MaxInDHouse: Do you have talking snakes? A spirit being used that snake as puppet that's why Jesus referred to Satan as "the original serpent" Revelations 12:9; 20:2
Sorry, i forgot you don't believe in Jesus so there's no way you can understand what the Bible means by a talking snake!
Lol. Max will not kill somebody.
Revelation 20:7-9
And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
You have made a negative correlation. That your biblical Judas was used by such spirit of deceit doesn't make him the devil. He was still Judas. So that the snake being used by such spirit doesn't make it a devil. And so many other people being used according to your good book) ...That's an oversight by the writers. They didn't think it through
The text should have gone this way: And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the Rival ; and the Rival and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the rival was cast out, the Devil, who used the serpent of old, and deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Steep: Ignorance! According to the Bible man is created in the image of God, what does that tell you? That some of the characters of humans actually originated from God. Characters like love, goodness, faithfulness, justice, truth, justice etc are from God.
My friend stop dodging my question why is it that humans judges have right to kill but a lay man have no right?
I'm still asking. If Human judges have the right to kill justly, doesn't it make religion man made?
It would have made more sense if the commandment had said; "thou shall not kill unjustly" English language is too difficult for you
... by the way, innocent children in the good book were also ordered to be killed so your argument is baseless
FreeStuffsNG: He has no choice than to face the justice system he earlier ran away from in order to continue his vicious campaign of violence against innocent citizens of Nigeria, especially our patriots of Igbo extraction in uniform . He must be given complete access to fair hearing and justice to establish that his victims deserve justice.
Hopefully, Justice Binta Nyako will decide this IPOB terrorist leader's case this year. All the victims of his rhetorics of violence deserve justice . All the victims of the IPOB terrorists cannibalism deserve justice. All the victims of the burn down of Lagos by his terrorist followers who heeded his evil instruction to burn down Lagos deserve justice too. All the enemies of Nigeria will lose las las. They always lose. God bless Nigeria forever
You see why Africa can never ever develop?They don't read in between lines. Admitting that kanu said any army you (@ elrufai, Garba,) send will die, is admitting that elrufai and co have the power to deploy Nigeria's military to any region, which is not far from treason.
WHAT IS HOLDING BACK THE BLACK MAN IS IN HIS HEAD!
kingxsamz: Okay bros. How about this? Let me see the excuse you'll come up with.
Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
1 Samuel 15:3 Go and attack the Amalekites and completely destroy everything they have. Don't leave a thing; kill all the men, women, children, and babies; the cattle, sheep, camels, and donkeys.”
StJohnofChrist: Jesus fulfilled the role of prophets, in that he prophesied, performed miracles, was God's representative on earth. But he didn't call himself a prophet, and was very much different from the prophets, he claimed to be the Son of God. No prophet ever made such claim to themselves.
Matthew 16:13-17 KJV When Jesus came into the coasts of Cæsarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
He even claimed to have existed before Abraham. John 8 vs 58
Common sense should help us even, I mean, all the prophets in the bible prophesied about the Messiah, who'd come out from the Davidic line. Why would they(all of them) prophesy about another prophet, no. They prophesied about someone greater than a prophet.
The problem with you religious folk, You take things too literal. I have come across so many people including you who were named sons of god. So what's so special about saying flesh and blood has not revealed it to you?
If you noticed the reply of previous people, they modelled biblical Jesus as another servant of god when he should have been modelled as his own self ( son of god) . The writer probably projected biblical peter and Jesus as people who promote self esteem.
MindHacker9000: If you watch this well documented history of the Roman occupation of Jerusalem then you would know that the antichrist has already occured with the "the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel" when the status of Caesar the emperor was placed in the Holy Temple to be worshipped.
I like your attempt at dishing out facts, according to the writings in the good book. How do you reconcile your write up with the doctrine of hell fire and being talked about in same Revelation, where unbelievers will be thrown into the lake of fire(second death) ?
MaxInDHouse: His appearance will not be literal so YES, it will be twice! After Jesus' death some Jews that embraced Christianity still doubt if all what Jesus said about the land will surely happen. But they keep obeying the Apostles anyway since they're seeing fine qualities in the result of their teachings. But when Jerusalem and it's temple was destroyed and all their priests died with the swords of roman soldiers just as Jesus prophesied {Luke 21:20-24} Read what Jesus told his followers and imagine you never had the opportunity of seeing the man who said all these but you heard from his follower's mouth {John 17:20} then you heard how all these happened exactly the way Jesus' disciples told you. Do you think anything can make you doubt whatever they tell you about this same Jesus afterwards? Well that's what seeing Jesus meant for the survivors of the destruction of Jerusalem in the first century!
Today Jesus' appearance is hear again!
He promised to return and gather all his (obedient) subjects under one umbrella (group) so that the whole world could notice the difference between those having faith and people without faith. Everyone will be saying "they have LOVE among themselves" {John 14:34-35} people globally knows that this group have the same line of thought everywhere you find them {John 17:22} they're the world's number one preaching and teaching team {Matthew 28:19-20} they will not raise weapons against anyone in the name of racism or politics {Matthew 26:52} and there is no country where people don't mistreat them! Matthew 10:22-25; John 15:19; 17:13-14
Surely Jesus is around now gathering his faithful and obedient subjects throughout the world because the world has never experience all these things until the year 1914 till now when Jehovah's Witnesses said Jesus returned!
Lol. There is no difference between my permutations about angels/aliens and your permutations. The only difference is that I maintained according to the op's write up, the events have occurred already, since it was for that generation. And certainly, that generation has passed away.
MaxInDHouse: First of all there's nothing like RAPTURE in the Bible so teachers of that theory need to explain where they got it. Secondly Jesus was talking about two events: One marking the end of God's dealings with a faithless nation and how they will be scattered throughout the earth no longer will the twelve tribes be found together as a nation anymore. That's exactly what happened in the year 66 c.e. The other fulfilment of Jesus' prophecy points to the end of human government globally, Jesus will come to the earth to take away all his chosen disciples that will rule with him in heaven. These are the same people who will be transformed into powerful angels and their return will be to kill all the enemies of their righteous government. They will do this to protect their earthly subjects who are always obedient to them! Luke 19:27
So all what you need to do is ask for the meaning of Jesus' message because your wish to see the end of faith in God ironically means your end! Psalms 37:7-11
So you are implying that the appearance is twice from that Statement ? ... because the so called second event has already happened because it must happen before that generation passes away. It could be that we already have humans transformed to angels or aliens, if you like, doing the killings of enemies from wherever, to protect what ever .. lol.
At least if you believe the resurrection story, you should also believe my assertions
Lol. Man made religion. So because biblical Jesus says he doesn't know when he's coming, you implied the rapture talked about hasn't taken place? Sometimes i just wish this religious stuff is done away with, not because it's fiction but because people defy logic in reading. The op is right contextually. All those signs including gathering of the so called chosen people could only have happened before their generation passed away. So by implication, the biblical rapture has happened.
peggywebbs: You are not far from the the truth but just a little bit of error. The rapture hasn't happened yet and I say that yet with a big emphasis.
What that scripture simple says is that the endtime began from the moment Jesus left the earth. The church has suffered persecution since then. The disciples witnessed everything Jesus foretold except the rapture. He himself told them he did not know the day or the hour of his return. This knowledge was left alone for God.
If you read the book of revelations, the part of the opening of the seal. You can just go over to the chapter I'm not great with Bible quoting but I know basically almost everything there. So you will see when they needed to open the scroll and were looking for someone worthy. The bible says a lamb appeared which looked like it was just just slain and then they rejoiced saying that Jesus was the only one worthy to open the seal.
That incident was immediately after his crucifixion. The seals of judgement were being open one at a time, and we have experienced practically almost everything those seals have revealed. The only thing left now is the revelation of the antichrist, and his rule on earth.
So like I said, the disciples began to see experience the end times when they witnessed in Matt 24:1-32 according to your reference. Please go again and look at it. It wasn't something any pastor told me. I had interest and really studied it. All the books are saying the same thing whether Daniel's prophecy, Ezekiel's, Jesus and John the Revelator. They are all connected, you can't interpret one without the other.
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Not surprised that your preaching of your SCAM gospel is for your stomach.
MaxInDHouse: It's a lie, the true God only introduced himself to Abraham and his descendants that's why you keep harmering on the TORAH!
See views of human beings
1.Some people believe that Jesus is God ( they use incarnation story)
2. Some believe that Jesus is not God ( here they use the geneaology story as decoy to suit this claim ..that " he is the Messiah/flesh that was very much talked about when traced)"
3. Some don't even believe in the biblical character Jesus (Because there is no agreement in their own good book as to whether Jesus is God or not )
4. Some people know Jesus is fiction (because they have historical records)
Number 1 looks clear, but number 2 looks confusing. Now let's rearrange the sentences.
1. The incarnation story was created to make you believe an immortal can be mortal
2. The Messiah story was recreated to suit the geneaology of a saviour who is flesh and blood
But when you rearrange sentences 3 and 4, you don't really need sentences 1 and 2 to draw a conclusion.
Why?
Because you can do a direct rearrangement of 3 and 4 ( just read the ones in the bracket first) and connect to the previous clause.
MaxInDHouse: You and i aren't saying the same thing! You've not answered my question, why must the Messiah be a Jew and not Yorùbá, Nigeria from Africa?
Hahahaha Max Max, trying to using reverse psychology to massage his ego and avoid response to facts accordingly. So if I believe that the Messiah is youruba, would you believe me?
MaxInDHouse: Why must you tell lies about Jesus? Where in the Bible is it written that Jesus was born on 25th of December?
Why must you tell lies about a created figure/human (a very popular character in his time) we do not know what he looks like but we do know what pharaohs of egypt look like
AntiChristian: I know you have a better understanding of the Bible. Can you please elucidate what these two verses mean in relation to your statement above:
3. Your Breasts* Song of Songs 4:5-6 5 Your breasts are like two fawns, like twin fawns of a gazelle that browse among the lilies. 6 Until the day breaks and the shadows flee, I will go to the mountain of myrrh and to the hill of incense.
4. More description Song of Songs 7:7-8 7 Your stature is like that of the palm, and your breasts like clusters of fruit. 8 I said, “I will climb the palm tree; I will take hold of its fruit.” May your breasts be like clusters of grapes on the vine, the fragrance of your breath like apples,
How will you explain these verses to your female kid(s)?
Max and co are having a hard time defending this. I understand their fear. You know that feeling of trying to protect a book as so holy and unquestionable
Rosement: The prayers in the Book of Psalm is also for the nation not for the Psalmist alone.
There are other Godly men that used I when praying, for example Prophet Isaiah and Prophet Jeremiah and we still use their prayers as prayer points. Isaiah 12:2, Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the Lord Jehovah is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. Jeremiah 12:1, Righteous art thou, O Lord, when I plead with thee: yet let me talk with thee of thy judgments: Wherefore doth the way of the wicked prosper? wherefore are all they happy that deal very treacherously?
I don't understand what you really mean by "Also trying to know why using a singular "I" shouldn't be referenced to the psalmist rather than a future savior." Can you broke it down so that I can understand?
Someone said psalm 7 is all about the future savior Jesus. That was where I needed clarification
Rosement: The only prove I will give you about Jesus being God is the words of Jesus Himself and if you debate it, there is no reason for me to argue with you. I know Jesus can never lie but people that doesn't understand the things of the Spirit might say otherwise about Him.
Psalm is full of prayers and we are permitted to pray for want we want, so why should we pray for what we don't want? Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
Our prayer is our request to God. If I don't want to become a doctor, should I request for it from God because somebody else is requesting it? My own wish is different from somebody else wish. Jesus Christ accepted to die on the cross, He was not forced, so why should He have prayed not to suffer? Did He want His mission to be demolished?
Jesus is not a follower of David, why should He say or do everything that David does? Don't compare Jesus to David, they are not equal. Jesus is the God of David and He is also a father to David. David called Jesus Lord, Jesus Himself said it in Matthew 22:41-46 and Psalm 110:1 confirms it. Matthew 22: 41-46. 41. While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42. Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David. 43. He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, 44. The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? 45. If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? 46. And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions. Psalm 110:1 The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Jesus Himself proclaimed that He is God in John 10:30, I and my Father are one. John 1:1-18 explains the Jesus Christ is God. 1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2.The same was in the beginning with God. 3. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 17. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18.No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Lol Here you go again. I'm not interested in knowing if Jesus is God according to my line of argument. I'm only using the words of a few who said Psalms 7 is about future Jesus, to match a contradiction in psalm 118, which you call a prayer for people. Also trying to know why using a singular "I" shouldn't be referenced to the psalmist rather than a future savior
Rosement: Psalm 118 is a prayer for us not to die until it is our appointed time, Jesus Christ fulfilled His mission on earth and He declared the works of God. Jesus died at His appointed time, everybody's appointed time is different. Read Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 for more understanding 1. To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: 2. A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
If Psalm 118( I shall not die but live...) is a prayer, why can't Psalm 7:2( I will declare the decree of the Lord..) be a prayer for people to be begotten of the father?
Rosement: Of course, He died physically because He paid the debt for us. Physical death is a debt we all have to pay, Modified every human being must die physically but as Christians we believe we shall live again even after the physical death because Jesus died physically to pay the prize for our sins, so that we can be excluded from the spiritual death.
He also resurrected physically and ascended up to Heaven physically, so we believe in the miraculous power of His resurrection.
You are just contradicting yourself. Since he died physically why did Psalm 118 say he wasn't given over to death?(this is simple English in the affirmative that he didn't die physically) it is quite different from " he wasn't abandoned to death"
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You are right So many things are really going on in the world, just that people who are more vocal about this hidden truth are targeted. That's why at times we join the popular chorus in public to stay safe from harm.
All these sponsored health people. Just because Christmas is approaching. I wonder why black people can't develop their own science and find out why HIV can never correlate to AIDS ..
When someone dies of malnutrition, untreated typhoid/maleria and severe diarrhoea, It suddenly becomes AIDs caused by HIV.. laughable!..
You have a virus in your system which should pass by naturally by response of strong body immunity . But this guy with a strong immunity is being asked to take some strange drugs.. laughable!
When will black people make money from whites by over hyping common cold(virus) which comes at anytime and goes ?
Continue killing your organs in the name of man made test kits
MaxInDHouse: You know i have over 8,700,000 people who share the same line of thought with me so if you and your friends who are always at loggerheads now think i'm wrong well my 8,700,000 global family throughout the earth says otherwise!
It still has no bearing to my first submission because there are millions of people who share same faith apart from yours