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NYSC / Re: Woman Crippled By NYSC Camp Commandant by joewee87: 12:39am On Jul 11, 2013
[quote author=Rhemmymatician]
Thank you very much for your veiled insults sir.

Hey bro according to what that guy wrote in response to you i don't think he insulted you...at least not verbally. Anyway i just read that the lady is doing ok and going about with her duty and even resuming back at the camp which am happy for her but don't really like the idea of going back. To God be the glory and i do hope we all could learn from this experience most especially the commandant. Women are fragile and need to be handled with care.

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NYSC / Re: Woman Crippled By NYSC Camp Commandant by joewee87: 12:13am On Jul 11, 2013
Rhemmymatician:
" ...And if yes could you please quote one that says if an officer of a lesser rank insults his superior the punishment is fatality?".... Depending on the level of insult, he could actually be court martialled
"..... insults his superior the punishment is fatality?" Sir, Fatality implies death, the lady didn't die.

Thank you very much. You said court martialed right not beaten up (so in order words surmoned up to hear his defence case)...so why wasn't the lady surmoned to plead her case So now you see that the commandant acted rashly and of his own volition clearly neglecting military codes and ethics.
Yes the lady did not die but who knows her chances of ever walking again! Do you know how that feels
Religion / Re: Kumuyi Offers To Resign Over Son's Wedding Controversy by joewee87: 10:06pm On Jul 08, 2013
I really do not understand why they are making a fuss over this issue....doesn't God look at the heart anymore I do not think what a man wears depicts the way his heart is...because one can wear white outside and his inside would be black. To me they didn't break God's law they only contradicted the doctrine of the church...but i ask is it not God's law we are fighting fervently to adhere to??

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NYSC / Re: Woman Crippled By NYSC Camp Commandant by joewee87: 11:00pm On Jul 07, 2013
obi2012: Did your father not teach you not to raise your hands on a woman? Do you not know they are a weaker sex physically? Yes they are all for equality but does that mean you have to exert your physical strength on them? Maybe you dont have proper upbringing

Now we can all see why Nigeria is the way it is, look at most of the responses in this thread.. You are talking about a woman versus a man, a trained armed military man versus a civilian and you people are supporting the man for this act.

This is why our rights continually get violated, we cower in fear and constantly are brutalized by people we put in power. In other countries, the military is not feared but respected and admired, yet in Nigeria, the government, police and military people constantly violate our rights and we still cower in fear. How can a military man push a civilian woman and she questioned why she was pushed and you people say its her fault.

i was just on a flight into baltimore airport last week and a military C130 from iraq landed behind my flight. The announcement was made on the PA system that they had landed, see how the whole airport rushed to sing the national anthem and hug them and welcome them back for serving their country. Old people, kids and everyone that they never knew before rushing to welcome them back. When will we have national pride in our military and police? If we dont speak up, our military will never shape up.

In the US, you rarely see military people wear their uniforms unless they are on official assignment, you would never know they are military officers. In Nigeria, they use their uniforms to intimidate you. In Nigeria, the military goes somewhere on duty, all you hear about is how they raped women and beat up people.

The harassment has to stop at some point.



Abi oooo....please tell them because they fail to learn.
NYSC / Re: Woman Crippled By NYSC Camp Commandant by joewee87: 10:30pm On Jul 07, 2013
ablyguy:

Strange how lawless individuals want others to obey the law. The girl herself, did she obey any law? Didn't she know she was defenseless before challenging his command? This tirade is one of the reasons the soldiers behave the way they do. You get what you give. We know ourselves.

Btw, I'm not in support of what the man did. Neither am I in support of what the girl did. I just don't want to call the man an animal and I abhore people who act foolishly and then come out to play the 'victim' card...

And you are playing the saint card, sitting on the fence...neither here nor there. I would like to ask you though...do you know the military rules and regulations and if yes could you please quote one that says if an officer of a lesser rank insults his superior the punishment is fatality? Now the issue is that she is not of the military and even if she were, physically assaulting her is not a punisment. I know a few rules back when i was in the man o war like when you are late for training you do 50 push-ups or you ride the bike or any other punishment that fits the situation (i don't ever recall being slapped or punched). Her offense was talking back at her superior which to me is a minor offense that the right punishment should have been given to her like the "pick a pin" or "frog jump" or any other befitting punishment which for women are harsh and tedious. So my brother let us be honest with ourselves, in Nigeria there is always the abuse of power. Let me tell you something there is a reason why this thing happened...to expose the rotteness of this people (truth be told if he knew she would be crippled he never would have laid a finger on her whether she cursed his full generation or worse).
NYSC / Re: Woman Crippled By NYSC Camp Commandant by joewee87: 9:44pm On Jul 07, 2013
Rhemmymatician: In hindsight the Captain was wrong. But, do you think he set out to injure her spine? You call him an animal, a brute. If you have seen/experienced the military in such 'controlled' hostile situation, you will know that first thing they do is rake the person down. Now he could have done that and she'dd probably get injured, or not. But its the norm to get the person on the ground, most often in anyway possible.
My point is he didn't set out to injure her spine. He wanted her on the ground, and unfortunately she got badly injured in the process.

And whatever happened to equality? Please you people should stop stressing the 'woman' factor here.

Will I say so if it were my sister or my mother? Yes I will. because the truth must be said. You wonder, why was she the one kicked to the ground? I'm an human being just like the captain you don't give me a mouthful in front of my subordinates and then I look at you, smile and move on. No sir.
If I was in that shoe, will I try to fight for my friends right? Definitely.
Will I take a garrulous path or a diplomatic one? Diplomatic
Will I respect that I'm talking to a senior officer? One that is likely older than I am? Of course yes.
Bottom line: if I was in her shoes I won't suffer the consequences she's suffering now.

That said, I wish her quick recovery
NYSC / Re: Woman Crippled By NYSC Camp Commandant by joewee87: 9:35pm On Jul 07, 2013
Rhemmymatician: In hindsight the Captain was wrong. But, do you think he set out to injure her spine? You call him an animal, a brute. If you have seen/experienced the military in such 'controlled' hostile situation, you will know that first thing they do is rake the person down. Now he could have done that and she'dd probably get injured, or not. But its the norm to get the person on the ground, most often in anyway possible.
My point is he didn't set out to injure her spine. He wanted her on the ground, and unfortunately she got badly injured in the process.

And whatever happened to equality? Please you people should stop stressing the 'woman' factor here.

Will I say so if it were my sister or my mother? Yes I will. because the truth must be said. You wonder, why was she the one kicked to the ground? I'm an human being just like the captain you don't give me a mouthful in front of my subordinates and then I look at you, smile and move on. No sir.
If I was in that shoe, will I try to fight for my friends right? Definitely.
Will I take a garrulous path or a diplomatic one? Diplomatic
Will I respect that I'm talking to a senior officer? One that is likely older than I am? Of course yes.
Bottom line: if I was in her shoes I won't suffer the consequences she's suffering now.

That said, I wish her quick recovery

My broda you have spoken your mind and in a way you spoke well but i would like to say we are never always truthful with ourselves. You said if it were your mother or sister you would say the same thing you said before and i say that's a lie...cos people always say they will never do anything evil until they find themselves in a predicament and then they blame the devil.
Now i know the commandant did not set out to hurt the girl but if she was being rude to him there are punishment that could have been melted out to her not physically hitting her....you talk about equality and that we should stop stressing the "woman" factor so i want to ask you if it were a man that was beaten the way the girl was would he have been crippled? My asnwer is no, because his body can take what his fellow man has to give...trained or not. In the military there are female commandants and superiors who handle female recruits (i don't need to be in the military to know that) so when they are training whatever happens can be justified. So please there is no equality in an experienced male commandant handling an inexperienced female ok.
Business / Re: Picture Of Bill Gates And Dangote At A Table by joewee87: 11:13am On Jul 06, 2013
obadiah777: WHILE THE WORLD STARVES. ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE IMPRESSED BY THESE TWO COVETOUS DEMONS ? SMDH

Bros y are you hating? Bill gate donate millions of dollars to a charitable organizations couple of years back and he is actively involved in alleviating poverty in africa and as someone here rightly said dangote is the highest private employer of labour in nigeria and he also is involved in charity.....must they cut off their heads to please you and you that is talking what have you done in your own little way You mustn't be wealthy to be charitable
Politics / Re: Police Arraign Innocent Man For Murder by joewee87: 10:52am On Jul 06, 2013
crackhaus: Corporal don loose him job be that oo.. Just imagine, the police that should protect the innocent now knowingly charge them with crimes..and someone tells me to respect the police, I pray o


My brother it is better for him to lose his job and live with a clear conscience than to continue that stupid job of being a nigerian police. But if he loses his job for telling the truth and saving an innocent soul then it means there is no hope for the nigerian police.
Politics / Re: Police Arraign Innocent Man For Murder by joewee87: 10:50am On Jul 06, 2013
crackhaus: Corporal don loose him job be that oo.. Just imagine, the police that should protect the innocent now knowingly charge them with crimes..and someone tells me to respect the police, I pray o

My brother it is better for him to lose his job and live with a clear conscience than to continue that stupid job of being a nigerian police. But if he loses his job for telling the truth and saving an innocent soul then it means there is no hope for the nigerian police.
NYSC / Re: Woman Crippled By NYSC Camp Commandant by joewee87: 9:05am On Jul 06, 2013
VolvoS60:

^^^^Sir,

Your reference to 'going into somebody's house to challenge him/her for a fight' as an analogy is inappropriate. The NYSC camp is not a military barracks. And even if it were, the soldier's conduct would still be inexcusable.

Sir, the commandant IS an animal. angry His conduct (if indeed this news story is true) shows him to be an animal through and through. The matter here has nothing to do with military codes and practices. The real issue here is a military that has institutionalized (for nearly half a century) a complete disregard among both the officer corps and the rank & file for ANYTHING remotely connected to civilians. This is the issue sir. Nothing else.

You say if the victim were a soldier she would probably have gotten a bullet in the leg. Fine. Your military friends can shoot themselves in the legs till nobody in the barracks can walk, but they should not bring that nonsense to the rest of us. We are not crazy.

Some posters have accused the victim of provocation and assigned half the blame to her. angry I cannot even bring myself to chide the victim, not even in the gentlest of terms. As I asked one of the other posters defending this nonsense by the NYSC commandant: Does the 'punishment' meted out to the victim fit the so-called 'crime'? Who among us has not had to relate with 'mouthy' women (and men!!)? Do we go round crushing their spines like lions in the savannah? angry

Some of us who are well adjusted individuals with a healthy sense of self are fed up with uniformed brutality. For 50 years the Nigerian army/navy/air force has behaved like an occupation force. And to what end? What have we gained? angry

South Korean military generals seized power in the last century and were determined to turn their country into an industrial powerhouse. As I'm sure you know, they succeeded. There are well known examples of how they simply blew up any steel plant that did not meet their strict standards for quality control. The Nigerian army on the other hand is better known for keeping unexploded military ordinance in open fields under the sun in a heavily built up urban area with no supervision. The negligence and incompetence was shocking (even by Nigerian standards) and it led to over 1000 fatalities when the inevitable happened. Over 1000 innocent people from all over Nigeria trying to earn a living in Lagos' harsh conditions - hardworking Nigerians determined to make something of themselves - and your army's stupidity cost them their lives.

Nigerian brasshats are a disgrace.

Preach brother....teach these low lifes their depravity and decadense. The Apogee of military brutality should be brought to a halt. They can't keep going about assailing innocent citizens

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NYSC / Re: Woman Crippled By NYSC Camp Commandant by joewee87: 8:39am On Jul 06, 2013
Tonyblinky: U get luck say na only spine u break,why on earth would u argue wit ur camp commandant?height of indiscipline,being a serving corper and went thru camping activities,its ovbious she is a mouthy person.sorry sha but it should serve as a lesson to others


Am greatly appalled by your level of callousness. Why are you talking like a depraved, callow and decadent fellow. We ought to chide this so called commandant for his abysmal and aghast behaviour. Being in the military does not give you carte-blanche over any citizen.
NYSC / Re: Woman Crippled By NYSC Camp Commandant by joewee87: 8:25am On Jul 06, 2013
Tonyblinky: U get luck say na only spine u break,why on earth would u argue wit ur camp commandant?height of indiscipline,being a serving corper and went thru camping activities,its ovbious she is a mouthy person.sorry sha but it should serve as a lesson to others

Am greatly appalled by your level of callousness. Why are you talking like a depraved, callow and decadent fellow. We ought to chide this so called commandant for his abysmal and aghast behaviour. Being in the military does not give you carte-blanche over any citizen.

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NYSC / Re: Woman Crippled By NYSC Camp Commandant by joewee87: 7:16am On Jul 06, 2013
ablyguy:

My brother I mean every word. You don't go into somebody's house and challenge the person for a fight. Whatever happens to you in there is justified. You were angry because I didn't call the commandant an animal like most people here who know nothing about millitary codes and practices. If she were soldier she would probably have gooten a bullet in the leg. The streets is different from a millitary camp or base. Know that before engaging a soldier for a fight!!! Most especially a commandant of the said camp. Yes he went too far but I won't call him an animal...

F**k the Nigerian military code, the air force, navy and whatever force there maybe in this God forsaken country of ours. I mean how can such an act be supported You call a highly trained military commandant and a defenseless, harmless girl a fair challenge What kind of country do we live in huh? A country with no law or rather the laws are for the poor and defenseless. Let me ask you if it where your daughter or sister that was crippled what would your reaction be There is no where in the world any military personel is given the right to assault a harmless civilian let alone brutally molest them, if that were so then Afghanistan and Iraq would not have citizens now. So in the sense you're saying if the whole situation where to replay itself you would act in like terms? I assume you have experience in the so called "Military Code" probably you're in the army as well, so you hate to see you fellow comrad crusified because you know you all are the same.
@volvos60 i support you and call for justice in this case in the term of financial settlement. Let the full military be brought to book and pay dearly for this. Instead of them to face their mates in the likes of boko haram they are there taking on innocent and defenseless citizens.mtcheeeeew
NYSC / Re: Woman Crippled By NYSC Camp Commandant by joewee87: 6:38am On Jul 06, 2013
nkenu: In order to make a good judgement, one must hear from both parties involved in a case. I dont think we should call for the HEAD of the NYSC camp commandant yet without giving him a fear hearing from his own side. All the same, i sympathise with Mercy on her predicaments. Wishing her a very speedy recovery!

My broda that's bulls***t no matter what the girl did there is no law anywhere that states that her punishment is brutality. There is nothing to hear from the accused in question...as a commandant there are rules you follow and there are severe punishment to administer to anyone who breaks them not crippling them or causing bodily harm, that's an infringement on human rights.
NYSC / Re: Woman Crippled By NYSC Camp Commandant by joewee87: 1:42am On Jul 05, 2013
taiyesoul:



"NOW YOUR SUFFERINGS CONTINUES"

I support you ma broda because after the so called service there aren't readily available jobs rather one would have to struggle to make ends meet. If am the father of that girl i'll make sure that idiot never lays his hands on anyone again
Celebrities / Re: Rihanna Played With Her Pussy Live On Stage In Paris (picture) by joewee87: 9:50pm On Jun 30, 2013
Komedy: I think its time dis young lady's father sits her down for a little fatherly talk.

I think you mean the mother....it's really not the place of a father to lecture a daughter on such issues, it's only when the mother is not available and there are no close relatives around that the father is obligated to do that.

And people in the world that we're in now i don't think this is really an issue to cause alarm, who are we talking about here....rihanna? Her life has always be filled with controversies.
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Sports / Re: Keshi Will No Longer Select Players Alone - NFF by joewee87: 8:54pm On Jun 30, 2013
Sincerely i do not buy the idea of NFF choosing players for the coach (that would bring about another "politics"which would cause another big issue) but i also do not like the fact that there is segregation on the part of the coach as well putting out some key players...he has to vary all available options before deciding on the final list.
Nairaland / General / Re: Snake Swallowed A Goat In Abuja by joewee87: 10:35pm On Jun 29, 2013
Siga: I once saw a snake that swallowed a car and when it was cut open....it was a Benz 190

Dude get real...think what you say before spitting it.
Celebrities / Re: Govt Officals To Withdraw Support For OJB Over False Donations by joewee87: 10:24pm On Jun 29, 2013
Nonybb: Look at all of the current artist we have now buying cars and living a reckless life, after all these they will be looking for me and who to donate money


Yeah....but OJB's case is quite different and remember he wasn't really a seasoned producer during his time like the Don Jazzys of now.
Celebrities / Re: See Senator's Salaries And Their Alllowances.... by joewee87: 11:47pm On Jun 27, 2013
Somebody please tell me those figures are a hoax! How on earth can they be paid such amounts when we have people in Nigeria who are said to live below $1 a day Am here ranting when i know there's absolutely nothing that can be done to salvage the situation....it's only God that can save this country.
Celebrities / Re: Which Of The Nigerian Actors Or Actresses Do You Think Deserves An Oscar? by joewee87: 11:23pm On Jun 27, 2013
SMC: The question posed on this thread is an insult to serious actors in Hollywood who toil very hard when making a movie [and don't churn out crap in a few weeks only to call such crap a movie]. Nobody in Nollywood deserves an Oscar. . . Period. Not even Olu Jacob and Joke Silva who trained and acted abroad and who are regarded among the cream of the Nigerian actors.

The standard of acting in Nollywood falls way short of Hollywood 'B' movies and even those sort of movies do not aspire to an Oscar nomination talk much less of actually winning an Oscar.

@SMC: Please do try and be optimistic about our movie industry. We know that the level they are now is really nothing to write home about but it's worth our support. I believe you can agree with me that the likes of RMD, Olu Jacobs, Stella Damascus, Joke Sylva, Omotola, Genevive and a host of other credible actors are worth nominating if given the chance considering the fact that they have done something out of nothing. I hope you do not want to compare our movie industry with that of America cos that's like comparing Nigeria's economy with theirs....they are not our mates in anything, so please let's give kudos to those who have tried their best raising Nigeria's movie industry from nothing to something. The American government supports and invest in their movie industry why can't ours do same?
Celebrities / Re: 2face Idibia Set To Go Back To School, Annie Idibia Cries (photo) by joewee87: 10:54pm On Jun 27, 2013
Good for him...infact that would really compliment his achievements and it would also boost his chances of getting vital international awards. Happy for him
Politics / Re: Oshiomhole Bans Okada In Benin City by joewee87: 10:41pm On Jun 12, 2013
I think what the government ought to have done is fore-warn the masses and prepare a fall-back plan for both the riders and the passengers. The rate of unemployment has risen and the potential of increased crime is also high, which is what they are so called trying to avoid. The government needs to put the interest of the people at heart.

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