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Kingsempires:
is this news Truth or that was just some rumor moving about

read about so called Jehovah's witnesses for yourself
at this site jwfacts..com

just one dot of course

How 1919 is Derived; jwfacts..com

Rutherford's Imprisonment

Whilst Watchtower spins the jailing of Rutherford and his associates as "Babylonish" captivity, the reason they were jailed was for sedition. The Finished Mystery vilified other religions and encouraged sedition against the United States government.

"In Shaffer v. United States (9th Cir. 1919), the defendant was found guilty of possessing and mailing copies of the book, The Finished Mystery , which contained the passage, “standing opposite to these Satan has placed [a] certain delusion which is best described by the word patriotism, but which is in reality murder, the spirit of the very devil. [If] you say it is a war of defense against wanton and intolerable aggression, I must reply that [it] has yet to be proved that Germany has any intention or desire of attacking us. [The] war itself is wrong. Its prosecution will be a crime. There is not a question raised, an issue involved, a cause at stake, which is worth the life of one blue-jacket on the sea or one khaki-coat in the trenches.” The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that “the service may be obstructed by attacking the justice of the cause for which the war is waged, and by undermining the spirit of loyalty which inspires men to enlist or to register for conscription in the service of their country” (Stone)." academic.evergreen.edu (As of June 2007)

"After their trialsome period of 1917-1919, Jehovah’s people subjected themselves to scrutiny. Realizing that they had acted in ways that did not meet with God’s approval, they sought forgiveness in prayer repenting of their former course. This led to Jehovah’s forgiveness and blessing. One compromise had been the cutting of pages from The Finished Mystery, this to please those who had assumed the position of censor. Another occurred when The Watch Tower of June 1, 1918, stated: "In accordance with the resolution of Congress of April 2nd, and with the proclamation of the President of the United States of May 11, it is suggested that the Lord’s people everywhere make May 30th a day of prayer and supplication." Subsequent comments lauded the United States and did not harmonize with the Christian position of neutrality." Yearbook 1975 p.119

The Finished Mystery quote above was page 251 of the 1917 edition. Rather than stand fast to its beliefs and principles, Watchtower meekly followed the United States governmental ordered to remove pages 247 to 254 from The Finished Mystery.

In the 1918 edition, the section covering the sub-heading “Out of the mouth of the dragon” was reduced from 5 pages to 1 paragraph. Click here for a PDF scan of the pages from the 1917 edition that were removed from the 1918 edition.

Watchtower was not imprisoned for preaching truth about God’s Kingdom; it was for taking side in politics. Their release was equally a violation of their principles, a result of complying with the government order to change what they had printed. Neither action showed them to be spiritually cleansed.



giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

MaxInDHouse:
Just as millions of Jews are saying Jesus is fake because they don't understand what he said!

lost false jw mad max

i understand what you said, i have read your lies, i have read your blasphemy, etc. etc. etc.


false jw, you are just showing your cowardice in many posts, running from the truth in babbel and confusion:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

MaxInDHouse:
So you are now saying what you thought Jesus should have said which could be translated in different ways based on the mindset of each listener or reader!

lost false jw mad max

no i didn't say that at all, you are still babbling and confused as an excuse to run away from truth:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

MaxInDHouse:
Just as millions of Jews are saying Jesus is fake because they don't understand what he said!

oh duh confused and lost false jw mad max

millions of Jews saying Jesus is fake because they don't understand what he said,
doesn't mean you are being misunderstood concerning your false prophecies, your lies, your confusion, your babble, your blaspheming, etc.

you false jw's are so dum post after post, aren't you:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

MaxInDHouse:
You're still laying accusations unverified!
I have heard such allegations a thousand times while i was still studying the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses before becoming one of them.
What i'm asking you is not how they were accused but to quote one of their publications in which it's written word for word e.g.
On the 21th of November 2024 RAPTURE will take place!
Or
RAPTURE will happen on the 21th of November 2024!
What i've noticed in people's version of what JWs said in their publications not exactly what they said which means it's what people thought they said not exactly what they said.
For instance John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth both said in the first century:
"Repent for God's Kingdom is at hand" Matthew 3:2; 4:17
Any listener could translate what they said as God's Kingdom will come in the next five to ten years.
Jesus also told a disciple:
“I am the resurrection and the life. The one who exercises faith in me, even though he dies, will come to life; and everyone who is living and exercises faith in me will never die at all. Do you believe this?” John 11:25-26
Any listener can interpret this as Jesus saying all those believing in him that day will never die again! John 21:22-23
So try to quote what was written in their book word for word.
Thank you in advance!

lost false jw mad max

you can look up the publications for yourself, i believe the quotes i have read and posted are accurate,
and i believe jwfacts..com and carm..org etc. have honestly quoted jw publications,
you are just fearfully running from the truth, of course:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

MaxInDHouse:
Just as his utterances confused many even his disciples because they weren't perfect same is happening today but what Jesus promised that his disciples will achieve globally is noticeable throughout the earth today.
Only faithful, humble and righteous people can grasp this! Zephaniah 2:2-3

lost false jw mad max

the achievements people notice about you false jw's is your false prophecies, your lies, your confusion,
your babble, your blaspheming, etc.

you are deluded to the max

false jw's:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse:
Did they have faith in Jesus that day?
Are they still living today?

lost false jw mad max

1. did who have faith in Jesus on what day?
2. are who living today?

false jw, you are talking babble to run away from the truths i posted, of course:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

MaxInDHouse:
Quote a publication of JWs that mentioned a specific date and say RAPTURE will take place that day!

most confused and lost false jw mad max

Watch Tower, 1906 July 15 said that the rapture would be in 1878, that's a false prophecy for a specific year,
a specific day and a specific month isn't needed to make it a false prophecy oh dum one

Jesus' invisible presence commenced in 1874, the rapture would be 1878, and the end of the world was to occur in 1914. (Watch Tower, 1906 July 15.)

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

MaxInDHouse:
Can you quote any publication where God's people gave a specific date?
Thanks in advance!

oh duh most dum lost false jw mad max

i have posted so many specific failed dates given by your false jw org publications, once again talk about being blinded, you certainly are

3 specific date failures:

1. watchtower claimed that Jesus returned in 1874,
2. watchtower claimed that the rapture would be in 1878,
3. watchtower claimed that the end of the world was to occur in 1914

Jesus' invisible presence commenced in 1874, the rapture would be 1878, and the end of the world was to occur in 1914. (Watch Tower, 1906 July 15.)

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

MaxInDHouse:
In the year 33 this is what happened:
Jesus said to her: “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who exercises faith in me, even though he dies, will come to life; and everyone who is living and exercises faith in me will never die at all. Do you believe this?" John 11:25-26
If Jesus in the year 33[/b] could say the above and none of those who heard him and strongly believe in him are no more today please why criticize his group that's saying exactly the same thing in the [b]year 1924?
Surely most of you don't understand certain things but just arguing blindly because it's exactly what Jesus said in the year 33 that his group kept saying in the year 1924!

Joh 11:25  Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies, 
Joh 11:26  and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?" 

very dum and confused lost false jw mad max, talk about blinded

everyone who believes in Jesus though he die will be resurrected to life, and those alive at that time having faith will never die
same as: 1Th 4:15-17 
the dead in Christ will be resurrected and those alive with faith will never die

deceiver false jw, that above is not the same as your false jw rutherford saying:

1. The World Has Ended — Millions Now Living Will Never Die
2. the earthly resurrection would commence 1925
3. with the return to life of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob


2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

Janosky:
Your Trinitarian godfathers

lost fraud jw janosky

i don't have trinitarian godfathers, but of course you can never stop lying like your father the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Janosky: believed that Jesus Christ is an ANGEL OF THE LORD JEHOVAH , Genesis 16:7.
Screenshot evidence in agreement with Psalm 103:20 & John 14:24, Jesus Christ an angel DOING & SPEAKING the words and command of Jehovah God his Father like other angels sent on a mission.)
Jesus Christ is an angel & morning Star alongside other sons of God who rejoiced at creation.

lost false jw

Jesus is a messenger for His Father

Jesus/the Word, made all that is made which includes the angels,
God and the Word made man

Joh 1:3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

gen 1:26 "Let Us make man in Our image"

Janosky: Jehovah God @ Job 38:7. Job 2:1. Job 1:6 OMITTED your 3 deities invented at Nicene.
John W MUMU Dunce no want him brain to function.

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw, no need blaspheming the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit all over the place, you are lost from the very first time:

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Janosky: your 3 deities

i don't have 3 deities/3 gods, and neither is the Christians Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible
3 deities/3 gods, but you clearly love repeating your lies and blasphemies:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


"Millions now living will never die!" was exclaimed by Rutherford in a series of public lectures starting 1918. This was related to his prophecy that the earthly resurrection would commence 1925, with the return to life of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and became the focus of the preaching work in the following years.

This article provides quotes regarding Rutherford's failed doctrine, and shows how in recent times Watchtower dishonestly presents this historical episode.

The failure of Watchtower's 1914 predictions for the end of this system, and death of Russell in 1916, left his followers in disarray. After legalistic wrangling,1 Rutherford became Watchtower's next President. Credit must go to Rutherford for his ability to rebuild the religion. He was able to re-ignite urgency into the remaining followers by announcing through public discourse in February 1918 that "The World Has Ended - Millions Now Living May Never Die!" In March 1918, the title was changed to the more compelling “The World Has Ended — Millions Now Living Will Never Die!”2

In 1920, this message was released in the booklet, Millions Now Living Will Never Die! This was further expounded in 1921 in Rutherford's first book, The Harp of God, which carried on the cover the inscription, "Proof Conclusive that Millions now Living will never Die". In 1924, the children's book The Way to Paradise made a number of outlandish predictions for 1925 and life in the New System.

Janosky:
They claim that 3 deities are referenced at Genesis 1:26

lost fraud jw janosky

i must have missed that, post the quote or link

no, you just lying, as always:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse:
Some faithless people often say God's modern day worshipers are false prophets because they keep on doing what John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth did during their lifetime.
John and Jesus said some 2,000 years ago:
"Repent for God's Kingdom is at hand" [Matthew 3:2; 4:17} what is the meaning of "at hand"?
If John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth could say God's Kingdom is at hand or will soon be here should we consider the both of them to be FALSE PROPHETS since it's been 2,000 years now and still counting or we need to figure out what they meant by that statement?

lost false jw mad max

truly Jesus and john the baptist are not false prophets, but you so called jehovah's witnesses are,
you give specific dates for certain things to take place which fail, i will post some more in this thread soon

Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Janosky:
The angels were present @ Genesis 1:26 because they rejoiced at the creation @ Job 38:4-7.

lost fraud jw janosky

whether angels witnessed the creation of man or not, they did not make man with God, the Word did
"Let Us make man in Our image"

Janosky: Jesus the Personified Wisdom (@Prov 8:22-30) & morning Star ((@Revelation 22:16 ) is fond of man.
Do you rejoice at what you are fond of?
Yes nau.

dum false jw, the Word made the angels and everything else that was made:

Joh 1:3  All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 

Janosky: Angels exist in the image of God.

so does man, but man never made man either oh dum dum

Janosky: John W MUMU Dunce forming woke.

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


talk about a mumu dunce, you are the king of all, aren't you oh false accuser like your daddy the devil:

Rev 12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

MaxInDHouse:
They often say God's modern day worshipers are false prophets because they keep on doing what John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth did during their lifetime.
John and Jesus said some 2,000 years ago:
"Repent for God's Kingdom is at hand" [Matthew 3:2; 4:17} what is the meaning of "at hand"?
If John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth could say God's Kingdom is at hand or will soon be here should we consider the both of them to be FALSE PROPHETS since it's been 2,000 years now and still counting or we need to figure out what they meant by that statement?

lost false jw mad max

truly Jesus and john the baptist are not false prophets, but you so called jehovah's witnesses are,
you give specific dates for certain things to take place, would you like me to post some in this thread?

Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Janosky:
"US" @ Isaiah 6:6-8 & Genesis 1:26 are angels,not your 3 deities invented at Nicene.
Verse 6, Jehovah sent angels to prophet Isaiah.
Angels, one of the "US", the divine assembly of Psalm 82:1.
@ Job 1:6 & Job 2:1, did Jehovah hold a meeting with your 3 deities?
No !!!!
Jesus Christ (the leader of angels @ 1 Thess 4:16 & Matt 25:31) & other Angels are "US" @ Genesis 1:26.
John W empty dummy.
Job 38:1,4,7
"Then Jehovah answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if thou hast understanding.
7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?"
Bible Evidence 1:
Did Jehovah say that your 3 deities rejoiced @ Job 38:4-7?
Bible Evidence 2:
Did Jehovah hold a meeting with your 3 deities @ Job 1:6 & 2:1?
From Genesis to Revelation,Not even one record of Jehovah holding meetings with your 3 deities,
John W MUMU Dunce

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


truly as dum as they come lost fraud jw janosky, God said "Let Us make man in our image" to the Word
and not to angels, angels created nothing with God

and of course you love to blaspheme the Christians Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit of the Bible, repeatedly calling Them
3 deities which is 3 gods,
you couldn't blaspheme them often enough in your post (5 times), could you oh lost one, you will surely have your reward:

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.


the angels cheering at the creation of the earth is nothing to do with God saying "Let us make man in Our image"

your confusion of the scriptures is amazingly satanic:
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

gohf:
not sure what your argument with him is on, but Rev 12:10 is just another proof of consistency that Jesus is the son of God, the Christ the anointed one of God, anointed and chosen by God Almighty Jehovah the creator and maker of heavens and earth

lost false Jw janosky (blasphemer of the Holy Spirit), often falsely accuses people,
i have stated often that in the beginning there were two; God and the Word of God, not three
so when janonsense the liar falsely accuses me of being trinitarian, i post rev 12:10 for the false accuser

How 1919 is Derived; jwfacts..com

Teachings from this book (The Finished Mystery, authorized for publication by Rutherford) include that the last days started in 1799, Jesus second coming was 1874, and that in 1918 the churches would fall and the anointed raised to heaven. It was said that Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, whilst the rider of the white horse is the Pope. The glory of the angel of Revelation 18:1 refers to modern discoveries such as correspondence schools, celluloid, Divine Plan of the Ages, talking machines, vacuum cleaners, induction motors, pasteurization, Panama Canal, shoe sewing machines, subways, skyscrapers, Roentgen rays and Leviathan is the locomotive. The size of the Great pyramid confirms the harvest had begun, and the distance from the place where The Finished Mystery was produced in Scranton to its shipping destination New York City was predicted by Revelation 14:20.

The main focus of Millions Now Living Will Never Die was presentation of the teaching that the end would arrive in 1925, with Abraham being resurrected onto earth in that year. This is discussed in detail at 1925 - Millions Now Living Will Never Die.

The Golden Age, of which Woodworth was editor, was filled with an incredible amount of inaccurate pop science and childish doctrine, some of which is quoted at Medical Advice.

None of these journals presented cleansed spiritual food, but rather fanciful doctrine and lies.


giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

the catholic church and many churches have false teachings, just as sects like the so called Jehovah's witnesses do,
the catholic church preach more about mary than about Jesus and Father God

and the so called Jehovah's witnesses make repeated false prophecies /false date settings etc.
they say Jesus returned at various dates, you see maxindhouse said Jesus returned in 1914
false jw's also said Jesus came in 1874

"Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus is present and has been since 1874;…" Watchtower 1924 Jan 1 p.5)

^^ there is not the slightest room for doubt about 1874 according to those truly consecrated jw's

Mat_7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.



of course Christians of faith know the second coming of Christ is still future:

Rev 1:7  Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen.

giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

How 1919 is Derived; jwfacts..com

Watchtower points to three highlights during this period - the release of the book The Finished Mystery in 1917, the lecture Millions Now Living Will Never Die in 1918 and subsequent brochure, and the periodic journal The Golden Age in 1919.

“In the latter half of 1917 the faithful forefront preachers of the ‘discreet slave’ class energetically took up distribution of TheFinished Mystery, for within seven months the Society’s outside printers were busy on the 850,000 edition. ‘The sale of the Seventh Volume is unparalleled by the sale of any other book known, in the same length of time, excepting the Bible.’” Watchtower 1955 Apr 1 p.206

"1918 The discourse “The World Has Ended — Millions Now Living May Never Die” is first delivered, on February 24, in Los Angeles, California. On March 31, in Boston, Massachusetts, the talk is entitled “The World Has Ended — Millions Now Living Will Never Die”" Jehovah's Witnesses-Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.719

"A highly significant step toward correcting this situation was taken in 1919 when the magazine The Golden Age began publication. This was to become a powerful instrument for publicizing the Kingdom of God as the only lasting solution to the problems of mankind." Jehovah's Witnesses-Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.212

All three of these publications are shocking for a Jehovah’s Witnesses to read today.

The Finished Mystery needs to be read to be believed, as it is the low point in Watchtower publications, with the doctrine it promoted now rejected almost in entirety. Second hand copies can still be found for sale online, or scanned versions can be downloaded from archive.org/details/TheFinishedMystery. The title page claims it to be "The posthumous work of Pastor Russell," though it was written by Woodworth and Fisher and authorized for publication by Rutherford.

Janosky:
Have you studied Job 38:1-7 & Isaiah 44:24 ?
Was Jehovah God denying Jesus Christ @ Job 38:1-7 , Isaiah 44:24 & Genesis 1:27?
"US" @ Genesis 1:26 is the same "US" @ Isaiah 6:6-8?
"US " are the divine assembly of holy ones rejoicing in applause @ Job 38:4-7.
John W MUMU ,Trinitarian misinterpretation of Genesis 1:26 made you empty dummy.

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



Gen 1:26  Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image,

truly most dum and lost fraud jw janosky

Yahovah didn't make man with the holy angels
yahovah made man, and all of creation with the Word/Jesus Christ Who is the image of God:

Joh 1:3  All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

2Co 4:4  in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.


false jw, what a confusion you make of scriptures, which you don't understand,
the angels cheering when the earth is being created is not to do with gen 1:26,
which is God saying to the Word: "let Us make man in Our image"

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints


and like your daddy the devil you can never stop lying and falsely accusing, can you, of course:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

achorladey:
The major reality Jehovah's witnesses all over the world have their brains manipulated not to think well about and eyes coloured not to see. The grand fraud and delusion put in place to make them believe a religious organization set up by a man and his associates in late 1800 is Jehovah's organization and only channel God is using to communicate grand lies and delusions

there are none more gullible, are there

How 1919 is Derived; jwfacts..com

If Jesus did inspect Watchtower in 1919, what he found was not a cleansed organisation teaching truth, rather his inspection would have revealed a group promoting that:

The "Last Days" started in 1799 and the 1800s were the worst time period of all history

Jesus presence commenced in 1874
Jesus had begun ruling in 1878
Armageddon had occurred in 1914
Blood was acceptable as food for Christians
Jesus should be prayed to and worshipped, as well as Jehovah
The Great Crowd were a heavenly class
Birthdays and Christmas were acceptable celebrations
The cross was on the cover of the Watchtower
Teachings adapted from 1800's religious preachers and the Adventist movement, such as that pyramids and astrology supported 1914
Strong Zionist support for a new nation of Israel in fulfilment of Bible prophecy
The Faithful and Discreet Slave was not the anointed, but rather Pastor Russell

By current standards, in 1919 Watchtower was very much an apostate organization.


giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

How 1919 is Derived; jwfacts..com

What Happened in 1919

Watchtower's other line of reasoning to support 1919 is historical, with the claim that it proved itself to have been chosen by Jesus as the only "clean" organization representing him.

Watchtower teaches the group went into Babylonish captivity between 1914 and 1918. This culminated with the directors of The Watch Tower Society being sent to prison.

"Modern historical evidence shows that during the world war of 1914-1918 the dedicated, baptized anointed remnant of Jehovah's Christian witnesses were brought into Babylonish captivity." Watchtower 1972 Dec 1 pp.724-725

Shortly after this, members of the Society’s administrative staff were arrested, and on June 21, 1918, they were sentenced to 20-year prison terms. The preaching of the good news came to a virtual standstill. Jehovah's Witnesses-Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.211

In 1919, Jehovah released them.

"1919 The Society’s officers and associates are released on bail, on March 26;" Jehovah's Witnesses-Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.720
"Comparably, after a Babylonish captivity, the anointed remnant was delivered in 1919, and under the guidance of God's spirit, the once desolate "soil" of spiritual Israel has been cleansed." Watchtower 1988 Sep 15 p.15

The reason Jehovah supported the Watchtower leaders, as "proven" by their released, is because they were cleansed, wholly theocratic, and providing spiritual food.

"This was especially seen during the World War I period. Jehovah, however, has cleansed his organization, and made it wholly theocratic." Watchtower 1971 Jul 15 p.437

“‘On arriving’ to inspect the ‘slave’ in 1918, Christ found a spirit-anointed remnant of faithful disciples who since 1879 had been using this journal [the Watchtower] and other Bible-based publications to provide spiritual ‘food at the proper time.’ He acknowledged them as his collective instrument, or ‘slave,’ and in 1919 entrusted them with the management of all his earthly belongings.” Watchtower 2007 Apr 1 p.22

There is absolutely no basis to any of these statements. There is no evidence of a selection by Jesus and no cleansing of doctrine. They still used the cross, celebrated birthdays and Christmas, and followed a body of doctrine vastly different to today.

giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

How 1919 is Derived; jwfacts..com

Watchtower has greatly simplified its publications in the twenty-first century, and the effort it makes to justify 1919 is a case in point. The 2018 publication Pure Worship of Jehovah - Restored at Last! devotes a section to providing "evidence" that "God's people" were chosen in 1919.

The book Pure Worship claims there is Biblical and Historical evidence behind the 1919 doctrine, yet no effort is made to present any Biblical reasoning for the year 1919, and the historical evidence is quaint at most.

Janosky:
@ Genesis 1:26 Yahweh was talking to other spirit beings dwelling in the spiritual 5realm

lost fraud jw janosky

you people sure love to deny the Word/Jesus Christ,
and because you don't understand scripture, you contradict God's word all over the place


Gen 1:26  Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image,

God did not say; “Let us make man in our image", to other spirit beings dwelling in the spiritual realm
God said; “Let us make man in our image", to the Word, Whom He made all things through:

Joh 1:3  God created everything through him, and nothing was created except through him.

Joh 1:10  He came into the very world he created, but the world didn’t recognize him

Col 1:15  He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 
Col 1:16  For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him. 
Col 1:17  He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.




Mat_10:33  But everyone who denies me here on earth, I will also deny before my Father in heaven.

1Jn_2:23  Anyone who denies the Son doesn’t have the Father, either. But anyone who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

DoWhatThouWilt:
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they rape their children, but boast about not raiseing weapons against their neighbours,
they are a queer mob

MaxInDHouse: They have used God's word to resolve all the disparities among themselves peacefully, stop the making, buying, selling and using weapons among themselves, divert their resources into the production of food and information materials and vow never to raise weapons against their neighbors or learn war anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4

giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

How 1919 is Derived; jwfacts..com

Watchtower 2014 Nov 15 conjoins the 1260 days with the 3 1/2 days to arrive at 1919.

"How long did this inspection and cleansing take place. It extended from 1914 to the early part of 1919. This period of time includes both the 1,260 days (42 months) and the symbolic three and a half days referred to in Revelation chapter 11." Watchtower 2014 Nov 15 p.30

This is nonsense, since Watchtower presents the 1260 days as literal, but the 3 1/2 days as symbolic, yet adds them together to support the period of time from 1914 to 1919. The timeline graphically highlights the discrepancy by a multiple of 75 in the time frame of the figurative 3 1/2 days and literal 1,260 days.

The timeline does not provides a specific start and end date for the 1260 days, because they do not align with any specific occurrence, as detailed at 1260 days.

giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

How 1919 is Derived; jwfacts..com


"How long did this respite for the seed of God’s woman last? Revelation 12:6 says 1,260 days. Revelation 12:14 calls the period a time, times, and half a time; in other words, three and a half times. In fact, both expressions stand for three and a half years, extending in the Northern Hemisphere from the spring of 1919 to the autumn of 1922. This was a period of refreshing recuperation and reorganization for the restored John class. ... After 1922 Satan spewed out a flood of persecution against the Witnesses." Revelation - It's Grand Climax pp.184-185

Does anyone really believe that what happened to Jehovah's Witnesses in 1922, a period no one is alive to remember, is fulfilment of Revelation prophecy?

Not a single step in the process above that is used to arrive at 1919 is at all compelling, most of the reasoning is in fact illogical or of no basis.

The following table is taken from the Ministerial Training School notes conducted during the mid 2000's.

In 2013, this teaching was simplified by removing 1918 from the equation.

"To settle that question, Jesus began to inspect the spiritual temple in 1914. That inspection and cleansing work involved a period of time—from 1914 to the early part of 1919.[3] ... Endnotes:... Paragraph 6: [3] This is an adjustment in understanding. Previously, we thought that Jesus’ inspection took place in 1918." (Watchtower 2013 Jul 15 pp.11,14)

The article explains that since Jesus cleansed the temple twice, it shows an ongoing cleansing work between 1914 and 1919. However, this does nothing to clarify why 1919 has any Scriptural relevance, as no backing is given to support how long the cleansing would be for.

studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

more about the so called Jehovah's witnesses; jwfacts..com

Jesus said he would provide his followers Holy Spirit to correctly understand what the future holds.

"However, when that one arrives, the spirit of the truth, he will guide YOU into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own impulse, but what things he hears he will speak, and he will declare to YOU the things coming." John 16:13

Whereas doctrine is subjective and un-provable, time prophecy leaves no room for error. On a number of occasions the Watchtower put a line in the sand when saying a specific event was going to happen on a specific date. When those dates passed without event those statements proved beyond argument to be false. When something predicted to happen does not occur there is irrefutable evidence that Jehovah did not direct the interpretation. In line with the Scriptures above, the following incorrect dates prove the Watchtower Society is not guided by Jehovah.