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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera2: 8:54pm On Apr 19, 2023
dammywapes:
How many seasons do you think a new coach should be given to win the league for a top 4 team ? Upper summer kna arsenal spend pass o
Any top 4 team in the wilderness needs to make top 4 first before thinking of league. Check out all the patterns of previous years it happens with the only anomaly being Leicester.

Even Man city when newly bought by Arabs didn't start competing for league. They broke into the top 4 first before fully competing for their first league in 2012(4 yrs after Arab takeover)

Just dey play..
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera2: 8:49pm On Apr 19, 2023
dammywapes:
wetin u dey talk ? Who dey talk small team ? Small team chances of winning the league is slim. Make eth no compete for league in the next 2 seasons then cos wetin him wan say b him problem
You don't know that a top 4 team in the wilderness should at least make top 4 first before thinking of competing for league?

When Liverpool was In the wilderness, Klopp have to use his first two seasons to make top 4 consecutively before thinking of league.

We have not made top 4 since Wenger's era. Even Arteta's 2½ season as a coach, he couldn't make top 4 but suddenly, you expect him to start competing for league this season because....?

You think competing for league is child's play especially without stability?

Dey play.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 8:35am On Apr 19, 2023
daveP:


1st of all, using Haaland in this is not even close an example. Does he do anything else asides his 9 role?

Let's be factual. We know he inverted. Analysis this season proves his primary duty is lacking compared to his inverted duties which he flourishes in. That doesn't make him a natural LB. That's why every commentator acknowledges that fact that Tierney is a natural LB as he does much better defending than Zinch. This is not news.


That only 2 were nominees just shows how odd this TOTs is, with all those dangerous omission.


Lb on paper
Inverted player in reality

Same for Trent.
Lol... He's Lb (whether inverted or not).

All these inverted, outverted, insider or outsider is just coach's tactics which varies.

Even against West Ham, Tierney still played the inverted role(drifting inside to orchestrate play). Shouldn't that tell you it's coach's tactics?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 8:30am On Apr 19, 2023
daveP:


I understand the winning mentality totally. But when you're not at your best, that alone impacts whatever plans you have. Osimhen absence alone made Napoli look like relegation team despite having same setup. You can't win all. You cant do that all season with a squad without a depth like City or Madrid. So it is just common sense. Yes we are top but we cant pretend injuries haven't affected our stride.


How the manager responds to such in emergency situations, adaptability and etc will reflect his maturity.


Once again, despite all of that, individual mistakes cost us 4 points in 2 games. One was foolishness by our manager. Lacking Respect for the person of Salah. And then carelessness in Westham game.


It makes it look like we can never handle pressure off the ball, which is shocking considering how we easily recover possession early on in the season. So what is happening.?


Fatigue definitely.
Well, you made valid points.
I don't think it's fatigue tho. Hopefully, we'll get back to form. We need to

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera2: 8:28am On Apr 19, 2023
odizeey:


Is that why you are in the same level with West Ham? cheesy
if you see it that way, who am I to change your mind? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 8:26am On Apr 19, 2023
Android17:
It is not because you need City to drop points. When it was in your hands, it did not matter if City won all their points.

Follow.
The.
Logic.
Bro.
let's get this straight

If I win all my matches, would I win the league or not?

I just need a simple yes or no biko!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 8:25am On Apr 19, 2023
camri:
What happened to martinelli left foot? have never seen him cross with it. He only cuts to the right and spins the ball nonchalantly or cuts back and cross. Instead of moving in a straight line and making accurate cross. By so doing, he's killing the rhythm of the attack and causing the opposing side to return in time to defend
Well, he's inswinging crosses aren't that bad sha and it caused our 2nd goal against West Ham
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 8:24am On Apr 19, 2023
Drone17:

I accept you point.

But do you think we would have drawn that game if Saliba was present?
High chances are we won't but then we would never know.

The only big issue I have with Holding is his penchant for budeying the ball under any small pressure.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera2: 5:55pm On Apr 18, 2023
odizeey:

Baba just equated his club with Westham and Leicester cheesy cheesy
My club haven't made top 4 for the past how many years now(close to 5yrs if I'm not mistaken) with the closest being last season.

But all of a sudden I'm to believe it shouldn't be a surprise that we're title challengers this season because my coach have being at the helm for up to 2 seasons or more.

O wrong nau!!! embarassed

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 4:35pm On Apr 18, 2023
iamoyindamola:
angry angry
Same thing with mine but I swapped Martinelli with Rashford

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera2: 3:56pm On Apr 18, 2023
afrodoc2:



God no go shame us o.
Amen oo embarassed
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 2:16pm On Apr 18, 2023
Drone17:

There's a way it affects especially in the decision making process. A wrong decision with movement can make another player to make a error. So while he is not the direct person involved, his poor decision or movement may have led to the error. Also the positive energy or calming influence a player brings may mean winning the three points like in the case of Zinchenko Vs Tierney.

Generally, defensive partnerships are usually given more preference ahead of individual brilliance.
I'm not against defensive partnership and I understand how it's very very important for team's stability and success.

But in Saturday's draw, one of the least culpable is Holding(I don't see any poor movement or decision that led to any error either directly or indirectly). Yes, he might budey the ball out due to his quality (or lack of) in keeping ball under pressure but the main issue started from the midfield when they lost their cool immediately we conceded the first goal. Partey was playing nonsense, Xhaka followed suit, Odegaard was not at his best and we were just under undue pressure.

If only we had maintained and dominated that game wen we went 2 goal up and not become overconfident we would have won that game same way we did against Crystal Palace and Leeds
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera2: 2:06pm On Apr 18, 2023
afrodoc2:


What does it take from someone not to bottle the league title? cry
Lol... I no know oo embarassed
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera2: 12:26pm On Apr 18, 2023
adebayo201:


I like you... No, I like this comment. 😁😂
It doesn't take anything from someone not to be sentimental really wink
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 12:19pm On Apr 18, 2023
daveP:
Na our Phil Jones. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 But i think it's too convenient making him the top villian in the last two games. He did okay vs Westham imo. Na Liverpool game he mess up gaan. But Zinch messed up the most and Arteta too by disrespecting Salah and Trent. That's tactical ineptitude. The team fell apart after that 1st pk. Arteta should have done some pep talk during a moment. He was barely vocal on the touchline.




Jamie Carragher was accurate about his talk on us



"If Anything is going to wrong towards the title race, it is definitely going to be Arsenal totally causing it, not their opponents doing anything outstanding on the pitch."


Paraphrasing


Two games we are leading 2-0 and we bottle it?


I can't even remember Arteta respecting some teams sef like here, play for a draw. Let them have the ball and just counter. We have over 30 different 90mins worth of clips for opponents to analyze and start figuring out our weaknesses so well and efficiently.


Guess what? It didn't really work. We rather messed up.

There's something that Arteta said in the all or nothing video(Aon— arsenal). He said that he'll rather play for a win when a win is possible than to settle for a draw and I fully agree with him.

Leaving the ball for teams and expecting us to always counter is attribute of a small team. We were forced to do that against Liverpool and we found out how Ramsdale made us not to carry basket go house.

Thank goodness we didn't carry that mentality to Spurs home or Stamford bridge earlier this season. Maybe we would have been below Man city by now instead of above.

Sometimes, I just feel we're overly critical of Arteta and his tactics that we don't want to even see the bigger picture.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 12:11pm On Apr 18, 2023
daveP:
I sha don vote and trust me, i hated how the defnce options were so slim at LB that i had to choose Zinch cos i can never pick Shaw wey no dey perform reach Robertson. So


Ramsdale
Saliba
Gabby
Zinch
Odegaard
Saka


My Arsenal guys gats dey my own XI.

Trippier
Rodri
KDB
Rashford
Haaland

Make up the rest.
That CB pairing have ensured we stayed at the top for way tooo long in this campaign. Seperate them and it becomes a problem. Meaning they deserve a spot together.


I don't see Zinch as an LB. I dunno why he was chosen there.

undecided
Lol .. The bolded is very very funny. This is just like you saying you don't see Haaland as a striker and you don't know why he's chosen there. Abi e get another position where Zinny don play for us this season aside Lb? grin

I can't even do any stupid first 11. The omission of both Xhaka, White and Partey just spoilt everything. These 3 were very outstanding this season for them not to be noticed. Not when their nominees are even subpar

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 12:05pm On Apr 18, 2023
iamoyindamola:
I think after this season holding should go abeg
I can’t begin to think of how last season happened after injury to a defender and holding had to step in angry
The thing with Holding Is that he didn't do anything wrong (or spectacularly wrong) for him to be blamed but there's a feeling that with Saliba, we would have probably won both matches.

I won't really blame Holding for our dropped points esp against West Ham. In fact against West Ham, he's one of the last people I'll really blame
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera2: 9:37am On Apr 18, 2023
akwesenana:
If Arsenal bottle the league and Man Utd finish third, who will have had the better season?
Man u obviously, we both made top 4.
So, Trophies matters!!

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 9:27am On Apr 18, 2023
Drone17:

Are the pictures nudes?
No oo..
But you need see the pix yourself
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 8:05am On Apr 18, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Romero made the list ahead of Man city defenders
Holjberg ahead of partey
Bentacur ahead of xhaka
Harvertz ahead of jesus
What are these people smoking abeg this is an embarrassment of a list
How relegation threatened teams and subpar players made this list is what is mind boggling

Xhaka have been nominated for EPL player of the month twice but somehow he didn't make the list while bentancur(who have been mostly injured btw) and subpar Hojberg made it. Partey that have been the best Dm after Casemiro didn't make it but Hojberg, Palhinha and Madison made it ahead of him. And what did McAllister do at Brighton over Xhaka and Partey too?

Ben White is also mostly underrated even by his countrymen. I mean, I'm seeing Romero and Ben Mee over him?

Then go to attack, that's the worst.
Havertz, Nunez? Gosh!!

No wonder Var officials dey always Fvck up for England.

I mean, if you can't even make a good decision that will take months to decide, how can you make decisions that demands quick seconds to minutes?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 7:53am On Apr 18, 2023
iamoyindamola:

The guy lost me and I am still looking for myself
grin grin grin


Na pride and ego deh talk through him that's why.

And if you notice, pride and ego no know wetin be "mathematically" grin

So I no too blame am grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 7:42am On Apr 18, 2023
Android17:


You guys don't know what it means for something to be in your hands. It means you are not depending on City's results in a nutshell and that is completely not true. You are now dependent on City's results going forward. In other words, you need City to drop points. If that is the case, then you cannot claim the title is still in your hands. It is not.
And city don't need arsenal to drop points in order to win the league?

Oga Android, please what are you saying na.
Comot ego and emotions for this your talk and you'll see Man city needs arsenal to drop more points than we need them to.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera2: 7:33am On Apr 18, 2023
dammywapes:
Yes but still arteta have been there for more than 2 seasons or so what he is doing shouldn’t be a surprise cos how many seasons does he need to compete for for the league ?
So being in a team in more than 2 seasons or so is a determinant that one should compete for the league?
Brendan Rodgers have been a Leicester for up to 5 seasons, will you not be surprised if Leicester mounted a title challenge this season?
Moyes have been at West Ham for over 4 seasons if I'm not mistaken. So it wouldn't surprise you If West Ham competed for league title this season?

I see....
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 7:26am On Apr 18, 2023
Android17:
Explain the mathematics part. Remember you have to factor City winning all their games in your summations.
As long as we draw or win Man city then we're at an advantage.

Man city only needs (3points) while we needed at least a draw(1point). So yes, it's still in our hands Mathematically
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 7:24am On Apr 18, 2023
FirstbornWds:



I laughed really hard reading this. You guys were 8 points ahead at some point.


Eww Jesus. Make this no happen to Barca abeg
All these pseudo-8 points sef, I'm not buying it and I've never bought it.

We were never 8points above Man city with same matches played and I've always maintained it. Anytime we are 8points, Man city always have one game less.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 7:21am On Apr 18, 2023
mostob:
One thing I've noticed about Saka is his intelligence and maturity. He might have seen it though but he will be fine.
This club is now different...Saka will surely find the strength to deal with everything.
But the person wey do the picture eh...
True tho...
He showed great strength and resilient after the Euro 2020 miss. I believe he'll still come back stronger...

....but that foulish guy sha lipsrsealed

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 7:17am On Apr 18, 2023
Lordfave98:

True, I was really angry with the performance yesterday, they not only bottled up our lead but solely spoilt my ticket….. doubling the pain…….
We meuveeee……..
#COYG
grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera2: 8:30pm On Apr 17, 2023
Expert17:


Lol, Kepa, Hojberg, Romero, Nunez, Havertz, Madison, Bentacur, Alisson grin grin grin

No Bruno (the most creative player in Europe's top 5 leagues) and De Gea ( highest CS)

Lol
How in God's name is relegation-threatened players making the list? embarassed

Like how??
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 6:48pm On Apr 17, 2023
Shegzdave:


Some people are just crazy, for someone that’s actually your player this season ooo
Na internet cause all this things sha... embarassed
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 6:47pm On Apr 17, 2023
Shegzdave:
Iamoyindam.ola, Jod.era2



*Removed
I have seen the pix before now..

I just wish someone should just track that clown and make guys deal with am.

This internet that people think they can just do anything and go scot-free is really annoying.

I can't even look at the pix twice. That's to tell one how bad it is
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 6:45pm On Apr 17, 2023
iamoyindamola:

I haven not seen any pix
Lol, at least you've finally seen the pix hence you understand why I was ranting
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 5:35pm On Apr 17, 2023
iamoyindamola:

No it won't he already apologized what else
I know our luck will run out one day which happened yesterday
I'm not talking about Saka. I'm talking about that id*iot that did that stvpid pix.

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