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SARSCoV2:
You are not conversant with facts.

You are a Trump zombie.

Now pull out Trump statement about withdrawal of troops when he was president.

Let's read together.

I don't have time to answer to answer silly questions.

All you need is literally being spoken on various news outlets.

Stay off BBN and watch the news.

Even your beloved CNN is blaming Biden and saying his team shouldn't shift blame.

htdot:
With the way this stuff is playing out look finishing. From twitter not restricting their PR On twitter and on how the western press are trying to sell them as good to the masses, is very fishing.. The dems and their media always trying so hard to destroy the world by installing terrorist to oversee the affair of a country. From how they remove gadaffi to cause unrest in syria and how they remove GEJ to installing buhari to this afganistan issue.

You sabi brother.

MrWraith:
So the Biden administration that's just over one year old is at fault for the decades of poor funding. Nice logic bro.

Get your thinking faculty in order..and learn to think rationally.

Unfortunately there are many people with your kind of logic in leadership in the country called Nigeria.

Trump administration knew all these and therefore had a strategy of leaving behind over 2k troops which he refused to pull out. He also made it clear on the use of retaliatory force in case of the Taliban breaking the agreement. He said he had to pull out civilians first before the troops which Joe didn't do.

If someone gives a driver a car that another driver had previously used on a journey and they tell the new driver,hey, there isn't much fuel to make the trip you need to buy more. But he insists anyway to make the trip and the little fuel finishes along the way, who would you blame, the new driver or the previous driver?

Some of you need critical thinking skills.

SARSCoV2:
Biden should formulate a new strategy that the Pentagon could not formulate in 20 years, while sacrificing American life's and billions in tax payers money.


Please raise another point.

Stop talking rubbish abeg....why was Trump's strategy different?

Why did Trump initially pull thousands of troops but left over 2000 troops because he said it was too early to pull out everyone?

Why is it Trump promised retaliatory force to the Taliban in case of a breach of a deal but Biden says he doesn't care?

Why did Trump say he has to airlift American citizens first and its allies before removing all the Troops?

Why did Biden do the opposite of the Above? Removing all troops and leaving over 11k Americans stranded in Afghanistan. Along with weapons and biometric info device that shows the Taliban who the U.S allies are?

What kind of stupid excuse that doesn't even make sense are you using?

PotatoSalad:
I feel like engaging you tonight, but you'll drag me down to your level and of course beat me with sheer ignorance.
But ya gazie nwannem

Hahahahaha

PotatoSalad:
I was right about preschool. Now run along

Hahahahahaha.

They used concrete to write letters ..the white plastic is also now concrete.

Please, go to school.

See difference below between charred concrete and plastic.

Jeez.

PotatoSalad:
Must Your god, not my God, put people in hardship to prove a point?
U be olodo sha. You no see say that sign was made of tiles and concrete?
Be like say only thing you and Righteousness2 studied after preschool was rapture

A plastic sign made of tiles and concrete?

The letters were also written with concrete?

Doesn't fire turn concrete black?

If I say you didn't go to school now and you are an Olodo you will take offence.

That's why you are also asking silly questions about God.

The education system in Nigeria needs serious change.

Tip101:
Bro, the first question you should have asked yourself is, who issued them visas? How in the world were 15000 Americans able to get visa to a country that has been blacklisted by America.... To a country that tops “America’s security risk countries to travel to. They won’t even let you go there to start with.

Most of those so called 15,000 Americans are Afghans. Those with dual citizenship, some are kids of military personnel’s that were deployed there. Some are SIVs.

I still maintain that, there are no real Americans among those people.

Wow...wow...People dey sha

.

Most people here didn't know him.

Including me.

lilfresh96:
Be careful for what you wish for

Always knew this kinda things would happen. Is it not Nigeria again.

Tip101:
This your post reeks of fake news. Where did you read that from? Which 11,000 Americans were left behind? Stop posting false informations. Same US that can go to war because of 1 American, will now leave 11,000 Americans behind? You must be joking bro.

Nigerians O Nigerians.

You see this is the problem with many of you. You see why the country is the way it is? And you na go dey blame Buhari.

Simple research you will not do.

Do you even watch the news at all?

Let me just give you two news articles.

LordReed:
He had the chance in Syria, did he not leave US bases and equipment behind?

Tryna compare Syria that we don't have any international outcry over with this current failure?

lexy2014:
Oga, with all d news u say u are watching, u mean u cant answer d simple questions as spin off from ur earlier points made? are d questions so difficult?

1. pls what has what nigerians say about buhari got to do with what we are talking about? i dont understand.

2. what is d strategy that d biden administration could have formulated?

3. why wouldnt he have withdrawn anybody?

4. if theres no basis to blame trump then what are u blaming biden for?

5. Previously u said:
Jeromejnr:
Biden could have just said, we ain't withdrawing nobody..se finis...but he didn't.
but now u are saying:

Jeromejnr:
3. No body said he shouldn't have withdrawn anyone...this was already talks since the Obama administration. The problem was the execution.
which should we follow? whats wrong with d execution?

Okay now I know you either have comprehension issues or just a troll.

2+2=4

Okay bye.

lexy2014:
u spilling ur emotions. u dont need to. u just need to calmly answer d questions:

1. pls what has what nigerians say about buhari got to do with what we are talking about? i dont understand.

2. what is d strategy that d biden administration could have formulated?

3. why wouldnt he have withdrawn anybody?

4. if theres no basis to blame trump then what are u blaming biden for?

5. Previously u said:


but now u are saying:

which should we follow?

Okay, it's just like I said..you just like that 2+2 example i gave.

There are some people that you tell them things but for some reason they always have trouble comprehending and putting info together to make sense out of it. So you have to break it to infinitesimal pieces which I don't have time to do.

You quoted me saying Biden could have said "no".

So how does that contradict all I have said?

Or isn't it you I told that during the Trump administration he said "no" different times in pulling the troops that it was too early?

If the driver of a country says "no", will anyone question him? Isn't he the one with the responsibility. Just like you blaming your Dad that because of him you raised your own child wrong.

The truth is that, I don't even have time to start typing plenty. Because I know you would not still get it.

Go and watch news oga and stay off Nairaland.

Last time I checked, CNN, MSNBC and NY times haven't blamed Trump in any of this debacle. Even the Biden administration isn't blaming Trump. So why should we listen to your opinion?

Abeg.

lexy2014:
u werent asked to debate. u were asked to answer simple questions based on d points u raised. since u have read ur first screenshot and watched d news, then answering my questions shouldnt be a challenge for u:

1. pls what has what nigerians say about buhari got to do with what we are talking about? i dont understand.

2. what is d strategy that d biden administration could have formulated?

3. why wouldnt he have withdrawn anybody?

4. if theres no basis to blame trump then what are u blaming biden for?

1. Your hypocrisy of blaming the past administration.

2. Very silly question.

3. No body said he shouldn't have withdrawn anyone...this was already talks since the Obama administration. The problem was the execution.

4. Because Trump isn't the one in power. And Biden is an incompetent, careless, lackadaisical driver of the free world. Plunging the free world into the ravine. He has betrayed people the U.S promised to help in Afghanistan...the allies of the U.S army, the journalists, the interpreters e.t.c even leaving behind the biometric tech that the Taliban is using now to track down all those who allied with the U.S.

So why not just go right down the rabbit hole then and also blame Obama..since the talks to withdraw the troops started from his administration.

lexy2014:
was d report i sent u not a CNN report?how can u not know how to answer my questions? arent they a follow up to d points u raised? can u defend ur points or u just making bogus points?

1. pls what has what nigerians say about buhari got to do with what we are talking about? i dont understand.

2. what is d strategy that d biden administration could have formulated?

3. why wouldnt he have withdrawn anybody?

4. if theres no basis to blame trump then what are u blaming biden for?

Bros..abeg you don't even know what to even debate about. Cause right now it's just like telling someone 2+2=4 and the other person is still asking how he got 4 over and over again.

If you want strategies, read the first screenshot I posted or watch the news.

kambili999:
Confusion everywhere

Indeed

lexy2014:
i thought u said that CNN wasnt blaming Trump but biden. but that was a CNN report. pls what has what nigerians say about buhari got to do with what we are talking about? i dont understand.
what is d strategy that d biden administration could have formulated? why wouldnt he have withdrawn anybody? if hteres no basis to blame trump then what are u blaming biden for?

What are you saying na?

Firstly see CNN article complaining about Biden administration blaming any other party.. so hiw have they been blaming Trump. Because all I have been seeing are bashings for MSM.

Secondly, what do you mean what will Biden have done? I don't even know if I should answer that question. Why did he leave over 11k Americans in Afghanistan who are now fearful for their lives?

What kinda of incompetency is that?

lexy2014:
pls read d folowing in order to understand what actually happened:

Let's note that the man leading the current Taliban offensive, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar -- the jihadi cleric who may become the next president of Afghanistan or, formally, the Emir of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan -- was being held in Pakistani and might still be there were it not for Trump.

In 2018, the Trump team asked Pakistan to free Baradar so he could travel to Doha for talks.
In Trump's eyes, Baradar may have looked a bit like North Korea's Kim Jong Un, the leader he could try to sweet talk and coax, showering him with praise while extracting essentially nothing from him, while drawing attention to himself and his theatrical "boldness".

In 2019, Trump wanted to bring the Taliban to Camp David, and he wanted to do it just in time for the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. His advisers persuaded him that bringing the leaders of a group responsible for killing thousands -- including thousands of Americans -- and still engaged in regular attacks against Afghan civilians, was not the best of ideas.

Trump relentlessly, cluelessly sabotaged peace talks, proclaiming his determination to pull out, and unexpectedly announcing troop reductions. His tweets became a major obstacle to negotiations, as he declared he was withdrawing US forces, the only leverage of US negotiators, without obtaining any real concessions from the Taliban.

In February 2020, Trump unveiled an agreement with the Taliban. The deal was an utter embarrassment, one of the worst ever negotiated by an American president. Under its terms, the United States not only agreed to withdraw by May 2021, it also committed itself to obtaining the release of 5,000 Taliban prisoners, and another thousand in subsequent months, fortifying the Taliban's fighting force. The US also promised to help lift all international sanctions against the Taliban. In exchange, the Taliban promised not to attack Americans until they left, and agreed to start talks with the Afghan government.

The supposed negotiations with Afghan representatives went nowhere, but the Americans started leaving. Trump kept tweeting he was pulling out the troops, removing any incentive for the Taliban to compromise. Afghan civilians were not fooled by Trump's so-called peace deal. Watching the signing, 28-year-old activist Zahra Husseini told AFP, "Today is a dark day...I had this bad feeling that it would result in [the Taliban's] return to power rather than in peace."She was right. But Trump was excited.

In one embarrassing moment, Trump phoned Mullah Baradar. He had a "very good talk," with the Taliban leader, he crowed, "The relationship is very good that I have with the mullah." Later, he said, "They want to cease violence." Observers sighed in despair. Just the day before, the Taliban had launched dozens of attacks. The Taliban was already taking advantage of Trump's terrible deal.

CNN

Wait, wait...are you still blaming Trump's administration?

Is it not same Nigerians that say Buhari should stop blame games?

There is no basis to blame Trump here whatsoever.

Firstly the withdrawal did not occur during his Presidency.

Secondly, Biden's administration could have formulated their own strategy if they were smart enough. Its a new administration. They didn't even follow what Trump had in mind so what's the blame on Trump?

Biden could have just said, we ain't withdrawing nobody..se finis...but he didn't.

Trump said in one of his conferences, if the Taliban were to try any rubbish, they would immediately respond.

But here, Biden is on vacation licking ice cream and could care less.

thedio:
U can read ur comment over again and blame Joe Biden. U said for years Afghan army were ill equip and I wonder how many years has Biden rule US to acquired such blames

Why don't you ask CNN and,NY times who are also blaming Biden for lack of strategy in the withdrawal.

Now there are over 11k Americans trapped in the country without means of help.

At least Trump had a strategy of leaving behind a few troops and even pending the withdrawal because they declared it wasn't right yet.

But Joe....

ThierryJay:
Biden has been there for only 7 months! So how does this fall on him and not on Trump based on your own statement? When Trump signed off America to withdraw from Afghanistan by May 1st, were you expecting them to still remain there in July to keep fighting for Afghan forces?

If they fight and hold off the Taliban now, and leave by October instead, are you still not going to say the same thing when the Taliban takes over the country in November? Or is the expectation that American soldiers should never leave Afghanistan to ward off Taliban, in which case you'd be saying Trump was wrong ab initio to sign off on withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.

Or is it just a case of blame Biden syndrome for you whether it makes sense or not?

If you had followed Trump's briefings..you would have seen where he mentioned his strategy was to leave about 2000 troops and also send in reinforcements if the Talibans ever breached the deal. He even at different times had to delay to withdrawal of troops because of past experiences.

I mean its online.

All these ignorant blaming of Trump. Even CNN, NY times and MSNBC isn't blaming Trump but blaming Biden.

Gadafii:
special adviser to POTUS, tell us one of the many things they could have done to stop the Taliban advance and the eventual capitulation of Kabul

For forrk sake, why are you not blaming over 300k Afghan soldiers that could even put up a fight against 70k talibans, and flee like a dog with flees, America said they ant continue to be involved in another countrys civil war, Afghanistan wants America to keep spoon feeding them, even with all the high tech gadgets and weaponry they got from America, all of these now had fallen into talibans hands and should America be blamed for that too

Instead of spewing ignorance. You can go on msnbc and watch a U.S veteran interview on why the Afghan army couldn't fight back.

Summary, he blamed Biden and not the Afghans.

Why?

Because for years, the Afghan army weren't being funded and were ill equipped, without fuel or ammunition. Even with all that the Afghan army were still putting up a fight. And the U.S just bailed out on them.

Very incompetent administration.

Murjem:
Stop spreading fake news my friend!!

Where is any evidence so far that shows they have been executing those that supported the U.S. Army...??

I have been following the news as the news unfold since the Taliban took over mantle of leadership. From their public press conference granted to most of the international Media.

Obviously, you've not been watching the news.

Obviously you didn't also see images of people being crucified.

Obviously you are not informed.

Go online.

SmartPolician:
It's crystal clear that a vast majority of Afghan people wanted the Taliban government. There's nothing to pretend about it. Whether Muaz Magazi says it or not, the facts remain for all to see. The US just wasted their time and resources for two decades.

The bottom line is that Osama Bin Laden has been killed. The US just needs to keep monitoring the activities of the Taliban government. If they become a threat to our world, the United States will step in and put them where they belong again.

And who told you with Biden U.S will step in?

Have you not seen the press conference and his lackadaisical attitude?

What of the 11000 Americans still left in Afghanistan that the incompetent administration is saying they don't know how to get the Americans to the airport safely?

Very incompetent, even leaving behind state of the art weapons and destructive drones for the Taliban.

Smh.

Trump's strategy was to leave behind about 2000 troops and when needed, send back reinforcements in case of Taliban breaking the deal.

But no..Biden and his team just pulled everyone out..well except for 11000 of their own civilians.

Now they are going about and executing those who supported the U.S army among them, what has Biden done?.

motayoayinde:
SO YOU BELIEVE THE "KILL LIST" NONSENSE?

WHERE'S THE LIST?
WHICH WESTERN MEDIA SAW IT FROM THEIR LONDON AND WASHINGTON OFFICES WHEN THEIR CORRESPONDENTS HAVE BEEN HURRIED EVACUATED?

I'M SURE THE FIGHTERS ARE JUST DOING ROUTINE SEARCH.

THEY POSTED THIS PICS THEMSELVES YOU KNOW?

Are you trying to say they ain't killing people?

Have you not seen them crucifying some Afghans?

WiszyFraud:

While Africans are busy with religion..


R.i.p sir !!

Are you comparing Africa to one of the most hard-core religious places on the planet, where he is from?

You don't have to announce you don't like religion. Religion isn't your problem, you are your own problem. What have you done without your religion?

And most of you are busy slaving away in organizations owned by religious people.

Reference:
When they are told to get vaccinated they will make mockery and play games.
Actions or in-actions as in this case have consequences.
Protect yourself with a vaccine, protect others with PPR and sanitation... but they say no. We prefer sickness and death..
So the 'ayes' have it.
Life is so simple for those willing to live by the rules.

Sorry, life doesn't work the way you think It works.

Nah...After what my sister went through. Not interested.

See how they are pushing passionately something FDA hasn't even approved. Only emergency authorization.

There is no emergency here.

Patrioticman007:
Jesus son of Mary said " he without sins, should cast the first stone".

The evils of Christianity is still unmatched.
1. Adolf Hitler a Christian caused the death of more than 70,000,000. Souls during the WWII.

2. The Crusade wars led by Catholic church caused the death of more 15,000,000. Souls.

3. The transatlantic slave trade led by the church caused the death of more than 50,000,000 souls & destruction of lives in Africa.

4. The constitadors led by church of Spain killed & estaminated more than half the population of south Americans & lastly the neocolonialism is still unmatched.
The above facts are meant for minds that will Google them before insulting Islam.

Lol..stop spreading false info.

Adolf wasn't a Chrsitian. ..he grew up in a Chrsitian home but left saying it was a scam and ended up hating all religions and killed Jews and Chrsitians.

The crusade was a response to the killings of Christians that had been happening for many years and to defend the sacred holy land. As a result, the catholics decided to retaliate.

Stop giving half info to bring up false narratives.

The Constitador and slave led by Christianity is a pure blatant lie. Stop mixing religion and politics.

If you don't know history get proper education online and stop twisting truth.

If Africans like, let them be asleep.

A satire...

Raalsalghul:
Are you telling me that there was not some effort from your part?

There was no effort sir.

Especially with the alcoholism. I just went for a party one day..ordered my drink as usual, tasted it and it became wierdly uncomfortable in my mouth..i couldn't finish it..even as other people gave me more to try..I couldn't and didn't drink. And that was it. Before that my throat would itch and crave for Vodka. Or beer...but it ended there. That was 2010.