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Christianity EtcRe: Part 4: Undeniable Evidence Of Christ's Deity Using NWT Bible by johnw47: 12:44am On Nov 16, 2024
Janosky:
MUMU kid enslaved by incurable delusion.
This kid infested with delusion and IBERIBEISM.
Ozuo Godtham MUMU in this era of information age & ICT advancement,yet your MUMU syndrome speaks louder than words.
grin grin grin grin grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


confused fraud jw janosky

u dum dum call elderly person "kid", of course;

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47:
Janosky:
John MUMU WAILING WAILER deceiving himself.
Go reconcile your 3 deities devotees displaying the conflicting doctrines given them by the same ghost deity on this thread.
grin grin cheesy
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

lost fraud jw janosky

truly, the Christian's Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible
is not 3 deities/3 gods as you love to blaspheme over and over again
and the Holy Spirit doesn't give conflicting doctrines as you also love to accuse Him of:
Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire



you people claim to be Jehovah's witness, yet when you lie like this all over the place
you make Jehovah Who you say you witness for, to be a liar

you people don't witness for Jehovah.
with all your lies, you are the devil's witnesses

Rev_20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 12:24am On Nov 16, 2024
giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

How 1919 is Derived; jwfacts..com

1. The "two witnesses" are supposed to parallel with the Faithful and Discreet Slave.

● Revelation 11 is the first mention of the two witnesses, and Watchtower matter of factly claims they parallel the faithful slave of Matthew.
There is no reason for such a link, other than wishful thinking.

2. Watchtower uses 1914 as the starting point for the 1260 days, the year Jesus is said to have commenced ruling in heaven.

● 1914 is not Scripturally supported as the start of Jesus heavenly reign, a topic in its own right.


3. Watchtower commences the 1260 days of Revelation 11:2,3 in December 1914. (re p.164) It ends the 1260 days of Revelation 11:2,3 in June 1918. During the period spanning 1914 to 1918, the temple is trampled, supposedly prefigured by the 3 1/2 years between Jesus' baptism and his throwing the money changers out of the temple. (re p.32) In June 1918, Jesus came to inspect his earthly organisation, culminating with the Watchtower board of directors being put in jail. (re pp.164,167)

● Jesus rulership was said to have commenced in October 1914, but the 42 months/1260 days are said to have started in December. There was no
explanation for the two month difference. This is simply overlooked, as Watchtower attempts to align a period of history that does not fit.

● 1260 days, 3 1/2 years or 42 months are all based on a 360 day lunar calendar, yet Watchtower applies it to a solar calendar.

4. After 9 months, in March 1919, the Watchtower board of directors were released. The 9 month period is based on the 3 1/2 days of Revelation 11:9-11. (re p.169)

● The 1260 days of Revelation 11 is said to be a literal 42 months, but the 3 1/2 days from the same passage is said to be figurative of 9
months. (3 1/2 years = 3 1/2 years … 3 1/2 days = 9 months)

5. This led to great fear amongst all other religions. (Revelation 11:11)

"There were truly great convulsions in the realm of religion. The ground seemed to move under the leaders of the established churches as this body of revivified Christians got to work." re p.170

● The release of Rutherford from jail was irrelevant to most people, and it can hardly be said that the result was that "great fear fell upon
those beholding them." (Rev 11:11)

6. The release of the Watchtower directors from prison in 1919 is supposed to correspond with Jesus appointing the Watchtower Governing Body as his slave.

"Anointed Christians who survived the testing period of 1914-19 were freed from the dominating influence of the world and from many Babylonish religious practices. The remnant went forward as a cleansed and refined people, willingly offering sacrifices of praise to God and having the assurance that they as a people were acceptable to him." Watchtower 1998 May 15 p.17

"In 1919 the cleansed slave class could look forward to ever-expanding activities." Watchtower 1993 May 1 p.16

There is no reason to think the release from prison of the Watchtower directors should indicate that Jesus had chosen them as his Faithful Slave. When they left prison, they continued preaching exactly the same doctrine as before prison, including the same falsehoods, such as that the end would arrive in 1925.

The release of the Watchtower directors from prison in 1919 is supposed to correspond with Jesus appointing the Watchtower Governing Body as his slave.

"Anointed Christians who survived the testing period of 1914-19 were freed from the dominating influence of the world and from many Babylonish religious practices. The remnant went forward as a cleansed and refined people, willingly offering sacrifices of praise to God and having the assurance that they as a people were acceptable to him." Watchtower 1998 May 15 p.17

"In 1919 the cleansed slave class could look forward to ever-expanding activities." Watchtower 1993 May 1 p.16

● There is no reason to think the release from prison of the Watchtower directors should indicate that Jesus had chosen them as his Faithful
Slave. When they left prison, they continued preaching exactly the same doctrine as before prison, including the same falsehoods, such as that the end would arrive in 1925.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47:
Janosky:
These screenshots evidence are irrefutable.
You are paying tithes to these gods of men & their fellow pulpit bandits controlling you.
John W LYING miscreant wedded to delusion and IBERIBEISM.
grin grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

i don't pay tithes to those men and no one man is controlling me

like i keep saying; you cannot stop lying and falsely accusing like your daddy the devil, can you:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

lost false jw, you posted your lying and confused babble post twice, you are drunk



you people claim to be Jehovah's witness, yet when you lie like this all over the place
you make Jehovah Who you say you witness for, to be a liar

you people don't witness for Jehovah.
with all your lies, you are the devil's witnesses

Rev_20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47:
Janosky:
John W Copy copy thief thief, can't you for once acknowledge the author of your GIBBERISH? Oga, come over here and continue WAILING. grin cheesy
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

my copying this info. isn't stealing, but you are forever the false accuser, of course:
Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

i gave the site the article is from "jwfacts..com"

if that isn't enough for you, then to bad for you oh most queer and confused one

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints




you people claim to be Jehovah's witness, yet when you lie like this all over the place
you make Jehovah Who you say you witness for, to be a liar

you people don't witness for Jehovah.
with all your lies, you are the devil's witnesses

Rev_20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 11:35pm On Nov 15, 2024
giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

How 1919 is Derived; jwfacts..com

Portentous emphasis is placed on 1919, this being the year that Jesus is said to have chosen Watchtower and its Governing Body to represent him on earth. Yet, the minimal Scriptural backing Watchtower uses to support this year is both flimsy and illogical.

1919 is described as a time of spiritual deliverance, the year the Watchtower Governing Body were appointed as the faithful slave.

"Since 1919 of our common era, the slave has been put in charge of some belongings of Christ." "In Whom Do You Trust?" Mar 2018, Gerrit Lösch jwb.201803-2.v
“The faithful and discreet slave” was appointed over Jesus’ domestics in 1919. That slave is the small, composite group of anointed brothers serving at world headquarters during Christ’s presence who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food. When this group work together as the Governing Body, they act as “the faithful and discreet slave.” jw.org 2012 Annual Meeting Report

"Similarly, starting in 1919, Jehovah brought forth the seed of the woman as a spiritual nation." Revelation - It's Grand Climax (re) p.184

"His eye has been upon them constantly since their spiritual deliverance in 1919." Watchtower 1994 Mar 1 p.17

Jehovah's Witnesses are told they cannot understand the Bible without the guidance of the 'faithful slave" that was chosen by Jesus in 1919. No scripture is referenced in many of these mentions of 1919, and Jehovah's Witnesses are expected to accept that the basis for the year 1919 has been explained elsewhere.

Is there Scriptural support that the year 1919 holds prophetic significance? The basis of 1919 relies almost entirely on Revelation chapter 11. Revelation 11 describes "two witnesses," a period of 1260 days, a period of 3 1/2 days, and great fear for the nations.

Revelation 11
"3 I will cause my two witnesses to prophesy for 1,260 days dressed in sackcloth.” ...
7 the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss will wage war with them and conquer them and kill them. ...
9 And those of the peoples and tribes and tongues* and nations will look at their corpses for three and a half days ...
11 After the three and a half days, spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell upon those who saw them.

The following outlines the steps Watchtower uses to justify why Revelation 11 applies to itself and Jesus' selection of its Governing Body in 1919. The bullet points identifying how each is a failure in logic. (Note that some of this reasoning changed in 2013, which will be discussed later.)

to continue
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47:
Janosky:
John W WAILING Hypocrite wedded to IBERIBEISM.
Did your pastorpreneur's 2016 "Naira will rise again" prophecy fulfilling in 2024?
By John W inference & yardstick, his pastorpreneur gods of men are fake prophets (screenshots evidence) with FALSE prophecies and FALSE teachers.
John MUMU WAILING Hypocrite .
lost fraud jw janosky

i don't have pastorpreneur's, god's of men, false prophets, or false teachers
but of course you lost blasphemers of the Holy Spirit don't care about your never ending lying, do you

you fraud jw's cannot ever stop lying, just like your father of lies the devil:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

of course many of those lies and false accusations you accuse others of are true of you oh false accuser , again like your father the devil:
Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

you people claim to be Jehovah's witness, yet when you lie like this all over the place
you make Jehovah Who you say you witness for, to be a liar

you people don't witness for Jehovah.
with all your lies, you are the devil's witnesses

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47:
giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15 "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

about the so called Jehovah's witnesses; wayoflife..org


False Prophecies

“And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the
word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet
speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not,
nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not
spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou
shalt not be afraid of him” (Deuteronomy 18:21-22).

Jehovah’s Witness leaders have marked themselves as false
teachers by their false prophecies.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 8:42am On Nov 15, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


about the so called Jehovah's witnesses; wayoflife..org


They prophesied that the millennium would begin in 1925.

“Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will
mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the
faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the
Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human
perfection” (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89).

“The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the
Scriptures than 1914” (The Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p.
262).

They prophesied that the millennium would begin in 1975.

“According to this trustworthy Bible chronology six
thousand years from man’s creation will end in 1975,
and the seventh period of a thousand years of human
history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E” (Life
Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God, Watch Tower
Bible and Tract Society, 1966, p. 29; the date is also
listed in chart on page 35; see also, The Watchtower,
Oct. 15, 1969, p. 623; The Approaching Peace of a
Thousand Years, pp. 26-27; Kingdom Ministry, March
1968, p. 4).

They prophesied that Armageddon would begin before the
end of the 20th century.

“Shortly, within our twentieth century, the ‘battle in the
day of Jehovah’ will begin against the modern antitype
of Jerusalem, Christendom” (The Nations Shall Know
That I Am Jehovah, 2nd ed. 1971, p. 216).
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 8:41am On Nov 15, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


about the so called Jehovah's witnesses; wayoflife..org


False Prophecies

“And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the
word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet
speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not,
nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not
spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou
shalt not be afraid of him” (Deuteronomy 18:21-22).

Jehovah’s Witness leaders have marked themselves as false
teachers by their false prophecies.

JW leaders prophesied that the millennium would began
in October 1872.

“We are already living in the seventh millennium —
since October 1872” (The Time Is At Hand, 1889; 1915
ed., p. 363; also Thy Kingdom Come, Watch Tower Bible
and Tract Society, 1905, p. 127).

They prophesied that the battle of Armageddon ended in
1914 and God’s kingdom began.

“ . . . the ‘ battle of the great day of God
Almighty’ (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D.
1914 with the complete overthrow of earth’s present
rulership, is already commenced” (The Time Is at Hand,
1908 edition, p. 101).

“In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the
Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established
truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world,
and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will
be accomplished at the end of A. D. 1914” (The Time Is
At Hand, 1889, 1908 ed., p. 99).

They prophesied that the kingdom of God would be
established in 1915.

“In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the
Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established
truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world,
and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will
be accomplished near the end of A.D. 1915” (The Time
Is At Hand, 1889, 1915 ed., p. 99; see also p. 242).
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 7:53am On Nov 14, 2024
giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


about the so called Jehovah's witnesses; wayoflife dot org

Jehovah’s Witnesses take their name from Isaiah 43:10-11,
which actually refers to Israel.

“I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no
saviour. I have declared, and have saved, and I have
shewed, when there was no strange god among you:
therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I
am God” (Isaiah 43:11-12).

Those who leave the JWs are called apostates. They are
completely shunned. The JWs do not talk to them or have
anything to do with them. In fact, they are to be hated.

^^ many sects hate those that leave them


The bodies in which Jesus manifested himself to his
disciples after his return to life were not the body in
which he was nailed to the tree. They were merely
materialized for the occasion, resembling on one or two
occasions the body in which he died

^^ Jehovah's witnesses make the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ to be a deceiver/liar:

Luk 24:39  "See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have."
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 7:50am On Nov 14, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


about the so called Jehovah's witnesses; wayoflife dot org

Joseph Rutherford

Joseph F. Rutherford became president upon the death of
Russell and led the organization until 1942. Under his
leadership, it grew quickly.
In 1931, Rutherford changed the name of the organization
to Jehovah’s Witnesses. In the early days, they were known as
Russellites, Millennial Dawn People, and International Bible
Students.
Rutherford predicted that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob
would be resurrected in 1925 and he built them a mansion —
which he occupied when the patriarchs didn’t show up!
Rutherford was an alcoholic.

^^ russell a immoral false prophet and a proven liar, and rutherford a alcoholic false prophet
started the sect which is known as Jehovah's witnesses, and persons follow this group still today
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 9:07am On Nov 13, 2024
giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


Jehovah’s Witnesses and their many false prophecies carm dot org:

Jehovah’s Witnesses have many false prophecies and predictions. They make many claims in their attempt to convert you to their faith. They profess to have the only true Christian church, be the only true representatives of God, have the only correct biblical teaching, and be the only true announcers of Jehovah’s coming kingdom.

If they are the only true church and are the only true voice of God’s word, then what they say should prove true, especially in prophecy. When it comes to predicting the future, the Watchtower organization fails miserably. The following are some of the false predictions made over the years by the Watchtower organization. If you present these to a JW, he will probably say something like, “Those are taken out of context,” or “They didn’t claim to be the prophet of God,” or “The light is getting brighter, and we are understanding Bible prophecy better now,” etc. Make a copy of these false prophecies, found in the appendix, and give it to them to check. They are right out of the Witnesses’ literature.

Remember Deut. 18:22, “If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.” If someone makes a false prophecy and claims to be a prophet of God, they are false prophets and are not to be listened to. Do the Witnesses claim to be the prophet of God? Yes, they do.

In 1972 the Jehovah’s Witness Watchtower claimed to be the prophet of God.

IDENTIFYING THE “PROPHET”–“So does Jehovah have a prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to declare things to come? These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet? . . . This “prophet” was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah’s Christian Witnesses . . . Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a ‘prophet’ of God. It is another thing to prove it,” (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1972, p. 197). (See Deut. 18:21.)

1897 “Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874,” (Studies in the Scriptures, vol. 4, p. 621).
1899 ” . . . the ‘battle of the great day of God Almighty’ (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth’s present rulership, is already commenced,” (The Time Is at Hand, 1908 edition, p. 101).
1916 “The Bible chronology herein presented shows that the six great 1000 year days beginning with Adam are ended and that the great 7th Day, the 1000 years of Christ’s Reign, began in 1873,” (The Time Is at Hand, forward, p. ii).
1918 “Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection,” (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89).
1922 “The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914,” (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p. 262).
1923 “Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge,” (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1923, p. 106).
1925 “The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time, God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year,” (Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1925, p. 3).
1925 “It is to be expected that Satan will try to inject into the minds of the consecrated, the thought that 1925 should see an end to the work,” (Watchtower, Sept. 1925, p. 262).
1926 “Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to throw away everything,” (Watchtower, p. 232).
1931 “There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah’s faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1914, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a time. . . . and they also learned to quit fixing dates for the future….” (Vindication, pp. 338, 339).
1941 “Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord’s provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon,” (Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1941, p. 288).
1968 “True, there have been those in times past who predicted an ‘end to the world’, even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The ‘end’ did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? . . . Missing from such people were God’s truths and evidence that he was using and guiding them,” (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968).
1968 “Why are you looking forward to 1975?” (Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1968, p. 494).

A JW might say that the organization is still learning. If that is so, then how can they trust what they are taught now by the Watchtower? Will what they are being taught now change also?


A true prophet of God won’t err in prophesying. Only a false prophet does. The Jehovah’s Witness organization, which claims to be a prophet of God, is really a false prophet.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 9:02am On Nov 13, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


about the so called Jehovah's witnesses; wayoflife dot org

The Jehovah’s Witnesses arose within the end-time fervor of the latter half of the 19th century that produced the Mormons (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) and the Seventh-day Adventists as well as the Pentecostal Latter Rain theology.
Charles Taze Russell The Jehovah’s Witnesses originated in America with Charles Taze Russell (1852-1916).
Russell had been a Presbyterian, a Congregationalist, and an Adventist before he formed the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
In the 1870s he organized a Bible study and by 1880 there were 30 congregations following his teaching.
In 1879, he began publishing a magazine called The Watchtower Announcing Jehovah’s Kingdom.
In 1884, he incorporated the Zion’s Watch Tower Tract Society.
He published his doctrine in six books called Studies in the Scriptures.
He claimed to be the “Seventh Messenger” of Revelation 10:7.
In 1909, the headquarters was moved to Brooklyn, New York.
Russell falsely predicted that Armageddon would occur by 1916.
His wife divorced him in 1911 because of his immoral relations with other women.
Russell claimed that he could read Greek, but in a court of law he was shown to be a liar in that he could not decipher even the basic Greek alphabet.

Russell claimed to be the “Seventh Messenger” of Revelation 10:7:
Rev 10:7  but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, then the mystery of God is finished, as He preached to His servants the prophets. 

^^ this fraud group began with a false prophet who was immoral and a liar,
millions today are still followers of men like this
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 10:39pm On Nov 12, 2024
Janosky:
John W WAILING WAILER , your gods of men giving false prophecies (in screenshots) are practicing what Jesus taught?
3 deities devotees WAILING WAILERS are inseparable from IBERIBEISM.
grin cheesy
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

you claim to be Jehovah's witness, yet when you lie like this all over the place
you make Jehovah Who you say you witness for, to be a liar

you people don't witness for Jehovah.
with all your lies, you are the devil's witnesses:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Christianity EtcRe: Revelation Chapter 22 Proves Christ's Deity by johnw47:
Janosky:
his WAILING 3 deities pagan devotees
cool
lost blasphemer fraud jw janosky,

Father and Son and Holy Spirit of course are not 3 gods
Jehovah sees, hears, and knows all the babble you spew

3 deities/3gods:
Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 8:40am On Nov 12, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


some false prophecies and false date settings of so called Jehovah's witnesses; jwfacts dot com:

The failure of 1914 and 1925 taught the Watchtower the danger of specific date setting, but there can be no misunderstanding the implication of the articles prior to 1975. However, ask a Jehovah's Witnesses now whether 1975 was ever thought to be the end of the world and the answer will invariably be denial. This is in line with how the Watchtower paints this part of its history. Notice the brief discussion the Proclaimers book devotes to this important time of growth and the extent of an admission of error.

"Brother Franz then referred to the many questions that had arisen as to whether the material in the new book meant that by 1975 Armageddon would be finished, and Satan would be bound. He stated, in essence: 'It could. But we are not saying . All things are possible with God. But we are not saying. And don’t any of you be specific in saying anything that is going to happen between now and 1975. But the big point of it all is this, dear friends: Time is short. Time is running out, no question about that.’ ... However, other statements were published on this subject, and some were likely more definite than advisable." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.104
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 8:38am On Nov 12, 2024
giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


some false prophecies and false date settings of so called Jehovah's witnesses; jwfacts dot com:

In its issue of July 15, 1976, The Watchtower, commenting on the inadvisability of setting our sights on a certain date, stated: "If anyone has been disappointed through not following this line of thought, he should now concentrate on adjusting his viewpoint, seeing that it was not the word of God that failed or deceived him and brought disappointment, but that his own understanding was based on wrong premises." In saying "anyone," The Watchtower included all disappointed ones of Jehovah's Witnesses, hence including persons having to do with the publication of the information that contributed to the buildup of hopes centered on that date.

Nevertheless, there is no reason for us to be shaken in faith in God's promises. Rather, as a consequence, we are all moved to make a closer examination of the Scriptures regarding this matter of a day of judgment. In doing so, we find that the important thing is not the date. What is important is our keeping ever in mind that there is such a day - and it is getting closer and it will require an accounting on the part of all of us. Peter said that Christians should rightly be "awaiting and keeping close in mind the presence of the day of Jehovah." (2 Pet. 3:12) It is not a certain date ahead; it is day-to-day living on the part of the Christian that is important. He must not live a single day without having in mind that he is under Jehovah's loving care and direction and must submit himself thereto, keeping also in mind that he must account for his acts."
In its brief discussion of this event, Watchtower's history book Proclaimers makes subtle admission.

"This later led to the idea — sometimes stated as a possibility, sometimes more firmly — that since the seventh millennium of human history would begin in 1975, events associated with the beginning of Christ’s Millennial Reign might start to take place then." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.633
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47:
Janosky:
John W WAILING WAILER , your gods of men giving false prophecies (in screenshots) are practicing what Jesus taught?
lost fraud jw janonsense

of course you call the truth i posted "wailing" and
of course you accuse me of having gods of men

lost false jw, of course you cannot ever stop lying with Jehovah as Witness:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

Janosky: 3 deities devotees WAILING WAILERS are inseparable from IBERIBEISM.
grin cheesy
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



false jw, of course you a lost one, love to continually blaspheme the Christians
Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible, calling Them 3 deities/3 gods

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 9:04am On Nov 11, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


some false prophecies and false date settings of so called Jehovah's witnesses; jwfacts dot com:

Jehovah's Witnesses are forced to ignore intelligent lines of reason and follow whatever is promoted in the Watchtower. The excitement over 1975 is testament to how their thinking ability atrophies. There are at least three obvious reasons for why 1975 could not be the date for Armageddon.

Adam's creation was neither the end of creation nor the start of God's day of rest. The Bible does not tell when God created Eve. The Watchtower 1955 Feb 1 p.95 specifically said as much;

"The very fact that, as part of Jehovah's secret, no one today is able to find out how much time Adam and later Eve lived during the closing days of the sixth creative period, so no one can now determine when six thousand years of Jehovah's present rest day come to an end."

During the 1975 hype it began being stated that Adam and Eve were created in the same year, speaking of "the year of Adam and Eve's creation in 4026 B.C.E." (Watchtower 1968 May 1 p.271) Immediately following the failure of 1975 the Watchtower reverted to their original position.

"But that great rest day did not begin immediately after Adam's creation. Other events took place after Adam's creation but before the close of the sixth creative day. One of these is of great importance to all of us. That is the creation of the first woman, Eve." Watchtower 1976 Jul 15 p.436

The angels were observing as the day of creation ended and hence would know the day for the start of Armageddon if it was to be a simple 6000 year calculation yet the Bible states the angels did not know the time for the end.

Matthew 24:36 "Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father."

The Bible does not specify the length of the creative days or the seventh day. It does not indicate that God's day of rest is 7,000 years, or that Jesus reign is to start after 6,000 years.

The shallow reasoning the Watchtower had used to support its promotion of 1975 does not say much for the doctrinal integrity of the Governing Body. Acceptance of this doctrine also says wonders about the gullibility of the followers, indicating a lack of any deep desire to see truth beyond what appears written in the pages of the Watchtower.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 9:40am On Nov 10, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


some false prophecies and false date settings of so called Jehovah's witnesses; jwfacts dot com:

Blaming Jehovah's Witnesses for having false expectations is a common theme. Watchtower strongly promoted that the world would end in 1914, and then in 1925. Regarding the failure of the end eventuating in 1914, Watchtower wrote:

“There were also other expectations concerning 1914. Alexander H. Macmillan, who had been baptized in September 1900, later recalled: "A few of us seriously thought we were going to heaven during the first week of that October. Had some been attracted by the thought of their own early salvation rather than love for God and a strong desire to do his will?” Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.61

Watchtower similarly shifted blame to the members after 1925, shirking responsibility despite having printed a considerable amount of literature promoting 1925 as the time for Jesus return.

"Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to throw away everything." Watch Tower 1926 p.232
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 9:37am On Nov 10, 2024
giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


some false prophecies and false date settings of so called Jehovah's witnesses; jwfacts dot com:

Post 1975 Admission of Guilt

The first suggestion the Watchtower was compliant in the hype of 1975 was not until the 1980 Yearbook.

"The brothers also appreciated the candor of this same talk, which acknowledged the Society's responsibility for some of the disappointment a number felt regarding 1975." Yearbook 1980 pp.30-31

The other formal admission of guilt was a single paragraph in the 1980 Watchtower article "Choosing the Best Way of Life". This paragraph confessed excitement surrounding 1975 was encouraged by the Watchtower. However, one cannot help note with disappointment the five year span before such admission, or that the article still concluded by shifting blame to the attitude of the members. The Watchtower 1980 March 15 p.17 to p.18 stated:

"In modern times such eagerness, commendable in itself, has led to attempts at setting dates for the desired liberation from the suffering and troubles that are the lot of persons throughout the earth. With the appearance of the book Life Everlasting-in Freedom of the Sons of God, and its comments as to how appropriate it would be for the millennial reign of Christ to parallel the seventh millennium of man's existence, considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975. There were statements made then, and thereafter, stressing that this was only a possibility. Unfortunately, however, along with such cautionary information, there were other statements published that implied that such realization of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility . It is to be regretted that these latter statements apparently overshadowed the cautionary ones and contributed to a buildup of the expectation already initiated.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 11:11pm On Nov 09, 2024
giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practesing what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


some false prophecies and false date settings of so called Jehovah's witnesses; jwfacts dot com:

Post 1975 Blame the followers

After the failure of 1975, very little was ever said. In 1976, the Watchtower printed an incredulous article chastising those that planned their lives around a certain date. The Watchtower 1976 Jul 15 pp.440-441 stated:

"11 It may be that some who have been serving God have planned their lives according to a mistaken view of just what was to happen on a certain date or in a certain year. They may have, for this reason, put off or neglected things that they otherwise would have cared for. But they have missed the point of the Bible’s warnings concerning the end of this system of things, thinking that Bible chronology reveals the specific date.

12 What do Jesus’ own words show concerning the proper attitude as to the end—to look for a date, or what? He said: “Pay attention to yourselves that your hearts never become weighed down with overeating and heavy drinking and anxieties of life, and suddenly that day be instantly upon you as a snare. For it will come in upon all those dwelling upon the face of all the earth. Keep awake, then, all the time making supplication that you may succeed in escaping all these things that are destined to occur, and in standing before the Son of man.”—Luke 21:34-36.

13 Did Jesus mean that we should adjust our financial and secular affairs so that our resources would just carry us to a certain date that we might think marks the end? If our house is suffering serious deterioration, should we let it go, on the assumption that we would need it only a few months longer? Or, if someone in the family possibly needs special medical care, should we say, ‘Well, we’ll put it off because the time is so near for this system of things to go’? This is not the kind of thinking that Jesus advised. ...

15 But it is not advisable for us to set our sights on a certain date, neglecting everyday things we would ordinarily care for as Christians, such as things that we and our families really need. We may be forgetting that, when the “day” comes, it will not change the principle that Christians must at all times take care of all their responsibilities. If anyone has been disappointed through not following this line of thought, he should now concentrate on adjusting his viewpoint, seeing that it was not the word of God that failed or deceived him and brought disappointment, but that his own understanding was based on wrong premises.

16 However, say that you are one who counted heavily on a date, and, commendably, set your attention more strictly on the urgency of the times and the need of the people to hear. And say you now, temporarily, feel somewhat disappointed; are you really the loser? Are you really hurt? We believe you can say that you have gained and profited by taking this conscientious course. Also, you have been enabled to get a really mature, more reasonable viewpoint.—Eph. 5:1-17.

Compare comments from immediately prior to 1975, to shortly afterwards. In 1974, Jehovah's Witnesses were praised for selling their houses. In 1976, they were criticised. It is incomprehensible that the Governing Body could be so hypocritical as to criticise people doing what they had encouraged, and that Jehovah's Witnesses accepted this without question.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 11:03pm On Nov 09, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


some false prophecies and false date settings of so called Jehovah's witnesses; jwfacts dot com:

Witnesses stocked up on long life food, reminiscent of Mormon pantries. One of my friend's families hid items in the bush, including a cross bow so they could quietly hunt animals during Armageddon. Others went further; they cashed in superannuation plans, cancelled health insurance and sold their homes and bought caravans to live in. This created great problems for many families as they were totally unprepared for lives that would extend on for many decades.

Even external news sources understood the message that the Watchtower was indicating. The July 18th 1969 issue of Time contained an article "Witnessing the End" that stated;

"In fact, they fully expect the cataclysm of Armageddon within the next few years. The latest calculations of this energetic, eschatology-minded sect date the end of the world in autumn, 1975. Fearful as it may be to other religious believers, the end is a prospect that rejoices the hearts of the 323,688 U.S. members of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, as the Witnesses are..."1

Post 1975 Print Edition Changes

The 1968 edition of The Truth book contained subtle quotes pointing to the fact that the world could not survive past 1975.

"Back in 1960, a former United States Secretary of State, Dean Acherson declared that our time is "a period of unequaled instability, unequaled violence" And he warned: "I know enough of what is going on to assure you that, in fifteen years from today this world is going to be too dangerous to live in."" The Truth That Leads to Eternal Life p.9 1968 edition

The revised edition published in 1981, replaced this quote to read as follows:

"Also, as reported back in 1960, a former United States Secretary of State, Dean Acheson, declared that our time is "a period of unequaled instability, unequaled violence." Based on what he knew was then going on in the world, it was his conclusion that soon "this world is going to be too dangerous to live in."" The Truth That Leads to Eternal Life p.9

Likewise the 1968 edition contained a quote from the book Famine--1975! referring to how unlivable the world would be by 1975.

""By 1975 civil disorder, anarchy, military dictatorships, runaway inflation, transportation breakdowns and chaotic unrest will be the order of the day in many of the hungry nations.""The Truth That Leads to Eternal Life pp.88-89
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 8:44am On Nov 09, 2024
who would study the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses
who are false prophets, false date setters, etc.

"Yes, since the summer of 1973 there have been new peaks in pioneers every month. Now there are 20,394 regular and special pioneers in the United States, an all-time peak. That is 5,190 more than there were in February 1973! A 34-percent increase! Does that not warm our hearts? Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world's end." Kingdom Ministry May 1974 p.3 How Are You Using Your Life?

"Today there is a great crowd of people who are confident that a destruction of even greater magnitude is now imminent. The evidence is that Jesus' prophecy will shortly have a major fulfilment, upon this entire system of things. This has been a major factor in influencing many couples to decide not to have children at this time." Awake! 1974 Nov 8 p.11
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 8:42am On Nov 09, 2024
so called Jehovah's witnesses practise false prophecies, false date settings, etc.

The Effect

These teaching had a dramatic effect on people's lives. In 1974 the Kingdom Ministry reported that the number of pioneers boomed, with people commended for selling homes to spend the short time left in God's Service. Likewise it was recommended to put off raising children.

Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47:
who would study the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses
who are false prophets, false date setters, etc.

Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47:
so called Jehovah's witnesses practise false prophecies, false date settings, etc.

article below written in 1969

Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 9:27am On Nov 08, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Satan doesn't have anything to say about his own faith instead what he wants to do is kick against what God says! Genesis 3:4-5 smiley
lost false jw mad max

yes satan kicks against what God says, and you are just like him
saying; Jesus is a deceiver and Jehovah isn't Almighty and Jehovah doesn't know it all etc.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 8:44am On Nov 08, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Why is it so hard for many to speak boldly about their own church but always criticizing a unique group?
lost false jw mad max

as is already shown, your teaching that Jesus is a deceiver and that Jehovah is not Almighty
and that Jehovah is not all knowing certainly is unique teachings, and false teachings/lies

Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 8:40am On Nov 08, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Why is it so difficult for many religionists to talk about their own faith as a unique group did in the first century but always rushing to criticize what a unique religion teaches? Act 13:50; 14:2, 19; 17:13 smiley
lost false jw mad max

your teaching that Jesus is a deceiver and that Jehovah is not Almighty
and that Jehovah doesn't know it all, certainly is unique teachings, and false

Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.

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