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sonOfLucifer:
Omenala is indeed monotheistic.

I found a good thread on another forum that discusses this extensively. Highly educative and articulate discussions the kind rarely seen on AFrica's number 1 forum https://destee.com/index.php?threads/igbo-spirituality-101.50089/

You just lost me now with this omenala is monotheistic.... What

plaetton:
Oh wow!
Great rebuttal.

Actually it was a wonderful rebuttal... I think he really did one heck of a job in refuting ur post totally... am impressed by the intelligence he employed ...

Gaborone:
We have good reasons to do so: we believe He exists, and more than that, He is life to us.

Lol ... thats great...

You believe with FAITH right?

So i take it that you agree with evolution then?

It's nice discussing our own ancestral mythology You know sometimes discussing foreign mythologies gets stale.

Abuamam:
Please expantiate on the persona/ role of Ekwensu in Igbo mythology.

Ekwensu is also a god of trickery and trade. . magic and sometimes cures barrenness. Its just some kind of trickster god who derives pleasure from mischief and trickery.

In the igbo pentheon Ekwensu is not an advisary of Chukwu in any way but just a lesser god just like others; Amadioha, Fijioku and the etc.

sonOfLucifer:
As usual, they come up empty. Their pathetic worldview is hinged upon that which they detest.

Lmao... and as usual you chose to run and not answer ur questions when redirected to u..

Tallesty1:
You didn't get me clearly.

My point is, science and religion seek to answer different and unrelated questions. The place they seem to disagree is when it comes to the supernatural elements found in religion which is understandable but it shouldn't cause any conflict. I have nothing against atheism, nothing at all.

We should first see the methods by which these questions are strived to be answered... Am sure you know science is not a belief system but simply means study through observation, experiment.
So science (study) can never be the same with religion which claims to know answers without study. When it comes to the supernatural mumbo jumbo, then before such claims can be substantiated you should provide proof, if their is no proof it is easier to dismiss the claim as mere baseless assumptions. if you say it requires no proof for deduction then how come you knew in the first place... its termed plain assumption

Tallesty1:
In bible, God showed wonders and performed miracles through Moses to the people of Israel yet some of them didn't belief him and in him.

God(allah) did too in the quran, God(krishna) also did. God (zeus) did almost more than what is claimed in the bible... All these are just claims that are not substantiated...

Tallesty1:
Jesus also walked on earth like you and I, performed many wonders and miracles(unscientific thou) yet people didn't belief him.

Mithras walked this earth like you and i and performed many wonders...Yet you dont believe him

Tallesty1:
Today, despite that there are well written human records to prove Jesus Christ’s authenticity and historicity yet people still do not belief in him. So it is not new.

First the criteria for modern historicity doesnt even involve supernatural claims when it goes contrary to archeological findings.
Hercules, Mithras, Jesus even Horus etc.. all have written accounts testifying to them with claims of supernatural fits.(they all predates jesus am sure u know) how come you disbelieve them?
Modern history do not deny the fact that these characters may have existed but the fables surrounding them is where it says "Nope, this didnt happen"
Jesus is a very common name is isreal and so is herakles (hercules) in greece.
(e.g) The written sources claim Hercules, Mithras and Jesus were all born through supernatural beings. (ironically u dont believe hercules and mithras part even tho they predate the jesus fable.)... For these claims to be substantiated you must first prove the existence of supernatural entities then demonstrate they can impregnate a human.

Tallesty1:
Religionists maybe right, likewise scientists but my point is, they operate in the different channel.

Is this water hot? Yes and No can never be right for one question.
Which do you think is more reliable and should be applied.
Study(experiment/observations) or just theology(give answers that are shielded from scrutiny)?

Tallesty1:
Atheism should let religion be and religion should let atheism be, in the end we will find out who was right.

I think religions should let themselves/planet be first, by stopping this nonsense of blowing themselves up or taking to the streets with microphones to threaten people with burning...How come discussion/argument now means not letting religions be.

sonOfLucifer:
@Op
What does the term God mean to you?

It can mean the gallery of a theater stage.

sonOfLucifer:
Which is more plausible:
: the universe has a Creator.
: the universe has no Creator.
Why or why not?

Which is more plausible:
This creator has a creator.
this creator has no creator.
why or why not?

sonOfLucifer:
What does it mean to be human?

Surprisingly that is coming from a supposed human... You can answer that.

sonOfLucifer:
Can humans create?
From what do humans create?

Oh humans make things from other things.... So from what did this creator create?

donglazy:
@OP i foresee really dangerous things coming ur way to prove to you that God exists... mark these words

And this is ur way to prove ur god exists? by laying baseless threats? Very Very Childish... Which of the God concepts are you even speaking for?

TheFilmmaker:
Lol, I'm no troll, I just sometimes prefer memes. OK. Let's argue.

Argue about what exactly

I love this keep it up bro...Igbo mythology is so colourful and beautiful.. it was their own little way of doing science.. they could read the stars (astrology), predict the seasons, divided the year into 365days correctly... I love being an igbo man.

TheFilmmaker:
How would you want me to argue?

Dude you are just a troll, you opened a thread and when people enter your thread of course surely to challenge it, you cower away and resort to posting memes and pictures instead of establishing your stance with ur own reason and refuting their posts logically...

Holatunde007:
God doesn't exit and yet u saw many of his works on earth.....you sleep in the night and wake up in d morning like u were promised, the oxygen that's all over the world is free for you, if u had to use ur gas, I wonder if u won't pay, yet the oxygen is free, I guess it was ur grandfather that created all those things right? U drop a piece of maize under the ground and u have millions of it in return, yet u think God doesn't knws abt it? Hmmmmmmm young man don't u think u need a medical fitness certificate at this stage?

So all these things you just mentioned, which of the God concepts are responsible for them. Cus their are almost 3000 different God concepts that lay claim to these... so which do you think did it?

Op TheFilmmaker You are not even here to argue ur case logically seems you are helping them troll ur thread...

Tallesty1:
It is really funny how scientists who base their belief/acceptance on logic and observations of the material universe and its properties which completely excludes transcendence say that God who who is not dependent upon the material universe or its properties for his existence does not exist because there is not concrete evidence. Isn't that a category mistake?

And this is literally why there are atheists. You say a god that exists transcends the material world therefore can never be empirically perceived.
Then how come you found out their is?

Since it transcends the material world, their is no way you can know their is something like that unless you just assumed it up. And this shows your conviction that a god exists is ur assumption and your claim that a god exists outside the material is yet another blatant assumption.

But you claim it transcends the material world then at the same time claims you know that god thereby proving that the god even though transcends the material world can still be known and so you are then asked to provide evidence for it.
Since you claim that you know something you still claim transcends the material (which leaves one wondering how you can know something that transcends material), anybody asking for you evidence is very in order.

so if anybody must said to be in mistake, it is you who claim to know what you still claim transcends the material (therefore can never be a subject of material knowledge)

Osirimononaye:
Chilling In heaven

I think you have a personal relationship with dishonesty

jamesbawa:
I would rather live my life as if there is
a God and die to find out there isn't,
than live as if there isn't and to die to
find out that there is...
Albert Camus

Please expatiate more on what u mean by the bolded.. "as if there is a god" what do you mean by that?

Scholar8200:
As verified by science. Note that neither the biblical quote nor the website linked this to day and night.

Nope read that verse again and tell me it stipulates a solar system that is going around the milky way galaxy as you desperately is begging it to mean... You are just conjuring up your own meaning of a verse that is basically not even in the league of what you want it to mean...

thats why i asked, so after reading this verse, you interpret it to mean the writer was referring to a solar system revolving around a galaxy... Lol.. laughable..

maybe you would interpret twinkle twinkle little star to mean big bang soon...

#This is so not worth my time..

Scholar8200:
Consider Psalm 19:4-6a
4 Yet their voice [in evidence] goes out through all the earth, their sayings to the end of the world. Of the heavens has God made a tent for the sun,
5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber; and it rejoices as a strong man to run his course.
6 Its going forth is from the end of the heavens, and its circuit to the ends of it;

So you read this verse and the interpretation you give to it is, the writer must have implied the solar system was moving around the center of the milky way galaxy...

UncleSnr:
I wasn't conscious of my pre-life, why should I be conscious of my after-life?

No be small thing ooo...

An2elect2:
They are going to a place where they will cease to be called atheists.

We don't have atheists in the great beyond

Just same place you are going... You decay and become and organic component of the planet just like every other material in the planet changes from one state to the other....

Dead people are bleeping dead... No great beyond..

Osirimononaye:
*winkz*

Lol...

Osirimononaye:
Eyahhh

Hahahahahahahahaha Your Eyahhh is really misplaced... I'd rather you pity yourself

Scholar8200:
How did you arrive at the highlighted?

Don't really know, thats just where his sentiments rests... its certainly not true... I.Q has nothing to do with belief or unbelief

Osirimononaye:
Are u an atheist

Yeap

Osirimononaye:
Lol, when Atheist Die, where are they going to

Dead men don't go anywhere, because they are dead.