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giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught jwfacts..com 1798 "And, perhaps we can answer: the "time, times, and a-half," ended in 1798, at the taking away of the papal dominion, and is one of the great landmarks of prophecy." Three Worlds and The Harvest of This World (1877) p.158 The 1260 days in Revelation 12:7 were said to extend from 538 A.D. to 1798 A.D. and marked by the end of Papal rule. In 1889, Russell changed the last days from 1798 to 1799, based on a new understanding that papal rule started in 539 A.D. 1799 Few Witnesses today are aware of the relevance of the year 1799, that this year is pivotal to the very existence of Jehovah's Witnesses. 1799 was the beginning of "the time of the end." This concept started the era of enlightenment and Adventist movement of the 1800's, resulting in Russell's end time belief system. In no uncertain terms, Watchtower presented "proof" that 1799 was "definitely" the start of the time of the end. "THE "Time of the End," a period of one hundred and fifteen (115) years, from A.D. 1799 to A.D. 1914, is particularly marked in the Scriptures. "The Day of His Preparation" is another name given to the same period." Studies in the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come p.23 In 1796, George Bell postulated that the Pope was the Antichrist and would fall in 1797. The war that started shortly afterwards, along with Napoleon debasing the Pope, was seen as evidence of the fulfilment of this. So dramatic was the apparent fulfilment of this prophecy that it led to the start of the Adventist movement and belief that the last days started 1799. The reasoning was related to Daniel's prophecy of the King of the North and prophecies of the 1260 days in Daniel 7:25, Revelation 12:7 and 11:1-3. Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is as Hand and Zion's Watch Tower 1889 discussed this as relating to the 1799 date. Catholic Papal rule started in 539 A.D. and was said to have ended 1260 years later in 1799, thus starting the beginning of the time of the end. The prophecy of the 1355 days was similarly calculated to extend from 539 A.D. to 1874, another key date in Russell's understanding of the end times. Although Russell did not get involved in the Adventist movement until the 1870's, he accepted this date as truth and felt that God had chosen him as his mouthpiece to preach the urgency of the times. Despite Russell's death, and the failure of his teaching that Jesus earthly rulership would commence 1914, Watchtower continued with this doctrine, and even well after Jesus apparent cleansing of Watchtower in 1919. at 7:15 "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. |
MaxInDHouse:lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max i'm not interested in discussions with you satans mob, and you are not smart enough to divert me from continuing to point out your false jw's lies and blasphemy and false prophecies etc. oh most dum one 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints |
MaxInDHouse:ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max you of course say any lie to divert from the truth about your unforgivable sin and false jw's false prophecy's, oh fearful one: rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death. |
MaxInDHouse:ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max from jwfacts whose info is from so called Jehovah's witnesses publications, oh denier of truth false jw blasphemer of the Holy Spirit: Mat 12:31 Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. Mat 12:32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come. |
MaxInDHouse:ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max when you speak all these lies you are just speaking your natural talk just like your father the devil, of course: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
MaxInDHouse:lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max i will post more evidence soon of you false jw's being false prophets, oh denier of truth and blinded one: 2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them |
giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught jwfacts..com Scant mention is made of the incredible list of dates that had been abandoned. Nor does it clarify that it was not until 1943 that the beginning of Christ's presence was specifically changed from the year 1874 to 1914. This change was in The Truth Shall Make You Free, released in the time of Knorr and the first book to be printed that did not list the author's name. This was after the death of Rutherford and well after 1919 when Jesus inspection supposedly found a spiritually cleansed Organization. One can imagine that over time most of the current doctrine describing events of the 1900's will eventually be seen to be of little relevance and relegated to the forgotten annals of Watchtower history. It is yet to be seen what will become of 1914; being the most significant doctrine it will be the most difficult to eradicate without overwhelming consequences. 1780 May 19, 1780 was the date for the first sign of the last days, "The Dark Day." Certain Adventists still hold to this date. It was said by Ellen that "Since the time of Moses no period of darkness of equal density, extent, and duration, has ever been recorded." (Great Controversy, p. 308) This was touched on in Studies in the Scriptures - The Day Of Vengeance (1897) p.604; "Reckoning a hundred years from 1780, the date of the first sign, the limit would reach to 1880; and, to our understanding, every item predicted had begun to be fulfilled at that date" The time of darkness, the first sign of the end, was caused by fires in New England and was confined mostly to the North-Eastern part of the United States. Quite typically a new religion will think their country is predicted in prophecy. The Adventists, Mormons and Watchtower Society all began as US centric religions. at 7:15 "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. |
MaxInDHouse:oh duh lost false jw deceiver mad max sinning against the Holy Spirit is speaking against the Holy Spirit/speaking lies against the Holy Spirit false jw, you spoke against the Holy Spirit, you said He confirmed your lies, making the Holy Spirit out to be a liar like you are: MaxinDHouse: olaadegbu, emusan, and johnw47 are the same personMat 12:31 Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. Mat 12:32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come. but according to you oh lost one, making the Holy Spirit out to be a liar is not sinning against the Holy Spirit, u such a dum deceiver, aren't you |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max and of course you believe those jews who say; Jesus gave false prophecies and false dates false jw, as well as being a blasphemer of the Holy Spirit and a non stop liar you also deny the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit and the Word of God: the word of God say's that God is Almighty, and you false jw say, God is not Almihgty/not all powerful the word of God say's that Jesus is without sin, and you false jw say, Jesus is a deceiver the word of God say's that speaking against the Holy Spirit in unforgivable, and you false jw say speaking against the Holy Spirit, is not unforgivable false jw, you are just like those jews who falsely accused Jesus, you are clearly of your father the devil: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught jwfacts..com Other significant dates the Watchtower no longer refer to are; 1799 A.D. - The beginning of the Last Days. 539 A.D. - Thought to be the start of Catholic Papal rule and the start point of many prophetic interpretations. Of these above dates only 1914 is still considered significant, and even then, mostly for different reasons than originally prescribed. Though part of Watchtower lore for 60 years, most current Jehovah's Witnesses are unaware of their significance and that each one failed to eventuate as predicted. Each time the Watchtower has predicted an occurrence, it has not eventuated as foretold, a 100% failure rate. Does this inspire confidence in Watchtower interpretation? Jehovah's Witnesses promoted these falsehoods in the past, and continue to zealously advocate current doctrine as unfailing truths. It is claimed that Jesus found a cleansed Slave Class dispensing truthful food in 1919. However, Rutherford continued to promote Russell's interpretation of the dates for the 1700's, 1800's and 1914 until the 1930's. Many of the date prophecies were re-explained between 1930 and 1932; the remainder were adjusted in 1943. Rutherford even dismissed the majority of his own 1900's predictions. Chapter 10 of Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom is devoted to the subject "Growing in Accurate Knowledge of the Truth". This discusses that truth is progressive, yet makes little reference to the failed dates. Relegated to a footnote on page 133 is the statement that; "A clearer understanding of Biblical chronology was published in 1943, in the book "The Truth Shall Make You Free" and it was then refined the following year in the book "The Kingdom Is at Hand," as well as in later publications. at 7:15 "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. to be continued |
MaxInDHouse:mad max, lost false accuser like your daddy the devil: Rev_12:10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night. i have no need to tell you satan's mob anything about myself on the other hand you are always telling how wonderful you are trying to show you are not a blasphemer of the Holy Spirit you fool no one oh dum dum Rev_20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire |
MaxInDHouse:ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool lost false jw mad max of course you a blasphemer of the Holy Spirit is full of lies: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max i'm not a pastor, let alone a fake pastor, but you can never stop lying like your father the devil, can you oh fraud: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max of much babbel your lying about and denying God's word all over the place will never change God's word, you sinned against the Holy Spirit making Him out to be a liar, oh deceiver: Mat 12:31 Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. Mat 12:32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come. |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max false teacher, one can speak against a group bearing fruit of the Holy Spirit and be forgiven, just like one can even speak against Jesus Christ Who bear fruit of the Holy Spirit and be forgiven, but one cannot speak against the Holy Spirit like you did, making Him out to be a liar, and be forgiven: Mat 12:31 Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. Mat 12:32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come. false jw, you are so confused and often teaching lies like that: 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max talk about pastor confucius, you have asked me that many times, even recently, and i have told you more than once, you are so confused, of course: 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max not if those have spoken against the Holy Spirit: Mat 12:31 Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. Mat 12:32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come. |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max and speaking against the Holy Spirit Himself will never be forgiven speaking against the Holy Spirit in any way won't be forgiven: Mat 12:31 Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. Mat 12:32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come. see how you false jw's often deny God's word |
sonmvayina:lost antichrist calling the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ: "a ass wipe" and "a scammer" has sealed your final destination: Rev_20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire |
sonmvayina:dummy, you don't believe Jesus or paul or the Christian scriptures and you love to knock what you don't know, like i said you are a dope this is your final destination antichrist: Rev_20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire |
sonmvayina:antichrist, when did the last trump sound sonmvayina: So if they did not rapture then he certainly was lying his ass off....as usual.of course you a Christ and Christian hater, don't believe corinthians and thessalonians and paul and Jesus and you cannot intelligently rebuff those scriptures, all you can do is say; "they are not meant for you 2000 years later" "he was lying his ass off" and "it is a scam" < just nonsense out of your head is all you have, of course dope, here is your end: Rev_20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max repeating your lies and running from truth, of course: rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death. johnw47: |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max repeating your lies, of course; Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max see, you can never stop lying: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
MaxInDHouse:very dum lost false jw mad max the true Church doesn't have to have a name, the true Church is all saved Christians of faith john referred to the church in ephesus and the Church in philadelphia etc. 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints Church ekklēsia; an assembly, a (religious) congregation |
achorladey:challengeing to mention one perfect man in the Bible is implying there is none, which includes Jesus but then mad max also teaches that Yahovah is not all knowing and not Almighty, as well he is such a denier of Father and Son, and he thinks giving credit to the Holy Spirit for lies isn't speaking against the Holy Spirit - none can be more blinded 1Jn_2:23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; |
Dtruthspeaker:amazing, so called Jehovah's witnesses teaching it's ok to lie a bit from that article: The Watchtower Society has a history of lying, not only to outsiders, but to its own members! Is this Christian or Pagan? The Society tries to make it Christian by calling it “justified lying.” This doctrine is still in place down to our day. We have just considered an example where they denied writing a biography of Charles Russell, but really wrote three. This doesn’t fit their definition of “justified lying” which is also called “theocratic war strategy.” Justified lying is defined by them as follows: “As a soldier of Christ he is in theocratic warfare and he must exercise added caution when dealing with God’s foes. Thus the Scriptures show that for the purpose of protecting the interests of God’s cause, it is proper to hide the truth from God’s enemies….” (Watchtower, June 1/60 p. 352) The trouble is, not only does the Society lie to outsiders, they regularly lie to their own members! We will consider more of this practice of lying later, but cannot help but quote Revelation 22:15, “Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices lying.” |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max Jesus is one perfect man in the Bible, He never sinned, He never even had original sin, He obeyed His Father completely, He is just like His Father. those to mention just a few are qualifications for being a perfect man. but of course you false jw say He is a deceiver, that He deceived thomas, but then again you also say that Yahovah is not all knowing, and that Yahovah is not Almighty, and you blaspheme the Holy Spirit, etc. etc. etc. you know nothing about being perfect but false jw, you go on preaching that Jesus wasn't perfect, and that Yahovah isn't all knowing and Almighty etc. Mat_10:33 "But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven. |
Kobojunkie:ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool truly dum dum, Jesus isn't lightning, He comes like lightning "shining" and "travelling east to west" Mat_24:27 "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. |
Kobojunkie:oh duh, Jesus isn't lightning, He comes like lightning "shining" and "travelling east to west" Mat_24:27 "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max and from the other side of your mouth you say, referring to your group; "A city set on a hill cannot be hidden" you people are just full of bull, all those lies and contradictions that come out of your head are of course from the devil: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
achorladey:it's amazing how much of God's word they don't believe, and they turn literal to figurative etc. to support their false beliefs MaxinDHouse: Every eyes here doesn't mean the literal eyes rather seeing what Jesus stood for through the activities of his (real) disciples on earth.they are seeing like lightning shines from the east to the west what Jesus stood for through the activities of his (real) disciples on earth ![]() he is like that all over the place, talk about false teachers |
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