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bxcode:
Andrew Wommack is a rare preacher in this our generation, God had really used him to reveal his supernatural love and power to me. I have lots of his teachings like A better way to pray, Knowing God, Grace and faith, Limiting God etc. and the intimacy I have come to develope with Jesus ever since is my greatest treasure now and I wouldn't trade it for anything on this earth. It's been awesome
God is truly love and he is good God.

So true bro

segebobo:
I'm still trying to fully comprehend the full meaning of this Grace

Grace is God's Unmerited Favour towards us.

Noted

HenryDion:
jiggaz
You have lifted my spirit. Thanks so much for your words. I appreciate.

You welcome bro. Click on my profile and read some of the articles there, it will lift your Spirit the more. Have a great day.

My brother don't be let down please. Hold fast to your faith and believe in Christ Jesus, that is all that matters..... You see, i keep saying it that the righteousness Believers should claim is the righteousness of Christ and His finished work on the Cross.

Most Christians think that righteousness is good works or strict living but they get it wrong. The righteousness God was talking of in the Bible is the righteousness of Faith in Christ. When you give your life to Christ and accept Him as your Lord and Personal Saviour, you receive His righteousness by FAITH. And from then, you are a new Creation, old things have passed away and all things have become new. You might not feel it immediately cos the transformation happened in your Spirit man. Man is made up of the SPIRIT ( which is the real you ) , the SOUL ( your mind and emotion ) and then the BODY. It is when your Spirit man is transformed by your Salvation, then the Holy Spirit will now dwell inside you to help you renew your soul & body. It doesn't happen immediately, its gradually.

But that doesn't mean you will be perfect oo, you wont cos you are still in your fallen body and you still sin every now and then but the blood of Jesus Christ cleanses you from all unrighteousness. It is only your SPIRIT that is pure and blameless before God and when that person dies, he will go to Heaven.

Thats why i keep telling people not to immortalise their Pastors or top people in the Church, they are not perfect cos they are humans. They still have secret sins they are battling with. The only person you should trust is Christ Jesus, the author and the finisher of your FAITH.

Please don't be downcast, keep to your Faith in Christ. You have a bright future.

In my previous article, i wrote about how Tiwa Savage helped and killed Mocheddah's music career and ascended the THRONE as the Queen of Naija Pop Music.

I also wrote another article, how Yemi Alade was planning a Coup D'etat to dethrone Tiwa Savage and she has finally achieved her aim.... Presently, Yemi Alade is the BIGGEST & MOST POPULAR Nigerian Female Singer across Africa!!!! Omo, this babe is huge across AFRICA!!! She has virtually toured the whole African countries, from her sold-out Stadium Concerts in Tanzania, Togo, Namibia etc... To her awards when she clinched the BEST FEMALE in Africa at the last MTV MAMA Award.

A music promoter in Namibia was telling me sometime ago that Yemi Alade is the number one Nigerian Female artiste in Namibia and that her songs are on heavy rotation. She's also very BIG in East Africa and also West African countries. Congrats Yemi, its not easy. I watched your career grow from 2009 during Peak Talent Show where u emerged the winner. Hard Work pays.

Meanwhile, Seyi Shay is rising very fast in the industry too, Yemi you might want to watch your back oo. Cos i think Seyi is planning another Coup D'etat on you as you did Tiwa I wish Tiwa all the best as she comes back from Omugwo....... Nigerian artistes are the best.... They are talented except the ones dat sing Kpangolo music.

Dis is an inspiring article by Pastor JOSEPH PRINCE....



Christians celebrate Christmas to commemorate the birth of
our Lord Jesus, knowing that He came to give us eternal
life. But how many realize that Jesus also came to give us
the gift of no condemnation? Once we receive this gift and
see that God no longer condemns us, then we can truly have
peace with Him while still on earth!
John 3:16—“ For God so loved the world that He gave His only
begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish
but have everlasting life. ”—is probably the most well-known
verse in the Bible. If there is a memory verse competition in
the church, and someone stands up and quotes John 3:16, I
think half the congregation will say, “There goes my
memory verse!”

The Reason For Christmas

However, not many people know the verse that comes after
that. And it is this verse that gives us the reason for
Christmas:
John 3:17
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the
world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
Unfortunately, Christianity has been misrepresented and
used in many circles—be it by Hollywood or in churches—to
condemn people. Yet, the truth is that God did not send His
Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save it.
That is why the angel Gabriel said to Mary, “ …you will
conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His
name Jesus . ” (Luke 1:31) Do you know that His name means
“Savior” in Hebrew? His name could have been “Judge” or
“Lawgiver”. But of all the names He could have used, He
chose the name “Savior” because the purpose for His
coming was to save us and not to condemn us.

The Gift Of No Condemnation

Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in
Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but
according to the Spirit.

Today, God wants you to receive the gift of no
condemnation. This gift will cause you to walk tall and be a
true success. This gift will also save you from a life of
stress, fear, restlessness, and even sickness and disease.
That is because everything that happens in your soul—the
emotional and mental realms—will affect your physical body
if it is not properly dealt with.
Doctors are beginning to realize that more people are
suffering from psychosomatic illnesses nowadays. They
are realizing that the majority of patients would not be
suffering from their physical conditions if they had known
how to handle their emotional afflictions such as fear, stress
and worry.
It is interesting to know that the word “condemnation” in the
original Greek means “condemning sentence”. Stress is a
condemning sentence. Sickness and disease is a
condemning sentence. But there is therefore now no
condemning sentence for those who are in Christ Jesus!

What It Means To Be In Christ Jesus

Now, according to Romans 8:1, who are those who qualify
for this gift of no condemnation? They are the ones who are
in Christ Jesus. And today, you are in Christ Jesus, not
Jesus Christ.

You might ask, “Pastor Prince, is there a difference between
being in Christ Jesus and being in Jesus Christ?”
Yes, there is! “Jesus” is His human name, but “Christ” is
His official title. Before He died and rose again, He was
Jesus Christ. But after His resurrection, He became Christ
Jesus. “Christ” is now placed in front of “Jesus” because it
reflects His resurrected nature. And God wants us to know
that we are now alive in the risen Christ, the all-glorified One
who said, “ All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on
earth, ” (Matthew 28:18) after He rose from the dead!
When you believe in Christ and put your faith in Him, God
the Father sees you in Christ Jesus. He sees you in the risen
Christ who is seated at His right hand. All that Jesus is, you
are. And all that He has, you have. The Bible tells us that “ as
He is, so are we in this world ”. (1 John 4:17) Can Christ who
is seated at the Father’s right hand ever be condemned?
No. Well, neither can you, because you are in Him.

Not Right Doing But Right Being

However, Romans 8:1 has been so misunderstood by many
Christians. There are believers who think that there is
therefore now no condemnation for those who are in
Christ…as long as they do what is right.
Now, I am for what is right. I am not for what is wrong. But
that is not the criterion by which we are justified. We are
justified by the obedience of Christ.

I know that some people will say, “But Pastor Prince, the
rest of Romans 8:1 goes on to say that the gift of no
condemnation is only for those who do not walk according
to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. That is the criterion
to qualify for the gift of no condemnation!”
“ …who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the
Spirit ” is not there in the original manuscript. It was added
by Bible interpreters. And you can verify this truth in any
good Bible commentary. In fact, the New American Standard
Bible is one version of the Bible that leaves this verse in its
original form.

Therefore, the only reason that you are not condemned is
that you are in Christ Jesus. That is the only requirement.
So what does it mean: “ There is therefore now no
condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus ”? The answer
is found in the word “ therefore”. Wherever you find the word
“ therefore”, find out what it is there for.
It is there because of what the apostle Paul wrote in the
previous chapter. In Romans 7, Paul wrote about his own
struggles and how he was condemned by the law that he
knew so well as a Pharisee. He said, “ For the good that I will
to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I
practice. ” (Romans 7:19)
So Romans 8:1 only means something when you have done
wrong, because that is when the gift of no condemnation
matters to you. All of us qualify for this gift because we
have failed to keep all the Ten Commandments perfectly.
And God says, “In Christ, I don’t condemn you. Now, don’t
condemn yourself. Go and sin no more.” God is for you not
living a lifestyle of sin. But the power to do this comes when
you receive the gift of no condemnation.

Some people may say, “Pastor Prince, some people might
take this gift and start using it to live a licentious lifestyle!”
My friend, people who live a licentious lifestyle do not
believe this truth. They have not truly received this gift.
Many of them are already self-condemned and are doomed
to repeat their sin.

Do you know that God does not say that there is no
condemnation based on His whim and fancy? He does not
say, “Never mind, boys will be boys,” and then sweeps
everything under the carpet. If He did that, He would be
unrighteous. No, He has to condemn our sins. That is why
He sent Jesus to suffer the condemnation for us.
Today, you are not condemned because all the sins of your
entire life have already been condemned in the body of
another at the cross on Calvary. Jesus bore it all! And all
lawyers know the law of double jeopardy: The same crime
cannot be punished twice. Your sins cannot be condemned
in the body of your substitute, and then in your own life!

He Has Released You From The Law Of Sin And Death

Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free
from the law of sin and death.
Everything and everyone on earth is subject to the law of
gravity. However, this law is broken every day at airports all
over the world because there is a law that is higher than the
law of gravity. Whenever an aeroplane takes off, the law of
thrust and lift overcomes the law of gravity.

Likewise, there is only one law that is higher than the law of
sin and death. There is only one law that overcomes the law
of sin and death that brings sickness and disease into your
life. The only way to be set free from the law of sin and
death is when the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus is
released into your life.
So how is this law released? Notice that Romans 8:2 starts
with the word “ for ”. This means that it is connected with the
previous verse, Romans 8:1. So the law of the Spirit of life is
released when you receive the gift of no condemnation into
your life!

Do you know that people who call themselves “freethinkers”
are not free at all? They are bound by thoughts of fear,
inferiority, lust and pride. They are bound by thoughts of sin
and cannot stop thinking such thoughts. They also grow old
very fast, and have sicknesses and diseases. They are
under the law of sin and death because they are without
Christ. They are not in Christ.
It is only when you are in Christ that you are free to think,
because Christ came to set you free. And if the Son sets
you free, you shall be free indeed! (John 8:36) There is a
freedom that comes when you know that you are not
condemned because you are in Christ. And when you
receive the gift of no condemnation, you release the power
to overcome the law of sin and death in your life!

The Power To Go And Sin No More

In John 8:1–6, Jesus was at the temple when the scribes
and Pharisees brought to Him a woman who had been
caught in the very act of adultery. They tried to test Jesus
by asking Him whether she should be stoned according to
the law of Moses.
Now, they were trying to trap Jesus because if Jesus said,
“ Stone her,” they would say to the people, “So much for His
teachings about God’s love and being sent to the world not
to condemn, but to save.” But if He said, “Don’t stone her,”
then they would accuse Him of breaking the law.

So what did Jesus do? He wrote on the ground with His
finger. He did so not because He could not answer. He did
this to demonstrate that He was the one who wrote the Ten
Commandments on two tablets of stone with His finger
during Moses’ time. (Exodus 31:18)
Then, Jesus said, “ He who is without sin among you, let him
throw a stone at her first. ” (John 8:7) And one by one, those
who heard this walked away, being convicted by their
conscience. Now, let’s look at what Jesus did next:
John 8:10–11
When Jesus had raised Himself up and saw no one but the
woman, He said to her, “Woman, where are those accusers of
yours? Has no one condemned you?” She said, “No one, Lord.”
And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin
no more.”
Many people like to quote the last phrase, “ go and sin no
more. ” But it does not release the power to go and sin no
more. That is because the law of the Spirit of life in Christ
Jesus is only released to set you free from the law of sin
and death when you first receive the gift of no
condemnation. That is why Jesus gave the woman the gift
of no condemnation before He told her to “ go and sin no
more ”!
I love to say it like this: The Pharisees would condemn her,
but they could not. Jesus could condemn her, but He would
not. Hallelujah!
So those people who think that the preaching of no
condemnation will cause people to sin more don’t fully
understand what Jesus said in John 8:11. The only way for
people to go and sin no more—the only way for people to be
empowered in their life, to walk in peace, joy and faith, and
to live the abundant life that Jesus came to give us—is to
understand that there is now no condemnation in Christ.

Two Things Will Happen To You

When you realize and understand that there is therefore now
no condemnation in Christ, two things will happen to you.

The first thing that will happen when you understand that
God does not condemn you in Christ is that you will stop
condemning yourself. Do you know that many people who
are always angry are like that because of guilt? For
example, when a man feels guilty for not being able to
provide for his family, he gets angry and takes it out on his
wife.
It is like having a small pebble in your shoe. You cannot
walk properly because it is bothering you. So it is with guilt.
And you must resolve it by going to God and thanking Him
that there is therefore now no condemnation because your
sins have already been punished in the body of His Son.
As long as you think that God condemns you, you will
condemn yourself. And your body and mind are so
intelligent that, unconsciously, they believe that you want to
punish yourself. So they will say, “Okay, it’s time to pass a
condemning sentence on this body!” And sickness is
produced. Disease is produced. But long before symptoms
manifest in your body, you were already a walking civil war.

The second thing that will happen when you understand that
God does not condemn you in Christ is that you will stop
condemning others. You will not condemn those who are
also in Christ for their failures. You will even look at the
world with eyes of no condemnation because you will see
them the way Jesus sees them—as lost sheep who are
without a shepherd. And He said, “ I am the good shepherd.
The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. ” (John 10:11)
Praise the Lord!

Walk In Peace And Be Healthy


Today, the only place that is totally safe and secure is in
Christ. Once you receive the gift of no condemnation into
your heart, meditate on it and have a no-condemnation
mentality. And you will begin to walk in peace—the same
peace that Jesus always walked in.

Jesus was always cool. He was never in a hurry. He could
even sleep in a boat that was in the midst of a storm. In the
incident in Mark 4:35–39, it was not the storm that woke
Him up, but the cry of His disciples. And when He awoke, He
said to the wind and sea, “ Peace, be still! ” It takes someone
who is inwardly at peace to change a hostile environment
into a peaceful one. He also calmed the storm in the hearts
of His disciples, which is where it all began. You can have
that same peace because you are in Christ!

As you walk in that peace, you will soon discover that you
are getting healthier, and that some of the chronic problems
you used to experience in your body are gone. You will
wake up one day and realize that the pain is gone. Why?
Because when you are at peace with God and with yourself,
your body will be at peace with you!

http://www.josephprince.org/daily-grace/articles/single/receive-the-gift-no-condemnation-and-walk-in-peace/

chigo93:
Insighthful!

Yes it is!!!

This message is a reminder to all of us who have been listening to the gospel of grace for some time now. The Lord is revealing to us the secret to living a transformed life. It’s time for us to remove all the buttons in our lives that the devil constantly presses. Let’s get to the deepest root that causes all our problems.

Recently, the Lord told me, “Son, what I showed you some time ago—that condemnation kills—it’s time to take it seriously. You’ve been preaching to the church about the dangers of stress, but there’s a deeper root than stress.”



Your Problems Are Not The Root

My friend, when you go through an evil day, you are like a sickly plant with sick leaves. You may have leaves of sickness, poverty, a broken marriage or depression in your life. But these are just the leaves. These are just the manifestations of the root. It would be foolish to attack the leaves because they are not the cause of your problems. We all know that there’ll be no leaf if there is no root.

Even the world knows that and many people in medical science are beginning to realize that there is a root to sickness. In fact, a study by a well-known medical facility showed that about 70 per cent of all sicknesses are due to stress.



Condemnation—The Deepest Root Of All

Now, the deeper root of stress is fear. All stress is caused by fear—fear of failing, fear of not having enough, fear of death and so on. But that’s as far as medical science can go. They cannot touch the deepest root because it is spiritual. And the deepest root of all is condemnation. When there’s condemnation, there’ll be fear. When there’s fear, there’s going to be stress. And when there’s stress, there’ll be manifestations of the curse.

Now, if you disagree with me that the root cause is condemnation, let me refer you to Genesis, the book of beginnings.

Do you know that Adam was planted in the midst of a finished work? Everything was prepared for him. But the devil told him that he needed to do something to qualify for all the things he had already qualified for. The devil gave him a mistaken identity. He said, “You will not surely die. For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” (Genesis 3:4–5)

The truth is that Adam was already like God! But Adam believed the devil, ate the fruit and fell. And the curse came.

Before there was poverty, sickness and death in Adam’s life, there was stress. How do we know that? Well, God said, “In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread…” (Genesis 3:19) And sweat speaks of stress and self-effort.

But if you go deeper, you will find that there was fear. Do you know what Adam said to God when God asked him where he was? He said, “I heard Your voice in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; and I hid myself.” (Genesis 3:10) Adam was afraid. He was fearful. So the deeper root of stress is fear. But before he was fearful, he felt condemned.



The Law Condemns

Why did Adam feel condemned? It was because he partook of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It was not even the tree of evil or the tree of sin. So what does the tree of the knowledge of good and evil speak of? How did it cause Adam to sin?

My friend, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is a picture of the law because the law gives us the knowledge of good and evil. The Bible says, “…by the law is the knowledge of sin.” (Romans 3:20) Contrary to popular opinion, God did not give the law for man to live by or to make man holy. God gave the law so that we know we’re sinners and we see our need for a Savior.

Now, we know that the law brings about the knowledge of sin. But what happens when you have the knowledge of sin? You will feel condemned. So from now on, when you think of the law, think of condemnation. Don’t think of the law as doing right or not doing wrong because God did not give us the law for that purpose. The law condemns. (2 Corinthians 3:7–9)



The Devil’s Tactics And Weaponry

You might ask, “Pastor Prince, what has the law got to do with my problems?”

My friend, our enemy the devil is smarter than many psychiatrists, psychologists and even many believers. He does not deal with the peripherals and the superficial. Do you know what his first name is? It is not “thief” or “murderer”, even though he steals and murders. His first name is Satan, which is Hebrew for “prosecutor at law” or “accuser”.

Do you know what the role of a prosecutor is in the court of law? He is there to prosecute you and condemn you. He never talks about your good points. He will bring up all the dirty laundry and relentlessly accuse you till you feel condemned.

So the devil’s name tells us that he goes straight to the root of your problems. He doesn’t come to you and say, “Let your business slide” or “Neglect your children”. On the contrary, he comes to say things like, “How can you let the business slide?” or “Call yourself a Christian! Call yourself a good father. You’re a lousy father!” He accuses you till you feel condemned. And he uses the law, which is holy, good and just, to condemn you. That is why condemnation—the root cause of all your problems—is so subtle. That is why condemnation usually goes undetected.

I have realized that the devil hasn’t changed his tactics even with a church like ours where I preach so strongly against condemnation. Do you know why? Because he has no other tactic! He has no other weapon! The devil cannot enforce the curse in your life apart from condemnation. The devil cannot make you sick apart from condemnation. You have to cooperate with him and receive the condemnation first.



God Disarmed The Devil At The Cross

Colossians 2:14–15
having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.

The good news is that God disarmed the devil at the cross. God took his only weapon—the law—and He nailed it to the cross! Yes, God has triumphed over the devil and all his demonic principalities and powers! That’s why I often tell the church that we are not fighting for victory. We are fighting from victory. The victory is already ours through the finished work of Christ at the cross.



The Key To No Condemnation

The fact that you can feel condemned is proof that you have a heart of flesh, not a heart of stone. (Ezekiel 11:19, 36:26) It is proof that you are truly born again. What, then, is the key to getting out of your evil day? What is the key to no condemnation in your life?

Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus.

The only place where you find no condemnation is in Christ Jesus. The word “therefore” connects Romans 8:1 to the previous verses in Romans 7, where Paul talked about how he was condemned by the law that he knew so well.

The reason there is therefore now no condemnation, is that God loved us so much that He gave us His Son Jesus Christ to die for our sins. Jesus came and He was condemned for our sins at the cross. When He hung on the cross, God took all our sins of our entire lives, and He heaped them on Jesus. Then He unleashed the vengeance of His fury against lawlessness and sin on the body of Jesus Christ until Jesus cried, “It is finished!” The reason that you and I experience no condemnation today is that all our sins have been punished and condemned, but in the body of another—in the body of Jesus Christ!



What It Means To Overcome The Devil By The Blood Of The Lamb

Revelation 12:10–11
Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.

Many Christians know that we overcome the devil by the blood of the Lamb. We know that there is power in the blood of Christ. But what is it about Jesus’ blood that makes it so powerful?

Now, what did Jesus say of the blood when He instituted the Lord’s Supper? He said, “For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.” (Matthew 26:28)

The blood is for the forgiveness of sins! The blood is there to ensure that you live in no condemnation! That is what makes it so powerful!

Notice also what is said in verse 10, “…for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.” The devil is called the accuser of the brethren. And he relentlessly accuses God’s people day and night. But the good news is that he has been cast down! He has been defeated! The moment he has no power to accuse, salvation, strength, the kingdom of God and the power of Christ will manifest in your life!



Do Not Respond To The Accuser

Some of you might say, “Pastor Prince, I have no problem with this root. I don’t feel condemned.”

My friend, you will be surprised. Condemnation is very subtle, especially if you are a person who believes in doing what’s right. Continue to do what’s right, but do not respond to the accuser. When you choose not to respond to him, he cannot condemn you. The root cause of all your problems is destroyed, and you will come to the place of no condemnation in your life.

http://www.josephprince.org/daily-grace/articles/single/the-root-cause-of-your-problem-is-condemnation/

menesheh:
they should keep on asking evidences of their faith.

My brother its hard for me to believe that you are an Atheist.... What really happened Plz receive JESUS in your life.

MrPresident:
sin is an offense against a god I do not believe in / who does not exist, if what I do is harmful to others I apologize to them and ask for their forgiveness. If what I do doesn't harm others then to hell with your imaginary invisible middle-east deity.

Oga you dey vex oo lol

starlingslimnet:
Lalasticlala please move this to the FP..... Let the doctrinated Christains learn their sins are forgiven already.
Thanks
EOS

Abi oo.

ABDULADINO:
Ok bro..Bless you. I rest my case too..I guess it is difficult to convince skeptics. It is like convincing cessationist that the gift of tongues is still relevant today. I get you.

Alright

vooks:
You make God a liar for denying the very words of our savior. I really pity the deluded who think after a historical confession, imagine their eternity is sealed regardless of how they live.
Jesus will spit you out of your mouth, he will blot you out of the book of life, and worse, He will tell you to depart from him on the llast day.
Salvation is simply new life conditional on your faith. You drop your faith and you die again. Be warned.
I don't want to be comforted by false hopes

It is you that Jesus will spit out of his mouth!!!! You this deluded self righteous Pharisee!!!! What gives u the right to know who will make Heaven or not?? Look lemme tell you, if not for the GRACE of God, this your self righteousness ( which is a filthy rag before God ) will not take you anywhere. It is written in the Bible that Salvation is by Grace through faith, and it is the work of God lest any man should boast.

I pity you, so you think that The death of CHRIST on the Cross is not enough so you can add your filthy Self Righteousness to make up for your Salvation? God calls it PRIDE!!!! Abraham was counted as a man of righteousness because of his FAITH in God alone, not by his WORKS.

If you are not comforted by Eternal Security, plz go ahead with your WORKS but don't try to deceive other people into it. That's why your kind live depressed lives full of condemnation and guilt , that is your own wahala. I have comfort that my righteousness is the righteousness of CHRIST by FAITH. Nobody can snatch me out of the hand of the father & son, not you or your Religious / Judaism doctrine......

You can argue with the Birds, i am through with you. And please don't quote me AGAIN!!!!!

@ABDULADINO, my brother u get time to still dey argue with these people? They will never agree with you, so don't bother. Since you have known the Truth, don't bother yourself with dem. My happiness is that they are Believers, so they will make Heaven on the last day. But since they believe its their WORKS dat saves them until Rapture, so be it Don't stress yourself. They will understand later.

If its by WORKS that we are SAVED or that we can lose our Salvation after being SAVED, then mankind will be doomed cos nobody will make it. It is by the GRACE of God through faith. God chose us the elect from Eternity past and it is Him dat preserves us till the end. It will be hard for Human Comprehension but everything will be clear when we cross over to Eternity.

God promised us Eternal life through salvation and for that Eternal life to be lost will make God a liar, which is not possible. So a Believer can never lose His Salvation.

I now declare this thread closed.....

Question: "Do Christians have to keep asking for
forgiveness for their sins?"

Answer: A frequent question is “what happens if I
sin, and then I die before I have an opportunity to
confess that sin to God?” Another common question
is “what happens if I commit a sin, but then forget
about it and never remember to confess it to God?”
Both of these questions rest on a faulty
assumption. Salvation is not a matter of believers
trying to confess and repent from every sin they
commit before they die. Salvation is not based on
whether a Christian has confessed and repented of
every sin. Yes, we should confess our sins to God
as soon as we are aware that we have sinned.
However, we do not always need to be asking God
for forgiveness. When we place our faith in Jesus
Christ for salvation, all of our sins are forgiven.
That includes past, present, and future, big or
small. Believers do not have to keep asking for
forgiveness or repenting in order to have their sins
forgiven. Jesus died to pay the penalty for all of our
sins, and when they are forgiven, they are all
forgiven ( Colossians 1:14 ; Acts 10:43 ).


What we are to do is confess our sins: “If we
confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will
forgive us our sins and purify us from all
unrighteousness” ( 1 John 1:9 ). What this verse tells
us to do is “confess” our sins to God. The word
“confess” means “to agree with.” When we confess
our sins to God, we are agreeing with God that we
were wrong, that we have sinned. God forgives us,
through confession, on an ongoing basis because
of the fact that He is “faithful and just.” How is God
“faithful and just”? He is faithful by forgiving sins,
which He has promised to do for all those who
receive Christ as Savior. He is just by applying
Christ’s payment for our sins, recognizing that the
sins have indeed been atoned for.


At the same time, 1 John 1:9 does indicate that
somehow forgiveness is dependent on our
confessing our sins to God. How does this work if
all of our sins are forgiven the moment we receive
Christ as Savior? It seems that what the apostle
John is describing here is “relational” forgiveness.
All of our sins are forgiven “positionally” the
moment we receive Christ as Savior. This positional
forgiveness guarantees our salvation and promise
of an eternal home in heaven. When we stand
before God after death, God will not deny us
entrance into heaven because of our sins. That is
positional forgiveness. The concept of relational
forgiveness is based on the fact that when we sin,
we offend God and grieve His Spirit (Ephesians
4:30 ). While God has ultimately forgiven us of the
sins we commit, they still result in a blocking or
hindrance in our relationship with God. A young boy
who sins against his father is not cast out of the
family. A godly father will forgive his children
unconditionally. At the same time, a good
relationship between father and son cannot be
achieved until the relationship is restored. This can
only occur when a child confesses his mistakes to
his father and apologizes. That is why we confess
our sins to God—not to maintain our salvation, but
to bring ourselves back into close fellowship with
the God who loves us and has already forgiven us.

http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-sin.html

Question = "How can I be ready to be caught up in
the Rapture?"


Answer = It is much simpler than you may think. The
short answer is that you must receive Jesus Christ
as your Savior. Now for the long answer. When you
ask this question, we assume that you have heard
that not all Christians will be taken when the
Rapture occurs. You probably have been told that
only "super Christians" who are living a holy life will
be raptured, and all the other Christians will have to
suffer through the Tribulation. This is not true, and
we will show you why this is not true from
Scripture.


The first thing that you must understand is the
purpose for the Tribulation. The Tribulation is a
time of judgment on the earth and punishment for
Israel. Please note that Israel and the Church are
not the same group of people. The Church is a
spiritual organism. People in the Church are related
because of their spiritual birth (by being born again
- John 3:3 ). The people of Israel (Jews) are related
by blood. This is a race of people to whom God
made special promises in the Old Testament. God
declared a time of judgment upon Israel for their
unfaithfulness. This time of judgment is clearly
declared to be only for Israel (Daniel 9:24-27 ).
Gabriel brought a message from God to Daniel
(9:20-21). Daniel 9:24 says, "Seventy weeks have
been decreed for your people and your holy city, to
finish the transgression, to make an end of sin, to
make atonement for iniquity, to bring in everlasting
righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy, and
to anoint the most holy place." In this message
Gabriel specifies to Daniel that the time is "for your
people." Daniel's people were Jews, the nation of
Israel. God declared 70 weeks against the nation of
Israel. This “70 weeks” is literally in the Hebrew “70
sevens.” In other words, 70 times 7 years, or 490
years. Of those years, 483 (69 times 7) of them
were fulfilled from the end of Israel's captivity in
Babylon to the cutting off of Messiah (the
crucifixion of Christ). This leaves 7 years of
judgment yet to be fulfilled. Those 7 years are the
years of the Tribulation. The point is that this
prophecy concerns Israel primarily, and the purpose
of the judgment is "to finish the transgression, to
make an end of sin, to make atonement for iniquity,
to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up
vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most holy
place."


Now, we can also demonstrate from Scripture that
Christians will not be in the Tribulation. A study of 1
Thessalonians 4:13 through 5:9 shows this. In this
passage Paul writes about the Rapture and the Day
of the Lord. First Thessalonians 5:9 gives Christians
this promise: "God has not destined us for wrath,
but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus
Christ." Pay close attention to this verse. Paul says
God has not destined us for wrath, specifically the
wrath of the Day of the Lord (5:2).


Further evidence that Christians will not go through
the Tribulation comes from 1 Corinthians. In that
letter Paul sharply rebukes the believers for being
carnal Christians. But in chapter 15, Paul writes of
the Rapture, and he never indicates that any of the
Corinthian believers, carnal though they were, would
be left behind. True believers in Jesus Christ will
not have to endure the Tribulation.

N.B

Also Apostle Paul that wrote to the Christians in Thessalonica in 1st Thessalonians 4:13-18 by the leading of the Holy Spirit did not say any Christian will be left behind..... instead the criteria for Rapture is for the Christians dat are ALIVE AND REMAINING at the time of Rapture!! The Holy Spirit through Apostle Paul did not discriminate against any Christian during Rapture. It is for ALL BELIEVERS IN CHRIST!!!!!

1 Thessalonians 4:13
But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him
.
4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.


The only way you will be left behind in the Rapture
is if you have not received Christ as your Savior.

http://www.gotquestions.org/left-behind-rapture.html

Question: "What are the heavenly crowns that
believers can receive in Heaven?"


Answer: There are five heavenly crowns mentioned
in the New Testament that will be awarded to
believers. They are the imperishable crown, the
crown of rejoicing, the crown of righteousness, the
crown of glory, and the crown of life. The Greek
word translated “crown” is stephanos (the source
for the name Stephen the martyr) and means “a
badge of royalty, a prize in the public games or a
symbol of honor generally.” Used during the ancient
Greek games, it referred to a wreath or garland of
leaves placed on a victor’s head as a reward for
winning an athletic contest. As such, this word is
used figuratively in the New Testament of the
rewards of heaven God promises those who are
faithful. Paul’s passage in 1 Corinthians 9:24-25
best defines for us how these crowns are awarded.


1) The Imperishable Crown – (1 Corinthians
9:24-25 ) “Do you not know that those who run in a
race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such
a way that you may obtain it. And everyone who
competes for the prize is temperate [disciplined] in
all things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable
crown, but we for an imperishable crown” (NKJV).
All things on this earth are subject to decay and will
perish. Jesus urges us to not store our treasures on
earth “where moth and rust destroy, and where
thieves break in and steal” ( Matthew 6:19 ). This is
analogous to what Paul was saying about that
wreath of leaves that was soon to turn brittle and
fall apart. But not so the heavenly crown; faithful
endurance wins a heavenly reward which is “an
inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that
does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you” (1
Peter 1:3-5 ).


2) The Crown of Rejoicing – (1 Thessalonians 2:19 )
“For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing?
Is it not even you in the presence of our Lord Jesus
Christ at His coming?” The apostle Paul tells us in
Philippians 4:4 to “rejoice always in the Lord” for all
the bountiful blessings our gracious God has
showered upon us. As Christians we have more in
this life to rejoice about than anyone else. Luke tells
us there is rejoicing even now in heaven (Luke
15:7 ). The crown of rejoicing will be our reward
where “God will wipe away every tear . . . there
shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying.
There shall be no more pain, for the former things
have passed away” ( Revelation 21:4 ).


3) The Crown of Righteousness – (2 Timothy 4:8 )
“Finally, there is laid up for me the crown of
righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge,
will give to me on that Day, and not to me only but
also to all who have loved His appearing.” We
inherit this crown through the righteousness of
Christ which is what gives us a right to it, and
without which it cannot be obtained. Because it is
obtained and possessed in a righteous way, and not
by force and deceit as earthly crowns sometimes
are, it is an everlasting crown, promised to all who
love the Lord and eagerly wait for His return.
Through our enduring the discouragements,
persecutions, sufferings, or even death, we know
assuredly our reward is with Christ in eternity
(Philippians 3:20 ). This crown is not for those who
depend upon their own sense of righteousness or of
their own works. Such an attitude breeds only
arrogance and pride, not a longing, a fervent desire
to be with the Lord.


4) The Crown of Glory – (1 Peter 5:4 ) “And when
the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the
crown of glory that does not fade away.” Though
Peter is addressing the elders, we must also
remember that the crown will be awarded to all
those who long for or love His appearing. This word
“glory” is an interesting word referring to the very
nature of God and His actions. It entails His great
splendor and brightness. Recall Stephen who, while
being stoned to death, was able to look into the
heavens and see the glory of God (Acts 7:55-56 ).
This word also means that the praise and honor we
bestow to God alone is due Him because of who He
is (Isaiah 42:8 , 48:11 ; Galatians 1:5 ). It also
recognizes that believers are incredibly blessed to
enter into the kingdom, into the very likeness of
Christ Himself. For as Paul so eloquently put it, “For
I consider that the sufferings of this present time
are not worthy to be compared with the glory which
shall be revealed in us” ( Romans 8:18 NKJV ).


5) The Crown of Life – (Revelation 2:10 ) “Do not
fear any of those things which you are about to
suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of
you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will
have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and
I will give you the crown of life.” This crown is for
all believers, but is especially dear to those who
endure sufferings, who bravely confront
persecution for Jesus, even to the point of death. In
Scripture the word “life” is often used to show a
relationship that is right with God. It was Jesus who
said, “I have come that they may have life and that
they may have it more abundantly” (John 10:10 ).
Just as things such as air, food, and water are vital
for our physical lives, Jesus provides us what is
required for our spiritual lives. He is the One who
provides “living water.” He is the “bread of
life” ( John 4:10 , 6:35 ). We know that our earthly
lives will end. But we have the amazing promise
that comes only to those who come to God through
Jesus: “And this is the promise that He has
promised us—eternal life” (1 John 2:25 ).


James tells us that this crown of life is for all those
who love God ( James 1:12 ). The question then is
how do we demonstrate our love for God? The
apostle John answers this for us: “For this is the
love of God, that we keep His commandments. And
His commandments are not burdensome” (1 John
5:3 ). As His children we must keep His
commandments, obeying Him, always remaining
faithful. So, as we endure the inevitable trials,
pains, heartaches, and tribulations—as long as we
live—may we ever move forward, always “looking
unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our
faith” (Hebrews 12:2 ) and receive the crown of life
that awaits us.

http://www.gotquestions.org/heavenly-crowns.html

Saw dis article.......


Question: "What is the Judgment Seat of Christ /
Bema Seat of Christ?"

Answer: Romans 14:10-12 says, “For we will all
stand before God’s judgment seat…so then, each of
us will give an account of himself to God.” Second
Corinthians 5:10 tells us, “For we must all appear
before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one
may receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.” In the
context, it is clear that both scriptures are referring
to Christians, not unbelievers. The judgment seat of
Christ, therefore, involves believers giving an
account of their lives to Christ. The judgment seat
of Christ does not determine salvation; that was
determined by Christ’s sacrifice on our behalf ( 1
John 2:2 ) and our faith in Him (John 3:16 ). All of
our sins are forgiven, and we will never be
condemned for them ( Romans 8:1 ). We should not
look at the judgment seat of Christ as God judging
our sins, but rather as God rewarding us for our
lives. Yes, as the Bible says, we will have to give an
account of ourselves. Part of this is surely
answering for the sins we committed. However,
that is not going to be the primary focus of the
judgment seat of Christ.

At the judgment seat of Christ, believers are
rewarded based on how faithfully they served Christ
(1 Corinthians 9:4-27 ; 2 Timothy 2:5 ). Some of the
things we might be judged on are how well we
obeyed the Great Commission ( Matthew 28:18-20 ),
how victorious we were over sin ( Romans 6:1-4 ),
and how well we controlled our tongues ( James
3:1-9 ). The Bible speaks of believers receiving
crowns for different things based on how faithfully
they served Christ (1 Corinthians 9:4-27 ; 2 Timothy
2:5 ). The various crowns are described in 2 Timothy
2:5 , 2 Timothy 4:8 , James 1:12 , 1 Peter 5:4 , and
Revelation 2:10 . James 1:12 is a good summary of
how we should think about the judgment seat of
Christ: “Blessed is the man who perseveres under
trial, because when he has stood the test, he will
receive the crown of life that God has promised to
those who love him.”

http://www.gotquestions.org/judgment-seat-Christ.html

IamChuks:
hmm

There's no need for hmmmm my broda... this is just the Truth... By the revelation of the Holy Spirit, so many hidden truths have been uncovered in the Bible.... We are in the age of TRUTH,which is also the age of GRACE which means UNMERITED FAVOUR...

It must be very hard for you to understand cos our Pastors have brainwashed so many Christians mixing the message of GRACE with the Law... But dat is not the TRUE GOSPEL of CHRIST....

Many Believers today are always chanting this sentence... "Narrow is the way to eternal life ".... actually it is what Jesus said in the Bible.... But most Believers read and understand it out of CONTEXT.... Lemme explain....

When Jesus made this statement, he was addressing the Jews and His disciples in Israel at that time, they were practicing Judaism. And to say u believe in Jesus and His teaching during that time is like BLASPHEMY, cos your parents and the community will ostracize and disown you. You will be like an outcast. So that was why Jesus made that statement to them, that if you must follow Him, you have to abandon your family and everything cos the way to Eternal Life then is difficult.

Fast-forward it to present day, After the death of CHRIST and His RESURRECTION, it is now easy to be saved than to be lost because what CHRIST did on the cross of Calvary overpaid for our Sins ( Past, Present & Future ). All you need to do is to believe in Christ Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, trusting His Death, Burial & Resurrection as your only means of Salvation.

So Believers, that statement THE WAY TO ETERNAL LIFE IS NARROW doesn't apply to Believers today, Jesus was talking to the Jews that want to follow him during His time.

So brethren, it very easy to be saved today than to be lost. CHRISTIANITY is not a RELIGION, it is about JESUS CHRIST and His finished Work on the Cross. We are a Blessed generation all because of what happened at the Cross!! Thank you Lord Jesus!!

Are we still on this? Nawa oo....

Ok lemme say dis... SALVATION once gained can never be lost. You don't lose your Salvation because you sin.... Datz why Paul still addressed the Church of Corinth ( the most carnal church ) as the bride of CHRIST.

There are different levels of commitment among Believers... We have mature and baby Christians. A carnal Christian doesn't lose his Salvation cos he sin. Our Salvation is eternal, its sealed by the Holy Spirit until Rapture. It is only lost by denouncing CHRIST which is impossible, its very rare. Some Christians might not be as committed as they were before, but that doesn't mean they have lost faith in CHRIST. Some people might say these Christians have back-slidden but their faith in CHRIST is still there.

@An2elect2 , my sister i think you don't have to argue with @Vook again. Two of you will never agree. You are a GRACE Believer like me and he is a WORKS believer. If he believes its his Works dat saves him, all well and good. Let Him keep to his belief. On the last day He will know the Truth. GRACE is the person of Jesus.

What is the meaning of GRACE? UNMERITED FAVOUR...

Plz lets stop this argument..... the WORKS Believers will never accept our message of GRACE... and we cant accept theirs too.

sportsmaster:
ayoku777 was saying the same thing,you guys did not read and understand each others texts.

yes datz true.

ayoku777:
Spot on bro!
Nawa o! So you mean we've spent 5 pages arguing over semantics, when we've actually being saying the same thing?
That's what "departing from the faith" means. You are saved and justified by faith in Christ; and you lose it if you depart from faith in Christ.
What you are calling "denouncing Christ", I am using the scriptural term "departing from the faith". But we mean the same thing.
You don't lose your salvation to sin or carnality. Even a carnal christian is still in Christ. That's why they are called "babes IN CHRIST" (1Cor 3v1). We only lose salvation to unbelief, to "departing from the faith".
You didn't really articulated your stand well at the beginning; that's why. Because we obviously are saying the same thing.
Shalom!

Alright.... i now understand you... At the beginning, i thought u were arguing dat the only way Salvation can be maintained is by works. I guess we misunderstood each other. Take care.

sportsmaster:
my final quote.
John5:24:-Verily,verily,I say unto you,He that hears my Word and believes on him that sent me,hath everlasting life,and SHALL NOT COME INTO CONDEMNATION;but is passed from death to life.
John10:28"And i give unto them eternal life;and they shall never perish,neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."
29My father which gave them to me is greater than all;no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
what is Jesus saying here?.
I want answers
Cc vooks,scholar8200,jiggaz,ayoku777.

Jesus was saying that once you are saved, you can never be unsaved. A Believer in CHRIST doesn't lose his Salvation because he sins.... The only way Salvation can be lost is if the person denounces CHRIST which is rare....

Mondayaustin81:
D end wil tel

read the article...

Lasgidi:
They that be like little children!!

No... read the article...

I saw dis interesting article in a blog and i decided to share it.....


Question: "Who will occupy the Millennial
Kingdom?"


Answer: There will be two distinct groups occupying
the Earth during the millennial kingdom—those with
glorified bodies, and those with earthly bodies who
lived through the tribulation and on into the
millennial kingdom. Those with glorified bodies
consist of the Church, receiving glorified bodies at
the rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 ; 1 Corinthians
15:21-23 , 51-53 ), and those who are resurrected
after Christ returns to Earth (Revelation 20:4-6 ).
Those who have earthly bodies can be subdivided
into two groups: believing Gentiles and believing
Jews (Israel).

In Revelation 19:11-16 , we find the return of Jesus
Christ to Earth, known as His second coming. The
rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 ; 1 Corinthians
15:51-53 ) is an appearing of Christ in the air, not
His second coming. I mention this to make a
distinction between the rapture and the second
coming of Christ. There is no mention in Revelation
19-20 of any kind of rapture event. The implication
is that saints who are on Earth when Christ returns
will remain on Earth to enter the millennial kingdom
in their natural bodies. If the rapture or any kind of
event where a living believer receives a glorified
body were included in the second coming of Christ
to Earth, one would expect to find reference to such
a major event in Revelation 19 . But no such
reference is to be found. The only event that results
in believers receiving glorified bodies is found in
Revelation 20:4-6 where those who became
believers during the Tribulation and were killed
because of their faith are resurrected. It is also
believed that at this same time Old Testament
saints will be resurrected, also receiving glorified
bodies (see Daniel 12:2 ).

Matthew 25:31-46 is another passage that should
be considered. This passage is commonly called
the separation or judgment of the sheep and the
goats. The sheep and goats refer to righteous and
unrighteous Gentiles. Christ will judge the
unrighteous Gentiles (goats), and they will be cast
into the lake of fire for eternal punishment ( Matthew
25:46 ). Therefore, no unbelieving Gentile will
survive to live on into the millennial kingdom. The
righteous Gentiles, or sheep, will live on into the
millennial kingdom. They will give birth to children
and will populate the Earth. However, these are not
the only ones who will be producing children during
the millennial kingdom.

The impression is given that when Christ returns, all
Israel will trust in Him ( Zechariah 12:10 ). They, too,
will not receive glorified bodies (as did those who
were raptured prior to the tribulation and those
resurrected afterward). They also will produce
children during the millennial kingdom.

So, believing Gentiles, Israel, and resurrected/
raptured believers (all of whom have glorified
bodies) will occupy the Earth. It should be noted,
however, that believers with glorified bodies will not
be reproducing. There is no marriage after this life
( Matthew 22:30 ).

Children born during the millennial kingdom will
have the responsibility of faith in Christ as all
people of past ages have (faith in Christ since His
coming; faith in God before— Genesis 15:2-6 ;
Habakkuk 2:4 ; Romans 3:20 ). Unfortunately, not all
of the children that are born during the millennial
kingdom will come to faith in Christ. Those that do
not will be led away by Satan into rebellion against
God at the end of the millennial kingdom when
Satan is let loose for a short time (Revelation
20:7-10 ).

http://www.gotquestions.org/millennial-kingdom.html