay away from the liquor. Caveat emptor clause #1 done.

The devil has no power over anyone, except if such person, is in the dark, dabbling in the dark or is ignorant, so I'll advise the curious to distance themselves from dabbling into the dark, to save themselves from misery, but if hellbent on dining with the devil, then make sure you've got a long spoon to dine and eat with. Caveat emptor clause #2 done.

Resuming and back on track, now, if the Soul picks up an interaction, info, instruction, message, communication, issue etcetera from the Body, it cant interpret, then the deposit the Soul received from the Body and put into the Spirit will be unfruitful then (i.e. remember the red emboldened above hmm?) The thing here, is that, the Spirit, by the God design, knows what it expects from the Soul for positive fruition to be possible but the Soul has received from the Body something it doesnt via the Mind or Intellect understand or know about. Wahala don begin to gas be dat ooo. Now, just as in the physical, when the stomach growls, making noises for food, when nourishing is long overdue, so it is spiritually, the Spirit, intercedes for us through wordless and noiseless groans for substances necessary for growth, health and good condition

The Soul, as a conduit, a vent hole determines what the Spirit receives, but if the Soul is transferring the wrong expectations (e.g. like not praying right, not asking right, not the will of God etctera) then the Spirit, does the wordless groans. It does this because the spirit-man knows what should be prayed for, so it becomes restless with wordless groans, when the expectation(s) is not forthcoming or not in sight. The Spirit, as in, the spirit-man, is like saying: Hey Mr Soul, where are the goods I am expecting, please dont feed me with trash, junk and any of all these ungodly razzmatazz stuffs. So since the Spirit, is capable of asking and telling the Soul what it needs, the Soul just has to return back to the Body to honour the request and be asking the Body for correct or "kosher" stuff and not the crap its received

Now, if it is one of those classic cases of the Spirit, is willing BUT the Body is weak, then the Body many times will REFUSE the Soul the request of the Spirit, and here we have a typical case of struggle or power tussle going on in the Soul involving the Body and the Spirit
The Spirit , knows what it needs the Soul giving it from the Body (i.e. the Spirit tells the Soul what to do, expecting the Soul to relay this information request to the Body) but the Body, many times, is not ready or prepared to act in accordance with the wish or command of the Spirit, by giving or offering it to the Soul for the Spirit.

There is a rule, that the Spirit, cannot give to the Body righteous things it didnt receives from the Soul. Hmm, I perceive someone's going to trip at this point, so OK, here is the clarification to ward off any confusion:
The Soul passes on all righteous things it receives from the Body, if the seed is able to bear fruit and is meaningful when the Spirit receives it, the Spirit, will then fertilise the ''seed'' and return it back to the Body, via the Soul, bumper harvest fruitfully. Call it positive and welcome payback, if you like.

So, in effect, the Soul feeds the Spirit, and the Soul receives from the Spirit, to feed the Body. This is the reason, why if your mind (i.e. Soul) doesnt understand something OR anything, it would be unable to interpret, to then, successfully feed the Spirit or the Body.

blueAgent, do you ever recoil back, when watching something gruesome happening in real life or maybe just on a TV screen slash internet, as in, like in a horror film or something? If you do, well that's your spirit, as in your spirit-man, not wanting to be needlessly grieved. Sometimes, you have to protect the gateway to your spirit-man because you might not necessarily want to relive or remember that moment, so you block any avenue, contact or link to that thing happening or going on at that moment of time. What is happening here, is you preventing your spirit-man from being fed with junk. You are protecting your heart and shielding it from receiving and/or taking in from junk. You are blocking the faculties from transferring junk to the Soul via the heart.

"Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health,
even as thy soul prospereth"
- 3 John 1:2

As seen in 3 John 1:2 above, the Soul (i.e. the Mind (i.e. conscious and sub conscious) or Intellect, Will or Freewill, and Emotions) tops it all. Of course, the ability of the Soul to prosper or be held back to any degree, is dependent on the Spirit, getting the right detail, at which to relay back to the Body via the Soul at a latter date, future or time, as and when needed.

This is another God design, quest for quality GIGO and QIQO system set-up. GIGO is an ancroymn for "Garbage in, Garbage out" and QIQO is an ancroymn for "Quality in, Quality out" If the Soul sends in shiit to the Spirit, the Soul gets shiit back from the Spirit. It just implies that bad input by the Soul will result in bad output in return, sent back from the Spirit to the Soul. Ultimately too, the Body, at the receiving end of it all, gets the flawed and nonsense input data from the Soul, this comes by nonsense output garbage obtained from the Spirit that originally and in first place was sent in from the Soul coming from one or more of the Body's faculties (e.g. eyes, ears, touch, mouth, smell)

"For You will not abandon my soul to Sheol; Nor will You allow Your Holy One to undergo decay."
- Psalm 16:10

blueAgent, you're too heavy to want to fall for my hand now, please dont. Biko, jor abeg. The soul of Jesus, not being left in Sheol, aka hell/hades, is King David's Psalm 16:10 prophecy being fulfilled. Everything written about Jesus, in the Law of Moses, the Prophets, and the Psalms were each and every one fulfilled, and so we have it that the soul of Jesus was not abandoned in Sheol nor His body decayed. Praise God. Alleluia.

Now, blueAgent, when our Lord Jesus Christ resurrected, He resurrected with a glorified body. Need I go on, need I say more, if not, then I rest my case then.

After the death of the Body, the Soul without God, without any affinity with God, cant achieve or have eternal life

I guess blueAgent that you'll agree that the devil and demons are souless, meaning they have no soul. Now, the reason why the devil and the demons are inredeemable is because of the fact that they have no souls. The devil and the demons, are not able to be saved, be improved, or be corrected because of the mere fact that they lack a soul. The devil and the demons, to start with, unlike human beings, havent got diddly squat souls to make better, to make more desirable, satisfactory and/or effective.

you are quoting out of point view of bible sir! Satan started from the beginning and Jesus said he has been judged meaning condemned now there is different between evil spirit, Satan,demons and dark angels! pls. spirits don't die is either you take it or leave it ! every spirit is eternal either in bondage, in the lake of fire that burn forever ask yourself why would the fire forever if the prisoners can die?

MuttleyLaff:
Go and sit down jor. Mr Coach, fyi, Elijah was teleported, as in, got translated elsewhere, then like every other human being died.

The next fyi for you Mr Coach, is that, what John, Peter and James, in Matthew 17:3 saw, of Elijah and Moses, was a vision, its nothing more, nothing less than that and the vision happened, to serve as a symbolism of handing over. In that vision, the inner caucus trio disciples witnessed, Elijah representing the prophets and Moses representing the Law, updating Jesus and then after giving over control and responsibility to Jesus, to forge ahead, go make a reality of and finish the redemptive work in a burst of power and might.

see this one oooooh huh! Elijah was teleported to somewhere else and died there by your own bible right the one you wrote in aba! bros! that's not what bible says about Elijah sir! and that of moses and Elijah seen by the three disciples , bible says they came to console Christ! and still remain one about that the rich man and the Lazarus! if there is no eternity Jesus will not let you know what happened to that rich man and Lazarus after death! read your bible let holy interpret it for you!

Isolsceptre:
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is that the salvation message Jesus send you huh oga woli? God !!! alter have suffered.

Yeye Bello is by far the worst governor in Nigeria.



On a serious note,Seun kuti should face his business of fucking all the toto his father left behind.





pukes

,can you see now who will now defend the poor? na wah oooh who will speak up for the suffer head poor masses.

Janosky:
* Food for your thoughts***

*Response to your Questions
(*Q1 and Q3)Pls. can you share with us from your Bible the Lazarus narrative of his blissful heavenly experience after his resurrection?

Q2) John3:13, is Jesus Christ a liar?

What is the name of the rich man?
** What's the reason why your Bible headlines it as "Parable of the rich man and Lazarus"? Pls think !!!!

I still laugh well is not your fault because you read Bible like a book and interpret it as it suits you! lol can you see what we are saying now in that john 3:13 then that mean Elijah was hang in the sky abi where did Elijah goes? ahaahaha! can you remember Jesus transfiguration on mountain with Elijah and moses where did they come from?.I laugh again! Jesus will not make use what that does not exist to set as example brother! Jesus knew there is life after death and which is immortality , that's for spirit. now let me coach that immortality that we lost in the garden God want man kind to experience it on earth but we have lost it.

Janosky:
Jcross, please go and find out the Hebrew word lexicon for 'Spirit' in Psalm 104:29 & Eccl12:7.
If you don't do it, you're lost.

am asking you what's the meaning of the parable of the rich man and Lazarus why did Jesus talk about their existence even after their death on earth ? Are you telling me that Jesus have lost His senses abi Jesus did know what he was saying when he said " and Lazarus was at the bosom of Abraham " which Lazarus is he talking about? Because Lazarus have died and returned to dust so which one is sitting at the bosom of Abraham?

GistMore11:
The EFCC, Lagos Zonal Office, has uncovered that Hope Olusegun Aroke a convicted internet fraudster currently serving a 24 years jail term is still in active communication with other high valued targets that are currently being investigated by the Commission for various offences relating to computer fraud and money laundering. .
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Investigation revealed that he masterminded the commission of internet scam worth over $100, 000, OOO (One Million Dollars) whilst serving his jail term.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2677095698979570&id=509762239046271

efcc can't convict any fraudster more than 2years they will proclaimed 100years in the court but serve the jail term in just 1year and 7 months meaning they know how they are calculating it.

blueAgent:
Crap.

Give me Bible verses and evidence not lay talk.




Psalm 104:29

Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled; thou takest away
their spirit, they cease to exist and return to their dust.

Job 34:14
If he set his heart upon man, if he gather
unto himself his spirit and his breath;

Job 4:18 Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly: 4:19 How much less in them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation is in the dust, which are crushed before the moth? 4:20 They are destroyed from morning to evening: they perish for ever without any regarding it. 4:21 Doth not their excellency which is in them go away? they die, even without wisdom.

even the psalm you quoted said He takes away their spirit mean their spirits are still existing but with God while their flesh returned to the dust! You are just confused sir

blueAgent:
Please show in this verse were man became a spirit ?


Genesis 2:7
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust
of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils
the breath of life; and man became a living
soul."

the flesh is what bible refer as a man noe ask your self what's the significant of the parable of the rich and Lazarus why did they appear after death! What does the story tell you after death.

blueAgent:
Where in this Bible verses is there a hint that man is a spirit?

Genesis 3:19,
"In the sweat of face shalt thou eat bread,
till thou return unto the ground; for out of it
wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto
dust shalt thou return."

Psalms 103:13-14, KJV
"Like as a father pitieth his children, so the
LORD pitieth them that fear him. For he
knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we
are dust."

Psalm 104:29, KJV
"Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou
takest away their breath, they die, and return
to their dust."

Job 21:22-26, KJV
"Shall any teach God knowledge? seeing he
judgeth those that are high. One dieth in his
full strength, being wholly at ease and quiet.
His breasts are full of milk, and his bones are
moistened with marrow. And another dieth in
the bitterness of his soul, and never eateth
with pleasure. They shall lie down alike in the
dust, and the worms shall cover them."


Job 34:14-15, KJV
"If he set his heart upon man, if he gather unto
himself his spirit and his breath; All flesh shall
perish together, and man shall turn again unto
dust."

what's the different between son of man and son of God? Man in the bible simple mean mankind and mankind just canal of flesh that's all okay;Luke 24:39:look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a GHOST does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.",Mathew 14vs26:when the disciples saw him walking on the lake, they were terrified. "It's a GHOST," they said, and cried out in fear., now have reading the story of the rich and Lazarus , where was Lazarus after death and the rich? What does the story tells you about life after death, the response of Abraham to the rich man what does that mean to you? If spirit is not immortal there is no need for Christ to come

blueAgent:
Is Sodom and Gomorrah still burning?

is just a figurative speech , meaning total annihilation!

eTECTIV:
Na confusion dey worry am.. Wen election year reach again he'll remember his calling to serve d ppl... Politics and Church business is d new oyel money

join them and eat the oyel money!

shaw2:
The crime rate at Kogi state will vehemently increase.
Who will retrieve those guns given to these touts back?
I pity travelers that will pass through Kogi Axis.
Particularly Okene. The next four years will be blood bath for innocent citizens

they want to have the power at all cost now they have unleash the mayhem.

Shibaraba:
BBQ grills. Meat Don show

And some nuisances, miscreants, fools, sadist and buffoons who have sold their souls and consciences for a piece of 30 silver to betray their very own,you have disappointed your creator and generation for being part of mischief of this country, am talking to those that supported this evil regime ! the wroth of God won't depart from your home.

ddippset:
Wike should not go bragging about that Rivers state is a Christian state.
With the way Christians love today, Christianity is nothing to be proud of, we should be ashamed of ourselves.
Leave the Muslims out of this, don't use them for cover up.
There are many Muslims who are better than Wike and yourself.

Stop measuring diccks and beating your chest upandan "I am a Christian, I am a Christian"
Rivers is a Christian state and he's accumulating billions upandan and the so called Christians are living in poverty.

Let Wike be fooling people like you.

can you see your miserable life Saudi is syphoning billions of dollars every year from OIC and leave the same Muslims countries in jeopardy, disastrous and toppled situation they can't help if not the help of the western countries like Yemen, syria , Sudan, Somalia and Libya could have been forgotten . now Islamic that encouraged the impoverishment on the masses , I have data that I can show you. be ashamed of your religion of piss ! terrorism, slavery and gaysm is a thing of norm.

blueAgent:
It's obvious you did not understand what is been said.

Isaiah prophecised that Edom will be burnt with fire and the smoke will ascend forever.

If we take the ascend forever literally, that will make God a liar because we know that Edom is no longer burning neither is their smoke still ascending.

This verse parallels Rev 14:11 and like Isaiah 34:10 this verse should also not been taken literally because God also said that the fire of Hell will be put out after it destroyed all the wicked.

Isaiah 47:14

Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them;
they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the
flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit
before it.

Revelation 14:11, talks about eternity punishment, if the spirit is not immortal why are they burning in the fire till eternity!

blueAgent:
Show me were it is written that Satan and spirits cannot die?

If Satan can live forever than he is equal with God which is impossible, because the Bible says that only, I repeat only God has Immortality.


1 Timothy 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

spirit don't die , man in the bible mean flesh , flesh have due time on earth! now listen we are spirits but clothed with flesh. spirit don't die that's why God prepared everlasting fire. now that quotation is talking about spirit compared to mankind! tell me where devil will die!