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Spy360:
Though I am a bit shocked Pochentino got the boot, but during the years he spent with Wenger, Wenger actually did better ibvthe sense that he won FA cups which Pochentino couldn't achieve even after Wenger left.

Honestly, I had the belief that with the way he was progressing Pochentino would definitely win a trophy within the season, but here we are...

Now to the logic you spoke of, obviously both declined, howbeit that Pochentino's was just this/one season and wasn't really given the chance to redeem himself. Wenger had that chance and didn't take it so fans were right to castigate him.

[/b]My point here is Wenger won trophies both in his early and late years. Pochentino didn't win anything. While it's justifiable castigating Wenger for his decline, the fact remains that he was more achieving than Pochentino irrespective of how much the later is adored.[b]

Nobody argue that pochetinno is greater than Wenger. In fact, it'll be difficult for pochetinno to lace Wenger's boot. What most people are castigating Wenger for is his latter years. His early years was one of the best in premier league, so he can't be castigated then.
Poch greatest undoing is just him not having any trophy. Aside that, he's a very good modern coach

Fkhalifa:
I understand, its not easy to switch, I don't find it easy either..
On Nuno,
Bro it doesn't matter o, poch came from Southampton and now he made spurs a UCL team and finalist..
Nuno strikes me as a good manager, it isn't fluke he is taking points from the top6, the big latest was that of Etihad, he spots talent and instills fearlessness into his boys, now they're in Europa..

Its risky though, but for me, there's chance he'll do well in a financially backed top side.

Yeah, he's good but his style of play isn't sustainable for a top club that's why I'm afraid. If he enters a top club and most team he comes against parks d bus, how will he cope? That's why I'm not into any nuno bandwagon

Spy360:
Read what you emboldened. Wenger did achieve more than Pochentino yet was castigated.

Of course. Wenger was way in the league before pochettino. Wenger was on a decline and pochetinno was on a rise. Logically, it's Wenger that suppose to be castigated, not poch

iamoyindamola:
I'm moving to whl, I kuku love the new stadium and playing style but I prefer city at the moment. Guardiola made me love fast football with intelligent players not Jerry curl romancing ball or xhaka doing anywhere belle face.
[/b]Today now I was greeted with pictures instead of these boys to stay off camera and train hard[b].

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Na d coach bro. You no fit do diz kain nonsense in the back of bad results with certain coaches. We just need to change coach and bring strong willed coach, I swear most of their mentality go change.
Look at Manchester city, dey don't do such nonsense occasionally. Even Mendy that's their joker, guardiola don warn am tire.
Mehn, me I'm tired for this club sha

Fkhalifa:

But na you talk say you no dey use heart watch Arsenal again, na gradual things na, your heart go soon find succour elsewhere..

This Arsenal side no dey send, I saw Ozil,Sokratis and Holding all laughing and in jovial mood, fans dey fight war here and there..

The atmosphere at the Emirates is too cool for my liking, we need a Lion terrorist like Simone or even that [/b]wolves coacn Nuno[b].

yes na. E better make I no get any fc club or I switch sports than to support anoda club. I don try am b4, I no wetin I dey talk...e no easy to easily like anoda club esp wen you dey dat club from birth

At bolded. I know we need a change, but be careful what you wish for.
Pity us na, you wan port go Liverpool and you wan still give us Nuno

iamoyindamola:
I Dan hear

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You na Man na. No lele for your side

Spy360:
He was able to lead a side that had no notable big name signing and turned them to challengers while playing decent footie. [/b]But Wenger did much more yet was castigated.[b]

The fact that he hasn't won anything will always be a draw back.

Wenger wasn't castigated cos he did much more. Wenger was castigated cos he was undoing all the good works he did and he was regressing year in year out at the detriment of the club

iamoyindamola:
same thing in UCL, you use young players cos of easy fixtures.
Wengay have done all these in past years bros
[/b]Cup is cup[b]

. Bros bros.
Na only you fit talk this one o. I'm not sure person go agree with you.

Fkhalifa:
You know all this about Liverpool and Klopp and you still don't want to join me at Anfield

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Me wey be wan join man city 2011, wen dey buy nasri Silva balotelli and others. Even tho they carried league that season (2011/2012), I still no follow dem cos my heart no just dey there...I'll be watching their match, but body no go dey sweet me. Lol. I just have to go back to arsenal after match day 3.
E con be Liverpool?
No oo...just dey there only you o.
It's either arsenal or no other club for me o

BlueRayDick:
U just don't want to gree. Those I mentioned, shey changing of fortune dem do na by mouth?

Mourinho with show u his medals, Ranieri will show u his own and the klopp u mentioned will sho his champions league medal as well.

You think in 10 years time spurs fans will give a shiiit about poch's time at bottleham? No! Why? Because he's one of their underachieving coaches

lol... No p bro
Let's disagree to agree. Tho your last point is valid

iamoyindamola:
He's not special biko from January reality will set in again.
It's easier to play in cups than league you can ask Mr wengay that won the FA cup 3 in 4 outing.
Yet his team couldn't compete in EPL

please I want to ask...are you somehow categorizing fa cups with UCL?
Cos it's way way easier to win fa cup and league cup than UCL. At least in d early matches you can use your team b to play these small clubs, but you dare not try it in UCL.
Mind you, klopp won UCL o, not fa cup. 10 straight fa cup is far more inferior than 1 UCL o

BlueRayDick:
[/b]I don't really understand you at all. In one breath you are saying they should've won a cup and in another breath you are saying he changed their fortune. How exactly?[b]

If you are talking about changing a club's fortune, you have Mourinho's first stint at Chelsea as a clear example. Chelsea had not won the epl/premiership/division one cup(whatever they called it in the past) for 50 years. Mourinho came on board and turned them to champions. Ever since then, they've never looked back. Even when they suffer a slip a year or two, they set their house in order and win or two cups again here and there. That is why they have a champions league and we don't have any.

Leicester's fortune under Ranieri was also.changed, they won the league. Even when they faltered afterwards, they hard to let go the coaches and appoint other ones just to build on that success, which Roger's is doing presently.

You see, then reason I made that Wenger statement is; the board knows Wenger will either make top 4 or win us a domestic cup ( with the exception of his last season at the Emirates), still they sacked him. Now think about a poch that doesn't guarantee you any cup whatsoever, may not even make top 4 going by his recent run of results.....Why should the club gamble to sign him?

We know Mr. Good Ebening still had couple of Europa cup and French league and league cup to his name before gambling on him, but this poch me I no just support am at all.

what I meant was that, if only they improved on their success in finishing 3rd or 2nd, perhaps dey would have won a trophy. Levy was so contented with top4 and d money accrued from it...that's what I meant.
Mou changed the fortune of Chelsea, fine and good. He was a great coach then also, but we all know he was helped by Abramovich in assembling stars, something which poch wasn't afforded. Ranieri and klopp are someone whom I'll totally agree changed the fortune of clubs with trophy to boot.
Poch made Tottenham stock rose, nobody can dispute that. He made a lot of improvements in that club. Even tho they might not win a trophy, but he's set a strong foundation for the next gaffer to build on

iamoyindamola:
Font let anyone fool you
Klopp won UCL cos it's a cup not a league, let's see how may will look like and he's been lucky at the moment no injuries and var decisions are going his way.
Klopp has bottled the league and Europa before so he is not special

Klopp not special? If klopp isn't special, then I don't know who is tbh. Var have been inconsistent this season in EPL. Yes there are some games var favored dem, but also against Aston Villa, var was against them... yet dey still won.
And if it's about winning the ucl, you can't write him off cos it's a cup.. That's a special type of cup, and that's why nobody have won it back to back aside Zidane.
Now let's see how special klopp is..
1..Liverpool were so down finishing 7th or 8th wen he met dem. Their title winning run the previous year was an anomaly just like Leicester of 2015 (abi 2016), he turned average joes to great Stars.
2...in this crazy world of spending, he just spent highly on 2 people (gk and df) who not only improve d team, but massively improved the team. That tells you d kind of special coach he is.
3.. You talk of him bottling the league with 96points. I wouldn't tag that as bottling of league but of how good man city were. And I mean, very good. And that's why he's going for it again. Only special coaches do such. Most coach would have fizzled off after the height of last season, but he's even going a step further by doing a 100% winning streak.
4..Injuries are part of game and maintaining and guiding a player against injury is not all what most clubs have. If you notice, most of their players hardly go to injury... That tells you the kind of strong medical system they have, which is very needed in football. I mean, since d introduction of their front 3, how many times have dey not played together.
5...talk about the work ethic and d team spirit of Liverpool and his Dortmund days, and you'll see how great d manager was. Both teams was also ran b4 his arrival, now, both teams are/were conquerors.

Mehn, no talk this thing about klopp not been special outside o...even rival fans go beat you sef

Fkhalifa:
If miracle can happen, then Klopp or Simeone, they're the two I'm 90% sure they'll turn us around. Or any coach in their mould, who do not require much money to succeed, spot talented, energetic and instil discipline and hard work.

I don't fall into the bandwagon of Zidane,Rodgers et Al, they may turn out to be scam, Emery had a juicy CV.

Correct. I remember praying then Wenger should just step down wen klopp was free, but our Wenger no gree. He was d only person I trusted cos of the attributes you mentioned. Simeone might turn us to a park d bus club which personally I don't like, but with what our Emery is dishing us every week, then I might consider Simeone. I see Rodgers as someone who will just maintain us at top4 levels, nothing more, but I might be wrong tho. I feel he improved himself in Scotland. Zidane and dem allegri and et al...I no do

BlueRayDick:
[/b]If arsenal is a small club like Tottenham that sees making top 4 as a feat, then Arsene Wenger should be the man at our London Conley training centre preparing players for the Southampton match[b]. Poch for all his so called tactical prowess cannot chang the fortune of Bottleham Fc, so why should arsenal management think he will take us higher that Good Ebening level?

Sorry to say and to ask...
Why do you think Wenger was sacked? Of course, he didn't make top4. If he made like 3rd in his final season, no matter all the fans wailings, we all know he'll be the one preparing the boys for Southampton clash.
That's how low Wenger and kroenke turned this our club to.
In case you've forgotten, lemme refresh you a bit...we were happily a top4 club. As in we(Wenger) see top4 as trophy.

BlueRayDick:
If arsenal is a small club like Tottenham that sees making top 4 as a feat, then Arsene Wenger should be the man at our London Conley training centre preparing players for the Southampton match. Poch for all his so called tactical prowess cannot chang the fortune of Bottleham Fc, so why should arsenal management think he will take us higher that Good Ebening level?

well, you can't say he didn't change the fortune of Tottenham. They bottled- yes. Should they have one at least one cup- yes. But saying he didn't change their fortune or made dem one of the most feared in England is you undermining his achievement. Since his arrival, I think it's only his first season dey missed out on top 4, that's if they even missed it sef. He should have been given money to improve on the squad depth, but no, levy is like our stingy kroenke. Once they see money from top 4, all is well, they don't care.
Most of his signings also were shrewd signing and we all know they prioritize league top 4 over league cup.
I remember wen Rose threatened to leave spurs the season we won fa cup against Chelsea in final. Chelsea played s/f with them. And Rose said, they played Chelsea well, but want weakened him was when they need to introduce players from bench to help the game, Chelsea bench looks stronger and the players they where subbing in could change games, but wen he looked at theirs, he just gave up. No match winning player there.
Me, I won't write off Poch sha

BlueRayDick:
Before u hype poch to be hired and come back to Harshtag #PochOut, kindly see his cv below.

If you look at his squad depth and how they consistently make top4, you'll know it's not easy to make top4 and carry additional trophy to it with such depth.
Not celebrating top4, but with the way their squad was over the years and their overachievement in d league, I feel a league cup or fa cup normally pass dem by cos of d lack of quality of their bench

Fkhalifa:
We wanted a coach who has managed at top level and won trophies, we got Emery and we were excited...
Pochettino, we have fans who will question his credibility and judge him on trophies..

For me, though not a first choice, I wouldn't mind him, I like that he understands modern football,good at building mental strenght and loves power,pace and intensive football

Its a matter of time trophies start coming in for him like klopp.

Me too, personally, I would want him o, esp since he plays attractive football and intensive football as you said.

So if I may ask, who's your first choice?

iamoyindamola:
he is a spurs, the rivalry is still very hot. I won't advise such move for arsenal or pochettino.
Ex manager and players that was involved between these 2 teams had a bitter experience only Campbell survived but till date he's a fvcking Judas ask unforgiving spurs fans.
So bros I don't pray or wish it's happen because blood is thicker than water,let's not forget these 2vare MANAGING each other before WW return to North London

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I'm just seeing that poch has been sacked, fvck it disregard the nonsense I wrote earlier let sign the man and send that useless ebening to spain

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But seriously, what you really said before the modification is really really true. Poch is like a god there among the fans and it'll be heartbreaking for them to see him manage their top bitter rivals. I think personally, he might not come here after thinking it through. After all, he once said he can't coach barca again cos of his affiliation with espanyol. He might go tp man u sha or any other club except arsenal.

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So all those sermon wey you been dey preach, na because you think say dem never sack am ba?

Would appointing Pochettino be a wise choice?
Preferably, I feel I'll accept him.
What's your opinion guys?

iamoyindamola:
wetin man go do na Emery cause am

Abi o

iamoyindamola:
exactly but what I will never do is jump from one club to another after telling us to wait till October

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Most times eh, I dey like your snide remarks.
E get person wey we go deliver diz your mail to?

johnjunior39:
Watching this present team play games is hazardous

that's why I was hoping we lose against Leicester so dat dey will sack diz man, but it seems d board sef like d man. So me, I can't continue wishing my team badluck, and I can't continue wailing and shouting every match day, weda we win, draw or lose( Wenger own sef no be every match day I dey wail), so now, I'll just dey sideline dey watch, no emotions attached, till dey sack diz man.

johnjunior39:
When you look at Xhaka's performance for country. You ask yourself what is wrong ?
Not putting away his bad days but nobody is performing in arsenal. It's catastrophic that you have strikers like laca and aub yet the go games without scoring.
Now , for me our tactics have never been awesome lately. We make work so easy for opponents. You can have one channel of creativity (ozil) that is not even a physical kind of player and want miracle to happen.
Liverpool is all about the front three and wingbacks for creating goals and scoring, City from midfield to attack and wingbacks also.
We really need to change our playing system if we want to make something out of it

First thing first, we must have an already set system, then if it's not working, we can think of changing it for the better. But our Emery no get system, wetin you wan change wen you no get? Lolzz
When you look at our players, you wonder weda they actually train sef, or what tactics is been taught in training that they want to implement in d pitch...nothing.
How we're still 6th with such a form sef dey surprise me. We suppose dey 16th.

Fkhalifa:
We have some really skillful players but pace is a non negotiable trait in EPL. If what we see in matches is something to go by, Emery is clearly not making players work on their athleticism in the training. Because why run when we can just pass sideways and backwards. And Emery has said it many times, team is playing tactically how he wants and that is what he wants, to pass sideways and backwards.

Apart from Auba and Laca, every other player has absolutely abysmal shooting power and accuracy. Especially the midfield players, their shooting is Ugh. We see many teams in EPL frequently scoring goals from distance. At least we see some attempts that provide some momentary morale boost, but at Arsenal, we hardly see anyone even attempt a shot from distance. We need to take more chances like that. We can’t walk the ball to the goal every time. That makes us too predictable.

Once in a while, have Luiz, or Sokratis, or Holding take the ball to the final third providing one additional player for the opposition to deal with and smack a shot from distance. We need that kind of mentality, to mix it up, and not play like we are following a recipebook. Have Tierney or Bellerin, cut inside, instead of taking the wide wing, and mix up opposition markers. But I don’t think this sort of play falls under Goodebeningball. I haven’t seen so imaginatively dead as Emery to be honest.

Auba and Laca should work on ball playing skills and passing. Their shooting department is good, but they severely lack ball playing skills. Working on first touches, hold up play, headers, crosses, etc.

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This is another pressing issue that's getting me disturbed, Football is about goals and a good team should have several means of achieving that.
At Arsenal the culture from pa Wenger days till Mr good ebening's time is that we like always want to walk the ball in the net, score sexy neat passes goals that'll trend on social media.

it's like they don't train shooting.Iwobi was axed for his bad shootings, now pepe doesn't seem to have power to his shots

Kolasinac can be too predictable, he waits to be fed on the run so he can square play a tap in for Auba, he does that again and again, what happens to pulling the trigger atimes?

Belllerin did so at Leicester, his run paved way for laca, but he choose to fire it at goal and that's nice.

Ozil always want to pass the ball to net, Mesut should be bending the R2goals, Bernardo Silva's goal at Liverpool, I trust mesut to try and be looking for a final pass, or Madison's goal, Ozil will soft the ball and begin another cycle of pass me I pass you.

As much as Ramsey isn't the fans favorite, he was very good at this, Even Sanchez tries his luck from anywhere on the pitch

Could this be the reason why we have few shots on goal?

This team needs thorough and proper coaching, the training ground in london Colney looks like a play ground.

Please, I'm not saying we don't shoot nor score goals aside from passing it to the net, but the way we approach goals most times is so same and predictable.. Also, there's no where in my post I imply Ozil or other big names loved by fans I mentioned should be blamed.

Both the first and second of this post make sense die. No truer words than this. Even under Wenger, we dey play sexy balls and sometimes dey lose, but we'll get d consolation say at least we play sexy ball. Even outside the box goals we dey score some times and the goals is spread among allover the players. In Wenger's last good season, if Sanchez no score, Walcott go score, if Walcott no score, cazorla will, if not Ramsey, if not giroud, and etc like that. This is the 12th round of the season, yet, midfield have only one goal(Toreira) and defence have like 4 goals. Even the attack that have majority of our goals is just 1 person. Laca was injured for months yet he is our 2nd highest goal scorer I think with luiz and the 3rd have one goal which sef is a penalty. If to say we dey park bus sef, e for better, at least we for no dey concede, but mehn... I don tire sha.
Emery just wan finish person.

Fkhalifa:
The main problems in this area is the lack of a physically powerful,energetic leader as a DM.

Look at Liverpool, Man City any Leicester who are blessed with three gems who are the link between the back four and the other players.

Neither Torreria not Dhaka are up to this task, and while Chambers did a good job as a DM for Fulham I doubt it he is good enough at a higher level.If we had a quality DM like Ndidti,we could adopt a 4-3-3 system which is favoured by the top four in the PL and use the likes of Guendouzi and Willock as box to box midfielders which would provide energy and drive to support the front three who have got to work just as hard on their defensive capabilities as they do in attack.

The front three of Liverpool and Man City work their socks off to regain possession something which is lacking in Auba and Pepe but is their in Martinelli. In essence, to be successful in today’s game, everyone has to bust a gut if the team is going to be successful.In such a set up I’m afraid there is no room for a number of our midfielders such as Ozil,Ceballos, Torreria and Xhaka .We have decent full backs in Bellerin and Tierney to fit into such a system and only need one quality CB to partner Saliba next season to make it work.

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Get in any manager who can reason like the above post, the bolded is a major concern.

This is correct. I think I'll find it difficult to see any of our midfielders stake a claim in Liverpool first team. Not because they're not good enough, but I think cos dey hardly works their socks off. Just ceballos and maybe torreira.

Spy360:
The formation is actually what Liverpool use.
Mane........... Firmino .......... Salah
Wijnaldum... Fabinho.. Henderson
Roberts.... VVD .... Lovren... Arnold
...................... Alison .......................

There is no no10, all midfielders are defensive but with ability for long pass. Arnold and Roberts push up, Wijnaldum and Henderson spread wide to cover them, Mane and Salah open up and join Firmino putting pressure on opposition defenders. Notice that both Mane and Salah are inverted which allows them to have a direct shot at goal with an unmarked foot.

The beauty here is that the system has been so perfected by the players that it seems orchestrated and easy to watch.

Auba........... Laca........... Pepe
Xhaka........ Torriera ...... Guen
Tierney.. Luiz.... Cham .Bellerin
.................... Leno......................

This your midfield no be am.
As in eh, e tire me o

Xhaka that is lazy, under pressure he succumbs and can't dribble his way out, will play what fabinho or wijnaldum plays? Guen that is slow in thought process might actually be taught that but not xhaka abeg. In fact, that midfield go cast everything.
Going forward, lacazette isnt a known dribbler same as Auba. Only Pepe(if he's improved upon or he brings in ligue 1 form). In fact, this present crop of players, klopp go still change like 3-4 of the players sef from the lineup

Spy360:
Do you think he can beat the ultimatum?

Don't worry. It's a matter of time. I suspect the players even want him out which suggest their poor display. The likes of Torriera, Mustafi, Ozil etc.

Well, I hope he doesn't beat the ultimatum o. We'll lose a lot of stars in our team if he eventually stays till d end of season

Roland17:
There is no assurance Emery win 5/6 of these games and this is based off what we have seen thus far. He may not even see out the 6 games if results from the first 3/4 don’t go accordingly.
I was worried this is what the board will do. Even though I would have loved to hear them say he is fired, I am glad they have reacted to the noise/ heat from the fans about Emery, rather than pretend everything is fine. I hope the fans continue to be open about the situation and stay away from games to force a decision.

Emery needs to go now, plain and simple!!!!!

Emery needs to go. Our style of play is so so pathetic. How the board is even giving him ultimatum with such a very poor style of play is even surprising. I expected the sack after Leicester's game but since they increased the deadline, I'll wait to see how it pans out. I can't continue to wish my arsenal to lose(so as they sack d man). I'll just hope for the best, but the garbage football we're playing is even more frustrating

BlueRayDick:
The board sha want to embrace mediocrity by fire by force.

A close look at Arsenal’s next 6 matches shows they just want to create an easy way out for him. They deliberately made it exactly 6 match ultimatum . They use wisdom commot man city game

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