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achorladey:
MaxInDHouse will tell you they didn't give specific dates

when false jw's prophecy that something will happen in a specific year, and it doesn't
mad max often asks; "was a specific date given", he must think it's not a false prophecy unless a day and month is also given
those people are as dum as they come, they have to be to remain in that group of gullible people

Biodun556:
1. Paul was never a Christian. Towards the end of his life, he described himself as a Jew-Acts 22:3.

2. Yeshua, Whom you call Jesus, was also never a Christian. He was a Jew,

3. Peter, believed to be His successor, was also never a Christian. He self-identified as Jewish in Acts 10:28.

1. paul became a believer in Christ, a Christian
2. Yeshua/Jesus, is Christ, Christians are followers of Christ, believers in Christ
3. peter was a follower and believer in Christ, a Christian


try posting quotes from someone who knows what they are talking about

MaxInDHouse:
If you're not stupid you should know that ex-jws should know better and be able to present a real fixed date found in the publications of Watchtower not just stories from Paul Grundy who is deceiving you with lies.
Wait and see if any former JW could present a publication of Watchtower where a fixed date was mentioned instead of seeking the attention of Jehovah's Witnesses up and down the forum!

lost mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ

false jw, you keep saying paul grundy is deceiving us and that the jw quotes from jwfacts..com are lies,
you can check them on your own jws online library, here is one of jwfacts quotes that i just now copied from your jws online library:

"Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus is present and has been since 1874"

look that one up (Watchtower Jan 1, 1924 p.5) and look others up for yourself too, oh lying false accuser like your father the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

yes so called Jehovah's witnesses are prophets/false prophets

billionbibles..com

Watch Tower: 1922 - 'We are sure about 1925'

"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught

billionbibles..com

The Time is at Hand: 1908 - 'Jesus' earthly reign will begin in 1914'


Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.

there is no light in false prophets


billionbibles..com

Millions Now Living Will Never Die: 1920 - "Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will be resurrected in 1925"



"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

MaxInDHouse:
Truth is whatever binds people of different tribes, tongues and races together {John 17:17} making them one family! John 17:22
Do you have a contrary opinion?

lost mad max, blasphemer of jehovah and Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ

fraud jw, truth is the opposite to lies, the latter you know about and practise all the time
like yout father the devil does:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

achorladey:
They know who they are.

they certainly do

MaxInDHouse:
YES o!
Johnny has performed a miracle!

lost mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ

false jw, it looks like you have become obsessed with me, yuck/vomit

MaxInDHouse:
Johnny has shown you the light with his tough consistency!

lost mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ

false jw:

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

Aemmyjah: Triple

MaxInDHouse:
The johnny guy thought everyone is weak like achorladey who never built a strong faith! Matthew 7:24-27
Below is one of his attacks on achorladey back then so he assumed everyone will surrender their faith when he keeps attacking them from every side!

the queers are back together

lost mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ

false jw, of course you are unable to stop lying like your father the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

achorladey:
Once they are associated with the very thing they love to condemn they start all sorts of lies and manipulations packed into their brains to hide the truth about their religious organization.

they even deny false prophecies/false date settings from their own publications to hide the truth about their religious organisation

lost mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ

false jw, you said; "God is not all powerful"

so of course your jehovah is not the Jehovah of the Bible: > The Almighty God:

Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.

MaxInDHouse:
Without Jehovah's Witnesses you have no life.

lost mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ

false jw, your habitual lying is forever:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse: Check out your comments for the past eight months it's only about Jehovah's Witnesses showing that without us you're lifeless!

fraud jw, pointing out lies is what i mainly do here, so naturally most of my posts are to you false jw's
you so dum, aren't you:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

MaxInDHouse:
Without Jehovah's Witnesses you have no life.

lost mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ

false jw, your habitual lying is forever:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse: Check out your comments for the past eight months it's only about Jehovah's Witnesses showing that without us you're lifeless!

fraud jw, pointing out lies is what i mainly do here, so naturally most of my posts are to you false jw's
you so dum, aren't you:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

MaxInDHouse:
Without Jehovah's Witnesses you have no life.

lost mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ

false jw, your habitual lying is forever:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse: Check out your comments for the past eight months it's only about Jehovah's Witnesses showing that without us you're lifeless!

fraud jw, pointing out lies is what i mainly do here, so naturally most of my posts are to you false jw's
you so dum, aren't you:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

false jw's/false prophets, try to make Jesus Christ out to be a false prophet just like they are,
but then they also try and make the Holy Spirit out to be a liar, etc. etc. etc.



jwfacts..com
Babylon the Great (Christendom) Utterly Destroyed
"The seventh trumpet sounds from Aug. 1840, until "the time of trouble," or day of wrath is ended. Hence, it doubtless ends with the times of the Gentiles, and this forty years of conquest; and therefore, sounds until A. D. 1914; at the end of which, Babylon the great, will have fallen, and the "dragon" be bound: that is, the nations will be subdued, and "the prince of this world cast out."" Three Worlds and The Harvest of This World (1877) p.143




"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:


from jwfacts..com
In 1967, Watchtower wrote that "sudden death" was "only a few short years ahead of us" and to come within the generation that had seen both world wars.

"the danger of sudden death is staring you in the face. ... That is exactly the case with the warning that we speak of here, and there are reasons why it can truly be said to be the most urgent warning ever given. ... It is to come within the generation that has already seen two world wars and it is only a few short years ahead of us." Watchtower 1967 Apr 15 pp.243-244



"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

the difference between Christians and so called Jehovah's witnesses is that
Christians are followers of Jesus Christ and false jw's are false prophets


jwfacts..com
1975 Watchtower Quotes

The idea that 1975 would culminate in the end of the world was introduced in 1966.

"The published timetable resulting from this independent study gives the date of man's creation as 4026 B.C.E. According to this trustworthy Bible chronology six thousand years from man's creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E. So six thousand years of man's existence on earth will soon be up, yes, within this generation. So in not many years within our own generation we are reaching what Jehovah God could view as the seventh day of man's existence. How appropriate it would be for Jehovah God to make of this coming seventh period of a thousand years a sabbath period of rest and release, a great Jubilee sabbath for the proclaiming of liberty throughout the earth to all its inhabitants! This would be most timely for mankind. It would also be most fitting on God's part, for, remember, mankind has yet ahead of it what the last book of the Holy Bible speaks of as the reign of Jesus Christ over earth for a thousand years, the millennial reign of Christ. It would not be by mere chance or accident but would be according to the loving purpose of Jehovah God for the reign of Jesus Christ, the 'Lord of the Sabbath,' to run parallel with the seventh millennium of man's existence." Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God 1966 pp.26-30

"Does God's rest day parallel the time man has been on earth since his creation? Apparently so. In what year, then, would the first 6,000 years of man's existence and also the first 6,000 years of Gods rest day come to an end? The year 1975. It means that within a relatively few years we will witness the fulfilment of the remaining prophecies that have to do with the "time of the end"." Awake! 1966 Oct 8 pp.19-20




Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.

MaxInDHouse:
Without Jehovah's Witnesses you have no life.

lost mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ

false jw, your habitual lying is forever:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse: Check out your comments for the past eight months it's only about Jehovah's Witnesses showing that without us you're lifeless!

fraud jw, pointing out lies is what i mainly do here, so naturally most of my posts are to you false jw's
you so dum, aren't you:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

there is no light in false prophets


from jwfacts..com
1975 - Watchtower Quotes

From 1966 to 1975, the Watchtower regularly implied that Armageddon would arrive in 1975. However, ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses about this date and they will invariably deny there ever being such statements. The following exhaustive list of quotes show Watchtower left little to the imagination regarding 1975.

In 1980, Watchtower admitted "considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975" from information printed in its publications.

"With the appearance of the book Life Everlasting-in Freedom of the Sons of God, and its comments as to how appropriate it would be for the millennial reign of Christ to parallel the seventh millennium of man's existence, considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975. ... Unfortunately, however, along with such cautionary information, there were other statements published that implied that such realization of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility." Watchtower 1980 Mar 15 p.17

Regular implications that 1975 would bring Armageddon resulted in many Jehovah's Witnesses firmly believing this was going to be the end.

The growth rate of publishers before and after 1975 proves the significance of 1975 for Jehovah's Witnesses and the affect of Armageddon's failure to eventuate at that time.



"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

MaxInDHouse:
All these just to cover for your frustration after your friends has taken away the truth from you and replaced it with frustration!
See below screenshot to remind you when you were been battered by your present friends!

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ

false jw, me and achorladey are friends today, but you fearful satan's mob
love to try and put Christians against each other, just like your devil does:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

MaxInDHouse:
That one has no life without JWs!

lost mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ

false jw, lying is of course your natural way of talking as it is the devils:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

fraud jw, you agreed with janosky, and he cannot show where i lied in that post,
and he cannot show how psalm 83:18 has anything to do with my post,
so perhaps you can explain the voices in his head and his confusion and what he is trying to say:

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Janosky:
LYING miscreant is Psalms 83:18 King James version of your Bible?

lost fraud jw janosky

be sure to quote my lie, oh false accuser like your father the devil:

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.


"Psa 83:18  That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth."

^^ absolutely, what are your voices telling you, what are you trying to say:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Janosky:
No mind that MUMU WAILER,John MUMU double.

lost fraud jw janosky

well, false jw's mad max and aemmy believe your voices in your head too, and your confusion
you are all of the same line of thought in lies, false accusing, confusion, paranoa, etc. etc. etc.

Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.

Janosky:
John MUMU WAILING WAILER
See this screenshot evidences.
What happened to the revelation your pentecostal hero received since 1979?

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


very dum and confused lost fraud jw janosky

i am not pentecostal and that person is not my hero
you are forever hearing voices in your head oh lost one

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

there is no light in false prophets


from jwfacts..com
Rather than accept responsibility for stumbling followers with their false 1925 teachings, Watchtower derogatively describes these ones as chaff.

"Although these tests resulted in a sifting and some blew away like chaff when wheat is winnowed, others remained firm." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.633

Current Watchtower comments about 1925, such as in Proclaimers, attempt to whitewash the failure, or shift the blame to the members. However, on one occasion, Rutherford candidly made the following admission;

“Regarding his misguided statements as to what we could expect in 1925, he once confessed to us at Bethel, “I made an ass of myself.”” Watchtower 1984 Oct 1 p.24


"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

the difference between Christians and so called Jehovah's witnesses is that
Christians are followers of Jesus Christ and false jw's are false prophets


jwfacts..com
Shifting Blame

It is reprehensible that from the moment Rutherford's prediction proved wrong (and continuing to this day) the Governing Body shifted the blame for the false expectation away from themselves and onto the members.

"It was stated in the "Millions" book that we might reasonably expect them to return shortly after 1925, but this was merely an expressed opinion; besides it is still shortly after 1925." Watch Tower 1926 Jul 1 p.196

"Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not so state." Watch Tower 1926 Aug 1 p.232

"Instead of its being considered a 'probability,' they read into it that it was a 'certainty'." Yearbook 1975 p.146

"Ever since the 1870's, Bible Students had been serving with a date in mind - first 1914, then 1925. Now they realized that they must serve for as long as Jehovah wishes." Watchtower 1993 Nov 1 p.12

"On the basis of what was said there, many hoped that perhaps the remaining ones of the little flock would receive their heavenly reward by 1925. … Though mistaken, they eagerly shared it with others." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.632




Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.

studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:


from jwfacts..com
"How much of all this will come to pass in 1926 is not stated. At present we do not find any definite date beyond 1926 indicated in the Scriptures. When the Bible Students found 1914 in the Bible they heralded it far and wide, but the Lord left the curtain down at that date until we had reached it. God set his seal upon 1914, and the work started that year is still going on. We find the date 1925-1926 clearly indicated in the prophetic outline, and the Lord has not lifted the curtain sufficiently for us to see distinctly beyond." Watch Tower 1925 Feb 15 p.58

Increase, then Decrease

After 1918, the Millions teaching became the central focus of the preaching effort, being delivered through a series of public lectures by Rutherford and other brothers. These were advertised in local newspapers, as displayed in the following clippings.

Preaching that the earthly resurrection would commence in 1925 resulted in tremendous growth for the Watchtower Society.

"This resulted in bringing into the sanctuary many more to be members of this remnant consecrated by Jehovah. This was evident from the increasing attendance at the annual celebrations of the Lord's evening meal,
32,661 participating in 1922;
42,000 in 1923;
62,696 in 1924; and
90,434 in 1925. ...
89,278 [in 1926]"
Watchtower 1960 May 1 p.282

The converse occurred after 1925 came and went without incidence. Memorial attendance dropped by three-quarters, from 88,544 in 1927 to just 17,380 in 1928. (Watchtower 1955 p.366; Yearbook 1929 p.55) (Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose p.313) It is estimated that as many as 75% of publishers left the religion and by 1935 memorial attendance was still only 63,146.3 It took until 1940 to once again reach the same number of Watchtower followers as the pre-1925 era.


"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

false jw's/false prophets, try to make Jesus Christ out to be a false prophet just like they are,
but then they also try and make the Holy Spirit out to be a liar, etc. etc. etc.



jwfacts..com
1874 to 1914 were described as the greatest period of trouble in human history, the period of Armageddon itself, with the end of trouble to be in 1914.

"Now, in view of recent labor troubles and threatened anarchy, our readers are writing to know if there may not be a mistake in the 1914 date. They do not see how present conditions can hold out so long under the strain. We see no reason for changing the figures - nor could we change them if we would. They are, we believe, God's dates, not ours. But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble." Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226 (reprints 1677)

The following quotes during the lead up to 1914 show there could be no doubt as to what Watchtower followers expected. The end of the Last Days in 1914 was to initiate a number of endings and new beginnings.

● 1914 - the end of the preaching work
● 1914 - the end of all religion
● 1914 - the wholesale destruction of all government
● 1914 - the end of the Great Tribulation
● 1914 - the end of Armageddon
● 1914 - Russell and his followers to be raised to heaven
● 1914 - Jesus' Kingdom established as paradise on earth
● 1914 - commencement of the earthly resurrection

The following Watchtower quotes are just a small selection that highlight how they promoted these assertions.



"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

MaxInDHouse:
Seeking the attention of Jehovah's Witnesses!
Seeking the attention of Jehovah's Witnesses!
Seeking the attention of Jehovah's Witnesses!
Seeking the attention of Jehovah's Witnesses!

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost mad max, blasphemer of jehovah and Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ

false jw, putting you false jw's in your place is what i am doing

but whatever lie you want to call it by, < get used to it

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse:
Seeking the attention of Jehovah's Witnesses!

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ

false jw, lies come naturally to you like they do to your devil, don't they:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.