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regarding some of the pentacostal type churches:

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

christians don't wilfully sin:
Heb_10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

again, christians are to sin not, but if any man sin we have the consilation of Christ who has paid our price for sin:
1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

christians still sin and it grieves them, but Jesus consoles us

christians don't wilfully sin but jig's puffed up attitude and foul language was wilful, go figure oh you people pleasers

Mat_7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

the ultimate of being born again is when believers are turned from mortal to immortal,
that is when believers fully don't sin anymore:
Joh_3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Joh_3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
1Pe_1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.



as for now while born again but still flesh
God looks on the faithful as righteous
He doesn't look on their sins or hold their sins against them
that doesn't mean the faithful no longer sin,
the faithful are no longer slaves to sin and only occasionally stumble


when christians sin we still confess our sins to God
and He is righteous to forgive us


is jig truly a christian? if so then just look at jig's puffed up attitude
and foul language, and then tell everyone again that christians don't sin

christians resist sin, resist temptation, not perfectly
we are still flesh

jiggaz:
You are a p.s.ycho... I can see that your white brain is leaking.... You must be s.t.upid to continue this your attack.... I am way out of your league white t.r.ash.. This is my last warning to you. Go find your mates.

Lemme ask you, what are you doing on a Nigerian forum? You are an idio.t for abusing me. You picked the wrong person, mannerless p.ig!!

^^^ apparently according to some a puffed up attitude and foul language is not sin



you preach a false gospel

jiggaz:
Whatever.... You are irrelevant to me just like your opinion... I don't care...

ummm yet you keep posting me, see your lies yet jig?

jiggaz: Since the Lord Jesus have declared me righteous, who are you to say otherwise?
Manner.less religious wac.ko....

two things God hates, lying lips and a perverse tongue

jiggaz: Go find your mates son.

OK, tell me who they are and i will ask them if they want to come

jiggaz: This is just a warning to you to stay clear of me in this forum...

oooh jig you are fearsome, in your own eyes

jiggaz: I don't care for you and i don't care for your types

and here i was thinking that you loved me

jiggaz: ( religious hypocrites)... White psy.cho....

Pro_10:18 He that hideth hatred with lying lips, and he that uttereth a slander, is a fool.

jiggaz: I am through with you... You are now dismissed...

first you are going to put me in my place big time...and then... you are through with me
jig, confusion isn't from God, but from the devil you follow

jiggaz:
You are a p.s.ycho... I can see that your white brain is leaking.... You must be s.t.upid to continue this your attack.... I am way out of your league white t.r.ash.. This is my last warning to you. Go find your mates.

Lemme ask you, what are you doing on a Nigerian forum? You are an idio.t for abusing me. You picked the wrong person, mannerless p.ig!!

who are they, i don't remember posting with you in 2015
and the fact that you won't give a link makes me think you must be just lying again

it's very easy to see that many so called christians are christians in name only
holier than thou christians
they talk the talk but don't walk the walk
claiming to no longer sin etc. yet lie and falsely accuse, and use foul language

Jesus will say to this type: "leave me, I never knew you"


bloodof, jig

jiggaz:
You are a p.s.ycho... I can see that your white brain is leaking.... You must be s.t.upid to continue this your attack.... I am way out of your league white t.r.ash.. This is my last warning to you. Go find your mates.

Lemme ask you, what are you doing on a Nigerian forum? You are an idio.t for abusing me. You picked the wrong person, mannerless p.ig!!

ha ha jig, you certinally are way out of my league on bad language
the truth of being a people pleaser etc. hurts you jig, the truth does that

look at your words, do you see the spirit of satan in you yet jig
it's not the Holy Spirit in you, that's for sure

is that what you mean by putting me in my place big time
by using bad language, you must be deluded

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits.

jig you are known by your fruits(bad language in this case) to be of your father god satan

bloodof, that same fake god in the garden that told eve she could disobey God,
that told her: "she won't die"
is that same false god that tells you: "you don't sin"

Mat 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.


these people pleasers honor God with their mouths, but their hearts are with giving honor to their friends

bloodofthelamb:
Bro, if you read that whole chapter from the beginning in it proper context you will see(realise) that Paul was making a sharp contrast between his past and his present reality.

I pray the Holy Spirit opens your eyes to see it as you read it again. Amen!

you bloodof will go to lengths to get your lies across that you no longer sin
even after evidence is given
and even with you contradicting God's word

john talking to believers:
1Jn 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

john again to believers:
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

you bloodof lie and falsely accuse, and you think that's not sin

Mat_7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

people pleasers, back slappers,
not pleasing God but pleasing people, and even accepting lies

Col 3:23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;

bloodofthelamb:
Bro jiggaz, I got you and solite.

solite3:
God bless you

jiggaz:
Alright my bro... You are always welcome...

^^^ brothers in lies, brothers in satan

bloodofthelamb:
I put up this thread because someone by the name johnw47 has been charging me with lies.

yes bloodof, you claimed that you don't sin anymore and i showed that you do indeed still sin,
i showed your lies which is sin and i showed your false accusations which is lies and sin
and i have showed how you twist the subject which also is lies, is sin,
read through this and the other thread https://www.nairaland.com/4553351/there-healing-stripes
and if you are still blinded to your lies, your sins, i will post them again for you

while you are in lies you are following your father god satan:

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

bloodofthelamb:
Na sir, you give him much credit when you talk about me loosing sleep because of him. I can only loose my sleep because of the word of God and not for the insult and slander of someone, no matter who the person is.

Thanks for the advice.

bloodof, you call truth insult and slander, but that's you

MuttleyLaff:
Yeah, not inflamed
but love you and thats why until lately, I have religiously being liking almost all your posts, read all over the place

Your nose has stretched through the window to me from where you are.

well as you know:
The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off
remain peeved

MuttleyLaff:
You're extremely so predictable
Aw, wish I could see you, rub your chubby face together and plant a kiss on it.
Sarcasm has never being your forte anyway
God bless you

sorry you are so inflamed toward me, oops that's a fib

MuttleyLaff:
You know me John
I like and love you to death and after

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I am glad to read this honesty coming from you

So its the classic, for every time, you point a finger, three point back at you then
Perhaps you should look at yourself three times
and find out about the situation you are pointing at picking and finding a close-mindness fault with
1/ Instead of wasting time. Find out, what happened that brought the situation?
2/ Instead of being negativity prone. Find out why did the situation happen?
3/ Instead of being impatient. Find out how is/was the situation handled or how am I to handle the situation?

No I havent, I am helping a brother out understanding you and your modus operandi
You have the tendency to be quickly irritated and impatient
You throw the baby out with the bathwater

i would say thanks for the lecture mutt, except it's nonsense, as usual

MuttleyLaff:
Faith and belief cometh by hearing, and hearing, by the word of God

Everything you put up here, is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
It's simple, short and sweet.

I wouldnt loose sleep over johnw47, if I were you
Critical and holier-than-thou johnw47, will have you believe that he doesnt lie
Critical and holier-than-thou johnw47, will have you believe that he doesnt lie to himself, when he looks at mirror
Critical and holier-than-thou johnw47, will have you believe that he doesnt do little white lies
Only God knows how many lies before end of today, critical and holier-than-thou johnw47 would commit.

does that mean you don't like me mutt?

holier-than-thou me doesn't say i don't lie
holier-than-thou me doesn't say i don't sin anymore

you got it back the front mutt, as usual

delkuf:
guys, guys, it shouldn't get to this level. you know we Christians, this should not be happening especially on a Sunday morning. Happy Sunday

as for me del, it's ok to state the truth on a sunday morning or at any time,
i do understand how it upsets bloodof and jig though, the truth can hurt when one is delving into lies and the other supporting lies.

delkuf:
many of us don't really get what the is saying, we are to live in perfection. in 1john5:18, the Bible says, we know that whosoever is born of God sinner not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and the wicked one toucheth him not. Brethren God what us to keep ourselves from sin. And with the help of the Spirit of Christ, it is possible

it is possible, i suspect few can though reading through some posts of supossed christians

jiggaz:
you are just so immature. Why don't you leave him alone? Why can't you mind your own d.amn business?

duh jig, bloodof challenged my initial post in another thread which was completely according to the bible,
and i replied showing him where he is wrong, that's what forums are for,
he says he doesn't sin, i showed him that he does.
you jig have stuck your nose in to support lies, which is ok with me, but don't go crying when i reply to yours or someone elses falsehoods

jiggaz: You can't try this rubbish with me cos you know i will shut you up big time!!

ha ha, don't go scaring yourself now, ("i will shut you up big time"] laugh
i'm also waiting on a quote or link from you to where you claim you shut me and many others up one at a time,
is that coming, or is it falsehood?

jiggaz: Yes i can be very rude if you are rude to me..... Leave my brother bloodofthelamb alone!! Don't you get it? Wait, were you not the guy that said he's white? Is this how white people behave in your country? By being a pain in the behind? Leave him alone, if u feel you are saying the truth, open up your own thread and let him be.... Na real wa for you...

ha ha like you just remembered, that will get you some followers-supporters
^^^ jig you dishonest like bloodof

jiggaz: i went gangster on all of them and shut all of them up one by one

Most of them now know to stay on their lanes cos i don't spare them any longer

bloodof, false accusations are lies, are sins

bloodofthelamb: Is ok if you decide to believe that sickness is the will of God for you but not me. You can keep glorifyng God in sickness but me and my family will glorify Him in health.

bloodof, you do lie, you do sin


who is the accuser, who is the father of lies, if you do his will then he is your god

jiggaz:
My bro, i think John the beloved is not saying we cannot sin as believers. He is admonishing us not to sin but if anyone sins( the believers), we have an advocate with the father.

This means that even though we are believers, the capacity to sin is still in us. We still live in a fallen body though our spirits are new. We shall only be perfect at the rapture when we see Christ in our glorified body.

There is sin in us as believers, but there is no sin on us in God's eyes... For our Lord Jesus Christ, there was no sin in Him, but there was sin on Him at the Cross when He became our substitute. Notice the difference in and on. The only part that Christ carried our sin on the Cross was his body, His spirit was sinless... For us believers today, there is sin in our flesh ( our fallen body) but there is no sin on us in God's eyes because God only see us in Christ ( our new spirit).

So my brother, we still have the capacity to sin in this life cos we are still living in a fallen body but we are forever righteous in God's eyes.

As for that guy always attacking you, just tell him off. He tried that thing with me in 2015 but i put him in his place.

jig, my comment to bloodof was that he does indeed lie, not if it is possible to lie or not, but he loves to twist things which is of course lying, and i posted a couple of his quotes showing so, seeing as he falsely claims that he no longer sins.

regarding you being right and putting me in my place in 2015, post your quotes here or give a link, and i will show you again where you were wrong and how you are just a big mouth

jiggaz: When i started with this grace gospel here in Nairaland in 2015, most of them were attacking me calling me devil or the Antichrist. But i didn't shut up oo, i went gangster on all of them and shut all of them up one by one. They were very abusive and i also became very rude to them. Most of them now know to stay on their lanes cos i don't spare them any longer. I deal with people with the attitude they confront me with.

ha ha, another puffed up one

bloodofthelamb:
Is ok if you decide to believe that sickness is the will of God for you but not me. You can keep glorifyng God in sickness but me and my family will glorify Him in health.

lies are sin oh bloodof, who doesn't sin anymore

LoJ:
So don't you sin any longer?

bloodofthelamb:
Yes, I don't.

bloodofthelamb:
johnw47, The thorn in flesh was persecution. 2 Cor 12:9_ "And he said to me my grace is sufficient for you: for my strength is made perfect in WEAKNESS( not in sickness and disease).

you don't know the meanings of weakness, and you don't know that the angel of satan
that was given paul inflicted him with eye disease as well as much more than that


weakness
ἀσθένεια
astheneia
as-then'-i-ah
From G772; feebleness (of body or mind); by implication malady; moral frailty: - disease, infirmity, sickness, weakness.

bloodofthelamb:
By his grace I work in supernatural health. Even if malaria or any other disease tries it luck on me. It will never succeed. Because in Christ I have free healing 24/7.

^^^ another lie from you bloodof, who doesn't sin anymore
disease will never succeed with you, yet you was down with fever which is sickness-disease

bloodofthelamb:
When I was down with fever

LoJ:
So don't you sin any longer?

bloodofthelamb:
Yes, I don't.

lying is sin vvv

bloodofthelamb:
I am in Christ and his life, health, strength, vitality flows from the crown of my head to the very soles of my feets.

Hallelujah!!!

bloodofthelamb:
When I was down with fever

solite3:
I believe the thorn on Paul's flesh was not sickness but someone who persecuted paul because of the revelation he had in other to keep him humble.

But I agree with you that Paul's infirmities might be sickness

bloodofthelamb:
Brother apostle Paul infirmities were not sickness but weakness.

bloodof, eye disease is sickness,
weakness is also sickness,
or perhaps you think it's healthy to be weak

bloodofthelamb:
johnw47, Jesus healed ALL who were sick in the body. He did this to make what prophet Isaiah had said come true (Matthew 8:16-17).

Healing is the children's bread (Matt 15-22-29). Apostle Paul never had a failing eye sight. The thorn in the flesh was a figure of speech that apostle paul used to identify those people opposing and persecuting his ministry. The thorn in the flesh were messanger of Satan buffeting him.

Atheist in this forum are a thorn in the flesh to Christians because they oppose and persecute us and our message of hope and light. Physical sickness is not and will never be the will of the Father to his children.

In Truth, we ought not to get sick and diseased, talkless of being healed. Perfect health is our God perfect will for us through Christ Jesus

bloodof, what part of my post are you referring to:

johnw47:
1Pe 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
1Pe 2:25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Jesus can and does sometimes heal physical illness, but the healing spoken of in those verses is healing of the spirit-mind

we were going astray and He caused us to be dead to sin and to live righteously, by His stripes you are healed

he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities, we are restored to peace, by his stripes we are healed


the apostle paul asked the Lord to heal the thorn in his side, some kind of problem, possibly his failing eye sight, Jesus said: "my grace is sufficient for you"

Jesus was wounded for our transgressions and iniquities(sins), not for our fevers and broken limbs


for those suffering with physical ailments, if Christ decides His grace is sufficient for you,
then endure, and have joy, He will help you

bloodofthelamb:
johnw47, Jesus healed ALL who were sick in the body. He did this to make what prophet Isaiah had said come true (Matthew 8:16-17).

Healing is the children's bread (Matt 15-22-29). Apostle Paul never had a failing eye sight. The thorn in the flesh was a figure of speech that apostle paul used to identify those people opposing and persecuting his ministry. The thorn in the flesh were messanger of Satan buffeting him.

Atheist in this forum are a thorn in the flesh to Christians because they oppose and persecute us and our message of hope and light. Physical sickness is not and will never be the will of the Father to his children.

In Truth, we ought not to get sick and diseased, talkless of being healed. Perfect health is our God perfect will for us through Christ Jesus

Gal 4:13 Ye know how through infirmity of the flesh I preached the gospel unto you at the first.
Gal 4:14 And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus.
Gal 4:15 Where is then the blessedness ye spake of? for I bear you record, that, if it had been possible, ye would have plucked out your own eyes, and have given them to me.

Gal 6:11 Look at how large the letters in these words are because I'm writing this myself.

the infirmity of paul's flesh,
which was in paul's flesh spoken of here, was eye disease.

apostle paul certinally did haver failing eyesight

bloodofthelamb:
1 Peter 2:24_ Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose{ Jesus} stripes you were healed.

I don't care what affliction you or your loved one is going through right now, neither does it matter for Jesus Christ was wounded that you might be healed.

You are the only one that can stop your healing by not believing the truth. God has not abandoned you at the mercy of your sickness and diseases. He made abundant provision for your total healing and wholeness through the stripes of His Son.

God has given, it is now our responsibility to take what God has has graciously given through our stubborn faith. Many end up dieing in their affliction because they did not take by faith the healing that is in His stripes.

Realise this, even though God wants you healed and has made provision for it through Christ, He can never force it on you. It is done unto us according to our faith/believe. You don't glorify God, when you are sick.

most people, including christians since Christ, have died through illness,
very few just die peacefully in their sleep.
according to you bloodof, those billions of christians that died of illness,
were not healed of their sickness, "because they did not believe the truth"

1Jn_4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

geoworldedu:
Yahweh's Peniis is still missing. Pls if found call the police

i have heard that there are plenty of gay hangouts in nigeria
where you can have as many peniis as your heart desires

bloodofthelamb:
"A ship where everybody is captain will soon sink due to lack of leadership."

Go figure what that means.

1. a ship where everyone is captain doesn't have a lack of leadership,
but to much leadership,
the ship where everyone is captain could sink due to conflicting instructions

2. a worldly person sites a worldly made up cliche, a faulty one at that
a Godly person sites God's word