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BlueRayDick:
Well, I read they are both being put up for sale. I honestly hope they are sold in time and their replacements bought on time before the window closes.

I honestly don't fancy undisciplined players irrespective of how incompetent the coach might be judged to be.

Yeah, I read they're put up on sale too, but you see that bolded, I don't think it'll happen this summer window. Like which club will be willing to sign those two on their huge wage plus give arsenal the transfer fee too, also noting we've 2weeks till the end of the window. And even if we cash in on them, how are we sure we'll get a striker, with clubs knowing fully well we'll be in a desperate position thus they might want to exploit us. These are the things I was reasoning before making my points about compromise in my previous post.
But hey, if we get it done as you hoped, then most arsenal fans will be happy, cos that's even what most arsenal fans want sef.

Honestly, I also don't fancy undisciplined players, but in this case seeing we are running out of time to sell them while getting a new striker within 2weeks, I feel we're at a disadvantage and they(laca and Auba) have all the aces.
If we had time, it would have been better

Akinbahm:
Sorry to say, if that's your intention bro u just have to erase it from mind cause u stood on rebuilding a team one should start from defense which we said NO outrightly.

What jenecyde is saying there is about team lifting trophy of competition and not league cause we all know if the last Euro happen to b a league competition with what we all watched Italy won't make Top5.

You're underestimating Italy boss

Akinbahm:
Bro, at the Italicized nobody here disagree about that in fact we all unanimously agree on that and at the bolded still affirm your second paragraph the the italicized own so I will take both 2nd and 3rd as a same point in different format.

Italy you used as an example doesn't tally with Arsenal because we are talking about the league here and not some cup competition.

Using same Italy to counter your claim, they are playing cup competition and a lot of dirty works is expected which also made Chelsea to lift the CL trophy with her blunt attack (werner havertz and co) in summary cup competition is not good enough as a yardstick to judge a player and/or a team.

Back to your whole content, is Arsenal aspiring to lift the EPL or to rebuild the team to be a contestant of Top4 if the answer is the latter definitely the midfield and attack needed to b bolster fess b4 bolstering the defence to compete for the trophy.

Consequently, our claim, stand and/or opinion is to build the midfield and attack to gel fess b4 bolstering the defence because defender are easier to integrate into squad in other words to build attack is harder compare to building defense and we cited the likes of Dortmund, Liverpool, Man city, Chelsea of Mouhinro (fess and second tenure) Barcelona and even the old Arsenal.

Exactly our point in summary.
It's only a tall dream to think that we're hoping to win the league in this our present state

BlueRayDick:
To be clear what u are saying is for the coach to have two clearly undisciplined players incorporated into the team because they are senior players and there's no senior replacement for them..... well let's see how that works out in th coming weeks

it's crazy, yeah but that's what I'm saying.
If only he'd given balogun the chance nketiah had last season, I wouldn't have bothered.
But now, relying solely on balogun and/or nketiah is recipe for disaster

He should just look for a compromise with them, tell them they're playing for arsenal and the fans, and they should put their ego aside first(like persuade and talk to them). We don't have the talent to takeover those two if they're sidelined, and it's not as if our midfielders are popping in goals sef

iamoyindamola:
He they swear for arsenal ancestors and upcoming generation cos of the embarrassment he got from the viewing center after making mouth we will disfigure Brentford

Omo, the kind confidence wey I get prior meeting Brentford eh, I no sure dat guy been get am reach me sef. Na hide I dey hide for my friends. One of my friend bin bet put arsenal win or draw, I confidently told him that arsenal will win sef, say mk him put straight win to increase odd

iamoyindamola:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CSkKynUIlO7/?utm_medium=copy_link

interpret na

Jencejyde:
On the defense wins you titles argument. I am a strong advocate of that notion.

People don't realize that a strong defense is the foundation for actually winning trophies but that defense must be helped significantly by a well drilled midfield and sharp attack.

Italy would never have won the euros if not for those two warhorses at the back helped by a superb organized midfield even though for me their attack was not the best.

That defense always kept them in games no matter the situation.

But in the case of arsenal , Arteta is missing the plot by focussing too much on the defense and not really bolstering the midfield to complement them. Even the defense imo still needs quality at RB and CD as Ben white Gabriel and Kt are the only really quality I see.

For me xhaka has no business playing in Arsenal midfield but relying solely on Esr Sambi and Saka to help Partey is just way too much in a league as competitive as the epl. I expected that by now we should have gotten Madison and Aour or two of any top midfielders out there and let xhaka elneny and William and co leave.

How we have mismanaged the last few months after ending the league in a disgraceful position is still amazing me

I think you guys are always making our point. How it's now turned as if we're talking something different Is what I clearly don't understand.

The question I want to ask is, do we have a well drilled midfield, or do we have a sharp attack presently?
We're lacking seriously in those two department, so I wonder how those two departments will help the defence significantly. Take a look at Brentford's game, once the ball is sent into the midfield, our midfielders lose both the first ball and second ball. We have 2 midfielders who aren't that experienced fully, while the most experienced is the least talented. I wonder how you wanted them to cope with that press. As for the attack, you sef see am na. Balogun was subdued drastically, martinelli got lost in the game, while Pepe (the most experienced) was doubled down.
Now with those two department lacking, why won't Mari turn into a scam? why won't the defence be under severe pressure? And you know once pressure is involved, pipe must burst one way or the other.

As for Italy, they have a very good defence, very good midfielder and their attack was good (Cf not too good, but chiesa and Insigne were very bright). So there you have it, great defence, great midfield, good attack. Why won't they win?

I just feel we're all saying same thing, but really I don't know the reason why we're having this differences to be honest.

Nb: We're not against having good defence, but wen midfield and attack is in tatters, there's nothing the team can do significantly, and that here is our point

BlueRayDick:
Firstly let me say I don't hold brief for Arteta and I don't mind whether he's sacked or not...so far the team is doing well(which of corse is not the case now)

Let me say this ; some players like to disrespect the coach especially when they feel the coach is just a few years older than them....this happens to coaches who are in their 30's coaching "senior players" approaching their 30's or already in their 30's. I personally don't support the unruly behaviors of such players. If what is being said about Auba and Laca in training is true then I don't really it's Arteta's fault..... I mean if "senior men" that are supposed to be source of inspiration to younger players are non challant about the team's plunging reputation to win Games, then what should u expect from youngsters.

Saka for one adores Auba drawing inference from the way he adores the "pepper necklace" Auba gifted him last season and how I see their chemistry on social media ; now imagine whatever nonsense Auba has going on rubs off on Saka that we all look up to, do u know we might an under 20 star player holding the club to ransom, playing when he feels he need to and even forcing his way out when we need him most?

Maybe Arteta is not a good man manager owing to how he's manage some younger players in the past, but I don't support the kind of mutiny I read is being led by our "senior men"

You have valid and solid points tho, but as jencyjyde says, "was their attitudes so sudden"?
I mean, these guys have been in arsenal camp since and played all preseason matches, how come during the match proper, their attitudes are found wanting?

My opinion is that Arteta should find a way to incorporate at least one of those two into the squad back (either through sweet talks or persuasion or anything). Balogun is not ready, and it's not as if he's some kind of halaand or mbappe yet. If balogun was coming back from a successful loan, it would have been better, but this is someone coming straight up from academy who had just played a competitive football with senior team once or twice.

Let him just have at least one of them for this season, then bin both while getting a major striker next season, cos to me, it's a big risk he's taking not starting any.
Any coach that takes such a risk already have a very good ready talent coming in, but in this case Arteta has none

Jencejyde:
Lol! Make e get small time redeem himself at least.

Small time you say? Person wey get 6months first season, get additional 1yr 2nd season, yet no improvement or progress.

Lol... Sha make we dey see

Jencejyde:
Looking at what has panned out so far in this Arteta regime, one thing is very clear to me. Arteta is ot a good player manager. He seems to be towing a Frank Lampard path where he always seems to have issues with senior players and whether he likes it or not, you need these experienced heads at their best to achieve anything.

It's questionable to be looking to buy 19 and 20 year olds all over the place when we have an academy to produce such. The focus should be quality players with good experience to merge with the exciting talents we have to create a balanced team capable of delivering results.

There is no excuse for him at this point and by now he should be facing the sack if results do not improve just by accumulating points but by a clear and consistent playing pattern that is exciting and creating and putting away enough chances to win games. 3 months from now is my verdict on him at this point in time

3 months from now? Like around November before you'll give your verdict? You're really patient Sire!!

Me, if by mid September, no progress, he should be sacked.

As for your other points, I wholly agree

kodded:
xhaka should better not sign another contract extension because as it stands arteta might not be here for long and he will be the next scaoegoat if everything goes bad again

Even this contract extension they gave him is highly unnecessary. He signed a new 4yr deal, so as it stands, I don't care if we'll extend his contract or not again. My own be say make him no they dey first team

Spy360:
I grew up knowing Arsenal as Arsene Wenger.

His approach to games.
His calmness whether we score or concede.
His animations with his jacket.
His french accent.

If Wenger was to be the coach, we would have still lost, but then he would calm us down with the POSITIVES

...and one thing is sure next, we would go on a 10game winning streak with much better intensity even if we have Chelsea and City next games.

Lol, I know na.
You no look eye see Wenger criticism let am pass

But I want to ask you a question
If you're kroenke, will you bring Wenger back to take over Arteta?

Spy360:
Our midfield should be Lokonga-Partey


Who nor get eye fit see am sef.

so why you come disagree with me when I said xhaka should be on the bench na?? That was exactly what I meant, but with xhaka, I'm afraid Arteta won't bench him when partey returns, instead na lokonga will make way

BlueRayDick:
Exactly my thought. If they don't have COVID-19, which kind illness go give u one week in advance notice

Word on the street is that Auba and Lacazzette were dropped due to their attitude in training which Arteta feels was not good enough. Then there's also the gist that the rest of the team is not happy with Arteta's decision.

The troubling thing is this; is the rest of the team comfortable with the shitty performance they've been putting out lately? Do they think Auba and Lacazette being senior men should be allowed to do as they like? Or do they actually think Arteta is not the right man for the job?

Whichever it is, obviously we are 4cked as it stands .

After our game ystdy, wen I saw later in arsenal news that both Auba and laca missed Brentford's game due to illness, that was wen I raised eyebrow. Like how will 2 senior strikers miss a match through sickness? It's very unusual.

Then seeing that they'll miss Chelsea's game which is a week away? Mehn, Arteta is just getting this thing wrong.

I dunno the kind pressure he wants to put balogun in at such a Young age

No matter what, you can't just sideline your two senior strikers. If it's one,it's understandable, but the two? Nah, personally to me, it's wrong

BlueRayDick:
The guy was not Happy with how we call out Gud Ebening after each disastrous outing.....

He just had to leave with his guy

Lol...
Solomonbrown is to Emery what Spy is to Wenger

Havertz10:
lewandoksi, messi, someone, someone, jorginho

iamoyindamola:
If you guys think Arteta tactics is baseless
Try watching viera's palace, you will have headache
It seems our legends dropped out of coaching school, they didn't learn work finish.
We are in the 21st century and this man just pack hefty skill-less black men just to bully Chelsea, they can't even put 5-6 passes together


They should revoke these clowns license

E dey surprise sef, like wetin all these people learn from Wenger sef??

Lana1:
A moment's silence for the brothers we no longer see on this thread...

Elfeminine
edoyad
Patakshit
Kevindein
Pazienza
Solomonbrown
ipopalomo

May God comfort them wherever they are

Solomonbrown follow Emery comot

melodyogonna:
Arsenal fans btw

Lana1:
I'm sure Jodera will back me up here when I say life hard for Arsenal fans right now.

They'll take those small wins anywhere they can get it

Lol... Like someone said, by the time Chelsea and Manchester city deal with us, na championship we go find ourselves

Me I don tire sef, cos even the hope that kills, we don even lose dat one

No hope at all

eph12:
I sight jodera and spy360. Is that sodick? Looks like him

You no sight me anything
Me wey dey offline since, no ignite my vex oo

adebayo201:
Bruno has more goals than all of Arsenal team including their coaches combined this season.

OptaJoe

Cc
Jodera... Good Afternoon sire

omo, I just dey see am oo. Pogba 4 assists, Bruno hat trick. Omo, una dey para sha

Fkhalifa:
Xhaka is too one dimensional
Imagine Fabregas,Rosicky,Ozil and Carzola in that position

All those ones na bosses na, so you dey go far. Even ESR in that position will give martinelli dat ball instead of Tierney

Spy360:
Please stop blaming Xhaka. Blame Arteta. Finish.

Every other thing you put up there is very much accurate.

Lol... I can't only blame Arteta. Xhaka is to one dimensional, slow, and not creative.
Seems Arteta wants to build arsenal midfield between xhaka and Partey, reason why I said he(xhaka) does not worth it.

Look at lokonga na... That's the kinda Cm we want.
I just hope he bulks up a bit so that he won't be bullied

4 Things I learned during the game

1.. Something is definitely wrong with Arteta's tactics. There's a reason why we hardly create at least 1 big chance per game and this can't be because we lack good Am. We all know that our strikers/forward aren't good aerially, instead they're good at low balls(either a pass or through pass). But Arteta has turned us into a crossing team where Tierney will spam crosses or Chambers will. Hardly do we see line breaking through pass. The first thing our midfielders does after doing their stupid possession Is to pass to the fullbacks. Burnley 2.0 vibes

2.. Hats off to lokonga and ESR. They were the only 2 bright light aside Tierney. This is the reason why we want balogun to be a back up option in order to grow into the team. Even tho ystdy was not his day, but at least, he'll know how life in premier league is through ystdys game and I hope he learns from it.

3... We lack aerial presence and a leader in defence. 2nd goal just reminded me the of Rory delap days in Stoke city and how they use such throw ins to finish us. How our defenders couldn't clear that is a world wonder. How Leno allowed himself to be bullied without putting up a fight in his goal side area is baffling

4... We might say we need Am, Cm, Rb and all, but if Arteta doesn't work on his tactics and tell Xhaka to go back to his bench instead of building our midfield around him, we'll continue to fall prey to teams who play counter press and also lack the needed mobility midfield ought to offer.

I drop my pen here.

handelex:
"Is there a club/organization/etc who are better than Arsenal at just continually destroying your will to support them? It's almost like this is some fucking test of the human spirit to see how much shit can be dumped on a group of supporters before they tap out"

Mehn, true words

Eawwal:
Guess who Xhaka passed to?
I don't know why we have to rely on KT as our only creative outlet, they keep giving him the ball to cross with none of our players in the box to connect with the ball

This is not even about relying on KT sef, diz is a Pure case of Visionless uncreative and unproductive midfielder.
No wonder we never had any big chance created!!

daveP:
Saka didn't adapt to the urgency so ill rate him lower in 2nd half impact than pepe. Tierney was the best attacking threat.


Lets not lie, even an NPFL or PSL manager that notices this areas about Arsenal will plan for either eliminating those threats by hook or crook.


Simoly put, the Arteta approach is absolutely predictable. Not even any new tweak for a new season. Stale.


Expect his sack this season. That's if he doesnt have the mumu button of the CEO like he does have Leno's!

Like our play is so stale, predictable and slow. Mehn, what a coach we have

As for the bolded, except Arteta dey give dem money for back wey we no know, else na sack things. The only mumu button those CEO know na money

daveP:
Are the players upfront to blame really? Didn't you see Pepe was double marked from start to finish? Lol. He can't beat those two built gymnasts. Forget. If we are volatile to put blame, na Arteta o.

He's the sole reason that Leno keeps being robotic. I dunno which mumu button he dey use hold Leno. I still dont.


Leno will be the most obedient GK in the world no doubt!! Chai. Raya kept budeying the ball and got two goals. Our build from back crap only made these defenders look foolish. I think the defenders that are still not far from average should not be burdened with the job of Midfielders for now. A new approach...

Before switching away from arsenal match in 2nd half, I could see some purpose in Saka game, but Pepe, mehn no hope. Even if dem double down on him, no invention, yet he's one of the senior player in that attack.

As for Leno, I can't just understand how a keeper don't know when to pass and wen to budey.. Like how is he a professional if he can't even apply wisdom in dealings?

Arteta has a whole month to implement his idea into the team during preseason, but it looks we're even worse off than last season wen we didn't have one preseason sef

The only consolation is the fans that's moving out of the stadium early. At least, more of this result and Arteta will be sacked unlike last season where the board or Arteta didn't receive any stadium pressure

kokaneprodigy:
We need more CBs.

Maybe na 80m Ben Red we go buy diz time

I don't know about you guys oo.. But to me, aside Arteta, the 2nd greatest scam is Pepe.

Man will flop from match day 1 to match day 35, then pick form in match day 36-38. Then he'll give us hope entering into the new season, and the cycle repeats itself.

He Did such on his debut season towards our fa cup win, did that again last season. Me right from when he scored double brace in the last 2 useless matches we had last season, I just confirm say na scam him be, reason why I wasn't moved by his preseason form

iamoyindamola:
The werey just they pack CB like a lunatic, you know the board won't give you funds like the big boys, the little one them give you go buy 50m cb
When the problem Gangan you ignore, majority of these managers just get luck
We are better than them walahi

Bwahahaha.
Next season, na left footed Cb him go buy for 80m