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jjk24: Lolz so dis is ma level design(sucks I knw) buh I tink we shuld all geht it - so goatie is in turbo mode dahs him yea d 1 dah luks lyk a roach !! So here is d escape plan he kips running avoiding the stones and the pursuers (we culd let him use is horns to injure pursuers near by then see does tins I named crates?! And that slow motion stuff I talked about wen d player gehts cls 2 d crates den sumfin matrix style apens everitin slws down mr goatie jumps 2 d 1st crate second and Over daht fence yea gbam mr goatie is gone 1st level done#cheers!?( The jumping stuff culd be qte though(quick time events!)

Nice. Should he be on 4 legs or 2 legs when running away?

I will come up with a basic explanation on using github and post it here by tomorrow for everyone who do not know how to use it. However, just create your accounts and send them for now.

We would create the models and have it textured by someone else
In other words, the modelling of a building will be a separate activity from its texturing except the modeler
has the skill set to do that too.

Bulldog: blender and it's go the .blend format

I believe we are going to export to a common format(.obj or .3ds) as jjk24 suggested earlier.
Also, We need to manage/share source codes and assets. So, I will create a github project and get everyone to join in.

So, please create a github account here -> https://github.com/ if you dont have one yet and send me your username
at jivibounty@yahoo.com or post it here.

Bulldog: bungalow model. Nothing inside the house though

nice one.

jjk24: If u can't watch the video the pictures sais it all. U sai drake runnin towards d camera and behind him a truck chasing him then he start shooting @ d car buh nt lukin forward the camera is in front of the player !! Dahs ma "personal" vision for the 1st mission goatie is drake!- running frm humans nt a truck goatie doesn't have a destination jst escape the humans is in is mind so I tink we shudnt giv player the free dom to go eni where here jst direct dem to a certain point along the wa dey avoi stones thrown by the humans jst by moving left and rhyt since goatie is lukin backwards and d camera Is facing the enemies # !! Just watch the vid and tell me wach u tink jivi and co!

not a bad idea. That means the mission would be short.
@dueal, jjk24
going with jjk24's idea, Can we get a draft of how the level design would be so that we can start making 3d models of buildings etc for the escape lane? I searched online for African-like buildings and only ancient huts kept coming out. So, I dont think we can download for this.

jjk24: so the game camera is gonna be up?! Top view for this mission?!

no, thats just an illustration

dueal: @jivi i can handle textures, @all i'm still confused about the story....goaty's ment to battle humans...how will he do dat, and r we still trying to make d temple run mod...whos going to handle dat size of map that looks like grand theft auto. i suggest we stick to something in d form of crash bandicoot camera follow case we still thinking of a run mission.

Goaty will escape first, release other animals before the battle begins because the humans refused to leave them alone. The president of Nigeria wants goat meat for Xmas.(lol)
Some of the buildings will be repeated. Also, its not going to be very big like GTA. Its going to be like a part of a town with a few buildings. It is not going to have detailed buildings like having interiors etc. It going to be an exterior only building but well modelled. and the number could be 20 to 50 with repetitions. We can also re-use the environment for another mission later involving gun battles.

Since the first mission will be in a townish and maybe village-ish setting, we could start modelling nigerian style town/village buildings(1 / 2 storey, not texture mapped) randomly and group into a section of a town with / without the aid of google map image town plan using any nigerian town.

Does anyone have the skill to make texture maps with dirt like in the image below for buildings in the environment? This would guarantee a very solid graphics for this game.

9ineGames: its good to see Nigerians working on building a solid game for pc lovers !!!i really hope this comes into reality and not just die here ....i would advice you guys to just concentrate on doing just 1 short mission!!!*(we hope to help fund such projects in the future)*

Great!

I dont have any art skill. So, I took this screenshot to demonstrate the expected level design. The environment is supposed to be like a village, city or town with a lot of buildings and pathways in between.

Bringing together all the Gameplay design idea's from everyone.
Goatie is expected to run from point A to point B. An Arrow on top of the screen will give him the shortest path to point B based on his current forward direction. However, he can decide to follow any other path and a new shortest path will be created. There is no wrong way. Also, he can decide to turn, in which case a mini-slow motion game involving pressing buttons to make moves will be involved to successfully cross the pursuing humans. He has to dodge obstacles with the button pressing game like jjk24 said. If he is unable to dodge, the humans will catch up with him and a slow motion game to escape will start again. He will be running by default but can control his direction dynamically(not like temple run). The gameplay programming will modify his directions to prevent him from impacting walls directly. At times, some of the humans(being smart) will take a short cut to get ahead of him. and he has to dodge and so on until he gets to his final destination. Also, the humans will throw stones at him. If he does not dodge, his life reduces and they probably catch up with him etc.
Also, Goatie can hit other humans going about their everyday life in the village in the escape process and probably destroy something of theirs and they would probably in anger join in the pursuit. Some others may randomly join and randomly leave but the core pursuers will remain.

jjk24: Ok 1st mission again!- let's start gettin d facts rhyt!- goatie is sold - the buyer didn't tie goatie well enof or hold the rope - goatie sees this as an opportunity and starts runnining( all this in a cut scene)- Game begins- (have eni one played uncharted 2 or resident evil six instead of goatie runin away temple run style d camera culd b facing goatie and we see guys frm behind running to geht close 2 goatie with cut lasses some start throwing stones) - anoda fact is goatie @ 1st is standing normally lyk a goat buh when he start running he is on is feet!! - the player get to hold the run key and the downward direction since we r nt shwin d destination, jst mr goaties back view - players move left to rhyt 2 avoid stones and obstacles -then finally there is gonna be a kinda slw motion adrenaline mood where mr goatie gehts 2 jump and use is horns 2 break or knock crates wich he uses to block the path and done he as lost The humans!! - then to mission 2- he goes back to the farm 2 free the other animals -------------NOTE we can change enifin or add things to the missions enitime and also I tink this level is jst gonna take plc in a narrow path an alley( we culd sai the sellers r illegal sellers so they sell there goods in isolated places!!.)

nice one. We can get started on this. We need to get out a concept art of the environment especially top view plan and then create the first draft model.

I think the decision on what game engine to use should be left to the programming team when we get started.

Preboy: u are a genius! a separate training level would be kul, dat means we have a first level [ escape of goaty/ temple run kinda ] so wats the second level gona be

Mission Update

Acquire Cutlass and Fight.

The humans get to pursue the escapee goat, Goatie with cutlass fiercely.

Release Other Goats, Ram, Cow, Chicken etc.
Armed with a cutlass, Goaty visits several abattoirs to release other animals.

Infiltrate Military Base to acquire tanks - Acquire Advanced Weapons – Ak47, Sniper etc

_Shit just got real. Information has leaked that the goats have rebelled against man and pose a very dangerous threat to citizen's life. In no time, the government deployed troops of mean and hungry soldiers.
General Goatie along with Ewu, Ebili and Gwon Gwon go on a top secret mission to acquire weapons of war fare. In the process, Gwon Gwon got killed. Then, the human Military Commander then said, Omo, see meat. Mek person go prepare Isi-Ewu make we chow.
But General Goaty thought differently. They had to retrieve GwonGwon’s body for appropriate burial rite as a worthy hero and patriot.

Retrieve GwonGwon’s Body, Get the weapons and capture the military commander.

This was the initial plan subject to change and modification

This is how we stand currently. If you have multiple skills and want to focus on just a particular area. Just let me know.
If you want to be excluded, you can also let me know.

3d Modelers
Jjk24
Dueal
Jivi (only AutoCAD)
kazuna

Concept Artists
Dueal

2d Artists
Dueal

Character Design
Kazuna
Dueal
Bulldog

Animators
Kazuna

Sound Designers
Bulldog

Game Story / Game Designers
jjk24
Ajibel
Elvis10ten
Petereddy
Peterjosh
Preboy
Generally, everyone should be part of the design team but these are the guys focused on it so far.

Level Designers
Dueal
Kazuna

Voice Actors

Game Programmers
RationalDude
GideonG
Code Addict
Jivi
Dueal
Nairaface
Solomonope
Javanian
Wiegraf

jjk24: Yea 1 year shuld be enof for this project @ jivi we culd move on to bigger projects after this and it will be easier that way since a team will alredi b in plc !! I tink I shuld be grouped in the story telling ,! Game design team!! I can do basic 3d modeling buh ppl wie beta me fi fi dey here!. @jivi is the team leader!! I tink @jivi shuld state the diff teams daht exist !!. U b big boss @ duel o #respect!.

dueal: @bulldog...definitely...waiting for d tread author (Jivi)...Hey! @Jivi...whats with this 3yrs plan...no one is even a sponsor and do we really need 3yrs...besides, i think the goat game wont need a 3yr plan...at most a 6month plan having ppl with relevant skill set.

Actually, most games are usually playable a long time before they get released. They go through several phases of development withy game play adjustment until it is so good. Also, 3 years means that you may create a level and then several people will just keep tweaking it and it looks out of this world level of perfect. Look at epic games, they start out simple and they keep tweaking until it so good you wonder how they made it.

then, we should also talk of time factor. Most people on this thread have their everyday lives to deal with too apart from this project. All these contribute to the time length. However, we could finish in less time than 3 years depending on time investment.

Lets take each level or mission like a training session like jjk24 said with each level, we get better and can improve on previous levels.

Peterjosh: We gonna have some dirty neighbourhoods with littered streets. Banana peels aided the escape of Mr.Goatee but he was always tempted by the sight of cassava peels along the street

lol. nice one.

Preboy: can't believe that you guys are Nigerians. kip it up and the temple run-ish tin at the beginning would be great bt how is it going to help the gamers understand the controls (considering that's wat every first stage do)

dueal: i love d idea for d goat game but not feeling d temple run level stuff. we can hv all dat explained in a cutscene or so...thut d idea was to hv goat b a bad as* militia

@Preboy and @dueal.
Good point. That's why we are designing the game.
Remove problematic ideas and add new ones. However, there are ways to get around this by adding a separate traning level or making controls easy while focussing on fun factor.

Lets construct the first mission and visualize what the environment should look like based on the game play elements.
My first thought was Mr Goatie's Escape.
Cut Scene.
On Xmas eve, Mr Okoro came to buy a goat for Xmas celebration. Unfortunately, Goatie was chosen and immediately he got untied, he escaped. And the first mission is therefore Goatie running away from the humans. It will be temple run-nish but with extra stuffs like the humans throwing stones at him and goatie throwing stones at obstacles or avoiding them and any better ideas anyone has.

I will compile a list of those who have expressed their interest in working on this project along with their corresponding skillset. So, we can better organize ourselves.

@dueal.
great artworks

meshybizzo: I think this is interesting. The goat story is amusing. I would sure play a game like that.

I just have thing to say for now. An obvious suggestion but I will still make it. In order for this to be achieved you guys have to take this thing beyond the threads of nairaland and form a real team. In here we have heard diff pple bring up diff stories and ideas which many are good but they will only still remain speculations until things become well organised or structured. My own advise to the op is:

1. Gather the team: starting with everyone here interested, know them and find a better way of communication or meeting. Then get a list of all required skill and ensure your team has pple to fit each need skill.

2. Create a plan or process of how the project will be executed. Remember that without proper planning things might take longer and even eventually collapse.

3. Let the Magic begin

Without a team, proper planning and structure, 3yrs might end up not been enough time.

Great Suggestion. I will come up with the list of people working on this project as it stands now and we can discuss how to organize ourselves better.
Also, if you have any relevant skill to contribute, you can always join.

Nairaface: This sounds intersting. Is there room for more programmers? Java, c++.

There is still room for programmers.

Peterjosh: Also I'd like to chip in this,at first the government didn't take the whole thing serious,so they intended using some trained military dogs against d goats battle for freedom. But to their utmost surprise,it all became futile with the dogs as man's best friend using that position to sabotage and limit the arms capacity of the human military(by stealing pretentiously for the military's arsenal).We can also use so silent and creepy animals for stealing arms for the animals cause like chipping MR TORTOISE and his cunning personality portrayed mostly in most Nigerian folktales. Finally the military dogs too want freedom from their master and they join the goats. How do u take this?
How is the settings gonna look like?
I believe it should be a mix of urban and rural settings, in the city TV stations can publicize the goats intent while in the village the town criers rallies info round to the people.
Goats?
We can also have varrying degrees of them,like The west african long legged,west african dwarf goats,malnourished ones depicted by high visibility of their ribs,the mountain goats who are the most rugged ones got a call from their domesticated brothers and they came to their patronage(they should be the most fiery ones cause of their mountain experiences).
Conclusion
I feel in Mr goatee's dream,the international wildlife agency should rise to their help and a new law should be passed against using animals as sources of proteins,rather they should be cloned and the cloned ones can be eaten.
Just my thought

Great Addition, We would find a way to add this to the story.
the dogs probably changed sides when they were reminded that they also get eaten in some places.
The mercernaries would be the mountain goats I guess.

kazuna: Hi guyz, my name is Kazuna. Came across this thread. I'm a 3D guy, how do i get involved?

Do you program or do you do modelling / animation? Also, you can contribute gameplay / game design ideas

worldbest: I was loving the 'Goat Story' but I don't think I would like to play a game where a goat kills humans and tries to save his pregnant mate. I think these goat theme has no historical backing. It has nothing people can relate with (except for the fact that we eat goats). I'm sure you don't want your 'Next Gen' game coming out of Nigeria to be about goats revolting. If you wanna invest 3 years of your time, then I believe the sango, amadioha etc story should be picked. You don't have do go into much details. For example, You could have a plot where 'Sango's sends you (the player) to different villages to help them solve their challenges (bush babies, madam kiokio etc). Those villages are the levels. If you are able to complete just a playable level, release the game to the public, get funding if possible and then improve the story and build more levels. Start simple. Avoid bloated stories. Shikena

lol. First and foremost, its the goat's dream. Secondly, they are fighting for justice not to kill humans(see it as an allegory like animal farm). Thirdly, its supposed to be funny. The humans in the game can be made to seem evil. For example, animal farm. Finally, if a part of the story seems weird, it can always be changed.

It should be both. Switchable.

[quote author=CODE-EATER]Ehen....this is what I have been waiting to see....


My guy,I de ur back...

I can:

Contribute a gud story lin(as an art student)

Help in d voice ish... as a theatre arts student..


Contribute in character design..



And if the need arises... a web site....[/quote]Code-Eater has volunteered to be one of the voice actors

jjk24: I guess escaping the pursuers is the 1st mission, releasing other animals is the second!! We culd use this missions to teach the basics of the game to the players! The third is retriving gwon gwons bodie is the third! The third will lykly take plc @ a military camp and since the soldiers r busy tryin 2 cook gwon gwon we culd giv the players tools to play the mission in a stealthy way!! and its also gonna make more sense since mr goatie doesn't have that much weapons yet!! Buh after this mission player culd choose how they want to approach each mission!, buh I will lyk to add this to the story!! Mr goatie jst can't sai he wants to kill all humans is its only goal how about he is also finding is captured mate (female)!! this game is gonna be funny buh we culd let it be emotional too !, his mate might geht pregnant along the way or his mate might be alredi pregnant giving him the motivation to find her!! #cheers

Yeah, that's right. Maybe, he did not find his wife after releasing other nearby goats because she has been sold.
During the course of the game, intel came on her whereabout. and then, he had to rescue her before she gets slaughtered.

Also, we can give names to character based on the animals popular name or anything close in sound or meaning.
for example
Cow - Melu, Mumu etc
Goat - Goatie, Overseer(Big Eye), Ewu, Gwon Gwon, Ebili etc

Mission Update

Acquire Cutlass and Fight.

The humans get to pursue the escapee goat, Goatie with cutlass fiercely.

Release Other Goats, Ram, Cow, Chicken etc.
Armed with a cutlass, Goaty visits several abattoirs to release other animals.

Infiltrate Military Base to acquire tanks - Acquire Advanced Weapons – Ak47, Sniper etc

_Shit just got real. Information has leaked that the goats have rebelled against man and pose a very dangerous threat to citizen's life. In no time, the government deployed troops of mean and hungry soldiers.
General Goatie along with Ewu, Ebili and Gwon Gwon go on a top secret mission to acquire weapons of war fare. In the process, Gwon Gwon got killed. Then, the human Military Commander then said, Omo, see meat. Mek person go prepare Isi-Ewu make we chow.
But General Goaty thought differently. They had to retrieve GwonGwon’s body for appropriate burial rite as a worthy hero and patriot.

Retrieve GwonGwon’s Body, Get the weapons and capture the military commander.

Lets contribute mission ideas.

dueal: ok...if dats d case i hv d codes and art. who has d animation?

Great to know you can also program. There are several ways to get animations, Microsoft Kinect, pre-made soldier animations online etc. That would do for now. However, that is not a pressing issue now. since, we coming to the end phase of the story concept. We would be getting into the story development where art, modelling and game design skills become more important. Lets focus on that for now.