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theAtheist101:
Who cares about Somalia? You love Nigeria, right? So to "hell" with all other countries! And please always justify our wrong deeds.

The book is nothing! We just need to copy, edit, and paste other people mythological works. We would even include present scientific findings in it!

Hehehehehehe yes you are right my son, let me go copy and paste mesopotamian, sumerian, ugarik, egyptian and helenistic age mythology. . am sure it will be super cool. . .

malvisguy212:
Faith is a knowledge within the heart,
beyond the reach of proof . Which of the unquestionable idea the bible laid? The bible advice the believers to to be fully convinced of what they believe.

Faith, that is where it falls. . . Muslims have faith that allah is real and they are fully convinced of this yet you doubt it, Hindus have faith that Krishna exists and they are fully convinced of this yet you doubt it...

I may claim a black flying diamond rabbit exist and believe with faith, this still doesnt make it true. its just belief and nothing more.

So you see; Having faith in a thing does not make it true. Your faith doesnt even make it probably true, having faith has no wieght on truth at all. Having faith simply means "You will believe anything even if it's not true..

theAtheist101:
Your version is far better than what we read in those religious books. Very soon, you would start having some "mumu-s" worshiping you. What is left of you is sticking to your tale! Never, ever change it, even when a better logical explanation comes your way.

All the best in starting your "spiritual" empire, god Johnydon22.

Yes my son, eeeeeeehm remember to pray for me today to give u ur daily bread while thousands of kids die is somalia out of famine and starvation.

Please i will need some help writing my owm holy book

kay1one2:
Lemme save you the stress. I studied medicine and I follow science to its limits. I've been in this business for five years and I know that man doesn't have all the answers!

Medicine good i love that keep it up bro. . medicine is not Astronomy neither is medicine anything near quantum physics. . .

Man do not have all the answers that is why their are studies going on, without questions there wont be any answers needed. . so science strives on unanswered question. You should know this.

Employing "god did it" because you lack answers to a particular question. is a very severe blow to the intellectual curiosity of man because you have purposely slain your ability to research and study to see exactly what the answer is.

This you should know is what science is. .

kay1one2:
Its unfortunate He might eventually become very real to you when He smacks your mouth into eternal damnation! No apologies!

Hahahahaha and there you have it, he has just shown us he is worshipping his fears you still fear ur reworked Greek fairy tale of tartarus portrayed as hell fire in ur bible

And this shows how sick of a moral basis you theists learnt from ur god concept. . Wishing someone burns for eternity and be comfortable with it.

Actually my morality goes way beyong that, i have never and can never wish someone or anybody burns and this shows am more moral than this ur egoistic, saddistic jewish deity that derives pleasures in burning people

kay1one2:
You are worshiping an image, hubble or andromeda. Thats a modern day idol. I worship One who transcends your understanding!

Hahahahahaha so scientific study automatically becomes an idol? . . . and this dude said he is scientifically inclined. . **Hits hand of forehead** #Sighs. .

isn't it funny how andromeda galaxy is more real and proven than ur supposed sky daddy

menesheh:
why you shouldn't mind them is that they forgot that we too are born,raised and ingrained with the same sort of religious ideas like them but out of keen reasoning and critical thinking, we broke out of the bondage of the silly mess called religion

They think we were born atheists they never knew most of us were even deeper than they ever can in religious stuffs. . . i for one spent 6 formative years in the seminary.

kay1one2:
Did you know she celebrated her 25th birthday this past week?! I don't worship idols I.e images I can see!

Oh yes actually i follow hubble official twitter acount so i am well aware. . below is a pic of the white house science advisor reading a letter from obama to Nasa during the ceremony.

second pic is that of our dear hubble making a remarkable and epic mark in the intellectual evolution of man. .

as for worshipping idol ...thats funny.. Nobody asked u to provide a pic of a carved stone. . you likened the existence of amdromeda galaxy to ur god, so we need a photo of ur god (not carved stone) just like we have a photo of andromeda galaxy. . . just a photo will be proof enough for me

Hopez456:
I just wasted my meager Mb. @Op do well next time.

Can you disprove my claim

truthman2012:
I do know quite well.

Really?

then asnwer menesheh his question.

That still didn't answer any of the questions but rather did raise more
deeper questions how the spy camera monster in the sky aka heaven is,
a man or woman, white or black, the looks of the vacuum or void he
came from, whether he existed alone or with colleagues etc

kay1one2:
Enjoy your weekend!

Hahahahahahahaha and we also have a hubble imaging of the great andromeda galaxy . . . Can i see a photo of your god then i promise i will believe

kay1one2:
Yeah like you need proof wind exists or the andromeda galaxy exists

Ironically you too don't doubt the existence of these things too

kay1one2:
without just taking what has been written in the science books of which I am a student. How about that America exists? Everybody utilises belief. Some just rather not put into something that puts them a little below the level they should rightfully be in!

And still you too dont doubt the existence of America. . atleast we have used a dollar bill before

Ever wonder the unending debate on how the universe came to be and who created it? many claims have been made that a deity did it (thousands of deities to be precise. . Zeus, el, Ea, yahweh, allah, krishna and hundreds of them)

Now let me tell you how it really started. . . I and my girl friend created the universe. We are uncreated and we existed before time for all eternity.

We existed literally forever then got bored one day and decided to create the universe, we did by speaking everything magically into existence from nothing.

And then we created man because we want beings that will be groveling, loving and worshipping us, because somehow even as perfect omnipotent omniscient beings we still need love and worship ..()

and that is it... Now you dang atheist can you disprove i didn't create the world? DProDG davien theAtheist101 MrPresident finofoya pr0ton wiegraf frank317 etc . . **Actually i and my girl friend are real cus am the one actually typing and making this claim, something none of the of other deities ever did or can do **

kay1one2:
Seriously the fundamental sin in the world is pride and I give that to you! I hope if and when you have a kid, he/she comes up to you and says you had absolutely nothing to do with his/her existence! Please if you can lemme me get to know about this event which I would consider to be really good news!

With all these crap up there it begs the question.

Which of the gods created the universe allah, horus, yahweh, ea, el and thousand others.

Have any of them ever been proven before or substantiated. . No therefore it remains a claim until proven.

If dangote comes now and claims to be my father (tho none of ur deities ever did, y'all just claiming it for them because a book said so)
i have every right to disbelieve dangote being my father (even tho he is real) until we have a DNA test then it will be PROVEN ... So first we need a proof of any deity you think exists.

truthman2012:
You want to know His details, pray and let Him reveal Himself to you. If I tell you, you would not believe it. Have a personal relationship with Him.

Let me guess you have been praying to him since how come you dont know any of the details?

truthman2012:
Is the universe the same as its creator?

You assumed up this creator, since you have no idea how the universe came to be why dont you just say "I don't know" just like i always say.

The universe is material and from ur assertions this ur creator is not material therefore amounts to nothing. .

truthman2012:
The fools say in their hearts that there is no God.

Actually a fool says in his heart, but on the contrary we say it with our mouth and type it on nairaland. . so we didn't fall into the foolish category that the foolish bible stipulated.

truthman2012:
Nothing can cause something. What caused the world to existence?

No atheist ever claimed nothing caused something. . . But right on the contrary you theists are the ones claiming this.

1. You assume your god was not created therefore pops out of nothing just like that.

2. He creates the universe with just a word (no material therefore nothing) and everything just pops out magically from nothing. .

Now who is claiming something came from nothing?

truthman2012:
God is not a 'thing' or 'something'. He has no beginning, therefore He has no CAUSE. We began to hear of Him after He created the Universe.

Psalm 90:2
Before the mountains
were brought forth, or
ever thou hadst formed
the earth and the world,
even from EVERLASTING to EVERLASTING, thou art God.

He existed from everlasting.

God has no beginning, but then again you turn around and persist the universe must have a beginning. .

If your god don't have a beginning then it is also right to say the universe have no beginning therefore needs no creator. .

kay1one2:
So the one above isn't enough to at least keep you busy for a while? Well read it at least twice and tell me if you've started connecting the strings.

..hahahahaha why is this your "evolutionary yarn on one wonder cell" so hard for you to back up

boy take it from me.. Go and start reading, you need more books

kay1one2:
You know what they say; "I'm making sense. You're just not smart enough yet to get it!"

..lmao when you cant even back up your naive assumptions i don die.

I ask again please cite me a scientific reference where evolution asserts life began from one single cell ( in ur own voice ; Wonder cell )

kay1one2:
So you want to see "wonder cell" before you make a link between the two. Are you purposely trying to be a nuisance? !

Nope am trying so hard to find where it is stipulated that evolution asserts life began from one cell. . . but none of your links seems to support this your baseless assumptions that have been the basis of your constant yapping from the beginning of this thread. . .

This is what you get when ur argument is based on assumptions and not knowledge.. oga go pick a book and read about evolution.

kay1one2:
A protocell (or protobiont) is a self-organized, endogenously ordered, spherical collection of lipids proposed as a stepping-stone to the origin of life.[1] A central question in evolution is how simple [size=20]protocells[/size] first arose and how they could differ in reproductive output, thus enabling the accumulation of novel biological emergences over time, i.e. biological evolution. Although a functional protocell has not yet been achieved in a laboratory setting, the goal to understand the process appears well within reach.[2][3][4][5]


I think I'm spending too much time on you and it's belittling of me!

protocells!!! Read it again !!! #SMH

advice : Pick a book on evolution, read it first and know exactly what is it you are dealing with before coming to nairaland to raise baseless assumptive yarns. .

kay1one2:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_history_of_life




http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocell

Can I rest now?!

You see what i mean? Their is no way any of your link stipulated that evolution asserts life began from a single wonder cell. . .

This is how people fail in their own argument. . . Next time read something first before swimming in ur own river of assumptions. .

in fact here is what ur link of wikipedia said

The earliest evidence for life on Earth is graphite found to be biogenic in
3.7 billion-year-old metasedimentary rocks discovered in western
Greenland [5] and microbial mat fossils found in 3.48 billion-year-old
sandstone discovered in Western Australia . [6][7] Microbial mats of
coexisting bacteria and archaea were the dominant form of life in the early
Archean and many of the major steps in early evolution are thought to
have taken place within them. [8] The evolution of oxygenic
photosynthesis, around 3.5 Ga, eventually led to the oxygenation of the
atmosphere , beginning around 2.4 Ga. [9] The earliest evidence of
eukaryotes (complex cells with organelles) dates from 1.85 Ga, [10][11]
and while they may have been present earlier, their diversification
accelerated when they started using oxygen in their metabolism . Later,
around 1.7 Ga, multicellular organisms began to appear, with differentiated
cells performing specialised functions. [12] Bilateria , animals with a front
and a back, appeared by 555 Ma (million years ago).

Their is no mention of life beginning from one wonder cell . . .

#Sighs. .

kay1one2:
Common sense. Or you believe different cells all emerged at the samr time? Or that the person that came out of water also had various cells doing other things?

..lol.. we are talking evolution here. . . please cite a scientific reference where evolution asserts life began from one wonder cell. . . Or cant you? is your analogies based on your assumptions? #You Have Proved Beyond Reasonable Doubt That You Have Never Read About Evolution.

Please am waiting for your scientific reference where evolution asserts that life began from one wonder cell. . . ??

kay1one2:
That led to where we are now. I never asked for the source of your wonder cell. I only said it couldn't produce all of us. The evolutionary theory still begins with one cell evolving. I never asked for how the cell began.

And you are still hanging on real tight to ur misinformation. . . please cite me a scientific reference where it is asserted that evolution began with one cell evolving. . . please ?? ??

kay1one2:
Please what is the source of life in the evolutionary theory? !

This shows you didn't read my refutation of your op or maybe forgot. . let me quote myself for you again.

First evolution does not explain how life began. (Thats a study under
abiogensis, you may do well to learn more about it)
Evolution simply means change in heritable traits of biological populations
over
successive generations.
And proposes that life on Earth originated
through common descent from a [last universal
ancestor that lived approximately 3.5–3.8 billion years ago. . So you need
to shoot the person that gave you that idea that evolution deals with
crawling of life from a single celled organism. Science 101

The source of life is another subject of study very distinct from evolution. . evolution simply means The progressive change of heritable traits.

kay1one2:
The source of stem cells is the bone marrow. Its very rare for them to be found elsewhere. Quote me!

Oh mehhhnn.. i think you need to get your facts right i swear..

There are three known accessible sources of autologous adult stem cells
in humans:
1. Bone marrow, which requires extraction by harvesting , that is, drilling
into bone (typically the femur or iliac crest ).

2. Adipose tissue (lipid cells), which requires extraction by liposuction.

3. Blood, which requires extraction through apheresis , wherein blood is
drawn from the donor (similar to a blood donation), and passed through a
machine that extracts the stem cells and returns other portions of the
blood to the donor.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell

[size=20] That moment you see someone arguing over a wonder cell in evolution when evolution never mentioned one. makes you wonder Why don't people just pick a book and read stuffs first . . . [/size]

kay1one2:
Please you can read the thread before coming here to talk crap. Stem cells are mainly located in the bone marrow and you cannot take a pig stem cell to produce human tissues!

Did you take out the part that stem cells are also found in blood and adipose tissues. . and you forgot this three main sources bone, blood and adipose tissues are for autologous adult stem cells. . did you willfully take that part out?

You forgot to mention their are embryonic stem cells too which is a different type of stem cells different from autologous adult stem cells. . . .

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kay1one2:
I'm glad you find it "inconcievable"! He found it that way too that's why He sent His Only Son to pay the sacrifice for your sins which is what leads a person to hell aka eternal worthlessness to God and His eternal plan for creation!

Hahahahaha and he even planned it in the first place? That sounds like a confused sick ego maniac to me..

kay1one2:
All exists in Him. At creation the production began, the separation will equally occur at some point, some to eternal bliss, others to damnation.

Hahahahahahaha you still can't assertain how your god began. . . Now you move to the barbaric saddistic aspect. . . evidently i am more moral than your god cus i wouldn't think of burning anybody cus they disobeyed me or failed to worship me. . it sounds like this ur god has a character disorder.

What barbaric monster will subject billions of people to eternal torture because of finite trespasses and be ok with it. .

A god that will wear a grin while subjecting billions to roast in a fire he prepared for them.. I find this unconcieveable and this goes a long way to show that my basic sense of morality is billions of times better than that of ur god..