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fuckboys:
use qasa,

I use qasa dc standing and ceiling fan. The breeze is mad.

Can you post the model you use for both ceiling and standing fans?

codemaster2much:
how is the experience boss. I currently use a century dc standing fan and to be honest the current of the air isn't as great as ac fan even at higher speed

I'm yet to install it boss but it was recommended by a gamehouse owner who's using it and had no complains so far

jFrankNorfleet:
I'd run installation for my gamehouse within the next 2-3 weeks

Pls house I need you to tell me what's wrong with this quote given by my prospective installer. Focus less on the price and more on if the setup will be okay for the gamehouse and how to prevent issues with the setup


These are what the gamehouse would comprise


Lg LCD 32 inches TV 140w *2
Samsung 32 inches led 56 watts *3
Samsung 32 inches lcd TV 110 watts *2
Samsung 15 inches lcd TV 40 Watts *3
PS2 fat 80w 3pcs
PS3 super slim -85Watts 2 pcs
PS3 slim-85 watts 5pcs
PS4 slim 100w 2pcs
Ps5 1 pc 200w
Yokaho DC ceiling fan 40w 1pc
1 duravolt 18 inch standing fan 27w 1pc

Note: I'm yet to get ps5 but it's in the pipeline. Also only 7 out of the combination of 10 PS3, ps4 and ps5 can be operational at once due to limited number of 32 inch TVs




This is what he quoted for me for the above setup


SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
Growatts 6kva solar inverter: ₦620,000
Growatts battery (5.5 kW/h x2): ₦2,224,000
Jinko solar photovoltaic panels(615 watts):
₦129,000x8=₦1,032,000
ACCESSORIES AND OTHERS
1 DC SURGE (500)₦12,000
1 DC BREAKER (32amps)₦15,000
1 AC SURGE (500)₦12,000
2 AC BREAKER (63amps)x2 ₦30,000
1 DC BREAKER (63amps)₦15,000
OTHERS:
18 way breaker box:₦20,000
4 way breaker box:₦13,000
Knife switch change over:₦12,000
Trunking pipe(50x50)x3:₦12,000
Photovoltaic panels rails(x3)₦15,000
Photovoltaic panels bot 'n' screws(14)₦4,200
Solar connector /MC 4 plug(2)₦2,000
CABLES:
photovoltaic panels DC cable (17 meter)₦61,200
AC CABLE (input) (16 meter)₦64,000
AC CABLE (output) (16 meter)₦64,000


PURCHASE COST:₦4,227,400



Is there something that should be tweaked for more efficiency?

Earlier in the day I picked up yohako DC ceiling fan

Recommended by @Ojuroye

jFrankNorfleet:
I'd run installation for my gamehouse within the next 2-3 weeks

Pls house I need you to tell me what's wrong with this quote given by my prospective installer. Focus less on the price and more on if the setup will be okay for the gamehouse and how to prevent issues with the setup


These are what the gamehouse would comprise


Lg LCD 32 inches TV 140w *2
Samsung 32 inches led 56 watts *3
Samsung 32 inches lcd TV 110 watts *2
Samsung 15 inches lcd TV 40 Watts *3
PS2 fat 80w 3pcs
PS3 super slim -85Watts 2 pcs
PS3 slim-85 watts 5pcs
PS4 slim 100w 2pcs
Ps5 1 pc 200w
Yokaho DC ceiling fan 40w 1pc
1 duravolt 18 inch standing fan 27w 1pc

Note: I'm yet to get ps5 but it's in the pipeline. Also only 7 out of the combination of 10 PS3, ps4 and ps5 can be operational at once due to limited number of 32 inch TVs




This is what he quoted for me for the above setup


SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
Growatts 6kva solar inverter: ₦620,000
Growatts battery (5.5 kW/h x2): ₦2,224,000
Jinko solar photovoltaic panels(615 watts):
₦129,000x8=₦1,032,000
ACCESSORIES AND OTHERS
1 DC SURGE (500)₦12,000
1 DC BREAKER (32amps)₦15,000
1 AC SURGE (500)₦12,000
2 AC BREAKER (63amps)x2 ₦30,000
1 DC BREAKER (63amps)₦15,000
OTHERS:
18 way breaker box:₦20,000
4 way breaker box:₦13,000
Knife switch change over:₦12,000
Trunking pipe(50x50)x3:₦12,000
Photovoltaic panels rails(x3)₦15,000
Photovoltaic panels bot 'n' screws(14)₦4,200
Solar connector /MC 4 plug(2)₦2,000
CABLES:
photovoltaic panels DC cable (17 meter)₦61,200
AC CABLE (input) (16 meter)₦64,000
AC CABLE (output) (16 meter)₦64,000


PURCHASE COST:₦4,227,400



Is there something that should be tweaked for more efficiency?

I just picked up Deye inverter 6KVA and 16kwh lithium ion battery

bassdow:
Generally, Growatt is a budget brand. You get what you pay for. If you see the ones that wouldn't packUp within a few years, most still wouldn't buy due to cost.

TransformerLess inverters generally can't last as much as Transformer based inverters BUT even among them, quality matters.

Now add the fact a lot of people abuse their inverters.

What I do for most clients when buying or recommending inverters for them is: if they need 2Kva, I recommend at least 3.5kva or 4.2kva

That way, chances of them ever reaching 40% load would be very far.

How do you mean "40% load"?

AyobamiOluwole:
deriy
Deye

But buy from a shop you can hold accountable.
I think you can get deye from Fuoani.

I plan to get Deye 16Kwh lifep04 battery. Costs 2.68m at the moment

AyobamiOluwole:
I will recommend you buy from trusted sellers here who will give you warranty and also build system using correct batteries like:
Dam5reey
MrReed
Valto

But if you fear them, or they are far away from you, then find any certified Felicity Solar shop to buy a battery with warranty card. Mind you, Felicity batteries are ok but I’d rate them tier 2.

As for the battery size, a ~4Kwh and above battery will be ok especially if your freezer is not a Solar freezer and will also run 24/7.

What brands of batteries would you rate tier 1?

motta:
Electric hot plate available now
Small 8k
Medium 11k
Big 13k.
Double - 15k

They are new

Location.. Lagos & Porthacourt ..

pics

Mrreed:
Dami sells the 6kva for circa 550k
I believe you will also get a better price for the protection boxes.
Bread currently sells 590w panel for 116-118k in Lagos.
You have no business with 5kwh batteries

Who's Dami? who's bread? Also tell me more about the batteries. What would you recommend?

Are Fouani store solar equipments trusted here. Their Deye battery and inverter? Anyone has had a bad experience with them?

ebrymDIY:
Hi

I made a quick run based on what you post. Details below:
1. You daily energy consumption is around 20KWH assuming you run all appliances for 12hours with 3days autonomy. This make total battery storage bank higher and oversized.
2. I also did a quick run saving should you use generator and daily fuel purchase of 15000 for like 6-8hrs also assuming you have s 5kva generator to run these thing. see image 2.
3. Image 3 shows the full energy audit result based on your post and benchmark assumptions.
3. From the quote, there are still questions around the cable sizing which are not clear. This is soley for safety reason.
Further more, you can view the full detail report with your exact quote below.https://www.solarspec.com.ng/p/95144d66709a44248fa572a93e62e358bcfbf3f28856331d

Recommendations: I think you should look at the cost savings over a period of time. The major problems of going solar or off-grid is the initial capital. In most cases, the system pays for itself over a short period of time compared to the lower cost enjoyed from running a generator and all other future running cost that comes with owning a generator set.

Lastly, everything i said here are based on assumptions, you might want to request for a proper energy audit from your installer and do not leave anything.

Thanks brother. You really went to town on this one for my sake.

Once again thank you.

What sizes of wires would you recommend?

abuzz33:
Is your business constantly busy from morning till night?

It's very unpredictable. Sometimes it's very busy and sometimes not

abuzz33:
If you have that kind of grid power why do you need solar panels? I would take the 1m you are spending on panels, pv breakers and wiring and increase your battery capacity to 15-20kwh and charge your battery from the grid overnight when your biz is closed.

I was told that my battery of 5.5kwh*2 would last only 6 hours at full load when both sun and light are not available. If that's true, which is yet to be established, it means 15kwh should last roughly 9hours which wouldn't be enough to get me off grid from 9am to 9pm

justasitis:
For future growth and expansion in your business, I will suggest you try to go for a 15kwh/16kwh LiFepo4 battery, an 8kva hybrid inverter and increase your solar panels to either 615wx12 or 650wx10.

I don't think I'd ever need more than 6kv inverter as the shop has limited space and cannot take any more games although I'd be interested to know what other benefits a higher kV inverter would do for me asides adding more loads

I do see suggestions about adding more panels and batteries

AyobamiOluwole:
You would have made life easier had you stated your total load at a go (straight figure like 4.2Kwh, 5kwh etc.). From there we’ll do the maths for efficiency for you.

Forgive my ignorance I don't know how to do that

Gshems:
Why not close eye buy a single 15kw battery the price difference isn't that plenty for the extra 5kw. You go need buy more panels later to charge more efficiently

Okay, so 15KWH? Also how many panels would you suggest?


Also what about the safety devices? Wiring? Are they okay or should I change them?

dacool1:
You need to share the time you open for the day and close for the day. Your battery might not be sufficient. As your battery back up after sundown is less than 4hrs. Your panels might not be sufficient too.

As for efficiency, if you can swap your TVs to more energy efficient ones, you will get better result

I open 9am everyday except Thursdays. We usually close around 11PM to 12AM although it's very rare for me to close without power supply as power usually comes between 7-9pm then stays till the next day around 6am

What do you suggest I do? Add more panel or more batteries?

I do plan to change the LCDs to Led but for budget reasons it would only be done one by one

Also what about the safety devices? Wiring? Are they okay or should I change them?

I'd run installation for my gamehouse within the next 2-3 weeks

Pls house I need you to tell me what's wrong with this quote given by my prospective installer. Focus less on the price and more on if the setup will be okay for the gamehouse and how to prevent issues with the setup


These are what the gamehouse would comprise


Lg LCD 32 inches TV 140w *2
Samsung 32 inches led 56 watts *3
Samsung 32 inches lcd TV 110 watts *2
Samsung 15 inches lcd TV 40 Watts *3
PS2 fat 80w 3pcs
PS3 super slim -85Watts 2 pcs
PS3 slim-85 watts 5pcs
PS4 slim 100w 2pcs
Ps5 1 pc 200w
Yokaho DC ceiling fan 40w 1pc
1 duravolt 18 inch standing fan 27w 1pc

Note: I'm yet to get ps5 but it's in the pipeline. Also only 7 out of the combination of 10 PS3, ps4 and ps5 can be operational at once due to limited number of 32 inch TVs




This is what he quoted for me for the above setup


SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
Growatts 6kva solar inverter: ₦620,000
Growatts battery (5.5 kW/h x2): ₦2,224,000
Jinko solar photovoltaic panels(615 watts):
₦129,000x8=₦1,032,000
ACCESSORIES AND OTHERS
1 DC SURGE (500)₦12,000
1 DC BREAKER (32amps)₦15,000
1 AC SURGE (500)₦12,000
2 AC BREAKER (63amps)x2 ₦30,000
1 DC BREAKER (63amps)₦15,000
OTHERS:
18 way breaker box:₦20,000
4 way breaker box:₦13,000
Knife switch change over:₦12,000
Trunking pipe(50x50)x3:₦12,000
Photovoltaic panels rails(x3)₦15,000
Photovoltaic panels bot 'n' screws(14)₦4,200
Solar connector /MC 4 plug(2)₦2,000
CABLES:
photovoltaic panels DC cable (17 meter)₦61,200
AC CABLE (input) (16 meter)₦64,000
AC CABLE (output) (16 meter)₦64,000


PURCHASE COST:₦4,227,400



Is there something that should be tweaked for more efficiency?

Ebubemg:
Heat Extractor fan (never been used) 15k each

Window blind
Drey
5 by 4.5feet 25k

Red
4.5 by 3.5 feet 20k

Lagos
08131925948

What's the wattage of the heat extractor?

mctfopt:
If you buy the cheapo. Have been using mine for more than 4 years now with no issue.

Buy a good brand, don't cheap out and you are good.

Recently upgraded mine this year. Same result.

Don't just buy cheaply made one.

The pot cover of my recent purchase weighs 1.62kg

How much did you get it?

100FIX1:
This one too has escaped the mad house.

Boy?
Kiosk stand?

Go and pick him up there.

I'm sure I'm not the one.

He just "Defamed" you by saying you're a boy who sells rubbish phones in kiosk stand. I'd be expecting your posting here about how he's in custody and would appear in court.

Or are you going to let this one get away with it? Spring into action quickly

twinskenny:
Today installations

6kva deye inverter

16kwh deye lithium battery'

8 no of 620w jinko panels

Installed at Lekki Lagos

How much was the total package?

100FIX1:
Update on this matter

Friday, 26th of June.

Court Trial Has Commenced to wit, Examination in chief.

Defamation doesn't pay.

Flee from crimes!

100FIX 2026.

Fork off

NSEstudent:
The problem is not the inverter but the purity of the AC going into it. The usual way of passing grid to inverter is to first ensure correct range of say 170-240V. This can be done using some of these digital voltage/current limiters. Then pass the grid to an appropriately sized servo AVR before hitting the inverter. Not forgetting to use and appropriately connect SPDs. You can hardly go wrong in this way.

What of a strong stabilizer?

AyarmBoye:
Good evening guys
I have the following items for sale in my viewing centre

About 16 unit of benches( a bench contains 4 viewers)
1 box orl industrial
1 small Industrial fan
2 Dstv decoders and dishes
A 42 inches tv (tiny ink on face from the day I bought it,,alaba boys conceded it until I say it at home )
16 inches TV (2units)
Sound system with 2 big speakers
Ps2 with games and 2 pads (2 units)
PS3 slim with 2 pads
PS4 fat 2 pads

Why are you closing it down boss?

If you have low wattage TV 32 inches nonsmart quote me. I need about 4 pcs

Ezimuoh:
Ps4 slim draws 90w

I got this from ai answer

"The PlayStation 4 Slim has a maximum power rating of 165 watts. However, during actual gameplay, it typically draws much less—averaging between 110 and 145 watts, making it the most energy-efficient model compared to the original PS4 and PS4 Pro."

bassdow:
First this list looks like it was copied via searchEngine.

Secondly, you failed to equally include the wattage of the Games themselves.

From the little I've checked, ps2s draw around 40w give or take

PS3 slim is 75 watts give or take, same with PS3 slim

PS4 slim is around 150 watts

it also failed to specify the quantity of solar panels

8pcs sir

Also except brand names are included, doubt we could do much vetting of the accessories you shared which even don't seem to have enough information to be sure it's for the rated load.

what brands would you recommend?

meanWhile, shouldn't you try to keep costs low or you sure you would recoup the costs of all these within 2-years from said business? Just wondering.

Im here for long haul

Couldn't respond yesterday because I thought others would have done so by now.

Thanks

twinskenny:
How many number of 615w panels?

Go for direct 16 or 15kwh battery

And also the installer need to list the size of cable to be used and also the size of the breakers

He said 8 bifacial. What size of cables and breakers would you recommend based on what I've said so far?

Unfaized:
If you're going totally off-grid I would suggest 10-15kwh battery.
PlayStations are power hungry.

Try and find out their power ratings though for better recommendations.

Thanks for this

From the little I've checked, ps2s draw around 40w give or take

PS3 slim is 75 watts give or take, same with PS3 slim

PS4 slim is around 150 watts

Glocal1:
What is the total cost of this setup?
It suits my home plan.

He quoted 4.6 million including installation charges

He quoted this 3 months ago so some prices, I assume, might've changed

What does "Pallet" mean here?