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BlueRayDick:
You don’t get it. I’m saying Rashford plays for a top team as a number 9. If Origi was that good , he could’ve moved to any other top European club other than Loserpool where he will get regular play to show how good he is .

Maybe he doesn't wants to leave presently. Maybe, he believes that Liverpool can win the league this season and he wants to be part of that. I feel if they win the league this season, Origi might go, cos there'll be nothing motivating for him to win again, aside game time

BlueRayDick:
Baba I said Origi is a bench player. I never said loserpool’s bench is not good.

The post I quoted was asking how can you have ox , lallana and Origi on the bench. I mean he’s asking as if they are Ousmane Dembele being benched at Barca.

Well , Rashford at 22 is a top 9 for Manchester United one of the biggest clubs in Europe and u think Origi @24 that has been playing second fiddle almost everywhere will suddenly bench Rashford

OK bro,, I get you now. I think I misunderstood you.(that's your first paragraph)

Lol, your narrative about rashford being a top9 in man u, is just like asking how lingard is a first team player at man u. Liverpool are levels above man u right now and most of Liverpool's bench will make starting 11 in man utd

BlueRayDick:
There's absolutely nothing special about those players.

I mean what exactly is special about ox tgat scored 20 goals in 6years playing as a forward?

Origi would not make the starting 11 of any top club in Epl. He won't bench anybody in Tottenham, city, loserpool, Arsenal, man utd. Well maybe he can make it to Chelsea's first team now that they field youngsters with less experience tho.

Lalana? Even loserpool fans most times forget he's still a kop.

They are bench players and nothing more than that. Except you are referring to Everton, Crystal palace and Co as top clubs where they could easily make the first team

You mean Origi won't bench Rashford at Man u?. But please, I feel we should differentiate between bench and starting players. Just because Manchester city have starting 11 in bench doesn't mean all other 19 clubs will have the luxury to. But at least, the bench players when mixed with the experienced first team players will be able to churn out results also. Check all across Europe and EPL ( aside Man city) and re-compare weda their bench isn't good enough

Spy360:
Don't even attempt to change your view for any reason.

The point wasn't that these were starters, but benchers. A bench comprising of [/b]Origi, Ox, Lallana, and Shakiri[b] would be the envy of most top clubs in top leagues. This is fact.

But I will attribute Liverpool's dominance to Klopp's tactics. He has managed to instill a level of performance in his squad that as long as his key men are available on each match day, they will likely win. It will take a drastic change in personel to actual break it. This is similar to Man City of two seasons ago.

the bolded is fact. Their starting 11 is good enough, but that doesn't mean their bench is bad.

BlueRayDick:
We saw how origi fared against man utd. He’s nowhere near what Sallah brings to the team.

Even klopp would never ever wish to see a front three of origi, lallana and shakiri and a CB pairing of Lovren + Gomes. He will do every juju to avoid this in a league match. All those Lallana and co will only complement what the first team has done in the opening minutes.

The problem is most people know City are being plagued by injury hence their current woes, but somehow believe Loserpool will fare well even when their major key players are out. I sincerely doubt that .

Just look at that yesterday match, that Angelino was so so poor at left back. That was his first Epl start and Sallah nearly kill am . In fact most of the goals were from his angle. Imagine zinchencko being fit in that game.

Until loserpool gets to game 36 and they have at least 9 points gap between them and their closest title contender, I won’t believe they will win the league

Yes, that's why if you read my previous post, I said aside front 3 and van dijk missing, any other can be manageable. That their midfield can substituted with any of the bench players. Arnold and Robertson can be substituted also(tho threat might reduce), and van dijk partner can be substituted. But those front 3 and van dijk... Hmmm. Any kpim, Liverpool might be in trouble. And the good news(for them) is that those 3 hardly go injury

iamoyindamola:
lol...I see them as squad players, wait sef where is shakiri

Yeah. They're squad players who can fit in and change game depending on tactics. Lallana against man u changed the game aside the goal he scored. Those guys on d bench aren't below par players. Origi sef needs no introduction. Lol.

Shaqiri... E be like say him don dey friend klopp daughter. The way klopp alienate am eh

iamoyindamola:
LFC don't have bench, is it origi, lalana or ox that can change game

lol....
Surprisingly and ironically, you just called people who can change game.

BlueRayDick:
Don’t be so sure. People said more than this last season. Man city is only being dealt with by injury.

Loserpool have not experienced any major injury crisis that will see 2 to 3 of their players out in a single match.

Yesterday only 1 out of the regular back line of man city played. Even their keeper was out. Now imagine a loserpool without Van Djik, Matip and Robertson and maybe Mane out injured in 3 straight matches. I’m sure even klopp will bemoan such hard luck.

If loserpool can do without major injuries, then maybe they can win the league. Sallah’s absence alone in that man utd game rattled dem and they nearly bowed to pressure

Very fair point.
But I just feel is only if any of their front 3 is injured or van dijk is injured, then they might struggle. But aside that, the bench can sort out the other areas. Also kudos to their medical staff, those guys hardly have injuries or very long lay offs

LegoxMetahuman:
they will probably bottle it again

This Liverpool I'm seeing won't bottle this league. As long as they've given Man city that gap, the league is theirs. You can bookmark diz.

Itsmedozie:
are you a Garner?

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The only Garner is know, is James Garner, a scummite.
But I'm a Gunner.

blowjohn:
It was 3 not 4

Ehen, if it's 3, I for gree but not 4 for one match o

hisexcellency34:
CR7 once scored four free kicks in one match

Bros bros!!! Easy abeg

Itsmedozie:
is it true.

we're interested in the tweets before and after that one you captured. Those are the ones that's true(Emery out)

PapalsBull:
Say God just dey test dem (sanhelli and kroenke) make him see how dem go react .

Omo, if na to fail the test, make dem fail am o.

BlueRayDick:

Maybe dem.wan seek their pastor counsel before they appoint new person.

E better be o. I no wan hear say pastor advice dem mk dem no sack Emery

BlueRayDick:
Why am I not seeing this already? These people should do fast abeg

As in eh, the way I dey refresh sport dailies ehn. Sha I believe say dem sanhelli and kroenke wan go church come back

iamoyindamola:
Abi oo, at this moment I won't mind Tony pulis that defence is fucking useless

Tony pulis?? Lol.
Me I'm still saying let's give ljumberg this chance on an interim basis till end of season. He knows the players well, and he plays attractive footie. While we look for a better coach. This Enrique no be am at all o

PapalsBull:
Guys, how do you see Lius Enrique?

https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/09/arsenal-hold-talks-luis-enrique-replace-unai-emery-11072452/?ito=newsnow-feed

Is this not frying pan to fire? Which one is Luis Enrique again?

Spy360:
Your comparison with Cazorla is too harsh. Even Ceballos will struggle to be him.

Guen is not a Cazorla type of CM. He is more like Vieira, though no where at par.

Fact is, SO FAR he is the best we've got.

I'm not comparing guen or ceballos to Caz. Just saying ceballos has a traits to play dat role like Caz. Guen issa different ball game altogether

kokaneprodigy:
I’m a hypocrite sha, see me wailing after staking Leicester to win on 2 odds.

At least I can use the money to mop my tears while I wail.

Omo, you smart.
I no dey bet, but if I dey bet, nothing sure me reach today's match

kokaneprodigy:
If Xhaka had played he would have been scapegoated, everyone is seeing Guen for the fraud he is now.

This is our best midfielder you're calling a fraud o

iamoyindamola:
Na true oo we never play city

but but but ....
Man city is passing us with 1point

Lana1:
The way solomonGrundy, Kevindein, Pazienza and main man FKhalifa take follow Pataki disappear from this thread ehn....nawa o!

You no go blame dem. Nairaland don crash for their phone. Dem no fit login

iPopAlomo:
Grinders football everyone...

1 shot on target...

I dey wait for man city vs Arsenal
59 shots to ½ shot

iamoyindamola:
One English scholar said we don't understand the word grinding, till date he's still looking for the perfect definition

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You funny walahi. You always crack me up

iamoyindamola:
bros unless the fans in England forced the board like they did with wengay Emery is not going

And all those empty seats against wolves is what bro? If dem lash us like 4-0 I go see how the fans won't force d board. Go across various forums and arsenal blog and you'll notice that it's only Emery's family, and friends fit support am. Aside dat, nobody dey support Emery again unlike during Wenger where the fans are divided

BlueRayDick:
I actually wish we win this match. I don't really enjoy this Emery's dispensation, but I don't just fancy us losing again to Leicester after that our last outing against them. As in, even the season they won the league we handed them defeat with less stress.

let's forget last season biko. It's better we suffer the short term loss and long term gain than otherwise. If we're happy only this week cos we beat Leicester, we might continue wailing throughout the coming weeks. Me I'm tired of wailing o. After all, we even beat dem too last season. Let dem beat us so dat dey will sack diz man, 2nd leg and other legs dey for revenge

iamoyindamola:
Even work rate guen doesn't have, ceballos always track back

. At least, that's the only thing I know that guen can try to edge ceballos, so let's give him that. Cos aside that, I don't see how guen would edge ceballos in anything

Spy360:
That's the point. In a season where others have been mediocre for whatever reason- tactics or off position, Guendouzi has been outstanding.

Lol, not outstanding. Just consistently average. Others are just below par

Spy360:
Work rate alone could mean a lot.

Don't get it twisted. Guen is not the most talented midfielder, but his performance against that of others who have not been performing is what gives him the edge. Obviously, when or if others peak, they surely would be preferred.

Torriera and Ceballos could be better players, but over the course of the season Guen has been the best performer.

I beg to differ. Work rate without end product is almost pointless. I hardly see him use his work rate to intercept ball. He doesn't push ball forward. Yes, he hardly gets dispossessed, but that's because most of his passes aren't threatening. Remember cazola in that role and I'm seeing ceballos to give us a glimpse of that. Guen can only be useful to see out games, but for now he's to limited for a top club.

iamoyindamola:
This man should just go I don't know what the board are waiting for. We are drifting apart just look at Chelsea at the moment

Even Norwich wey lose against Watford fit beat us now
If Liverpool kids can get a draw against us, then any body can beat us now o

Spy360:
Nice points you raised about players not playing the roles.

Normally I'd take Torriera in DM over Guendouzi, but being our best midfielder so far, I'd keep him in the team, in the CM role like you mentioned.

He is not competing with Ceballos as he is less an attacking player. Actually he should be competing with Xhaka, but hell.

My preferred midfield is...
Guendouzi, Torriera and Ozil.

I would not mind Ceballos, if Ozil doesn't fit in.

In a fully fit Squad, ceballos over guen. Aside work rate(which by guen also have), what does guen has over ceballos?