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 Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Truely Care For Man His Creature? by johnydon22(m): 7:56am On Jan 05, 2016 |
BobUg28:Alright bro .. Sent a whatsapp message.. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Truely Care For Man His Creature? by johnydon22(m): 7:50am On Jan 05, 2016 |
wealthinfos: Am not even religious .. Whether will i ever subscribe to such barbaric idea in the name of a religious doctrine.. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Truely Care For Man His Creature? by johnydon22(m): 6:43am On Jan 05, 2016 |
ValentineMary:People should think about this, let them take all the time they need 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Theory Of The Gaps. How Much Sense Does It Make? by johnydon22(m): 6:35am On Jan 05, 2016 |
unphilaz:You have been ranting about this creation from nothing and creation from matter all the time.. its time i put you in your place ... now tell me.. Which is creation from matter and which is creation from nothing? 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tyson Beckford Shares More Unclad Photos, Shows Butt On IG Religion Gone? by johnydon22(m): 5:33pm On Jan 04, 2016 |
Who is Tyson Beckford...  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, We Need To Discuss These Important Topics!! NOW!! by johnydon22(m): 11:02am On Jan 04, 2016 |
Tufanja:Certainly 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Plight Of An Ogbanje (witch Children) by johnydon22(op): 8:12pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
basille:Surely |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Mystery Of The Tower Of Babel by johnydon22(m): 7:05pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
HCpaul:I will be heading to abuja tomorrow |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Mystery Of The Tower Of Babel by johnydon22(m): 5:24pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
vikkeee:this thread is neither about my unbelief in God, but if you really wanted to know just hook up with the topics i have on my profile.. -Belief more so means uncertainty over a premise but acceptance or agreement none-the less. So i lack that which it takes to hold on to uncertainty with a stoic conviction as truth.. Lets abandon the idea of belief and try to find things out.. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Mystery Of The Tower Of Babel by johnydon22(m): 4:49pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
vikkeee:I thought it should be obvious i don't believe in God talk more of religion 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Mystery Of The Tower Of Babel by johnydon22(m): 4:31pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Martian:[b] The Igbos have their myth on why babies don't talk.. "babies used to talk but due to the fact that they are not knowledgeable yet, they say anything they see like when a one eyed man visited they would say 'go away one eyed man' Chukwu saw this and sort to solve it, He got a water yam. peeled off the bark and fed the babies with it blocking their speech temporarily, that is why when you open the mouth of babies you will see white substance on their tongue.." You see just like the Igbos have these poetic eloquent myths meant to throw a light on their ideas of "how and why" things happen or are the way they are, there are naive but noble explanations and most times is used by these people to fill the gap left by their ignorance of what actually was the case... This is exactly the way with the jews and most of the outrightly implausible stories in their book. The sad part is that some people will come and swear by their balls that these Jewish myths are true and these people mostly will find the story i wrote up there to be absurd.. If the story of Perseus and his flying horse was in the bible, Christians would believe it. if the story of Jonah was not in the bible Christians would have been laughing at anybody who believed it.. The dishonesty in belief, it shows you the inconsistencies in other similar ridiculous myths others believe but blinds you to the inconsistencies and outright absurdities in yours.. [/b] 12 Likes 4 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Mystery Of The Tower Of Babel by johnydon22(m): 3:49pm On Jan 03, 2016*. Modified: 4:23pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
God felt threatened when men built a flimsy tower that is not even up to the sky scrappers we have now but went on Awol when man built space stations, probes and rockets... One of those ridiculous stories people have been fed with to explain simple things.. By the way, the tower of babel known in history was a tower built in Babylonia in honour of their God Mardurk not some shabby one language got confused tale.. 5 Likes 3 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, We Need To Discuss These Important Topics!! NOW!! by johnydon22(m): 2:40pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
JackBizzle: You talk am oo.. The emergence of reason is a slow and consistent thing i always maintain. I believe with time, many Nigerians (more than we have now) will come to embrace independent reason and critical thinking in place of religious dogmas... 6 Likes 3 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: NEW YEAR Prophecies, Another Bonfire Of The Circus Clowns. by johnydon22(m): 12:21am On Jan 03, 2016*. Modified: 1:21pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
analice107:For your sake i sincerely wished that can be true... Hahahahaha... Just be fine angel forget the wishes. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: NEW YEAR Prophecies, Another Bonfire Of The Circus Clowns. by johnydon22(m): 2:25pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
Reyginus: Seriously mehn these guys are getting more daft.. The guy said he saw someone named Tony Put(something) crying congratulating Alex Ferguson .. which is Stoke City's coach will congratulate Ferguson over Man-U's victory over stoke.. Who in the world called this a prophecy of an unknown event, who can't guess that Man-U will beat Stoke City in 2013 .. Seriously i am beginning to think the guys that win Niara bet predictions are prophets since someone saying Tony congratulate Ferguson (Very vague football prediction) is taken to be something spectacular.. And they were even clapping WTF!!! Am ashamed of how gullible people can be.. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: NEW YEAR Prophecies, Another Bonfire Of The Circus Clowns. by johnydon22(m): 11:04am On Jan 02, 2016*. Modified: 7:17pm On Feb 22, 2016 |
It is seriously amazing.. Let me make my own prophecies. Boko haram will pull another attack.. A politician will die if they don't pray. A nollywood actor will die. Nigeria will see further economic break down. President buhari should watch his health. ISIL will intensify attack leading to major coalition of world powers. somebody here will have twins Nairaland will push more useless topics to front page and keep marginalizing science topics. And imbecil_es will take these con men serious after they yap things that are very likely to be the case and call them prophecies buttered in trials and errors.... Its incredible.. 14 Likes 4 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Questioning The Implausibilities 3 (original Sin) by johnydon22(op): 10:45pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
LoJ: You see i find it very ironic you don't fancy those who make stoic assertions over a premise at the same time you make an absolute assertion over an unsure concept as God as shown by the bold. Well your questions are well received even though i must add some of them are quite unnecessary.. This your definition of morality creates many problems. Who decides what increases or decreases a society's well being?This i can say is the first unnecessary question because i am sure as i take morality to be a construct of a society, it also takes a society ( which is the composition of the individuals in the society) to determine which action is detrimental to societal well being or is good for the well being of the said society.. So the answer to this question is : The society itself.. E.G: It takes us here in Nigeria (a society) to know first hand the actual effect (detrimental in this case) the actions of BOKO HARAM has on our society at large.. Is the suppression of people that are (intellectually or physically) weak, people with disabilities/genetic diseases, impotent people, moral or not?Again i find this to be another unnecessary question, even though i do not regard my definition a universal truth i must say that i expected you might have been able to relate these instances to the definition. Since the suppression of these class of people is a detriment to their EQUALITY to others in the societal circle which of course i am sure is part of the definition, then i am certain i need not tell you the moral tilt of such actions as regards these individuals in question.. Does it increase or decrease the well being of the community?I cannot understand how i am expected to answer this.. You may well relay to me the weight of this action and then relate it to the definition i gave above Is the private ownership of property moral?Is this private ownership detrimental to societal well being, that is blatantly unlikely.. I still find this a rather unnecessary question because the reason why i gave the definition is for the people reading it to relate the definition to the societal actions abound not throw the questions back at me to determine it for them. As we all know Capitalists will argue that it increases the well being of the society, while Communists will argue otherwise.Here the subjectivity of every society comes in play.. Besides what men view today as an increase may be viewed tomorrow as a decrease.Also banks on subjectivity though i have never seen a society where looting of public funds is seen to be of positive value to the well being of the community , have you ? We are largely ignorant about much of the universe and we do not know the consequences of some of our actions to some other domain of the universe. Which brings me to my last point:Morality as regards my definition is a applicable to the human society not the universe. It entails the necessary mutual actions between members of the same society to ensure pleasing outcomes to both the subjects or the society at large. @bolded, i'd expect that to be obvious: Differs from society to society .. Societal expectations of the Kalahari bush men is drastically different from that of Amazon forest.. So yes as regard human societies, every society determines the standards of its expectations If an action does some good to the human and is detrimental to another form of life yet to be discovered, is that action moral?Since my definition is in relation to human society, i see no reason i should indulge into the effects it MAY have on YET to be discovered life forms until then Cheers.Same 3 Likes 3 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Man Of The Year.... by johnydon22(m): 8:56pm On Dec 31, 2015 |
analice107:Speaks volume of? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Man Of The Year.... by johnydon22(m): 8:55pm On Dec 31, 2015 |
Macelliot:My Villa is in Udi local govt... But i will be heading back to Enugu city tomorrow.. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Questioning The Implausibilities 3 (original Sin) by johnydon22(op): 7:21pm On Dec 31, 2015*. Modified: 11:03pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
frank317: I seriously have no intention of derailing the topic so i'd ignore any quote that banks on a rather different tilt from the subject.. Now am expected to leave the topic of the thread and discuss human morality and ethics.. Just like the guy who thinks atheism is a temporary position, he has no idea Muslims still thinks when Issa(Jesus) comes everyone will convert to Islam.. So muslims may tell him "Christianity is a temporary position, he will convert to Islam" which of course he will find absurd, and that is enough to show him how ridiculous he sounds now.. 3 Likes 3 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Questioning The Implausibilities 3 (original Sin) by johnydon22(op): 7:17pm On Dec 31, 2015 |
kiddie: No i don't. i think these tricks or phenomenons are natural manipulations you just don't understand how they are achieved.. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Questioning The Implausibilities 3 (original Sin) by johnydon22(op): 12:11pm On Dec 31, 2015*. Modified: 1:22pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
[b]Many here won't deny having grown up being taught that their very humanity itself is a sin. That their nature as humans have been contaminated by the action of Adam and Eve in Eden and so their very nature as humans is a sin and broken, lost and weak and therefore needs to be saved.. This basic Christian doctrine has created an imaginary problem, have convinced them of bearing the guilt of an imaginary crime by two fictitious people they know nothing about and so must require an imaginary act of salvation in order to make it to an imaginary paradise.. We have been taught that God is the father at the same time taught to fear, cower in awe in the face of this Father figure. "Father, i am not worthy to be your son, i am broken and weak and is short of your glory but father forgive me and accept me because i have been a sinner since i was born. please father let your will be done in my life, take full possession of me and do with my life what ever you will even though am not worthy" This is a prayer line used to address a father figure, to this i will call a pitiable show of self degrading other than humility.. And again am sure none of us here will ever have our children talk to us in that format, anyone who expects such mode of address from his Children has a chronic self righteousness, abject narcissism, huge egoism and outright disturbing figure.. People have been convinced that they are a sinner from birth and therefore are not worthy...? To this i call a complete arrant nonsense... It is amazing how people cannot find the disturbing idea of a God who bears a grudge for such a long time that it blames every generation for the actions of two people... The alleged all powerful, all knowing and all present creator of the universe is showing a pitiable insecure childish show of bearing grudges with flimsy humans.. You do not need saving from imaginary angry Gods who is blaming you for the sin of some two naked couple who ate an apple.. You did nothing and you are not guilty of the crime of anybody not even the crimes of your immediate parents. It is a common thing to have religious people accuse others of being sinners who deserves to be burnt in a fire for their sins. It is ok to note that SIN in a religious sense has no weight on human morality.. Human morality as a construct of human society entails: An action that decreases individual and social human suffering and betters societal well-being, survival, justice, equality, freedom.. Going by this societal definition of human morality one cannot fail to notice that these actions are necessary for a human society to ensure continuation and a healthy social interactions because as social beings living together in a society we must indulge in mutual actions necessary for our own betterment and continuation. An immoral act as the opposite of morality is An action that INCREASES individual and societal human suffering and is a detriment to societal well being, justice, equality, survival and freedom.. Going by this definition one cannot miss to discern that Armed Robbery is a societal vice because it increases the suffering of the victim. Government officials looting a country is a societal vice because it increases the societal suffering of the community. Boko haram or any group wreaking havoc on a community is a societal vice because it is a detriment to societal well being and increases individual and societal suffering.. But the religious idea of sin are simply actions that goes against the stipulated ethics or doctrines of the said religion or the so called "will of God" that may or may not be in relation to a societal moral action. E.g: In the catholic Church, Missing Mass on sunday is a sin against God.. In islam eating pork is a sin And in a wide margin being Human itself is a sin in fundamental Christian doctrine of original sin. Not believing in God is also a sin I don't understand how muhammed having sex with a 9 year old Aisha is not a bad thing in Islam or beheading others in the name of God is not wrong but God frowns at what two grown adults decides to do with themselves or what i eat.. So you see, these ideas of sin has no weight on the moral tilt of an action, it doesn't matter if your actions are of a good tilt or not you are a sinner none- the less. So do not fret when accused of being a sinner as long as your actions are of no detrimental effect to others or the society... This is the exact question i asked a preacher girl who accused me of being a sinner when she learnt i don't believe the God she believes.. "Am i a sinner because i don't live a moral and ethical life or because i don't believe the God you believe ?" My actions are for humans not deity and so the effect of my actions on fellow humans and the society is all that matters to me not whether a deity likes it or not.. when we realize that an action is neither good or bad just because a religion says so either with the charge of "Thus says the lord" or not, we will learn to employ our reason and independent thinking in determining our actions towards each other.. -We are neither fallen or weak -Our humanity is not a crime or sin -we are not to be blamed for the actions of some fictitious couple who ate an apple. -We have no need to be saved from angry deities who won't mind their business, we are the only ones who can offer ourselves and our children salvation by choosing to better the planet we live in. -And most importantly we do not need forgiveness from angry Gods, we only need forgiveness from each other.. Live your life for you and your actions in respect to others around you and the society that binds us all and not an obligation to a God or religion or a means to an end to bypass punishment or get a reward.. Nobody is born a sinner or inherited the sin of Adam and eve and it's time people realized that.. [/b] 19 Likes 9 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, We Need To Discuss These Important Topics!! NOW!! by johnydon22(m): 10:41pm On Dec 29, 2015 |
[b]@JackBizzle 1. I think some few Nigerians are beginning to discover that economic solutions are not in crusade grounds, churches or temples that has been a major tool used by con men to extort them of the little they have.. Nigerians are beginning to realize that you do not achieve economic stability by praying for it rather you must employ the basic dictates of necessary economic principles.. Like i pointed out on another thread, in every community in Nigeria no matter how poor or undeveloped, you must find huge magnificent religious buildings; Church or Mosque most times costing billions of Naira and this we all know are the contributions of the poor masses in that community.. If such communal funds are used instead for projects that can better the lives of the community like Housing, hospitals, water, electricity, roads i believe with the amount of money dashed to con men with white collar coats yearly by these poor members of these communities and the billions used in making magnificent earthly edifices for allegedly spiritual entities, most communities in Nigeria would have been self developed instead of waiting on incompetent government.. I don't understand how God wants to have a house on earth when there is no standard hospital for the people around.. People need to start thinking ... 2. Humans as we know have developed past the stage of being lone beings, we are social beings and i believe there is an innate drive in all of us to belong and feel as part of our societies. Living in a particularly religiously saturated world like that of Nigeria is not particularly good for someone who is atheistic.. They face high threats of discrimination, torture or even death in extreme cases and this has made most of the atheists or agnostics or widely irreligious in Nigeria to be behind a closet with their views in order to escape these societal stigmas and many have resorted to becoming introverts. There is need for these people to feel they belong, there is need for them to know they are not alone in such world views, there is need for them to know that they are as much humans as others out there. I think it is ok to reach out to others out there by forums or whatsapp groups and also give them the opportunity to voice out their own opinions without fear of discrimination or stigmatization. This is why i am beginning lately to clamor for live documented debates that will be aired online.. 3. I think they are just doing what they think is best for the business, it is no doubt there is a great amount of religious people that read nairaland and many are fanatics. if atheistic threads makes it to the front page often many of these readers may dub nairaland a satanic website and as such stop coming to it.. so the mods are not really being biased just business minded. . . But we hope seun might see to it at least 1 in a month or more. 4. lol. i think girls are more reserved of their atheistic views than boys and as such there are bound to be more hard to find. But i am sure i will only marry one who knows me for me, she may not necessarily be atheistic but she will know mine and respect my world view as i will respect hers. Even if you do find one there is also almost 98% probability she is from a religious family and so goes for yours, so really i have nothing against such if it makes the families happy as long as the legal certificates are signed.. But left to me, i will only marry in the Igbo traditional style and notify my local government for necessary documents [/b] 7 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Happy Birthday To A Friend And A Brother - Johnydon22 by johnydon22(m): 12:06am On Dec 29, 2015 |
winner01:I always do 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Happy Birthday To A Friend And A Brother - Johnydon22 by johnydon22(m): 12:00am On Dec 29, 2015 |
winner01:Thank you bro and i know more than a billion reason to life, you do not need to hope  1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Happy Birthday To A Friend And A Brother - Johnydon22 by johnydon22(m): 11:59pm On Dec 28, 2015 |
MzNelly:Wow what can i say, this is really incredible MzNelly.. It was quite funny as you detailed our journey through out, well hope we remain good friends.. Thank you MzNelly . . . . Love you hun 1 Like 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Happy Birthday To A Friend And A Brother - Johnydon22 by johnydon22(m): 11:55pm On Dec 28, 2015 |
frank317:Lol.. thanks frank 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Happy Birthday To A Friend And A Brother - Johnydon22 by johnydon22(m): 11:54pm On Dec 28, 2015 |
KingEbukaNaija: Hahahaha bolded always the funny part but i wouldn't blame none though... Lmao.. i never reach that one ooo Wish you same 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Happy Birthday To A Friend And A Brother - Johnydon22 by johnydon22(m): 10:45pm On Dec 28, 2015 |
Annunaki:That's ok bro, i will engage as long as i have enough time to.. I really wish you know how much i have learnt about Christian theology remember i was one once.. But seriously i have nothing against the Philosophies of Jesus (if the ones written in the gospels are actually his) Buddha, confucius, Ghandi or even Martin lurther King Jnr, socrates and many others i greatly respect their philosophies and none of these have anything in connection to be me being atheistic.. Well i look forward to it  1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Happy Birthday Johnnydon22(aka Johnnysky) by johnydon22(m): 10:13pm On Dec 28, 2015 |
Am wowed by the love and well wishes, i greatly and sincerely thank you all.. Humbled by the honour.. FearlessChicken lets hope you become more fear less sweety Ichommy thanks brother onetrack i see you kevoh i comot cap virginboy1 thanks much bro hahn where ma gift  I appreciate you brokeenn thanks so much allanphash7 i see you totally boss And everyone... i love and respect you all.. Thank you.. 5 Likes 3 Shares |
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