mank1234: So it seems. When the host(a lowly ranked team) is placed in same pot as top teams the outcome will always be like that - easy group. It's not rigged. If it were, they would have been found out, at least for once.
The one that somehow baffles me is Nigeria vs Argentina every time.
even France didn't get an easy group, will you tag France Mexico and Uruguay easy ?
Icon4s: Don't blame them. Just like if you are asked who would qualify from Group B I am sure you'll pick Spain and Portugal but the Moroccans would believe they can go through.
But from my experience of past WCs, upsets do happen. Costa Rica topped a group that had Italy and Spain the last time.
This world cup would be explosive. So many teams are in form and there are no weak teams except maybe Panama.
Icon79: It's all fixed. England would always get the easy draw. And the hosts would always get the easiest draw. And the potentially strong teams from Africa would get some of the toughest draw. It's a rigged system.
Mickael2: so because you don't like the toy you suddenly want to forget that your elders enjoyed that particular toy. You seem to want to forget that at 19 Martins was a sure starter for Inter ooo, not even Leicester talkless of being a benchwarmer there
he was the golden boy of Nigerian football, he was tearing up defences in the UCL, I still like Martins and I feel he'll deliver but I think we should look ahead to post Russia. Martins will call it quit sooner rather than later many of his contemporaries have either stopped playing or in semiretirement mode so why not let him be
Icon79: I totally understand what you're saying, but I will still insist that our players are not given as much chances as an average European or even Latin American player. The pattern has been so consistent for anyone who's been paying attention not to notice. Go and take a look at the history of our players vis-à-vis their average Euro competitors:
Kanu Nwankwo was killing it at Arsenal but barely get a chance to start. Players like over the hill Dennis Bergkamp and headless chickens like Sylvain Wiltord were often preferred ahead of him. Jay Jay Okocha - for over 2 years, Jay Jay set the EPL on fire. But once he hits a short rough patch, the big Sam relegated him to the bench and took the captainship away from him. Next thing you hear, JayJay was sold to Hull City. Funny thing was thing Jayjay helped Hull to gain promotion while Bolton got relegated. Talk about "karma". Victor Obinna Nsofor - literally set the EPL on fire when he joined West Ham. Had two bad games and never smelled the starting line up again until he was sold! Victor Moses - Liverpool as a team was having a bad season after selling Suarez, the entire team was piss poor. But who got all the blame? Victor Moses ... sentenced to the bench and left there to rot until he left for West Ham.
You argued that Kelechi doesn't have the pace of Vardy nor does he have the physicality of Okazaki or even Islamani (*I laugh*). But then this begs the question, why did Shakespeare decide to buy Kelechi when he knew (or ought to know) that he doesn't have the qualities he needed? And how could he (or anyone) have reached that conclusions when they have given Kelechi barely anytime to play? Why not start him for 5 consecutive games and see whether he's able to perform?
Again, I am NOT crying racism here but these are just the FACTS that anybody should ignore.
O pari
bros, this your post get as e be, to start with wiltord was a winger, Kanu doesn't even come close to bergkamp that's just the truth bergkamp once came third in the FIFA World Best, okocha was battling with injuries towards the end of his Bolton career and he didn't exactly play a huge part in hull city's promotion he played 18 times with no goal, mostly coming from the bench and nsofor lighting up the epl? very funny. that guy was at best average. let's stop talking like only Nigerians are blacks playing in the epl, what I know is if you are good you'll play and if you are not you'll tey for bench
Joebie: 5 STORIES FOR NOV. 21, 2017 1. Golden Eaglets (2015 Class) forward, Orji Okonkwo pulled Bologna level with a header in the 74th minute to help them seal an away win at Verona. Final Scores: 2-3
2. OGN reports that Super Eagles coach, Gernot Rohr is set to hand Joel Obi a recall to the Super Eagles for March friendlies. 3. Speculations that Kevin Akpoguma has already turned down Nigeria is premature. The former German U21 captain revealed his connection with Nigeria in an interview conducted by FIFA back in 2015. The player attributes his athleticism and his social nature to his Nigerian heritage, and has even travelled twice to Nigeria as his grandparents reside in Benin City. His decision will be made known soon as Rohr is expected to put a call to the 22 year old defender soon. Akpoguma can play all positions in the defense-line. 4. Emem Eduok was adjudged the MOTM with a rating of 8.24, courtesy of statistical football website, WhoScored. Emem got rave reviews after scoring Kasimpasa's winning goal away to Karabukspor. The one-cap Super Eagles forward had 3 shots on target out of an attempted four. He made 2 successful tackles and won an aerial duel. He completed 23 passes out of 29 attempted, and had a total of 57 touches for the over 90 minutes he spent on the pitch. Compatriot, Kenneth Omeruo had a WhoScored rating of 7.79 for keeping the opponent quiet all encounter. 5. If you don't already know, former Hansa Rostock forward, Victor Agali, has been appointed by Gernot Rohr as an official scout.
nice one for agali, I guess he'll scout for German born players
forgiveness: He just won a trophy and has moved from academy straight to the Championship. From league one straight to EPL.
Is that by chance?
and what has he achieved in the epl, just one goal I think. read the match rating of their weekend's game, he had the lowest rating and was subbed off early I think at halftime or early in the second half. comparing Henry with him is bad for Henry talkless of saying he'll bench for lookman.
Joebie: Ebuehi's 6.77 rating don't make him a bad player. Both Lawal and Azubuike are pretty good. Who can play as a 10 is another matter. Both player are good ball holders though. Azubuike is a good passer, but can he also produce goals of his own?
I'm not saying they are bad just saying they are not an upgrade, if the ehizube guy gets invited then that's cool cos clearly he's an upgrade on what we have
realpoacher: At the bolded, this is the same reason why the English team is trash and can never win any major tournament.
Every year, the team is littered with "one season wonder" players who will fizzle out completely the next year. No cohesion, no team spirit, no understanding, no continuity... Nothing! Just 11 "hot" players running around aimlessly like headless chickens without bite. I mean, where the fuvcking hell is Townsend?
I am sorry but with all the hype of premiership their 3 lions is still shiit,... I am sorry, but with all your informed and knowledgeable analysis, your team mentality is still naive,... Both you and the 3 lions have a major problem which is LACK OF TEAM COHESIVENESS!
The problem is you both don't just realize this yet, and I am sorry to say that so long as you hold that myopic view at bolded, you won't still realize this problem even if it hits you in the face.
I mean, so left to you, you will keep changing your team with new faces all the time?... I don't get it, where do you drop team cohesion and understanding?... Regardless of how hot, good players are, they must gel, blend and understand each other very well in order to be called a team. That's why it's called a freaking team's sport.
Changing or bringing in new players everytime will never augur well for the team's success. Too many good cooks spoil the food.
A classic case of a team successful with long time blend of players is Germany.. They won the last world Cup with players who the bulk of them(about 90%) have been playing together since 2010, and they won it 2014. Are you saying that since 2010-2014 they were no better players to those they already had in the team?
A classic case of a shiity team with a shiity mentality/believe that "one season wonders" must play for the team is England and what have been their results?.... Only a world cup title to their name which they even only could win when they hosted it, even at that, it was freaking almost 60 years ago.
The same mentality is what you have (atleast from your disposition here) which I guess its because you are based in the UK. Please and please, the number of SE players tested so far it's enough. What Rohr should work on now perfecting tactics, formations, team spirit and understanding, thats all biko!!
Let's stop all these bickerings and get to work, the time is short!
Yessss, you just nailed it, when I see people throwing names around here I'm sometimes forced to check maybe the player(s) is messi in disguise, really what is the special thing onomah wants to bring that our present midfield options don't have? I've see aluko play several times, he's at best average. struggled in the epl, nothing special with reading, presently what we need now is a back up for Mikel, we can invite aluko but some peeps here are making it look like we are not inviting our best players. all these average UK boys that can't even get a contract with a decent epl team. mtcheew
komekn: That for a manager is not being tactically astute. God forbid what if Shehu gets injured or suspended etc
But the real test is to know how good a player is to test him against another player in the same circumstances.
Manager show preference it's not necessarily conclusive our outright objectivity it's preference.
In Everton Phil Nevill was arguably the least player in the team with regard to ability. But the first on the team sheet much to the indignation of Yobo Plenarr, Anichebe, etc.
Training games are not totally conclusive you need a full match possibly a couple of games to to be conclusive about a player.
I know players who are not great in training but complete terrors on the pitch in a match. So I dont agree with that approach.
Given the same opportunity how do you know Aina will not improve more. You simply do not because the opportunity is denied.
just listen to yourself, so for example Wenger should bench bellerin and use an academy player just for testing sake.
realpoacher: We will surely be needing this kind of midfielder in our team. Considering our rankings we are going to be in Pot 4 meaning that we are underdogs. To beat all the big boiz and come out tops, we must be ruthless and lethal in scoring. Ogu's scoring ability will be needed here.
Whoever is against his play here is just being delusional.
Of what use is winning tackles and we don't score?
Against Iran in our first match in 2014 work cup, we played a barren draw because our strikers couldn't score. If Ogu was in that match he could have given us a goal as MF.
lol, the way guys here are shouting scoring ability for ogu. how many has he scored for his club side. I'm beginning to think the guy na striker sef. myopic fans who can't see past a game
For a debutant, Tammy had a pretty good game. Good positional awareness. Was never overwhelmed by the occasion. Good link ups. Did not play like a debutant. Great attempt at goal. So far i'd give him a 7/10.
weytin you go talk before, aren't you his biggest supporter here
Humility017: oga no one is talking of beating them at their backyard... didn't you see yesterday that the midfield wasn't creative at all.... rohr keep playing etebo in that midfield and what was nacho doing in the flanks...? even salisu yusuf....never played nacho in the flanks...when he was a coach...
all our matches...especially the last few ones...the wings have been one of our strong points to play fast counter attack... to be honest will you play etebo in the middle If you were the coach...
I worried because playing this kind of formation at the world cup...will leave us at the mercy of a very sound technical team... they will beat us silly....
we can't really attest on nwakeme finishing prowess because he was not feed...
Oga, each match has its own motivation, if we were playing for something important the match wouldn't have been like that, so criticising the coach for playing nacho on the wing isn't necessary.
Daejoyoung: I also wonder why he calls it a weakened Algerian team.
don't mind him, but I guess we were not weakened abi. I find it amusing when peeps will come here to say sia1 is a better coach. twice he had the chance to qualify us for the nations cup in both instance all we had to do was defend for less than ten minutes and we'll be there, but somehow we bugled the opportunity cos the coach wasn't intelligent enough
komekn: I disagree you don't seem to appreciate the exceptional experiential quality that Obagoal can bring to the SE.
The diction you use is baffling, you talked about using the term EVEN.
You can't talk about EVEN with Tega Abrahams this guy is the youngest striker that is tearing up the premiership. How can you compare Dessers, Onuachu, and or Onyekuru to him even in terms of performance he is ahead of Ighalo and the darling of many KC.
weytin person no go hear, better than which ighalo, because he's scored 2 or 3 goals in the epl we'll not hear word again, ighalo did better in his 1 season in the epl
TheGoodJoe: Bayern Munich's status in the Champions League, where in recent occasions have made it more to the Semi-finals of the Champions League shows their dominance in the Bundesliga is not as a result of playing weak teams. Apart from Real Madrid and Barcelona, no other team has been as consistent as Bayern Munich in the Champions League. Consider how many Champions League finals they have played in recent years.
People try to write off Bundesliga because of the dominance of Bayern Munich forgetting that in the Champions League, Bayern Munich has also been dominating.
Look at the league today, Werder Bremen is in the relegation area. That shows you the strength of the league. Not using the dominance of one of the strongest team in Europe.
You rated Wigan in league 1 above Wolfsburg without the fear of God.
exactly the season Dortmund dominated the league, they extended it to Europe which means if you are strong enough to dominate Bayern Munich then other European teams shouldn't be a big deal
goldfish80: Osimhen and Solanke are not so much dissimilar. You make it sound like there is a gulf in class between those 2.
Solanke is Liverpool's 3rd choice striker while Osimhen is Wolfsburg's 3rd choice. They both have zero goals to their names this seaon, must be said Solanke have more minutes..
You seem to forget that Arsenal wanted Osimhen. Infact, he snapped a picture with Arsene Wenger in London during his visit to the Emirates for contract negotiations. Some rogue agents hijacked the deal and took him to Germany while Arsenal made due with Nwakali. Why you will say Osimhen can't make any youth team in England is baffling to say the least.
I hate to say this, but the gospel truth is that the last U20 world cup was watered down in quality. Can you compare the standard witnessed in Korea to Nigeria 99,Holland 2005,2007 or even 2009 which Ghana won. Teams like Argentina weren't even in Korea. If the level of competition was as high as what we were used to, Solanke wouldn't have come close to become Mvp neither would England have won the cup.
Yes Solanke did very well for Chelsea's youth team but you don't know how good Osimhen was for his youth team in Nigeria. He could have scored 100 goals in state competitions in Benin.
Again, I say their records are very much identical.
Argentina actually came but were eliminated at the first round, a tournament where Venezuela abi na Peru and England play the final, that says alot about the quality of such tournament
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