komekn: I remember Traore when he was at Chelsea he got capped by Burkina at about 16. He made the right moves going to Ajax now at Lyon teaching Everton how to play football.
Solanke didnt do a lot in the Eredivisie but he tore up the script at the U20 world cup.
Yes the jury is still out but he is looking very sharp for Liverpool, early days let's see.
I saw Solanke at the u20 world cup, nothing special keep in mind a certain Adiya won golden ball at the 2009 edition and today not sure even heart of oak will include him in their B team. not trying to rubbish him o but then trying to hype him like he's some Aguero no be am he could improve and be a world beater or could go the way of them Francis Jeffers
Mickael2: 2011 was six years ago, these 14year olds are probably recent guys. Even Awoniyi who was very brilliant(yes I knew his cousin) graduated when he was 17, 14 was impossible back then
If they truly watched him at the U-17 WC, they won't come up with such ridiculous claims.
They talk as if they grew up together.
Nacho is one of the boys I believe his age.
I'm shocked too, we all saw them at 2013 and we all attested to the fact that they were truly young, now people are saying nonsense about their age, all these oyinbo boys playing the current u-17 if they were Nigerians people will doubt their ages most of them don get bear bear finish
Mickael2: and you think they just said 'Hey Muller, Bastian, Gomez come let's go this world cup and you are in the first eleven'.
You forget that even in the German team Bastian would have warmed the bench at the 2010 world cup if not for Ballack's injury, how old was Balack? Their strikers had to sit on the bench for Podolski and Klose, how old were they? Your first world cup iusually a learning process, even Messi was a bench warmer in his first world cup. This is how developed nations function and they have been ever so successful
lol continue poldoski was just 25 then and klose 32, he was not 35 playing in China or Indonesia he was playing with Bayern then
Humility017: this is what you like....you've meet your twin brother.... I think oga michael took the criticism too far though... I am not just too comfortable wit rohr conservative approach... ...had it been he gets to start aina against Zambian...just imagine how many passes of that kind he flipped to Moses....our frontline would have enjoyed...
elderson with all due respect, nothing personal....could not make one of such pass....
and if he had flopped, it's you and your ilk that will come and blame coach for not sticking to what has been working, Oga coach carry go jare and disregard all these armchair analyst.
Joebie: All those saying Rohr is not a tactician and he is conservative, you will swallow your words even before Russia. Rohr wanted to maintain the trusted formation and winning team during the qualifiers. That was playing safe. It's the right thing to do at that stage especially as we were winning. We were always on top of the group.
exactly my brother, when you know exactly what will work why trying to form any yeye tactician that may backfire, even pep who most analyst hail as the best tactically have had times that his tactics failed him spectacularly, arm chair analyst forming tactical expert
Oasis007: So Vincent is getting younger while Aiyenugba is getting older?! Lol!
I'm ain't saying Enyeama should be ignored but has he proven his Fitness this Season at any Club?!
We need to see him play before we can decide if he should be the No. 1 for the Eagles.
Secondly have you Guys considered what are likely to happen if he indeed comes back to the Team?!
We can't have two Captains in a Ship, and I'm kinda sure Mikel won't relinquish the Captaincy to him.
Enyeama was the Captain to the last World Cup, thus he would want to retire honorably as a Captain again.
enyeama is clearly a better gk than the aforementioned 2 and as for captaincy that's a non issue I'm sure enyeama won't demand for it, definitely he'll be a senior member that'll be respected but can't be captain. 1996 Olympic, kanu was the u-23 captain, but when senior guys like Uche okechukwu and the bull joined they didn't demand for the band, kanu was kept on as the captain.
maybe I'll rather we use Alampasu, you talking about champions league can we say Valdes is a better keeper than buffon because he's won 3 champions league and buffon has none? Oga both of them are average, if ezenwa is not better sef.
Oasis007: If you wanna laugh feel free to... coz you have every right to it. But that does not define you being logic with your opposition against his Inclusion.
he's old, Rohr is looking to reduce the average age of the squad, there's nothing special that aiyenugba will bring to the team that ezenwa doesn't have, both of them are average goalkeepers.
Mickael2: the national team is not club football, agreed but it is not far from it. What about Germany? They can play their third eleven within 6days of calling them together and they will easily hammer Portugal are they not also a national team? You tamper with a winning team because you need to make that team better, why did Spain look so bad at the 2014 World cup? Because they didn't want to tamper with a winning team.
Meanwhile changing a winning team isn't even the main tactical prowess I am talking about. You can see it written all over Rohr's face, when he is making substitutions he looks on like he isn't so sure. The last time he made a good tactical switch was in the first leg against Zambia when he brought in Esiti to help neutralise the opposing team, since then all his substitutions have been bothering on mediocrity and all the time they are like for like subs.
Meanwhile I didn't say we can get those coaches, you said German coaches are similar to Rohr, just some examples.
It took Westerhof 5years but in his very first year we got to the final whilst playing some sleek football. Now if this Zambia game was played in an Afcon quaterfinal we would not have won in regular time because they wouldn't need to attack. The few times we have played against parked buses we hardly made anything out of it. Rohr is seriously tactically limited, his man-management skills though are okay
you keep mentioning Germany, do you know that Joachim has been the coach for the past 11 years? also the German teams have a template of football across all age grade. so it's easy for any newbie to key in to the national team style of play.
TheGoodJoe: Why not say there are no coaches who tinker with their selections of personnel and formations, let me show you others do. Even Rohr who has mixed his style has switched personnel positions, changed his formations and even squad selections in the few games he has handled.
at international level? coaches hardly have time to tinker with formations and players the way they like, they don't have the luxury of that time.
TheGoodJoe: That was my point from the start. I pointed it out because of the heavy criticism Iheanacho came under on this thread and how much we needed a powerful forward. How Iheanacho is not a true number nine and a true number nine will make a better choice.
Now the powerful forward had a poor game and a lot did not criticise. Shows bias to me.
at least you can't accuse ighalo of being anonymous in that game unlike nacho's game against Algeria
AIG07: yes I get you Sir. But V. Moses isn't Messi or Ronaldo.
Truly everyone knows how important he is to the team, but rohr coming out to say that he'll be your joker has gone to far. All what our opponents will be after is shutting him up or better still take him out of the equation. Don't forget Onazi in the last worldcup. The french spotted him as the smallest rudder turning the entire engine. They took him out and we collapsed.
every team knows Moses is our key player whether the coach says it or not, the example of Onazi you cited I'm sure nobody said it that he's our midfield engine room but the French knew it after studying our game(s)
mumemma: I expressed truth....not pessimism...I am a realist...
bros this one no be realist you talking like we want to play Spain, it's just Zambia for fuq sake, if we can't beat them then we don't deserve a World Cup ticket
AIG07: no they don't. But they did the impossible against Algeria. So they deserve some respect.
Algeria you say? bros that Algeria lost out at the group stage at the last afcon, they've used 3 coaches during these qualifiers wey never finish. I can bet that Tahiti will give Algeria a good game if they play now.