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Spy360:
I have already modified my post to state that you alluded to Martinelli, Odegaard and Saka being the beneficiaries of the other things Jesus brings. So in essence he is sacrificing for the other players.

Like I said, it's not about not being clinical. If Jesus plays like Nketiah he will score even more goals. But as long as he 'brings the other things' his goalscoring will suffer. Nketiah has confirmed my assertions.

I prefer a Jesus that scores goals than one that brings the 'other things'.

Our front 3 scored against Westham.
Our front 4 scored against Brighton.

So whether Nketiah scores or not doesn't stops our other attackers from scoring too (as it's designed they'll always get into goalscoring position).

The question is: Does Jesus and Nketiah gets at the end of chances?

Your point of Jesus sacrificing would have been valid if Jesus doesn't see quality chances as a striker but on the contrary he does.

So what separates Jesus from Nketiah (and the rest).... being Clinical

It's so simple!!

Spy360:
You write long epistles so tey you confuse yourself.

I asked a simple question mind you.

We complained that Jesus is not getting on the score sheet. I said it's because of his style of play. That Nketiah if given the opportunity will score goals because we already have creators on the wings and centre.

You said it's not, but that Jesus is just not clinical. You claimed that Jesus as a striker is not as clinical as Nketiah but that he brings other things which Nketiah does not.

Then you compared goalscorering strikers and non-goalscoring strikers and then you ended up in the bolded, that both attributes are mutually exclusive.

I think this case is done.

Lol, I meant both are not mutually exclusive.

Jesus brings more to the table that can't be denied. It's simple. Nketiah doesn't offer much like him(even though his game now Is developing)

The game against Newcastle needed Jesus more as Nketiah was man-marked.


Like I always say, Nketiah is a good back up striker for us and as he keeps on developing his game the better

TrebleChamp:
Just dey play u hear

Lana1:
Person wey dey stan Harvest no rate Mbappe like that

He doesn't rate Mbappe laidat
He doesn't rate Haaland
He doesn't rate Saka
He doesn't rate Rashford


You'd think the only player he rates are Messi and Ronaldo but naah.... He rates Havertz


Like otu Havertz !!!

Spy360:
I dey hear say Mudryk refused to pick Chelsea call, he even bounce one. Chelsea vex sign Felix.

It's one of the things that already made me even like Mudryk laidis laidis sef

With the way he was talking about wanting to come to arsenal and nobody else(if arsenal bids for him), I needed to see how true that claim was with Chelsea interest and he just proved to be a real arsenal fan as he claimed.

Na this kind players I love cos they'll always give their all to the team

Spy360:
Take a careful look at your words in the emboldened.

You are implying that Nketiah is a better striker than Jesus. Because for a striker the primary duty is to score goals. Nketiah scores more than Jesus. And you have claimed that Jesus is not clinical- misses big chances etc.

If it is true, then why is Jesus benching him?

The reason why Jesus is benching him is

1.... He's a new signing specifically ordered by Arteta and Edu. So it's normal for any striker coming in (in such circumstance) to bench the 2nd choice striker of last season.

2... He's more experienced in all ramifications than Nketiah. This needs no explanation

3... The most important of all is that he brings more to the team than just Goals. Yes, striker primary duty is to score goals generally, but it's a fact nowadays that coaches prefer strikers who brings that something extra than just scoring goals(since most Coaches are system manager btw). So when a striker is not scoring, what else does he brings to this team? How else is he making the system click for the betterment of the team?
If you think because you're a striker and you're just scoring goals without bringing other facets of the game, I'm sorry you won't last long (except if you're extraordinarily good like Haaland).

There's a reason why Auba will be subbed (even as him came In as a sub) in Chelsea games and coaches will prefer Havertz as a 9 to either Auba or Lukaku (even though say Havertz na another scrap on him own).

There's a reason almost everybody (prior to this season) are all "strikers" in Guardiola team and why he benched Aguero in his prime even went as far as buying young Gabriel Jesus.

There's a reason we hardly had tremendous success in league with Auba as striker (even last season) but we clicked almost immediately when Lacazette started leading the line last season(which was the platform for us going all out and identifying G.Jesus)

There's a reason a Liverpool penchant goalscorer (in Origi) was a perennial benchwarmer while Firmino was their striker for over 4yrs.

There's a reason the "Chicaritos" of the world are going into extinction.

There's a reason Benzema(before Ronaldo exit) who wasn't a frequent goalscorer was their main striker always while Goalscorer Higuain was sold

It's also one of the Big reasons why I was against us Signing Tammy Abraham when he was linked with us last season before his move to Roma even though he had a good goalscoring record.

Until you realize that most Coaches nowadays look at the bigger picture of the team and not just the surface level of "my striker isn't scoring", then you'll stop being crazy about our striker not scoring and look at the bigger picture of how the team fare with his presence.


Now, please, don't misconstrue me by thinking I meant Jesus shouldn't score. No!!. What I meant Is that in this system, Jesus as well as all the front 5 are "strikers"(as the responsibility is now shared for unpredictability), so anyone who have the opportunity to score should please do so.

Jesus should rightly be given the stick for not being clinical(unlike his fellow forwards like Saka and Martinelli) not you wrongly criticizing him for doing the things that's making our system effective. It's not as if both aren't mutually exclusive!!

mostob:
Yea...
They should finalize the deal before weekend abeg. What is even worrying is that were not working on any other target. Maybe Edu want to keep it silent like Fabio's.

Lol.. I read the deal have almost reach breakthrough as it seems tho a positive compromise have been reached.

Hopefully this week or next, he'll sign for us

TrebleChamp:
United gave Lisandro guard of honour too

Good...
If man u also signed lisandro to win WC, who am I to counter otherwise?

Spy360:
Nketiah has scored 5goals in 6games.

Jo.dera can you remember that argument we had about Jesus staying in the box?

He may be a better player but Nketiah will outshine him based on goals scored this season.

I never denied Nketiah won't get more goals than him nor did I ever counter the claim.

The issue is not about Jesus not staying in the box, it's about Jesus not being clinical like Nketiah.
I wonder how someone who has the most touches in the box and most shots in the box in EPL and most big chances missed in EPL (before his injury) Is accused of not staying in the box. I've debunked this farce that last year.

Unless he learns how to be clinical (which I believe Arteta is working on him on that aspect as he was already showing signs in the wolves match), Nketiah will still be getting more goals than him and not because of any "staying in the box" claim.

mostob:
He looked sharp and almost scored.

He said something about the injury being disturbing him since he was 19 years old. Look like his recent surgery was done to correct everything once and for all.

BTW, Chelsea are going for Felix. Shakhtar is the loser here. It is either they accept our offer or swallow a big L.

Yeah @ bolded. I said it here when he wanted to go for the surgery that he wanted to treat a growth "something" that has been disturbing him since so the club advised him on the surgery since he won't be making England's WC squad.

Hopefully, Shaktar suppose gree now. They wanted to pit we and Chelsea head in a bidding war so that they'll have a great deal. Thank God Mudryk insistence on choosing us played a good part too

iamoyindamola:
There was no names printed just like last season too

Really?
I didn't even know sef

TrebleChamp:
You are free to troll Ronaldo, like i am free to troll Messi. Abi PSG signed him to win World Cup ni

Ehen na...
And he has done it.

That's why they gave him a guard of honour clap

afrodoc2:
Penduists don’t know when to give up.

Like??
How the trolling wan take sweet?

TrebleChamp:
When people criticise Bruno's performance during Dablord time here, i and Expert always come to his defence. I still love King Bruno but i don't defend him like Expert does this days, he doesn't let a Bruno dig go without responding. Its called mad love for your Fav. So when some Messianic cultist criticise Ronaldo claiming he was United's problem last season, we are obliged to respond in his defence. Messi had a horrible season last years in a weak League 1, but his cultist still defended him. Trolling still plenty this season, we wait the outcome of this season CL fess...

You want to troll Messi with UCL this season when your Goat is already playing in walahi talahi FC??

What a Makanaki something !!!

Shebi the UCL goals wey Ronaldo fans dey claim say pass Messi remain only 5? We await

Roland17:
Makes sense.

Dem turn me to “Afin” under sunlight..

Me I no even bother to check their names sef when I noticed it's not visible. I can't go and coman kee myself

kokaneprodigy:
We won sign shakushaku

Cc: raumdeuter

God forbid

mostob:
Probably a precaution. Nothing serious jare

Amen oooo

So glad to see ESR ystdy

MorataFC:

You want Jo.dera to give you a smackdown knock?

E be like say him want make Otem visit am this year

Ellexy:
Exactly what I said. They shouldn't be crying now when it was them who dressed the bed.

I taya ooo

patrickmuf:
To be honest, it's tiring seeing those guys spam the thread with Messi's pictures...Of course I was happy that Messi and Argentina finally lifted the world cup but for me, it changed nothing as I already considered Messi as the greatest that ever did it not because of trophies won but his footballing abilities which he deployed on the field of play.

The world win was more for the doubters and those who rode on the bandwagon of 'He has not won the world cup trophy thus cannot be the GOAT'...They have been silenced.

Any Messi fan who is still basking in the euphoria of the win was never really convinced hence the incessant trolling...

Most of the people spamming here with pictures are people I presumably feel are guests who were reading the Cr7 Vs Messi debates going on here(especially the Messi heavy trollings) and were just waiting for the right time to strike. I mean, it's not that much in Madrid or barca thread sef and also it isn't much in Chelsea thread (the highest moving thread for that matter). That should tell you that it was really a targeted place and something like a score to settle. They knew how here would have been if reverse was the case so they're just giving them a dose of their own pills they (Cr7 fans)would have served.

While I'm not in support of spamming but Cr7 fans trying to make it seem as if it's Messi fans that caused it should look at the main culprit in the mirror.

Joezinho:
When a cock invites a cockroach for a birthday party, he has prepared dinner for himself.

Shey messianic fans are now happy?

Tbh, na Cr7 fans be the cock weh invite cockroaches for birthday party. I no know why you deh call Messi fans.

And so many occasions, I remember Patrick warning you guys that Messi is not a Man u player and that he should be left alone but no, everytime Una go dey table Messi matter for here. You guys troll Messi here almost everyday last season and if Messi fans who also doubles as Man u fans starts to defend him, you guys will want to blackmail them with "you're not supporting your own legend". I even read that it was worse during the first world cup game when Argentina lost to Saudi. Lol, even Madrid thread no even dey troll Messi the way you guys do here courtesy of yourself, Lostm.yzeal, tremble.champ and chief Trev.or

It's hypocritical of you to now spin it around to Messi fans for eating it when you guys brought the table and served the food
Maybe y'all probably thought here is a closed group and that guests and other people aren't reading (without commenting)and just waiting for the right time to strike.

Penduist made the bed, it's time to lie ontop and Una don dey cry say "messianic cults".

TrebleChamp:
Was surprise to see some Monikers who never ever joined our Ronaldo vs Messi debate, and suddenly claiming to be a Messianic cultist after the World Cup. E.g Nezz.jnr ...

Actually, I thought Nezz was either a Ronaldo fan or just a fencist too o

Roland17:
While I like the white jersey, I think we need to adjust the color scheme for the numbers/ letters to a darker shade. Even though I recognized the players, it was difficult to identify the numbers and I no even know if names even dey the jersey.

I think it's because of the message they're passing with the jersey is the reason why it's just solely white(even the names and numbers). Making it another colour or darker shade might defeat the aim probably.

iamoyindamola:
What happened
He get knock?

Yeah, he had a knock when ESR came in for him

My own sha be say ...

Hope Saka will be available against Tottenham?

Ellexy:
I'm surprised he doesn't know.

Lol... Me too oo

TrebleChamp:
You say wetin

it's very obvious na. He's never a Messi fan

mostob:
How that one no take be penalty?

There's no Var.
Anything we see na to just take for this match

mostob:
Sambi finally get network and renders my prediction imperfect

Good news is that Esr is back.

Hopefully nothing happens to our front 3

mostob:
That's why I put probably. I don't know why the coaching staff are not looking his way.

Sambi's signing was kinda based on recommendation. Not that Arteta personally wanted him.

Hmmmm...

As for Azeez, since he's not even making it in even either fa cup or Carling cup team I knew it'll be hard to break into the team

Ballzproblem2:
Chelsea wants a right back , Midfielder and a wide forward this month.

MATT LAW.


wtf is a wide forward, y'all be making shit up

opposite of inverted forward eg Pedro