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Itsrm:
They told me in my sons school he was always looking at his classmates when they munch their snacks and advised we also buy for him.

I had no choice. Is it really luxury? What alternative do I have. Tell him not to look at them when they eat?

Lol... Kids nowadays are more ajeboyish sha.

If na my days my teacher report me to my parents say I dey look longingly at other pupils snacks, na that I go explain with tears whether na bobo and biscuit I never taste before. Or whether if I no taste am I go die. Or whether the food wey I carry go school no satisfy me or whether I get different compartment for meals and and another compartment for snacks for inside belly

BlueRayDick:


I believe we are talking about a middle-class family and not an extremely poor family na. Smart TV was still around N350k before Buhari left. That is not expensive, even civil servants can afford to get them via membership of co-operative societies. If someone earning 600k cannot use Smart Tv, then who can afford it then?

As regards the snack, u would not want ur child to beg other kids because u are being principled or frugal. Snacking is something almost every kid does. U can't just go zero on snacking if u don't want ur child to be begging other kids or worse still, steal from others. Na ur pikin teacher sef go advise u to try dey give the pikin if at all bobo and coaster biscuit make other pikin for rest

Lol... I'm talking middle class here.

I grew up going to pry sch in the early 2000s and I'll grade my parents(esp my dad as a little above middle class) and the pry school I went to is a Catholic school in Abuja. The school fees is high wrt the other schools my peers were going (as at 12k when I graduated in pry sch and other schools as at then ranges between 4-7k) yet I don't take snacks to school. The only people bringing snacks alongside food were the very rich kids and you can easily spot them. I dunno about now but even my uncle that sends his kids too doesn't add snacks to it and no, it's not a public school.

It's all about instilling it sha. If our parents hear that we beg or look person food longingly, we don die for house that day. And God bless you first let you steal.

Well, everyone with the way they view things sha cos we were actually taught that taking snacks alongside food is luxury. And funny enough, every of my siblings and uncles are following that approach. It's a big reason I found it surprising hearing it here, I never knew it's now normalised.

As for the TV part, I still see smart TV as luxury. Most average/middle class families I know of, only few uses smart TV. Most na all these wall mounted plasma TV. It can be wide too. Shey no be just to watch TV and dstv mostly ni

iamoyindamola:
In the list it wasn't stated that way
That's why i didn't talk about rent
All in all spending 600k is based on choice not necessity because if you don't have the 600k you will still survive and everyone will adapt

Aptly put!!

Theflint1:
By buy things in bulk you mean for one year? Abi no be money and space Dem dey use buy things in bulk?

Well, the thing is that a Nigerian family man can still run his family with 600k.

He just needs to cut his cloth according to his coat. Make we remember say na naija we dey oo, no be Yankee

BlueRayDick:
Only rich kids take snacks to school ? I don't agree o; even kids who attend public schools still take bobo juice and biscuit to school along with their lunch. If u don't a child snack do u want him to beg from his mates?

mobile internet means the normal data u subscribe to like Smile, Ntel, swift and the likes which u make use of anytime u are at home. U use for ur Smart TV, office work u brought home or personal surfing of the internet. Except u are saying u don't owe urself internet connectivity while in ur own home.

Please point out more luxuries in the list

The bolded, I see it as something new gen z upbringing sha. In our family we don't do it and even while growing up, I nor my siblings weren't exposed to such sha and we didn't see any big deal in that. But no matter how we want to look at it, it's still luxury. It's just one of those luxury instilled as necessity by most parents. Just as some people can't do without having/subbing DStv in their home because they think it's necessity.

As for the others, aside personal surfing which I use on my phone, most of the others is just once in a while and it's not most families that have this home internet sef. Average Nigerian family man doesn't have smile or swift at home in this our obodo naija. As for Smart TV... Lol, that's really luxury. Except one have it before cos he's once Rich, what would make a family man earning like let's say 200k have smart TV when he can buy normal wall Lcd TV?

Na egbons full here oo

CAPdan21:
Na egbon full this side Sha...the major thing for every family na transportation, feeding, school fees, rent, fuel (for car and gen), clothing (maybe quarterly in bulk), if you as a man can provide all these anything else na by your discretion...Family data ke

Gbammm!!!

That's my point oo and I believe that with 600k, a family man would be able to do all these things especially if you buy things in bulk.

Realmrsean:
but these 600k una dey talk of, aren't other side gigs that's giving in money?

What if the days wey Dem dey owe salary nko?

Your uncle might be doing other side gigs that's fetching him money which you don't know about

Owing salary is out of the equation bro, we're talking of ideal situation like you getting 600k monthly.

My point is that even with the side gigs, he won't meet up 600k. There are sometimes the money might be delayed or sort but once it comes, he'll settle everything.

But the important point is that the basic necessities of the family including medical necessity (like little illness or injury) he's able to provide for it.

Emaprince:
You buy GOTV

This is where cut your coat come in. But for some one who was once easily subbing DSTV and suddenly couldn't afford it due to high cost of thing, it means surviving on 600k is now tough. That's prospers point.

Subbing DStv is luxury. When they say cut your coat according to your coat, it simply means cut down on Luxuries. Nobody go die if dem no sub DStv sef whether compact or not are there are different forms of entertainment.

Prosper case of 600k would be valid if the 600k can't take care of NECESSITIES of the family again or it'll be very difficult to take of the necessities no matter the cut. But If it can, then Cut it. And that's what most families in Nigeria are doing (Which is Iz.zou point so far)

Theflint1:
37,500 per month.

Tey keep saying the things there are luxury and I'm struggling to see how it's luxury. Jodera say instead of DSTV/GoTV, make d papa dey download film instead...no be money for data be that, or maybe na those 360p videos wey na only phone you fit see wetin dey go on...or maybe office data. There's ways around some of these things sha, or maybe the kids just don't watch TV, and you go for fairly used books and old newspapers as form of entertainment...maybe.

My uncle have one of his neighbours he normally tips for him to do night plan and download films for his kids. And with just 200#, the guy download films 480p, and the 200# will yield like 5-7 films, depending. Now this kids watch the downloaded films during the weekend and he does it like twice a week(sometimes once a week sef). It surely means for a month he's spending #1600 for 20-28 collections of films.

Tell me why these kids will lack weekend films in the laptop and tell me why this Man isn't prudent enough?

I'm not saying every parents must do this, just showing you that there are ways to cut down on this Gotv/DStv stuff for kids.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]This thing is abundant everywhere.

Even people who do business; how many earn 600k monthly? Yet, they are okay.

I am surprised this is a serious debate here, and that is why i believe i am among the rich.
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Lol... It's really surprising tho.

Na person pikin wey don chop belleful go dey think about compact and other luxuries

iamoyindamola:
As i they i no fit watch gotv
I no just like am

That's luxury sha...

Me aside football, all these subscription TV no dey freak me and if na films, night download fit run am.

Necessities of life are good food and water(and it's accessories like gas and stuff), good shelter and clothing. And to some extent car and fuel. If a family man can do these to his family comfortably in this Nigeria, then he's not poor at all.

Any other thing like DStv, juice for meals and all na just luxury

BlueRayDick:
Yeah, I agree DSTV is luxury.

What other luxuries do u think are on the list for someone who lives in an expensive major city?

If you're giving Kids base foods to take to school, why still giving them snacks??
I still feel it's a luxury for the kids to be honest.
I see some kids bring that to school (food plus snacks) and one thing I know is common while growing up, they were very Rich family kids


Family Data? What does that mean.?

If it's mobile internet family subscription. That's the first time I'm hearing it too.

If a child is old enough to have a phone, then he's old enough to save at least to sub for his own data.

All these things to me a expenses for Rich families that are really luxury. Necessities aren't all these things na.

Trevor012:
Jodera don reach this side 😂😂

I dey enter here time to time ooo..

izzou:
[color=royalblue]GoTV dey oh. Dem leave am go put Compact

Dem nack DsTV Compact. COMPACTT

How many homes dey watch Compact sef? Even Hotel sef no dey subscribe Compact.[/color]

I see DStv compact, my eye turn me.

Na real Rich family man be that.

When Gotv dey there?

Even without Gotv sef, most average families can still do without all these subscription ish. Most kids no be films dem dey use am watch.

Download films for dem pata pata and dem go watch am taya with laptop.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Really paltry.

You will start to wonder if the Nigerians that have kids and drive 15 year old cars are earning 1 million per month.
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E just dey amusing really?

If he's looking it at his own pov, then maybe he's correct (as per Rich family man). But on a general family man in Nigeria, 600k will be okay to scale above comfortably. I know my Uncle who has 4kids and yet they eat 3 times daily healthy meal (not 2 oo) and yet still there's still money for day to day expenditure yet he doesn't earn up to 600k

BlueRayDick:
Just go through that that list in few pages back and see if most of the things stated there are not necessary or not. It's not just about looking at the money as a whole sum. Look at the breakdown.

I still feel some are not necessary (personally my opinion). There are some luxuries some people might see as necessity.

What is one doing with DStv compact if it'll have strain on your budget for example?

That's luxury if you ask me

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Na poverty and Spartan lifestyle you dey live

Are you buying data of 50k?
Are you buying fuel of 60k?
What about miscellaneous? Is it up to 100k
Black tax nko? It should be 235k

Nothing wey person no go read [/color]

You forget feeding of 40 people for 300k.

How paltry 600k go do?

BlueRayDick:
U just over work urself. Havertz is a basic ordinary player ; it's visible to the blind and audible to the deaf. Gabriel Jesus is head and heels above him in terms of technicality, dribble, press and even passing ability.

Anybody that wants to keep lying to themselves about Havertz's ability that is not visible on the pitch, let them keep at it.

I go just leave am after this. E be like say na different arsenal him don deh watch

Spy360:
You know that I for one is not chicken and I won't hide mouth or deny my personal opinion even if they turn out not to be right.

I did say that I preferred ESR to Kai for LAM and I gave my reasons which are very logical. Which is that he is right footed and therefore a counter balance for Odegaard at RAM who is left footed. I still stand by my word because believe that if given play time we will enjoy ESR more than we are enjoying Kai. So Kai may be the best option for the manager now at AM but it's my believe that ESR will even be better if given enough time to assert himself.

In the case of Kai vs Jesus, it is the same logic that Kai gives more output as a false 9 than Jesus especially in pressing and in changing the positional dynamics. Kai's movement is better and with his size he dominates defenders better. While Jesus overloads the attacking third, Kai overloads the midfield (which for me is better, though sincerely let me admit that I may be wrong here because Jesus is so inconsistent) but then it's an opinion. This is a very logical stance and I don't see how you are confused about it apart from the fact that you love being confused. Is confusion a hobby to you?

Saying Kai gives more in pressing and positional dynamics than Jesus is pure lie from the pit of hell except na Another Jesus and Kai wey dey Arsenal Tula of Russia.

Kai would never have given that assist to Saka against Nottingham forest neither would he have given the assist to Trossard in crystal palace. Kai can't even score that goal against Man u that Jesus scored sef. No be same Man u opportunity Kai had against Liverpool and he started falling down looking for penalty cos he's sluggish.

Nothing Kai gives more than Jesus except we want to go full-on route one football but then even winning aerial balls Jesus is no slouch either even though I know Kai has the edge over here only because of height.

Never put Kai in Jesus in the same sentence regarding CF biko.

The less said about Kai the midfielder, the better for everyone

mostob:
O boy... who arranged the fixtures sef. The best thing is to accumulate the maximum points before those run of games. We defend with our lives at Etihad. Spurs and United no suppose cause us too much problem if all our players are fit. Brighton ain't the Brighton we all know.

Yeah, we need all our players fit in that run in plus we don't know the kinda form these clubs will have by that time. We just need to be strong on our own las las reason why I just dey hope on dem Timber and Partey.

Roland17:
I have a bridge to sell to you in Lagos, if you think Partey is 30 years old. Baba is at least between 35-37, if not 40. Atletico, milked the best years of a younger Partey.

What they sold to us is an aged Partey, who while still good, needs high maintenance and management. Arteta did not get the memo early enough and overused him early on. With age comes increased injuries, particularly muscle related injuries and recovery takes forever.

Chai.... It's a pity for us

afrodoc2:
He didn’t have the courage of his convictions. Some people sold their shares in Microsoft before the stocks blew.

This is a teachable moment to young kids at home, “you have to stay the course, never give up and never give in”.

Oga Sir Timb.ros don teach us motivation and lessons

We go put am for heart Doc

afrodoc2:
They too have answer sheet to fill or is it only tim.bros that will do exam?

You didn’t answer on whether tim.bros opponents still accuse him of being a Peseiro fan.

You have to look at this thing holistically rather than just from tim.bros angle.

The thing is that they are the accusers while timb.ros is the defendant.

If we want to look, we always have to look at defendants angle Tbh.

All these wouldn't have been necessary if tim.bros have just said or something of this line like, "Yeah Rohr is gone, and he's been replaced. I don't regret that he's gone one bit, whether Pese shines or not, Rohr is gone. And who the hell give a hoot about friendlies?"


By now, he would have all the infinity stones to cast on all his accusers. But no, he outrightly denied Peseiro and washed his hands off him. Now he wants to dine with same Peseiro, who does that?

afrodoc2:
But timbros you sef should not be trolling o.

After denying Peseiro 3 times, you now want to share in his glory.

O wrong bakan nau 😂

You sef don see am.

afrodoc2:
He denied Peseiro. Now he has changed mouth and accepted him.

The people who convicted him of being a Peseiro fan are they still of the same opinion? Or have they changed mouth?

If they have changed mouth, are they the only ones allowed to change mouth or it a universal human right? 😇

Dem no dey change answer for answer sheet when dem don already mark exam paper na.

He had all the whole time in the world for the acceptable change of mouth (before afcon) but he didn't. Now we result don comot na that time him know say him 1+1 na 2 instead of 11 he initially wrote


O wrong nau

afrodoc2:
Then it is an unfair fight. One vs many. The many can cite precedent but the one can’t.

Even customary court no fit allow that. LOL

He too has to be allowed to delve deep into the historical records like his opponents.

He made it unfair to himself when he decided to open case where he shot himself in the foot previously

What was he expecting?

afrodoc2:
Oh was it just 2 vs 1. I thought there were more people involved.

So you guys that claimed that Peseiro replaced Rohr, are you now claiming that Peseiro did not replace Rohr?

O wrong nau! 😛

Lol...
He denied Peseiro, that's the bone of contention here.

Nothing changed except his denial which him wan attaché now because of success

Name anybody wey change mouth aside him let's drag the person too if not..

... O wrong nau

afrodoc2:
So since they are using his past words against him is it possible for him to also use their own words against them, namely their stance that Peseiro took over from Rohr?

Or are they the only ones to use past words to nail the other person?

Tbh, it's a yes.

Mind you, like we said, na him open case o, not people that's nailing him. We need to use his own words and evidence against him

afrodoc2:
When the fight is an uneven fight of 10 vs 1, he is allowed some palliative.

Actually, it's just two vs one (Airmark and Popi).

Izz.ou and I just wanted to clear the air that interim of eguavoen doesn't mean replacement which he vehemently refused. Now na that same replacement him wan attaché himself on

O wrong nau

afrodoc2:
Why did they want to forcefully attach Peseiro to him then ? And why do they want to forcefully detach him now.

It’s either they were right the first time or they are right this time. They can’t have it both ways.

They want to forcefully attach Pese to him then because they believed Pese took over from Rohr.

But according to his own words, Pese didn't take over from Rohr. He gave two conditions that must be met for him to be eligible for dragging

1... Sack Rohr
2.. Appoint Renard.

And he vehemently stood on the 2nd one.


At the end of the day, It's his own words been used against him and nothing else

izzou:
[color=royalblue]It is not on both sides

We didn't bring it up. We forced him to take Peseiro and he refused. What effontery does he now have to troll us with the same rejected stone?

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Na wetin deh make me laugh pass. He would have been the biggest winner by now If him no deny am

Person wey use days talk say na eguavoen replace Rohr and not Pese. Come still use days talk say NFF no fully follow him conditions no suppose attaché himself to Pese success at all

afrodoc2:
The shamelessness is equal on both sides. 😄

The person that was denying Peseiro before is now attaching himself to him.
The people who were forcefully attaching him to Peseiro before are now trying to forcefully detach him from Peseiro.

I don't believe it's from both sides.
When dey forcefully want to attach Pese on him, him no gree and used days to force it comot from him neck. Now wey small boy don turn bigi man, na now him wan gree.

Plus, it wasn't the people who brought it up sef. Not that they would have been wrong if they decided to rub it in cos he clearly and explicitly denied Peseiro then