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Max will do better as a comedian
I mean how can one see in black and white where it was written that saints resurrected and seen by people in streets, yet he says it was a future blablabla...
While at the same time believing the existence of a character in biblical Jesus and his own resurrection account within same period(not future)..lol
This is crazy. This is really crazy
Max is fast losing it seriously

Rosement:
Yes, you are right but my Jesus has risen like He said.
My Jesus has risen, my Jesus has risen, my Jesus has risen.
My Jesus liveth, my Jesus liveth, my Jesus liveth.
Luke 24:6-7
6 He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,
7 Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.
Read Isaiah 53:5-12
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
John 11:25,
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

Nobody is disputing if he was risen from my line of argument.
From Psalm 118 there are two lines there..
1. I shall not die but live to proclaim ( this could be twisted to your explanation above. You know how pastors do this things)
But
2. He wasn't given over to death.(unless you are saying he didn't actually die physically contrary to what new testament says)

Rosement:
John 3:16,
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Read Matthew 28:19 to understand.
We Christians believe in the Holy Trinity, the Father, and the Son (Jesus Christ) and the Holy Ghost.
Jesus is the second person of the Holy Trinity.

John 1:1,
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jesus is the Word, Jesus is God and David is the son of Jesus, so he can never be equal with Jesus. Jesus was the one speaking in Psalm 2:7, Jesus was the one that made David is begotten son. Even David referred to Jesus as Lord.


Matthew 22: 41-46
41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,

42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David.

43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,

44 The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?

46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.

So going by your analogy, Psalm 118 talks about Jesus too?

Psalm 118
17 I shall not die, but live,
And declare the works of the Lord.
18 The Lord has chastened me severely,
But He has not given me over to death.

But biblical Jesus was given over to death for the sins of the world.

paramakina202:
Why should I answer question meant for DSS hqtrs?
IPOB can sue them if you all feel MNK right was violated.Whats the noise all about self?

I'm glad you are beginning to think for yourself

paramakina202:
You dont do IPOB but you speak like one.

You still haven't answered that salient question I asked but you resulted to trivialities.

stanluiz:
Nnamdi kanu legal team are very useless. With some like Barrister Ejiofor nnamdi kanu will rot in jail.

Ouk meet him in prison and Nnamdi kanu was happy to meet him yet Ejiofor is taking rubbish and been a set back for kanu freedom.

Ouk is the only man that I know that can guarantee nnamdi kanu freedom. If that incompetent Ejiofor continue to attack him then nnamdi kanu fate is sealed in prison.

How do Africans trust their politicians so much?
I mean even after failed promises of good governance?


Ouk should grant himself freedom first to pick up APC presidential ticket

paramakina202:
Yeah,while the followers of the master of knowledge are behaving primitively and barbaric in the streets of Igboland including beheading and roasting of human heads etc...When MNK was notified about OUK visit he have every right to decline but he approve it.

You don't get it do you? Even if allegedly MNK approved his visit, how did he gain entrance without a clearance at the reception?
That is what Black people should be doing; thinking critically.
Note: I am not here to do ipob/non ipob with you


WHAT IS HOLDING BACK THE BLACK MAN IS IN HIS HEAD!

paramakina202:
OUK said MNK was glad to receive him, I don't know why Ejiofor is making noise all over the social media to deceived already deceived blind followers of the imprisoned saviour.

It's not about who is happy or who isn't.
DSS themselves gave a guideline for visitors. How did kalu gain access?
This question you fail to answer explains how backward and non progressive a black nation will always be.


WHAT IS HOLDING BACK THE BLACK MAN IS IN HIS HEAD!

yanabasee2:
Women full this country oh.... No go mumu for one woman weh go use your destiny carry practice her juju ...

...what imported religion has done to you
Quite unfortunate

winfy11:
This is what happened when you don't know the meaning of faith and how it works. My people perish because they lack knowledge

You have come again.
How does faith work?
The good book says you shall lay hand and that's exactly what he tried doing before reality check.

Oh my Africa
This is what happens when you believe what the Europeans repackaged in the name of religion.

But at least he should have saved himself some stress by going the way of other pastors who do 'arrangee'.
Or wasn't he given the orientation? Lol

MaxInDHouse:
I didn't see this earlier!
You're welcome Mr ATHEISM!

Locking my doors is because of unbelievers like you who feels there's nothing about life than to acquire everything. If i travel to any part of the world today i'll sleep in my brothers homes and we will not be suspicious of one another! Can you travel to any country and do the same in the home of your fellow atheist?
Even by the road side he will not greet you talkless taking your life serious because to him you're just another ape that can hurt him when you want something desperately!

Hahahaha. Max, I have been observing this thread silently.
Whenever you are found out, you normally gasp for breath.. after a long wait, this was what you came up with?

MaxInDHouse:
Do you still think you deserve a reasonable or direct reply from any right thinking person?
Come on, you don't have any faith so what you think is irrelevant.
Why do you think most people like you are running after Max?
Well it's because you can see that this person have a strong faith that's not wavering and you don't, so you're disturbed about it just like atheists and agnostics.
Oh sorry you're also an atheist!

Stop using the hide and seek tactics. Did he ask you to defend for him?
It's obvious you do have a hard time replying or explaining things to me.

Reply directly to my questions for you
Max the guy man

sagenaija:
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Think about these:
Israel was expecting a Messiah.
This was after they've had Moses and the prophets. So, he was not just viewed as 'another prophet'.
Even your Koran calls Jesus "THE MESSIAH". Not a Messiah but the Messiah.

Mathew 1 - the angel's words to Joseph
"But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins.”
Matthew 1:20‭-‬21 NIV

John 1 - John the Baptist's declaration
"The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!"
John 1:29 NIV


Luke 4 - Jesus at the start of his work
"and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written: “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.” Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him. He began by saying to them, “Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.”
Luke 4:17‭-‬21 NIV

Jesus's declaration
"Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."
Luke 24:45‭-‬47 NIV

So, CLEARLY Jesus's primary mission to the world was to be the atoning sacrifice for mankind's sin.

There is no difference between you and the ancient Greece/pegan - ( belief in human sacrifice)

MaxInDHouse:
I was also a Muslim before i converted to JW so if you're interested in knowing the truth you've got to put aside sentiment and face facts!

First of all the true God of Israel never called His worshipers "CHRISTIANS" neither did Jesus mention anything as such. So how did Jesus' first century disciples got that name?

They were trying as much as possible to do things the way Jesus instructed them because he told them that it's not by calling him Lord! Lord!! or bowing or kneeling before him that matters rather they must do the will of his father who is in heaven (God) Matthew 7:21-23

The reason is because many back then acknowledged Jesus as Lord they keep calling him "Lord" and kneeling before him but they missed the import of his message:
Before anyone can qualify for everlasting life he/she must become an imitator of Jesus Christ in thoughts, words and actions. This requires great humility from each person as we must abandon what we prefer doing and cling unto what Jesus taught us. Luke 9:23
That is what the inhabitants of Antioch saw in them before they nicknamed them "CHRISTIANS" in fact it was a mockery back then as whoever is known by that group name is considered a slowpoke who can't think by himself but always adhering to Jesus' words.
Many of them were arrested and killed just like their leader yet they will not fight back nor compromise their faith. So the inhabitants of Antioch began calling them by that group name to vilify them. But Jesus' followers welcome the new development with joy and they're now sure that they are doing exactly what their leader taught them! Matthew 10:32-33

So the group name CHRISTIAN is not what God wants to call His worshipers the inhabitants of Antioch were using it to mock Jesus' disciples.

God has foretold through Isaiah the prophet that his true worshipers will be mocked with a name, they will drop it for Satan's agents who will later carry it on their head, but the true God will call His own worshipers by another name and destroy all those hypocrites using that mockery name as a disguise to perpetrate evil!

And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name: Isaiah 65:15

So my friend, the name "CHRISTIANS" wasn't God's choice rather God permitted His people to bear that mockery until Jesus separated his true disciples from the midst of misinformed Churchgoers {Matthew 13:30} the name God has always called His worshipers are "His Witnesses" {Isaiah 43:10-12} Apostle Paul also confirmed this when he wrote a letter to the Hebrew speaking congregation and after listing the names of ancient servants of God {Hebrews 11:4-32} Paul declared that they are WITNESSES of the true God! Hebrews 12:1

So from Abel to Jesus Christ himself and true servants of God today we are all JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Revelations 1:5

May you have PEACE!

Max you are funnier than them
So Paul a real character (supposedly) or a fictional character said you are God's witness and then you converted it to a name?
How about floating a movement like "Jesus' chastised (jC)" or " the son's chastised (TSC)" since biblical Jesus himself said you will be persecuted for his name's sake (this could even make more sense from the horses mouth) ..

Even a movement like "children of God" ...since you want to be converting sentences/clause to names

MaxInDHouse:
Why should i consider answering you?

I understand

MaxInDHouse:
If you're sure that there is no true religion then what exactly do you want with me?

Typical Max and dodging. I don't know why you have a hard time explaining things to me.
That comment wasn't directed at you. Answer the question meant for you

Rikze:



The problem is not from Religion, but from false religions that masquerade as worshippers of the true God.

There is nothing like that. You are the person that gave the types ..lol
Religion is an organized scam. I can prove it

MaxInDHouse:
The truth is you are not a Christian at all not to talk of being BORN AGAIN.
Most people like you just like to belong when they see something is widely accepted but you don't really want to know what is involved.

What you're seeing today is the result of Jesus' prophetic parable found at Matthew 13:24-30

Jesus came to establish pure worship but Satan came in when all the pioneers of Christianity are sleeping (dead) Matthew 13:25

Jesus commanded the angels not to interfere {Matthew 13:27-28} they should allow all these groups to continue growing together until the time of harvest. So the religions rocking the entire inherited earth today are all claiming they believe in Jesus but only one belongs to him while others are the products of Satan's weeds.
For your information this is the last minute of the spiritual warfare it's not about weapons but psychological, you have just shown with the topic of this particular thread that your faith in Jesus has been affected badly by Satan's missiles! Isaiah 54:17 compare to Ephesians 6:14-20

Well your faith can't be strong when it's not built on the truth that's why you don't know the hour in which we are now, that's how they will continue to argue blindly until God's kingdom come to wipe them all away!

Max I'm back for you

Let's say he agrees to just pure worship without being a registered jw member would you identify with his beliefs ?

MaxInDHouse:
Israelites are used to prophets and miracles so Jesus wasn't that great to them since they've heard of such in the past before his time.
Meanwhile he never wanted people to know his face rather what matters to him was his teachings and that's what he was able to achieve.

Max..lol is this all you can say? You said something about popularity earlier and you are now saying he wasn't great again, meaning many people didn't feel his significance in their lives to provoke paintings of Jesus..
That's very low of you Max
Jman is here again to give you something to struggle with..

Max
If you can't show me a picture ..then you have been scammed big time

MaxInDHouse:
If you're not stupid does the story tells you that Jesus was some celebrity or some influential ruler like pharaohs that artists back then can think of drawing him?

Use your brains my friend, because Jesus' teachings later became popular due to the unflinching effort of his disciples doesn't mean he was a celebrity in his lifetime, remember he loved a quiet life and never wanted to make a showy display of himself. So there is no way any artist could have sat him down to make an artistic impression of Jesus!

Go round the town and see what artists today does with pictures of celebrities nobody thinks of drawing someone whom nobody knows his face. The story told us that one of Jesus' closest confidants had to kiss him before those who came to arrest him could figure out whom they were hunting. Guy use your brains!

So all those triumphant entry.. and crowd at his trial was not popular enough? Or the 5 thousand men he fed were not significant enough?...
The miracles especially the water to wine thing, healing ...etc..
Come on Max , you are really funny
The joke is on you

MaxInDHouse:
Picture of a man who lived some 2,000 years ago?
Now i know you're not sane, because humans have been existing on this planet for thousands of years and never has anyone demanded a picture of people that lived back then since there was no cameras during their time. So go and see a psychiatrist fast!

Lol. At least there are paintings of what look like the Pharos of egypt some thousands of years BC....
You can as well say there were no carpenters then (eg father of biblical Jesus) or sculptors ..lol

I'm just asking you to show me what Jesus looked like.... We ain't quarrelling

Jman24:
Max the historian..lol
Ok since you know about history..show us a picture of this Jesus to start with

Is it this person in the ads ?

MaxInDHouse:
That is what you were told.
The book says Judaism isn't what Moses taught them but what was fabricated after the Israelite's return from Babylon.
So Judaism wasn't God's standard but what the stiff-necked people choose for themselves.
When Jesus arrived they knew his teachings is unique but they preferred Judaism because it allows them to practice hypocritical worship.
That's why Jesus was executed in Israel so no right thinking person can expect the same people who executed him to accept his teachings!

Max the historian..lol
Ok since you know about history..show us a picture of this Jesus to start with

MaxInDHouse:
I love your teasing because it gives me the opportunity to express myself the more! Luke 6:45

So check the difference between JWs form of Christianity and British form of Christianity!

JW: All members must love their neighbours as themselves {Mark 12:30} so no member should think of using FORCE or WEAPONS to settle differences no matter what happens! Matthew 26:52

British: Members should vow to be patriotic to their home-land and most importantly the Great Britain. So there's no need for setting matters amicably if the neighbouring nation goes beyond their boundaries PICK UP YOUR WEAPONS AND FIGHT in support of your own race and kill your neighbours whether they are also Christians there or not. Matthew 5:38


JW: Racism must be shunned completely in the midst of Christians so whoever wants to become the ruler is none of our business {John 6:15} since our own Kingdom is no part of this world {John 17:14} this makes it easier for us to have ONE mind as if we are of ONE BODY! John 17:20-23


British: You must fight in support of your brother so nepotism is allowed! Matthew 12:46-50

JW: Members must be prepared to sacrifice part of their time to go and make friends with their neighbours sharing the message of God's Kingdom {Matthew 10:11-13 compare to Malachi 3:16} so even if your neighbour isn't interested in what you brought you can both find a common ground and continue relating as neighbours {Matthew 22:39} but if your neighbour agrees with you and you find yourselves on the same page regarding faith then you must love him just as Jesus loves you {John 13:34-35} so there's a distinction between the love for neighbours and that of our brothers in faith! Galatians 6:10

British: Members have no business going to knock anybody's door, each person should mind his/her own business. And once you're done with that you can possibly share food and drinks with your neighbours during times of festivities. So there's no ground for heart to heart chatting which could make you and your neighbour know each other better.


THE RESULTS! Matthew 7:16-18; James 2:18-26


British form of Christianity kept separating those who claims they're CHRISTIANS as racism and politics is leading to WARS among them! Luke 11:23


Jehovah's Witnesses keep bridging the gap between people of all races so that while others are fighting and killing their neighbours due to racism and politics {Revelations 6:3-4} Jehovah's Witnesses are desperately protecting their fellow believers {Joshua 2:4-7} from bloodthirsty political groups claiming they are beleivers in God! 2Timothy 3:5

No wonder everyone is saying JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES love themselves! John 13:13-35

Hahahaha. It's not only love themselves.
Max you think people are toddlers on this forum?
You cage people in one sect, indoctrinate them , then give yourself the believe that you love yourselves.. lol

So you are telling me other groups like Freemasons Don't love themselves?

pressplay411:
OP the level of misinformation and misinterpretation that has permeated christendom is alarming.
99% of Nigerians actually believe Jesus is God even when the Bible clearly calls him the son of God and Messiah.
It is an effort to futility trying to convince them otherwise. Just let them perish for their lack of knowledge save for the few who are open minded. Their pastors have a lot of cases to answer to for reducing the legacy of Jesus to a mere idol cos this is refurbished idolatry.

Hahahaha..
I had a clash with one Reverend like that last year concerning funds for project. The guy wanted to use all those curse threats.. and I told him to stop doing juju stuff... Lol.. the sharp look he gave me was everything like I received a revelation or something.

I continued that all religion is man made and he can't claim ignorant of this, having passed through trinity college.. Lol

We became good friends thereafter.

MaxInDHouse:
Each time you listen to a true Christian there is always something to LEARN!
Now you know that there are two different fractions claiming Christians!
The first most people like you knew is the

@British Colonial Masters: This one comes with dogmas so you don't have to study the Bible to be certain of what Jesus commanded, just join any religion around you calling Jesus name or worshiping Jesus and you're good to go.

@Jehovah's Witnesses: This one comes with careful reading, diligent studying, thorough meditation, serious critical discussion with fellow believers and fervent prayer {Proverbs 2:1-5} before you decide to live by what Jesus commanded, then get baptized {Matthew 28:19-20} and everyone in your neighbourhood must know you as one of those coming to knock on their doors {Act 11:26} for the purpose of preaching and teaching others about what you know (Message of God's Kingdom) Matthew 10:7

So you can choose between those whose tenet has penalties for which you could be punished if you wilfully go against the teaching {1 Corinthians 5:9-13} or those who has nothing to hold you for after all you're free to switch over to another lane (another Church) since all of them are claiming CHRISTIANS! Matthew 7:13-14

So why do you go about teaching people this things without allowing them to carefully read on their own to know which type they belong.
You go from house to house teaching people from your own understanding to be qualified a jw and you say u are different from British?

Max will not kill somebody

MaxInDHouse:
The RELIGION the British brought before 1920 is falsehood it has nothing to do with Christ or Christianity. I'm responding to your post because you mentioned the "Crusades" which never had anything to do with Jesus' teachings!

Wao Max Max. It's been a while
I can see a lot has happened around you, that Christianity now has two types according to you; the one from Britain and your jw own
Lol

The funny thing about this argument is that you guys decided to deliberate about 2 supposed characters (yeshua and Jesus). I'm not even interested in whether the two are same but what about other messiahs like Cyrus (Isaiah 45)

The earlier we rediscover ourselves the better.

Imo state is fast becoming like Rivers State.

Political actors are to blame for violence in Nigeria.