mostob: I think kelechi is poor mainly because he has never played with a true playmaker.If someone like Iwobi plays behind him,he might get those true passes he needed and it won't be a problem to finish off those chances since he is clinical.
exactly, him and iwobi their statistics doesn't look good, if the clubs get a player who can do more then I'm afraid they may have to spend time on the bench
Please can we now agree that Jesus is a shitty player, iheanacho did and will do better in this City team, Jesus has only one epl goal this season. I remember when he first joined the way people here hyped him like he's some sort of Pele reincarnate.
komekn: What you are suggesting by comparison is that if Unai was Chukwueze manager he would be playing first team in Monaco or anywhere else Unai is a Manager.
If that's the case, why didn't Unai immediately call Reise Nelson into the first team. An 18 year old winger who has played 9 games in the Bundesliga for Hoffenhiem and scored 6 goals this season.
So that comparison draws no water.
so he should go and drag him from BuLi to come and start benching Laca and/or Auba? Why did you call Nelson sef, did you not see him giving 18years old Emile Rowe Smith chances? Or 19years old Guendozi who was initially bought for the future who's sealed a spot in the first team? Bros take your time o, be objective and not biase
mostob: Both of the players you mentioned above didn't play in farmer's league . Sanchez ' main problem is indiscipline, he was a classy MF. Isco is still a decent player.
SMH, BuLi isn't a farmer's league, but Ligue one is, see you no just get point the Mbappe is very good no downplay his talent, he's deserved every accolade coming his way
mostob: Apart from Ighalo,we have success and osimhen putting in stellar performances every week..even Odey sef no carry last.. and somebody still want one abracadabra ..sorry ..Abraham . na wa o
please which success? He has just one epl goal this season abi
wow, teams are really catching up to us, we have just two reps unlike before where we could have as much as 6 or 7. NFF needs to take female football serious the falcons have the potential to be one of the best in the world.
Hi safarigirl, do you know any platform where I can watch latest blockbuster Nigerian movies eg king of boys, I currently don't stay in Nigeria so I can't watch it at the cinema. Thanks
TheGoodJoe: I hope you know that Fabregas was not in the academy for upto two months before breaking into the first team. I do not think we can categorise that as academy football. He was ready but needed to learn the language and adapt to his new surroundings.
I'm curious, from Sowore to fela now back to Sowore
komekn: I personally think in terms of speed, athleticism and presence very few can match him. However, I still think he is not as good technically as I would like. It may be I've not seen that aspect of his game because, it has not been required.
Dominic Iorfa Father contested the Presidency of the NFF and did call a spade a spade not very diplomatic. That's is he exposed the depth of vote buying. He should have kept quite that's how things are done here if you don't like it dont compete. That left some people to get angry with him.
There is a hard core NFF element but small that dissuaded Rohr not to invite Dominic. That's my totally unsubstantiated view that is birthed from my perception and limited observation. I have zero evidence to support it just my emotive view.
Just the same way I know corrupt politicians and police but have no evidence to prove it.
please don't bring that Iorfa snr contested NFF elections, how many centuries ago be that? Abeg make Iorfa jnr go find club first and perform moderately, you'll see that he'll be invited to the super eagles
komekn: I am automatically indignant when , FAIR-PLAY, TRANSPARENCY, OBJECTIVITY and a MERIT are put aside against FAVOURITISM and SUBJECTIVE PRESUMPTION.
What makes a player quality is consistency of top quality and or continuous above average performances and that component consistency, is intrinsically linked to time, you can not have one without the other.
Ajayi is 25, from the 2012 /2013 season until 2015 he never kicked a ball in senior first team league football that is near three years. He never played one game for Arsenal, Charlton or Cardiff, his first professional league game came at AFC Wimbledon in the 2015/16 in league two. However, despite not playing any first team football he was in the U20 Nigerian team in 2013. In 2016/17 he made it to the Championship with Rotherham playing about 17 games. 2017/18 they were relegated and Ajayi played that season in League one. Bring things up to date they got promoted and he is in the Championship 2018/19, he got MOTM award against Stoke, he is improving at 25 he is like many other players a late developer. How far can he go , time will tell.
Dominic Iorfa is 23, started playing as a teenager in 2013/14 season on loan to Shrewsbury in League one. From 2014/15, 2015/16, 2016/17 he played near 100 games for wolves , winning best young player, MOTM. Playing for England youth teams and invited to train with the first team of England. He was an established player in Wolves numerous offers from EPL sides rejected in now we know misplaced loyalty.
Before the summer of 2017 he made clear commitment to the SE he even had a positive meeting with Rohr to this effect, he was at his peak, everything was going well. He was waiting for the official call up that never materialised to date.
He brought in a new manager Nuno Santos, and he systematically began to dispose of players not within the business model. Wolves currently has more Portuguese players than Benfica and Porto. That should tell you something. Dominic arrived 2017//18 before he had kicked a ball he was frozen out no explanation. Very hurriedly had to find another club hence Ipswich Town, early 2018 he got injured so for the 2017/18 season he played about 24 games.
2018/19, things have gone so bad in a totally unprecedented move never seen before unflavoured first team players were not allowed to train with the first or the U23. However, Dominic has now been allowed back in but only with the U23.
Strikers can have dry patches and are deemed to loose form. However, defenders are not prone to loosing form so dramatically. You cant have played football as defender played consistently at a top performing and with continuous improvement then all of a sudden you are bad or not good enough. This is not a football decision but one based on the politics of football business.
Sakho was left out of the Liverpool Squad after disputes with Klopp and didn't play for quite a few months before he went to Palace and immediately changed their season. His pedigree didn't change or quality drop just the opportunity to play at Liverpool. I see similarities with Iorfa that is not a double standard.
Now the question is double standard and hypocrisy.
Ajayi has played 35 games in the championship over two seasons not consecutive and is two years older largely been anonymous compared to Dominic who has played 110 games in the Championship over four consecutive seasons that is long term top level consistency. Consistency that has seen him playing for England at all youth levels.
So who is better , on paper and statistically there is no debateBut that's not the most pertinent question in reality, but rather why is one been DENIED OPPORTUNITY and who is more DESERVING of OPPORTUNITY We will not know how good he is until he is given OPPORTUNITY, competition creates quality it doesn't diminish it. I remember Danny Shittu blatantly denied opportunity at Bolton for two seasons , leaves and was voted best Defender in the Championship he was also exceptional for Nigeria.
Now you should look in the mirror, the finger you pointed has many more fingers pointing back at you, one of them is called bigotry.
Dont presume to know what any man is thinking it is birthed out of conceit. This talk about Iorfa started well before anybody knew the name Ajayi. It started in comparison to the German trio of defenders not interested in playing for Nigeria but Rohr still keeps requesting for. At the same time as ignoring Dominic.
Oga forget all this your long story, bottom line is tell your boy to sort out his club form/future first Semilogo Ajayi has been very active and key for his club this season so his call to the super eagles is justified without any doubt. and please quit this mendes this Mendes that, if your boy is good enough he'll force the coach hands, do you want to tell me all the players on the books of wolves are contracted under agent Mendes? besides why did Ipswich not make his loan deal permanent or extend the loan for another season? abeg go help am sort his club status first before thinking of the super eagles
TheSuperNerd: Paraguay Vs SA reminds me of the WC game they had in 2002 I think. Or was it 2002? I think it was 2002 shaa.
Brazil vs Cameroun... Ahhh... I wish Seedorf and his boys the best oooo... Make Neymar and Co no spell Cameroun abeg.
And yes, we have played the Germans before in a friendly. Can't exactly remember the year but we lost 1-0.
@ South Africa vs Paraguay during the 2002 world cup, the match ended either 1-0 in favor of South Africa or 1-1 I sha know Nomvethe scored off a corner kick, and Nigeria vs Germany was 1997/1998 in preparation for the 1998 World Cup that was my first time of watching Ike Shorunmu and he made lots of saves
Lol.... And he didn't even start off in defence? Na wa ooo... Imagining Ezenwa as a midfielder is funny to me walahi...Lol it's good if he wants to further his career. Footwork is an ish among all 4 goalies we have. At least he isn't gonna play Vs Uganda. The guy dey see cash though. He is happier than Agbim was then. lol.
Ederson too has done the midfield stuff before now.
Abeg where Echiejile dey play ball these days? cc tbaba 1234
Mickael2: I know of that, but back then none of the critics could say his team's performance was bad, that match against Algeria happens, that was in 91, I said 93 which is the period I vaguely know of, in that 94 Afcon I remember asking my dad why it was only Nigeria that was passing the ball, I can't remember against which team exactly, such was the dominance and it started from late 92/early 93. Back then the media was against Westerhof not exactly 'every nigerian' like you put it, I know atleast all my elder siblings respect him totally, the media started that war against Westerhof probably because of some personal interest which I do not know, but that isn't even my point. Westerhof took a bunch of guys and had them playing so well that people started saying that any coach could perform wonders with those players, same thing people said about Pep in Barca until Tito and then Tata took over. But in Rohr's case, he has taken a young, talented team backwards, if we are at least performing well but the results aren't coming I may say ok, but bar the match away to Zambia and against Cameroon we haven't seen any extraordinary performance. Bottomline? Westerhof's team was so dominant that people thought anybody could do same with the set of players he had, Rohr's team is so bad that people are wondering if we wouldn't be better off with another person despite the results. Please and please, Rohr's case and that of Westerhof isn't related.
backwards you say? after the shambles African Guardiola did? you can say stagnant which is debatable not backwards
Curtisaxel7: It baffles me Sir. You were just robbed of not one but TWO clean goals in a match and all you could do is to smile like a he-goat and drool over opposition players afterwards. Not even a word of protest to draw the attention of the authorities to the grave injustice done to you.
Why won't people think you sold the match?
not all coaches like whining about officiating, Pep is an example
Joebie: And what will the new players be doing? Sitting on the bench? Coming in late? Failing to hold possession with neat interchange of passes? What will Rohr do differently with new players?
OK, so y'all clamoring for #Rohrout# who do you have in mind as replacement? a coach you know the NFF can afford o, abi you want a local coach to takeover?
TheGoodJoe: The South Africans were the better side both tactically and creatively even though his side had less quality. I think you are downplaying his importance to the team.
funny thing is, if you told South Africans you want to exchange coaches they won't think twice before jumping at the offer
TheGoodJoe: Baxter would definitely have us playing better if he had our team and Rohr would definitely not get the South Africans playing as good as they did today with his kind of tactics.
they may not okay sleek, but will be effective. the eagles have not been easy on the eye but we must admit we've been effective
I hope caf plan to use VAR at next year's nations cup, we had two legitimate goals ruled out for offside. such a shame we couldn't make South Africa pay for their defensive highline
TheSuperNerd: Like Dutch Football, Like Nigerian Football: Akin moments
Just a moment away from the #RSANGA tie, I just wanna give recognition to the comeback of Dutch soccer. They dominated a lethargic and Pogba-less French team and that young midfield New generation Franz Beckanbeaur called Frenkie De Jong was My MOTM. What a complete midfield dominance. The lad is quick, can defend, can attack, can create... He can do everything in midfield and he is just 21. Not that I am surprised as I have been following the lad for well over a year plus but I haven't exactly given him much mention because this is the Super Eagles thread.
I remember a discussion on here on whether Dutch football is gonna come back to its Glory days. Well, today was the answer. I recall stating that it is only a matter of time before the Orange Gang of Holland make a roaring comeback with the talent pool they boast of right now in defence and Midfield especially and also in attack. Patience is key in all things and we can see how The Dutch are rising again so powerfully amd beautifully. This is akin to what Nigerian football is currently experiencing now. Like the dutch over a year ago, we are also in a metamorphosis and hopefully by the time of Afcon 2019 next year, we would see a more imposing and more powerful and beautiful playing Super Eagles.
Dutch football has been on a rise for a while now recently and the win against France a few hours ago have further sealed their comeback. Would be exciting seeing this Dutch team at Euros 2020. Welcome back Die Oranje!!!
And this lad called Frenkie De Jong... Mark my words, he will be a top world class midfielder within the next one to two years. He is that good.... I fell in love with his style early last year. He is the new generation Franz Beckanbeaur. A midfielder but also a lad who brought back the libero role when played in Central defence at certain times for Ajax last season... He is another super star on the rise. Man City or Barca will suit him nicely.... Arsenal too but I don't see Arsenal landing him.
Kudos Frenkie.... Making football even more beautiful to watch. Carry on the good work lad....
the real man behind their resurgence is Ronald Koeman, after the clowns call Gus Hiddink and Daley Blind Snr he's been a breathe of fresh air
Chaaaiiii... Oooooohhh Marvelous one... Why??!!! Why hast thou awakened these sweet memories that gives me mixed feelings... On one hand, I smile at the memories... But on the other, it makes me weep at the state of Yahaya's current progress.
Iwobi for say, "Bia Musa II, wey you learn your own ball sef? You Sabi oooo... I swear down!"
Modified:
Lemme drop the pass here for posterity sake... Ohhh Musa Yahaya... Such talents!!! Heavens!
The pass for the assist and the goal is seen at 0:24 - 0:29secs secs of the video. Gabby Jesus do us strong thing that day too shaa... Bad pikin. Lol...
can't forget this game, tho we were leading 2-0 but we were struggling to create chances until osaze came in to change the game. he was the revelation of 2004 nations cup
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 11:52am On Dec 11, 2018
