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handelex:
Arsenal with the early breakfast..

Jodera enjoy

KingAlabi:

You are in for a long season

We get Chelsea next week.
Dem fit show us love like last season

Disturb:
Sure Deodorant spray?

Disturb:
clears throat....

No too disturb yasef, na next week

Oasis007:



You missed sha. Worth every data I burned streaming the Match.

Na for you e worth every data oo

After I see lineup, I go load 2gb to watch diz match.
Mehn, I don weak

MorataFC:
Brentford Vs Arsenal
Before the game Arsenal was on top of the league, after the game Arsenal is @ the bottom of the table, that's from No1 to No 20 by the time we play them on Sunday they will find themselves either Championship league or League 1

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Arteta to Pep was what Elisha was to Elijah in the Bible

Man city's mole to ruin Arsenal.

It would take half a dozen seasons to revive this club.

My condolences to Jodera, kokaneprodigy, Roland17 and Sod09.

May the good Lord comfort you all in these trying times.

Spits [/color]

No worry

Na una go be our Renaissance. If una fit do am for us last season, surely una fit do am diz season too

adebayo201:


You're winning the league oh... Oh... Colleague

Na real col-league oo.

Oasis007:


Una Fans dey go house...... bur Season still new nau.

Oasis007:


The Match like Preseason for una Players Eyes ba?

Even dem shock!

Mehn, as I start 2nd half, as I no see improvement, I go switch back to film.

I go watch highlight later

adebayo201:
Jodera

Iamoyindamola

Good ebening sirs

KingAlabi:
Jodera how far?

Na film I don switch back so oo

Omo, na between 0 to 1 point we go get across 4 matches??

Oasis007:


You assured me of Assnal victory, wetin dey sup nau?!

I think say our top striker Auba go play na?

Omo, diz one enter me sha

Na only saka fit try save us sha

Pepe sef no wan just help person
3rd season fa

Wait..
Willian no dey bench??
Hallelujah!!!

iamoyindamola:
I knew first match day line up is always tricky, I knew before hand laca and auba might not feature buy I wasn't sure.
I dropped laca hint yesterday and auba today no one took the clue
No one knows why they were dropped

Lol... I swear, I didn't get the hint wen you dropped dem

Anyways, Auba is ill.
As for laca, I think the Roma interest is serious

DissTroy:
My earlier posts gave Kante credit. Kante is the most important midfielder for club and country, and in a quiet way, the most important player.

There's no way anyone who compares the influence and season Messi has had to Jourginho's can convince me he or she didn't drink and bath salt water during the Ebola scare.

I think originally you didn't get where I'm coming from.
Guys here have been shouting Jorginho for balon dor since. Since there's no outstanding metric to credit Jorginho, I know it can't work.

But with the possible "best midfielder in Europe" award due to his nomination, I said if he wins it, then Jorginho have a very strong point for balon dor shout(not that he'll win) unlike before where he doesn't have any valid point to hold on to

I didn't doubt that kante wasn't the most important (I've been consistent in saying kante deserves balon dor shout only if France wins euros).

iamoyindamola:
Sorry guys no one could win any of arsenal new jersey
Fully customized don't worry we try again
Btw the line up look promising

Shit!!
This would have been my line up(,except holding for Mari tho)

Suspected balogun, martinelli and Pepe will start after Auba and laca were deemed not available. But as I hear "Willian might start" and knowing who Arteta is, I just no come modify my line up.

Sha no p, we go next week

DissTroy:
When you have facts to state, the words come easy.

You are not tired - you lost. You have made more posts on this thread today than I have - that's not the sign of a tired person.

You should learn to debate. I provided indices for judging midfielders which anyone can google; broke down how Messi surpassed Jorginho even in midfield roles, and stating Kante is the better midfielder in Chelsea.


Like Sia said, another one bites the dust. Next jorginhoist?!

You see what I'm saying??

timbros:
You sha sabi shalaye

Who is going round in circles (not even one circle, you say circles )? Was I the one debating with you since? Just one question and you say I dey go around in circles.... Your shalaye get levels o.

I stopped reading the epistle up there when I see dribbles completed as one of your criteria of judging a midfielder.

I go just withdraw here. I no get this kind of strength.

Jodera over to you.

DissTroy:
If we are actually being honest, Jorginho isn't even the best midfielder at Chelsea - Kante is. Arguably Chelsea's best player. Why nobody is making a case for him or did so in 2018 beats me. Any top team would be glad to have him.


But he won it so the whataboutism and whatifs are just wishful thinking.


Club progress: Copa Del Rey. UCL Quarterfinals. Tight League race and in top three.

Individual statistics: Astronomical. And Balon is an individual award so go figure.


What's the difference copper and Cu? Semantics but the same element.

Again, he won the Copa America and not just win it but boss it in every statistics. And you can't take it away from him. There's no assumption to be had - he won it.

Singular most outstanding player in any tournament this season (Euros and Copa).

1... Kante and Jorg are nominated for UCL best midfielder. If Jorginho wins it, it automatically means he was the best midfielder at Chelsea, not kante.
This indeed was the premise of my Argument.

2... I didn't bring the whataboutism, you did. I said it was the copa America that makes Messi favorite for the balon dor but at least Jorginho fans will have a great point to hold on to if he wins best midfielder award. You said it Is false. I gave you reason why without his copa America exploits he wouldn't have been favorite, you disagreed by bringing in his 2012 win.
When I debunked it with his 2018 loss to modric, which is exactly similar to 2021, you're now bringing Whataboutism..
Come on na... Haba

I've always said that messi is the strongest favorite just cos his copa America (assuming jorg wins best midfielder). You disagreed saying without his copa America, he's still strong favorite by bringing out stats.

4... Club progress round of 16?? For a club like barca??
Don't make me laugh

If you bring stats for messi, jorg has stats too for his midfield position(deep lying playmaker). And that stats will prove that he was very very influential in their cl win and Italy's euro win..




Anyways, kante has won it, so Jorginho balon dor shout in the mud

LostMyZeal:
See how you conveniently call OLE like say he know wetin him dey do

Stop it oh

iamoyindamola:
I don't think he's a hard guy like that
He just like to misyarn

Keane no be hard guy?
Even man u players have complained about him during his playing days.
Even Ireland player complained about him during his coaching days(their NT)

Someone going hard on Vieira and getting into fights with him is definitely a hard guy oo

If I see Willian, mehn I no sure I go fit dey enthusiastic for the match again oo

iamoyindamola:
As in carragher was angry but he did it in a friendly way, he even called our board stupid in a sexy way
I bust laugh, baba they fear backlash
Roy keane with all his bully and rugged just sempe for seat, i mean those scummies legend like mad with the way he looses his mouth ehn

I just dey imagine how a whole Keane face go dey

Softwareguy21:
beware

Kai...
You don Fvc.k up na

TrebleChamp:
I wish we fit troll una, but but

Lol.. As in
Everybody don tire for dat our thread sef

donjazet:
Relax, it's just in jest. Hence the emoji's. I don't think anyone will take it personally.

Okay bro..
Got it

donjazet:
UPDATE:
5 rival invaders have been suspended from the league. sorry, the FPL league is particularly for the Chelsea fans here. Patrickmuf, larride , cityfc etc. I think oasis007 has opened a nairaland manunited fan league for you guys.
The entry to league has been closed.

Recognizable teams are; jazet blues, ninjametahuman, skimpledawg, almajiri hunter, griffon, mrphilia, jigsawkillah, thorvik, timbros, izzu, etc..
Good luck to us all and may the luckiest team win. HERE WE GO!!

I feel you didn't need to call their names here. They've been suspended, so they'll definitely know they're the one, no need coming here to start exposing their names again

I feel a simple "5 rival invaders have been suspended, sorry it's meant for Chelsea fan here" is enough to pass the information.

But just my opinion tho

Azurevermillion:
Nothing gets to you. Wow

Well, I just brought up valid argument/points

DissTroy:
Good thing you brought this up.

Messi has always been more than just goals and assists. Always. That's why his supporters get irate when Ronaldo, who's just a goalscorer, is compared to him.

Goals, assists, chances created, playmaking, dribbling... Several indices. We are talking superhuman mode here.

Lol... Nobody is saying weda Messi is the best player since 2009 or not na?
Or his 2009-2020 stats count wen considering this year's balon dor?


Also I noticed you didn't answer his question

DissTroy:
If you have to declare "I am a Messi fan", you are trying to cover up for something obvious - veiled antagonism, but want to be accepted as stating the truth. Simple reverse psychology. I didn't need to state I am a Messi fan - my choice of words made that obvious.

In the 2011/2012 season when Messi won the Balon d'Or, Barcelona didn't the the La Liga and UCL but won the Copa del Rey.
Spain also won the Euros with many outstanding Barcelona players in the squad.

It wasn't a Copa America year and he had lost the one in the previous year.

But Balon d'Or is an individual award for the most outstanding player, not team, so he won it based on his statistics.

This year he has more: Copa del Rey and Copa America.
Chart-topping goals for both competitions and already won awards to this fact.

In anything, winning the Copa America for Argentina, Copa del Rey for Barcelona and his winning statistics made the year a more rewarding one than 2011/2012.

Get with the programme, Jodera.

Lol... I had to say I'm a messi fan cos I felt your thinking was that I'm a Chelsea fan who is pushing Jorginho agenda. I just wanted to clear that air, so that you'll just say things fairly and not looking at me like a Jorginho agendist

The 2012 year was a world class beast year for messi. Barca was 2nd, cl semi final while winning copa del rey. The previous year copa america doesn't count so it's invalid.

In 2018, messi was top goalscorer in la liga as well as highest assist(same as this past season) as well as highest goalscorer in copa del rey. The reason why he won 2012 but lost out on 2018 was because barca eliminated in Q/f, while someone like modric had a good influential performance in both Madrid and WC. This year, messi was knocked out in round of 16

Now I'm not saying jorg was their best player in EPL, but if he wins UCL best midfielder, it automatically means he was very very influential in their run to cl win, very influential to their euro win and like I said, he midfielder's stat as a deep lying playmaker is impressive in euros and Cl.

2012, messi was highest goalscorer in cl, league, calendar year by a whole mile, while barca reached the semifinals in cl.

To be sincere, if messi hadn't had this copa America effort, it would have been difficult to lay a claim on that balon dor

I know it might be difficult to take, but your club progress is also a factor too not just solely individual stats


So I ask... What's the difference between 2020/2021 messi exploit and 2017/2018 messi exploit assuming messi didn't win the copa America nor had such an exploit in it?