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patrickmuf:
If Mane was clinical and scoring goals after goals, do you think Klopp will entertain the idea of having him track back thus expending so much energy? In the season Mane tied Salah on goals, he was very clinical and occasionally had to take up the CF position during games but that was for just that season, he couldn't maintain that hot streak because it's just not his game...

Mane is a great player but this season, he has not played at the level we have cone to expect from him. So, whilst you'd still find him tracking back and progressing with the ball, he just doesn't get past players or score as much as he did when he peaked a couple of seasons ago...For now, Salah is clearly having the better season...I make bold to say that if Egypt had won the AFCON, then Salah would have stood a good chance to win the Balon d'or assuming Liverpool go ahead to win a couple of trophies but it's not a case with Mane, he has not had a stellar season up to this moment though if he up his game and plays a stellar role for Liverpool in the remaining months of a season, the odds might just switch to his favor...

100% agreed


Mane wey na him previous work dey still keep am for Liverpool. This season, he even tried compared to last season sef. Man have been underwhelming since last season. Consistently missing easy goal, can't beat his man easily as before and always going for the hard option. Yet someone will say Salah have the privilege to have "off days" but mane has not.

airmark:
Then the golden ball winner, wouldn't have been useless in the semis like Abubakar was. I am not sure he had even one shot on target throughout the 120 mins.

So it's no longer that "the winner must drag his team to final", it's not now " he wasn't useless in semifinals" right?? So all the talks about dragging to final don change now

You don dey dance shaku shaku be that

Lana1:
elampiro's kind of player are the "pace & pawa" kind of players.
That's why players like Young, Valencia, Adama Traore are his heros. And that's why he is more insterested in who can sprint more, make more interceptions, clearances and tackles between Mane & Salah than actual goal scoring output

Lol.... In summary he prefers brawns over brains

Leyqute:
Now, this is what I was talking about.

You are passionately justifying Salah’s inability to put in a solid defensive shift while I was merely stating a fact.

In ghen ghen pressing, defense starts from front and salah is good at that. That Mane does it better than him doesn't mean he's bad at it. Settle down and watch Liverpool's game well and see Salah pressing from the front even down to midfield. I don't know what you mean by solid defensive shifts, but salah is not a defensive liability as you earlier claimed. Modern Attackers job is to score goals, create chances, press from the front, help in build up and occasionally helps in defending fullbacks. And Salah is excellent in all these

izzou:
[color=royalblue]So attackers need to have defensive qualities before they can be rated as Team carriers, okwaya?

Some of you are just wasting your talents.

If you begin your own skits on IG and Tiktok, BaeU and MrFunny no go see Una back
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Facts!!

In years to come, we'll hear how Alonso is one of the best defenders ever to grace the EPL cos of the goals he scores and how Rooney is greater than C Ronaldo cos of tackles, work rate and interceptions

pkasso:
This is one myth that needs to be debunked. Salah is NOT a defensive liability. Just because he doesn't chase players up and down and isn't as combative as Mane, doesn't mean he is trash defensively. He does his fair share of defenaive work. Closing down defenders with his speed, blocking passing lanes etc.

Does it make any sense that Klopp's Gegenpressing system anchored on the attackers pressing and forcing turnovers high up the pitch would harbour a defensive liability? A complex system such as that would fall apart if one, just one player was slacking off defensively.

SALAH IS NOT A DEFENSIVE LIABILITY.

A very very big myth.
Ask them why someone like Origi isn't seeing matches even with his good goal ratio? Klopp will prefer firmino as cf, and even went ahead to buy Jota. They think if salah doesn't put in defensive shift, he'll be seeing matches like that. Under ghen ghen system??

Salah dat can press and block passing lanes smartly is whom they said doesn't put defensive shifts.
I laff

Leyqute:
Salah is a liability defensively Chief. Forget matter. He’s a great goal scorer and all but he doesn’t put in solid defensive shifts.

Not saying this to belittle him or take away from his shine. That’s just the fact.

He might not be as defensively as others cos he's needed upfront. Or you think all attackers must go all the way back to their own box 18 to defend?

Any attacker carrying the mantle of the team hardly goes back to their box 18 to defend, it's common sense. That doesn't mean they don't put in defensive shifts.

Ronaldo doesn't do that at man u first stint, nor at Madrid under mou. Messi hardly does that even at barca under guardiola, hazard hardly do it at Chelsea. Even Van Persie didn't do it under fergie

Salah's defensive shifts mostly stop in midfield and it starts at the opponents 18 yard box. If he defends all the way back to his goal, who'll transition ball from midfield to attack?

Leyqute:
There’s a lot of truth in this.

Fergie played with 2 midfielders but his wingers, AMs and strikers were putting in solid defensive shifts. Rooney, JS Park, Nani, everybody.

They didn’t leave the defensive work for the midfield and defense. It was a team effort.

There's difference putting in defensive shifts and using your defensive shifts to mask your poor attacking stats. Or you think Salah don't put in defensive shifts in Liverpool?

Expert17:
Mane won't even make Liverpool top 3 players this season.

Salah, Arnold and Jota.

top 3 is even too small. He won't even make top5 diz season sef

Uniquisite:
Stand up
Go to bathroom
Use water to wash your face
Come back inside
Read what you wrote and digest it..

Are you sure it is Manchester United you see or Manchester City

elampiro:
When Rooney, Tevez and JS Park were doing these things for United, we won titles. Na eho no know ball dey talk of zones.

Rooney, Tevez where known for goals. While I'm not against work rate but it's somehow(not right)to use defensive stats to judge attackers.
There's a reason why Js park is a squad player at best and not in the class of those two and there's a reason C.Ronaldo is highly rated than the trio during his first stint.

Salah dribbles effectively more than mane, scores more than him, assists more than him, creates chances more than him, gives key passes more than him, make disturbing runs more than him. These are attackers work not defenders work and they're the core. Any other thing na jara.

If someone is carrying a team and is better than a supposed player and he falls shorts in those attributes, how then is he carrying the team??

Not that Salah is even a liability defensively sef.

pkasso:
Me just dey shake my head as i read that post. The things you read on here, my brother ehn. .

It's funny my brother.
I had to even recheck weda na mane he's talking of, maybe na another person wey be defender. Cos Heaven forbid I'll Stan such an attacker that have defenders' attributes than attackers'

Imagine giving evidences of how an attacker is carrying Liverpool and you're calling

Passion, ginger, clearance, interception, tackles.

Attacker, Like ATTACKER ooo.


Mehn, some people are damn funny

patrickmuf:
Mane has been underwhelming for Liverpool this season. The signing of Diaz puts pressure on him to step up his game...

Anyone who says Mane has carried Liverpool this season is just trolling. I'd say Jota has even been more important for Liverpool than Mane this season...All of the above doesn't invalidate the fact that Mane is a fantastic player and will get back in form in no time...

People no go watch football, na only stats and highlight dem go see.

How will someone consistently watch Liverpool and carry him fingers type Mane is carrying Liverpool?
Mane that is underwhelming even since last season is who is carrying Liverpool.

Some jokes write themselves

elampiro:
Stats don't tell it all. I am not in support of the arguments of who carries Liverpool. Both are good.

Now Mane wins more aerial duels by a far margin

Mane wins more tackles

Mane have more interceptions

He has more clearances

He sprints more.

It goes to show that the coach is using them according to their qualities to the team's benefit. If Mane stays up high the field alone, his attacking stats will go up, but it will cost Liverpool their midfield dominance and might be conceding more goals

Is this the job of an attacker or a defender?
I come dey think weda na van dijk you dey talk of...


Na wa for una oooo

airmark:
All these are stories that don't count to analysts.

While Mane scored and assisted to get his team from semifinal to the final and later scored the final Pk that won them the final, Abubakar was pocketed in the semifinal and got knocked out.

It's no rocket science to pick Mane, next time Abubakar will get his team to the final first to contest anything.

He won the golden boot and his advocates should rest.

Why are you talking as if this is the most important criteria? You mean no player have won best player in a competition while losing the semifinals?

A001:
Judging from the content of the attached photo, do you think Eguavoen deserves to be given some years to build a solid Super Eagles team especially if Nigeria can defeat Ghana next month and qualify for the World Cup?

It all boils down to consistent performances. Apart from late Stephen Keshi, no indigenous coach have given consistent performances for Nigeria in recent times. So we can't just give a coach time for giving sake. Moreover, one of the reasons Rohr lasted was also because he was consistent in performances(it was just like after Afcon 2019 we started seeing poor performances), else he too would have been sacked since

airmark:
I no see anything as Mane didn't sleep until the Semis as you wrongfully insinuated. From the group stage till they lifted the trophy, no match that Senegal scored in, that Mane didn't register a goal or an assist. That's how you drag your team to winning a championship and become the best.

Lol, I didn't say mane slept na.
You said, any match Senegal scored, mane either scored or assisted. While that is true, what of the match that Senegal didn't score? Was it not through penalties (in terms of KO), they qualified? Meaning Mane still needed his teammates to make him qualify right?

Is it not same thing with aboubakar? In he scored in all the whole matches right from group stage (not even assist oo, but SCORED). The only match he didn't score, they were eliminated through penalties. And guess what, he was the only one who Scored his penalty.

So I ask, if only Mane scored his penalty in penalty shootout and the rest missed, will you still say he dragged them to the next round?

We are talking performances here and Mane no reach Aboubakar half in terms of consistency. In fact no one did...

afrodoc2:
I was just addressing your 3rd place heroics point. Aboubakar might be worthy of the prize but definitely not due to his 3rd place heroics.

Oh.. Okayy. I get your point now

airmark:
I didn't even watch the losers final.

Abubakar was poor in the Semis, while Mane pushed his team to the final.

I feel this would have mattered if both where head-to-head in terms of performances and consistency in this tournament. But since it wasn't, I beg to disagree this should be the reason.

Else, it would mean let all players sleep till they reach finals before they'll show who they really are. If that's also the case, I don't see why we should blame havert.z10 for saying havertz solely won chelsea last season UCL since his only goal in the competition was what mattered most hence he's a Chelsea legend.
Abi how you see am?

afrodoc2:
To be fair 3rd place heroics is medicine after death. Your heroics matter when you still have a shot at winning the tournament.

I know 3rd place doesn't matter. In fact, personally I feel both WC and afcon should scrap it just as how UCL does. But presently, it's part of the tournament and if it is, then it's worth putting into consideration.

Aboubakar had 8 goals in this competition and 1 assist. Minus his penalty goals and he'll be still the highest goalscorer in the competition. Most of his goals are clutch goals and not just statpadded goals(either first goal, equalising or winning goal). Moreover he scored in 5 straight matches.

Just because of one blip in semifinals, then all his good work is undone? It's not fair na. After all, football is a team game not a lawn tennis and he's been the only one being consistent from day1 to the very last end. This is supposed to be award for the best player in the tournament not best player in last 4 na. And if it's the former then there's nothing that mane did to deserve it over him. Not even half.

Motivation, carrying the team, goals, clutch... Aboubakar had it all!

airmark:
He was useless when it mattered most in the Semis.

Lol, is it only semifinals that matters now?
Even the 3rd place heroics was useless too?

Ibime:
He should have won sha. His main drawback is he didn't perform in the Quarter and Semis and he had a lot of penalties and statpadding against a ten man Comorros with no goalkeeper,Ethiopia etc

The Mane POTT is still fugazi sha because if Egypt won the PKs, they would have given it to Salah.

Exactly!!..

Ibime:
They just gave him best Continental keeper

If Egypt had won, I would have riot if they gave Salah POTT over Gabaski

Lol, and the worst part is that they would have actual given Salah over Gabasky

How Vincent Aboubakar didn't win the best player's award is really concerning.

Wetin person wan do pass wetin him do for this tournament bikonu??

donstan18:
Oga go sidon and stop crying like a baby!!



See as Mendy humble you, you come dey form civil!!

Omo success is bae, I never knew this mugu will be humbled this way

Oh... Okayy. I see you couldn't bring receipts or evidence of where I insulted you nor your popsie all in the name of trolling.

I didn't know you're this immature since you can't troll me normally.

Please and please, I'll advice we just avoid each other's post/mentions. I can't go down such lane with you.

donstan18:
Mugu wey dey call me dumb dey form civil now.

Chineke kpogi oku there

Post were I call you dumb or insulted your father?

donstan18:
God punish you!!

Civil Kee you there. Mugu!

Really? Donstan Really??
Wow!!

donstan18:
Yeeeeeeeeeasssssss



Fvck haters

Fvck eediotic Jodera
Fvck his papa too

Bros, you're going overboard.
Even in trolling, let's keep things civil

Donstan18 hmmmmmm....

raumdeuter:
When will they give Balon dor and when will WC take place this year

Probably after the WC

hensben:
You are trying to make sense but e nor dey enter. You said it is my problem that Cr7 nag the young lads of not playing through him, I gave you the words of a legendary footballer you started writing essay of aftermath. So Man U should still be relying on a 37 year old when they have young players ready to go. How were those young attackers last season compared to this season. No serious club will be relying on a 37 year old player to still be their focal man, they are mostly bought for mentorship and not to be dragging shot and nagging when things are not done his way.

Did Ronaldo tell you he came to do mentorship at Man u??

Are you blaming Ronaldo who's a top dog and believes he still had it in him or the club who bought him from man city nose?

If Man u feels a 37 yr old guy can take them to titles, who will you blame? The guy or the club?

I feel your points is misplaced or you just dislike Ronaldo for who he is. Learn to be open so that you'll not see things in agenda way