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Christianity EtcRe: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by johnw47: 11:02pm On Nov 23, 2024
achorladey:
Running helter skelter as usual. He is even using the word rapture cheesy grin cheesy
he has a spirit of fear
Christianity EtcRe: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by johnw47: 10:52pm On Nov 23, 2024
achorladey:
Let him go to his thread and bring it here. Where in the Bible did they get the 1914 date? His lying and manipulating brains still asking for dates. Who taught him 1914. That's the height of his delusion.
he cowardly runs away from truth, and replies with confused babble

and dummy tries to convince us who have half a brain, that making the Holy Spirit out to be a liar isn't sinning against the Holy Spirit,
that's how dum he is smiley
Christianity EtcRe: JW 003 What Is Unforgivable Sin? by johnw47: 10:41pm On Nov 23, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Your folly is obvious as you can't speak without insulting others whereas there is nothing new here neither in your churches that's why you can't mention the name of your church because you know whatever you accuse others of is happening in all your churches! smiley
lost false jw mad max

you just repeating your lies, of course,
and my saying; you are a lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit
is the truth, however you know little about truth:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 003 What Is Unforgivable Sin? by johnw47: 9:45am On Nov 23, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
So it's by speaking against what God's spirit is achieving in the gathering of imperfect humans that's unforgivable! Matthew 12:31-32
The qualities of God's Holy Spirit are LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, FAITH and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23} these qualities are aliens to our personality as sinful imperfect humans so it's difficult for any human to meet up with all these qualities no matter how much we try {Romans 7:15-25} but then when 2 or 3 gather to practice what Jesus taught {Matthew 18:20} God's Holy Spirit will help them to do things orderly and if any observer watches closely he or she will notice that these group is acting in a strange way that's contrary to sinful nature of humans.
WHY?
Because the spirit of God is permeating their gathering {John 14:26-27} of course each of them can't exhibit all the qualities of these spirit but as they come together they will continue to encourage one another through their gathering to keep on doing what is good! Hebrew 10:24-25
Whoever sees such and start speaking against the gathering is sinning against God's Holy Spirit because all the qualities of God's spirit will be noticeable as they come together to do God's will {Matthew 5:14-16; 7:16-18} so anyone speaking against them will not be forgiven since there is nothing to say against the qualities of God's Holy Spirit perceived in the gathering of imperfect humans! Galatians 5:23b smiley
lost false jw mad max

truly dum one, you speaking lies and then saying that the Holy Spirit told you that, is speaking against the Holy Spirit,
making the Holy Spirit out to be a liar, your fooling yourself will never change reality:

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 003 What Is Unforgivable Sin? by johnw47: 11:24pm On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Speaking against the fruitage of the spirit of God operating in the midst of humans.
lost false jw mad max

speaking anything against the Holy Spirit is sin against the Holy Spirit,
like your giving the Holy Spirit credit for a lie:

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Christianity EtcRe: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by johnw47: 10:57pm On Nov 22, 2024
Petalss:
Thank you for your response. However, I believe it's important to approach this question logically. How would people across the entire Earth be able to see Jesus descending from the clouds simultaneously?

Using basic logic, even the Sun–which is approximately 1.3 million times larger than Earth–cannot be seen by everyone on Earth at the same time due to the planet's curvature and rotation.

So, how plausible is it for Jesus to literally descend from the clouds and be visible to people on opposite sides of the globe?

Would this require a supernatural phenomenon beyond human comprehension, or could it be symbolic rather than literal? I’d love to hear your thoughts on this since you said it literal.
when Jesus returns on the clouds of heaven, He travels around the globe just like lightning goes from east to west and every eye will see Him:


Rev 1:7  BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen. 

Mat 24:27  "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 10:26am On Nov 22, 2024
giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught




jwfacts..com

Russell preached:
the Second Coming of Jesus was 1874, and the start of the 1000 year earthly reign was 1914, as it was to end in 2914 A.D.


Rutherford preached:
"WE HAVE no doubt whatever in regard to the chronology relating to the dates of 1874, 1914, 1918, and 1925." Watchtower 1922 May 15 p.147

Over time, Rutherford replaced 1874, such that his time line was as in picture below.





russell's and rutherford's prophecys both failed, of course:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 9:31am On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
God's organized people have achieved what Jesus promised globally! Act 1:8
lost false jw mad max

but you false jw's haven't
Christianity EtcRe: Is Rapture Real ? by johnw47: 9:29am On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you're just a character!
You believe him yet you don't even know what ministry he belongs to.
Well thanks for your time! smiley
lost false jw mad max

i believe his jw publications are accurate is what i said
but you cannot stop deceiving

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Christianity EtcRe: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
It's OK now who is the liar?
lost false jw mad max

you are of course oh dummy

and once again, i never said i'm sure that Paul Grundy is a preacher of God's word.
when you said that Christians of faith are preachers, i said if you insist then paul grundy and me are preachers
MaxinDHouse: if you are sure that Paul Grundy is a preacher of God's word.
MaxInDHouse: Please next time don't run after Max because i am a million times intelligent than you.
Goodbye! smiley
puffed up mad max, then why doesn't it show
but go on run away

SEE
you will be forever more, cowardly and running away from the truth in confusion and babble
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 8:57am On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Character!
You're just looking for what to say when you don't know anything, blasphemy against God's Holy Spirit means antagonizing the obvious fruit of God's Holy Spirit in the gathering of imperfect humans.
People can't see the Holy Spirit but when it's operating on imperfect humans the fruit will be obvious so anyone speaking against such fine fruits {Galatians 5:22-23} which is impossible among imperfect humans is the one blaspheming the spirit of God! Matthew 12:31-32
truly lost false jw mad max

your making the Holy Spirit out to be a liar is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit,
your denial right up to being thrown into the lake of fire won't change that oh fearful one:

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Christianity EtcRe: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
You shouldn't have said:
lost false jw mad max

you should have posted the rest oh deceiver:

well if you insist dum dum, paul grundy and i are preachers,
but of course that is usually referring to pastors etc. isn't it false jw
MaxInDHouse: If you're sure that Paul Grundy is a preacher of God's word.
i never said that oh cannot stop deceiving false jw

MaxInDHouse: I'm no longer interested in your own church as you have failed over the years to mention one but now tell me the name of the ministry Paul Grundy is working with if you're not a liar! smiley
false jw, i have told you more than once; i belong to the true Church who are Christians of faith from different denominations and non denominational, but lying is your natural talk, isn't it
as far as what is the ministry paul grundy is working with, like i said:
i'm not a paul grundy encyclopedia, oh nothing between the ears

SEE
you will be forever more, cowardly and running away from the truth in confusion and babble
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Christianity EtcRe: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
So you mean Jesus lied when he said:
“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6
lost false jw mad max

if anyone means Jesus lied it is you, and certainly not me oh confused deceiver

MaxInDHouse: Whoever doesn't know Jesus has not come to know the truth and all those who knew Jesus must be his disciples PREACHING and TEACHING what he taught. Matthew 28:18-20

So i ask you again:

Can someone who doesn't preach Jesus know the truth about God? smiley
well if you insist dum dum, paul grundy and i are preachers,
but of course that is usually referring to pastors etc. isn't it false jw


i told you mad max:

you will be forever more, cowardly and running away from the truth in confusion and babble
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 7:34am On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Surely you don't even know what blasphemy is because if you do you won't be accusing the one and only organization that's teaching imperfect humans to yield positivity regarding the fruit of God's Holy Spirit! Galatians 5:22-23 smiley
extremely dum lost false jw mad max

your saying that olaadegbu, emusan and myself are the same person
and saying that the Holy Spirit told you that, is indeed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit
making out the Holy Spirit is a liar:

lost blasphemer false jw mad max:

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Christianity EtcRe: Is Rapture Real ? by johnw47: 7:22am On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Does he believe in any ministry that's preaching God's word? smiley
lost false jw mad max

i'm not an encyclopedia on paul grundy,

so you cannot give evidence that paul grundy doesn't have faith in the Bible,
of course you don't oh fraud:

Mat_7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Rapture Real ? by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
Do you know where the word RAPTURE is found written in the Bible? smiley
lost false jw mad max

you will be forever more, cowardly and running away from the truth in confusion and babble:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 7:00am On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
I just told you the fruit of God's Holy Spirit and how a group (Jehovah's Witnesses) are yielding it globally but you're bent on ACCUSING this wonderful group.
So you are the accuser of God's people who is empty-headed yet thinking he knew something.
The fruit of the spirit of God is LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, FAITH and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23} this is what Apostle Paul said the Christians should promote anywhere they are because against such things there is no law!
So if you don't know any group performing in this regard yet accusing the one and only organization meeting up with this assignment then it's the ADVERSARY you're working for! 1Peter 5:8
lost false jw mad max

truly most dum one, blaspheming the Holy Spirit is not the fruit of the Holy Spirit:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Christianity EtcRe: Is Rapture Real ? by johnw47: 6:54am On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
So there's no reason to believe what is not in the Bible anyway you can't be blamed since you do swallow anything that comes your way hook line and sinker.
lost false jw mad max

rapture the event is in the Bible, but you are a liar forever in the order of satan the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse: For example you said:

i believe jwfacts
you should have quoted more oh deceiver:

johnw47: i believe jwfacts..com and carm..org etc. have honestly quoted jw publications
MaxInDHouse: Whereas the owner Paul Grundy doesn't have faith in the Bible! smiley
give evidence that paul grundy doesn't have faith in the Bible, oh lost deceiver
Christianity EtcRe: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by johnw47: 6:40am On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
How can a person who doesn't believe in God's word have the truth?

Paul Grundy is not a preacher of God's word so how can he have the truth? cheesy
lost false jw mad max

show evidence that paul grundy doesn't believe in God's word,

one doesn't have to be a preacher to have the truth oh as dum as they come liar:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Rapture Real ? by johnw47: 6:27am On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
So RAPTURE is just an idea promoted by some religionists it's nowhere to be found in God's word.
Thank you! smiley
lost false jw mad max

i answered that the word rapture isn't in the Bible, and i also said it's a real event,
and look what a deceiver and liar you are, saying that i said other:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

johnw47:
it isn't, but it's a real event,
Christianity EtcRe: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by johnw47: 6:19am On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
You said you BELIEVE him.
So what is the name of his church? smiley
lost false jw mad max

find out for yourself oh running away from the truth false jw:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 6:16am On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
You can continue deceiving yourself but it's clear that Jehovah's Witnesses are doing the work Jesus assigned to his disciples which is preaching and teaching people everywhere to have faith in God's Kingdom {Matthew 28:19-20} and many have vowed never to raise weapons against their neighbors or learn war anymore! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3
That's what they are supposed to achieve even though they don't fully understand everything Jesus said in the spirit! John 21:22-23 smiley
lost false jw mad max

i am not deceiving myself oh false accuser, i know for a fact that you and janosky blasphemed the Holy Spirit
making Him out to be a liar, etc., and so you are certainly not doing the work of Jehovah, you people are abominable etc.:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Rapture Real ? by johnw47: 6:09am On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Do you know where the word RAPTURE is found written in the Bible? smiley
lost false jw mad max

it isn't, but it's a real event, and you are a coward, forever asking silly questions to run away from the truths that have been posted:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Christianity EtcRe: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by johnw47: 6:02am On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
You dodged the question! smiley
OK i'm making it easier for everyone to see your folly.
Please mention a reputable preacher on Jwfacts.com so that we can all know that the group are real believers not enemies of truth! John 3:19 smiley
lost false jw mad max

dodging a question from you; a blasphemer of the Holy Spirit, that'll be the day oh puffed up one

of course i often don't reply to you satan's mob, except to show up some of your very many lies etc.

paul grundy is the owner of jwfacts..com which has nothing to do with anything
you are just still running away in confusion and babbel from all the truth i have posted:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 5:50am On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
If Jesus in the first century said:
“I am the resurrection and the life. The one who exercises faith in me, even though he dies, will come to life;  and everyone who is living and exercises faith in me will never die at all. Do you believe this?” John 11:25-26
But none among them is still living here on this planet today then Jehovah's Witnesses are right that he is the one leading their group since 1914 because what you quoted in their publications is exactly what Jesus said back then, he never mentioned any specific date rather he raised the hope of his listeners and many of them had a wrong expectation just as they does today! John 21:22-23 smiley
truly lost false jw mad max

it isn't Jesus who is leading you false prophets and blasphemers of the Holy Spirit etc.

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Christianity EtcRe: Is Rapture Real ? by johnw47: 4:58am On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Here is the title of this thread:
"Is RAPTURE real?"
Ọmọ the first thing a true Christian should do is quote where it's found written in the scriptures not perambulating trying to wrap it up with God's word.
So i put it to you that you're just seeking my attention and you can't have it .
If you don't know where the word RAPTURE is written in God's word then it's not real.
Simple as ABC
! wink
Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at
Pro_10:10  He who winks the eye causes trouble,
Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;


lost false jw mad max

simpleton, the rapture certainly is real, no matter what name you call it by:

1Co 15:51  Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, 
1Co 15:52  in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

1Th 4:16  For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 
1Th 4:17  Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 

that of course never happened in 1878 as prophecised by you false jw's:

Jesus' invisible presence commenced in 1874, the rapture would be 1878, and the end of the world was to occur in 1914. (Watch Tower, 1906 July 15.)
and Jesus never returned in 1874 either, or 1914 or any other false date you people may have given,
and the end of the world never occurred in 1914 either:

Mat_7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Christianity EtcRe: The Identity Of Christ, God Himself Or The Son Of God? by johnw47:
Janosky:
* First screenshot evidence of Greek Aggelous meaning angel/messenger.
Angel is a messenger, Jesus is an angel.
LYING miscreant John W dunce.
lost fraud jw janosky

just more of your much repeated confusion and delusion and false accusing like the devil:

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

really Jesus is the messenger of God, not a created angelic being
Jesus/the Word, created the angels and all that is created:

Joh 1:3  All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

angel
aggelos
ang'-el-os
a messenger; a angel; a pastor

God is not a anelic being and so neither is His only begotten Son, He is God's messenger


Janosky: *2nd screenshot evidence
Your early church Fathers were your Trinitarian mentors and godfathers.
Your Trinitarian godfathers believed that Jesus Christ is archangel Michael.
like i have said many times, i don't have trinitarian mentors and godfathers
but like i also keep saying; you cannot stop lying like your daddy the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Janosky: taylormarshall..com ›
Is the Angel of the Lord the Pre-Incarnate Christ?
"The Greek Church Fathers (for example, Saint Athanasius) are convinced that “the Angel of the Lord” is the pre-incarnate Christ."
The Bart Ehrman Blog
ehrmanblog..org › pauls-vie...
"Jesus as an Angel
But where does it say that Jesus was an angel before he was born on Earth? ... And yes, church Fathers did indeed talk about Christ as the Angel of the Lord."
topicsinbiblicalstudies.com
topicsinbiblicalstudies..com › ...
Jesus identified Himself as the angel of the Lord - Topics in Biblical Studies
31 Jul 2024 — "Jesus identified Himself as the angel of the Lord when He said that the Father had given Him the Father's name, when He said that the Father was in Him."


John W LYING miscreant ,3 screenshot evidences against you.
grin grin grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



lost fraud jw janosky, you false jw's are conditioned to believe the words of men
try proving your points with the word of God

quote the lies i have posted,
you such a false accuser like the devil, of course:

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.
Christianity EtcRe: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by johnw47: 11:22pm On Nov 21, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
That's a lie!
People may deceive themselves thinking they are smart but there has never been a time the Good News of PEACE about Jesus' Kingdom was preached by peace loving people to this extent globally! Matthew 24:14
So don't allow anyone to continue deceiving you!
lost false jw mad max

false prophecies and blasphemies of the Holy Spirit is not good news
you are deluded, of course

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Christianity EtcRe: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by johnw47: 11:09pm On Nov 21, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Thank you o!
Just imagine what happened to Jesus' disciples in the first century:
Jesus said to (Peter): “If it is my will for (John) to remain until I come, of what concern is that to you? You continue following me.” So the saying went out among the brothers that this disciple would not die. However, Jesus did not say to him that he would not die, but he said: “If it is my will for him to remain until I come, of what concern is that to you?” John 21:22-23
Note the rumor that was going about in the first century even among Jesus' disciples, does that not tell you that there is a big difference between what is said and what people thought? undecided
lost false jw mad max

so you don't understand that scripture, of course
and your lying and blaspheming the Holy Spirit etc. shows that you false jw's are nothing like Jesus disciples
you are deluded

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 11:00pm On Nov 21, 2024
How 1919 is Derived; jwfacts..com


giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


Evil Slave

Watchtower has been strongly critical of followers that left during this period, and spent almost a century describing them as the "evil slave class.” (Note: the doctrine of whom the evil slave class changed in 2013)

"The modern-day history of Jehovah's witnesses shows that attempts have been made by some, making up an "evil slave" class, to assume control over Jehovah's work and his people." Watchtower 1971 Jul 15 p.437

Many Watchtower followers left during this the period after 1914, recognising Watchtower as a false prophet, falsely teaching that the New System would arrive in 1914.

Prominent members removed themselves from the organisation as well, taking offence at the leadership of Rutherford.

"Following Brother Russell’s death, some who had been prominently associated with the organization fell away." Jehovah's Witnesses-Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.257

After the death of Russell, Rutherford took control of The Watch Tower Society. In his will, Russell had outlined a list of 5 recommended names for the Editorial Committee. ("Will and Testament of Charles Taze Russell" Watchtower 1915 Dec 1 reprints p.5999) Despite not being on this preferred list, Rutherford took leadership, and enforced this through a legal battle against the other directors.

Rutherford went on to commission the printing of The Finished Mystery without obtaining the permission of the directors, as required by the Watchtower charter.

"At noon, July 17, 1917, this book was released at the Bethel dining room table. As Brother Russell had been accustomed to do, Brother Rutherford gave a present of this book to each member of the Bethel family. It came as a bombshell. Completely surprised by its release, the opposing members of the board of directors immediately seized upon this issue and made it the occasion of a five-hour controversy over the administration of the Society's affairs." Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose p.70

Watchtower has used the term evil slave to vilify those followers that could not in good conscience align themselves with an organisation that have proven itself to be a false prophet, and attack the directors that could not align themselves with its new leader that aggressively took control and introduced new doctrine that were far fetched, law breaking, and are even more embarrassing to read today.

The period 1914 to 1919 is the low point of their history, yet now described as the time that Jesus chose them to lead his organisation. 1914 had proven to be false prophecy, with not a single prediction for that year taking place. In 1916, the founder, Pastor Russell, died and Rutherford took leadership in a hostile takeover embroiled in legal battles. From there he launched a platform to dramatically change the religion over the next two decades.

It should be a matter of grave concern for each of Jehovah's Witnesses that the underlying doctrine for 1919, the year so key to their leadership's authoritarian claims, rests on such baseless Scriptural and historical manipulation.
Christianity EtcRe: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by johnw47: 10:56pm On Nov 21, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Jwfacts belongs to the enemies of Jehovah's Witnesses it's like taking information from the Judaists to judge Jesus and his disciples instead of hearing from his disciples directly.
For instance do you personally know anyone who is a reputable preacher on Jwfacts?
Paul said:
Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine. Abstain from every form of wickedness. 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22
So try to verify everything not just swallowing everything from one source without listening to the other side.
lost false jw mad max

of course you don't believe your own publications, they are very embarrassing to you false jw's, aren't they,
you could go elsewhere and get with the truth, but no, your father the devil has you puffed up ones hooked:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 10:49pm On Nov 21, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said:
"Anyone believing in me will never die" John 11:26
Where are those believing in him back then?
lost false jw mad max

i have already explained, but you are so dum

Joh 11:25  Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies, 
Joh 11:26  and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?" 

Jesus is prophesising about the gathering to Him at His second coming
which hasn't happened yet by the way, and didn't happen in 1914 or on false jw's other false dates

those who died in Christ will be resurrected and those alive in Christ at His seconf coming will never die

also when a person comes to faith in Christ he is made alive spiritually,
he will never die spiritually

the saved are described as being not dead, but asleep:

Mat_27:52  The tombs were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised;

Joh_11:11  ... "Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I go, so that I may awaken him out of sleep."

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