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Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 9:56am On Apr 29, 2015
Misogynist2014:
grin I can't laugh! I am 100% sure that the Good Book is true.
True in what aspect, borrowing the mesopotamian/babylonian myth?

or stipulating the earth was less than 10,000 years when carbon dating shows it to be up to 4billion?

Or creating day and night before the sun? How can a planet be created 4days independent of it's parent star whose gravity holds it?

How can day and night be created four days before the sun which causes day and night?

Or placing stars in the firmament (clouds) . . lmao if you think these true then i must say it will be a very huge disgrace to you as a 21st century homo sapien. . In the age of information, Ignorance is a choice.
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 9:51am On Apr 29, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Like I said, Gen is not subject to Moses alone.
Genesis was not even written by Moses, moses is still not considered a historical figure.. . . in fact even the moses fable also has its own share of Sumerian influence. . the story of moses set adrift on a river was borrowed from the story of Sagon King of Akkad. .
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 9:24am On Apr 29, 2015
ifeness:
@johnydon22 @Misogynist2014. Now that it is obvious that the Bible is not Original,will Misogynist2014 stop using the word "God"? Will he accept gracefully that he had been deceived all along? Will he accept the series of evidence put before him and thank/apologies to the two gentle who have enlightened him about the flaws and plagiarism surrounding the bible?
We are talking ancient mythological antiquities, am not here to convert anybody or convince anyone.

I only argue based on the facts, i was once a christian so i understand how emotionally attached one can be to ones religion.

It still doesnt call for him to stop using the word "God" or turn atheistic, after all. All the creation accounts were purely disproven when the earth carbon dated to be 4billion years old, it never stopped people from being believers.

The worst part is that we are Africans, i keep on wondering why people choose to believe the jewish mythology as universal truth and disbelief their OWN very mythology.. Lol...
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 8:50am On Apr 29, 2015
Misogynist2014:
The Enuma Elis is a distortion of the account of Genesis, since Genesis happened in reality, its historicity is not subject to Moses alone. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enûma_Eliš It cannot destroy historicity of the Bible due to being a myth, no, it establish it! (Bible is independently verifiable)

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him
not as God,
neither were thankful; but became vain in their
imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an
image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and
fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness
through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their
own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped
and served the creature more than the Creator, who is
blessed for ever. Amen.


http://creation.mobi/myth-about-myths
@ Jonydon22
@ ifeness
enuma elish is the babylonian account written in the late 12century BC. .it predates the genesis account by atleast a thousand years before the jewish account.

Babylonian civilization started even before the emergence of jewish civilization in the canaanite society.

the enuma elish was written in cuneiform clay tablets, one of the oldest wing material ever used.

The genesis account was written during the isreali exile into babylonia

Comparative mythology provides historical and cross-cultural perspectives
for Jewish mythology . Both sources behind the Genesis creation narrative
borrowed themes from Mesopotamian mythology, but adapted them to
their belief in one God , [5] establishing a monotheistic creation in
opposition to the polytheistic creation myth of ancient Israel's neighbors.
[16]
Genesis 1–11 as a whole is imbued with Mesopotamian myths. [17]
Genesis 1 bears both striking differences from and striking similarities to
Babylon's national creation myth, the Enuma Elish . On the side of
similarities, both begin from a stage of chaotic waters before anything is
created, in both a fixed dome-shaped "firmament" divides these waters
from the habitable Earth, and both conclude with the creation of a human
called "man" and the building of a temple for the god (in Genesis 1, this
temple is the entire cosmos). [18] On the side of contrasts, Genesis 1 is
uncompromisingly monotheistic , it makes no attempt to account for the
origins of God , and there is no trace of the resistance to the reduction of
chaos to order (Gk. theomachy , lit. "God-fighting"wink, all of which mark the
Mesopotamian creation accounts. [5] It also bears similarities to the Baal
Cycle of Israel's neighbor, Ugarit . [citation needed ]
The Enuma Elish has also left traces on Genesis 2. Both begin with a
series of statements of what did not exist at the moment when creation
began; the Enuma Elish has a spring (in the sea) as the point where
creation begins, paralleling the spring (on the land – Genesis 2 is notable
for being a "dry" creation story) in Genesis 2:6 that "watered the whole
face of the ground"; in both myths, Yahweh/the gods first create a man to
serve him/them, then animals and vegetation. At the same time, and as
with Genesis 1, the Jewish version has drastically changed its Babylonian
model: Eve, for example, seems to fill the role of a mother goddess when, in
Genesis 4:1, she says that she has "created a man with Yahweh", but she
is not a divine being like her Babylonian counterpart. [19]
Genesis 2 has close parallels with a second Mesopotamian myth, the
Atra-Hasis epic – parallels that in fact extend throughout Genesis 2–11,
from the Creation to the Flood and its aftermath. The two share numerous
plot-details (e.g. the divine garden and the role of the first man in the
garden, the creation of the man from a mixture of earth and divine
substance, the chance of immortality, etc.), and have a similar overall
theme: the gradual clarification of man's relationship with God(s) and
animals. [13]
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_creation_narrative


The Enûma Eliš has about a thousand lines and is recorded in Old
Babylonian on seven clay tablets , each holding between 115 and 170 lines
of Sumero-Akkadian cuneiform script . Most of Tablet V has never been
recovered but, aside from this lacuna , the text is almost complete. A
duplicate copy of Tablet V has been found in Sultantepe, ancient Huzirina,
near the modern town of Şanlıurfa in Turkey .



http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enuma_Elish

meanwhile i wonder the need for quoting out of context biblical verses in a different argument, u have to go learn how to argue...
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 8:31am On Apr 29, 2015
Misogynist2014:
What I mean is that, wasn't life on earth triggered by tiny particles?
And U are still hanging unto ur misguided blunder..

What tiny particles?

under which scientific study was life asserted to have started with tiny particles?

what is the name of this tiny particles in the first place.?
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 1:28am On Apr 29, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Though the Jews don't believe in Trinity because it hasn't been revealed, they at least believe in the (26 And God said, Let us make man in our image,) GODLINESS (plural distinct state bond by LOVE) which was hidden from the foundation of the world in order not to be mixed with gods.

That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet,
saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter
things which have been kept secret from the foundation of
the world.
It was hidden from them, then suddenly god snapped and said "aaaah leme reveal it to some funny dressed old men and a greedy roman emperor presiding over the council of nicea. . . lol.. cheesy Funny god eeehn wink

What you dont know is that if the council of nicea never agreed on the deity of Jesus, you wouldn't have the trinity dogma now. . everything you believe is a result of those old men meeting to determine it. .
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 1:24am On Apr 29, 2015
Misogynist2014:
There will be at least a rainfall before December.
Puahahahahahahahahahahahahaha someone named johnydon22 will post on nairaland before december.. here thats another prophecy cheesy cheesy

And you need faith to believe this crap above? ...lmao.. Johny have seen things oo cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 1:22am On Apr 29, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Big bang
Big bang means tiny particles??
Woooooow shocked . . . Am dead!!! cheesy education is murdered
Can you define what big bang is please please!!! huh
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 1:14am On Apr 29, 2015
Misogynist2014:
If not by faith, how will I predict the future? If I have a very strong database, won't it be a walk in the park?
Future? Now give me an example !!! predict a future occurrence lets see smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 1:13am On Apr 29, 2015
ifeness:
Even if they do,the bottom line is the story belonged to the Sumerians. They told it,not Moses. The answer still points towards Big Bang theory. We need to chill and let science figure out more or add the dots. Remember science deal with evidence and not assumption. God is a lie.
Hey calm down. . . . lol.. you are speeding cool
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 1:12am On Apr 29, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Showing the absurdity in your post.
Lmao, you brought up the trinity yarn to cover up the jewish blunder.

Elohim being derived from EL (the supreme god of the canaanite pentheon) was a plural form being used when referring to el and his consort asherah.

Isreal was a canaanite civilization and derived their god concept from the canaanite pentheon, EL.
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 1:09am On Apr 29, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Doesn't clay contain 'TINY PARTICLES'?
By tiny particles you meanhuh
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 1:07am On Apr 29, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Neither does it make it untrue. But you cling unto things because they have proven to be trustable
17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many
nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who
quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not
as though they were.
18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might
become the father of many nations, according to that
which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
19 And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own
body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old,
neither yet the deadness of Sarah's womb:
20 He staggered not at the promise of God through
unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised,
he was able also to perform.
Lmoa thats a blatant lie, i have no 1million dollars in my account so it is purely untrue.

Muslims believe allah exist with faith but i have seen you dispute this. cus you dont believe allah too..

Hindhus believe krishna by faith buh dude you still dont...

Even if they have your precious faith...

Oga ur faith doesnt make anything true, it doesnt even increase its probability of being true. .that u believe something with faith simply means you can believe anything even if its not true..

Certainty do not need faith, you and i do not need faith to know that 1+1 = 2
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 1:02am On Apr 29, 2015
ifeness:
That was the original. The bible wrongly claimed humans were made from clay,but at least it was obvious genetic manipulations were made in a lab by many god-like beings who themselves had their own planet filled with millions of them. Just like us visiting another planet and out astronauts being worshiped as gods when they landed.
The sumerian story also asserted man was made from clay
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 1:00am On Apr 29, 2015
Misogynist2014:
TRINITY
hehehehe so the jews had the trinity in mind? How come they failed to mention it .. How come the trinity yarn were never part of the jewish religion (remember all their revelations came directly from god to moses) How come the trinity doctrine was established fully as dogma at the council of nicea in the 3rd century AD..
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 12:58am On Apr 29, 2015
Misogynist2014:
SUBSTANCE OF THINGS HOPED FOR, EVIDENCE OF THINGS NOT SEEN.
Hoped for? simply put means WISHFUL THINKING..

i have faith that their is a wooping sum of 1million dollars in my account..
Common, that shiit doesnt make it true cool
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 12:55am On Apr 29, 2015
Misogynist2014:
What about their differences?
Their are many differences alright seeing that the jews worked with a mildly monotheistic mindset, Only their usage of ELOHIM in plural (us, our, we) shows that the god they portrayed still had other companions. . clearly shows their were more than one god in the picture.
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 12:52am On Apr 29, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Anu , the god of gods, agreed that their labour was too
great. His son Enki , or Ea, proposed to create man to bear
the labour, and so, with the help of his half-sister Ninki , he
did. A god was put to death, and his body and blood was
mixed with clay. From that material the first human being
was created, [size=20]in likeness to the gods.[/size]

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, [size=20]after our
likeness[/size]: and let them have dominion over the fish of the
sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and
over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that
creepeth upon the earth.





HOW DO THEY CORRELATE?
cool
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 12:37am On Apr 29, 2015
ifeness:
What is that?
it is the sumerian creation story you just posted the link to..
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 12:35am On Apr 29, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Why not?
And you had no idea that enuma elish is the sumerian creation story . . . ifenes posted a link of it, you offered to read it tomorrow showing you had no idea that mesopotamian (sumerian) creation story is the enuma elish wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Scriptures Expounded: Your Hairs Are Numbered - by johnydon22(m): 12:34am On Apr 29, 2015
Misogynist2014:
I have a lot of things against Bible safely stored on my opera, which I open whenever I have nothing to do. When you have something 100% true, things like this are a walkover.
So belief is 100% truehuh what then is the need for FAITHhuh

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