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Shawl001:
. Lol#...i laugh at ur ignorance! So pathetic...Jesus chose to die ƒσя our sin not that He was murdered. He died ƒσя the sin øƒ the whole world. He carried the sins øƒ mankind and nailed it on the cross..once and ƒσя all. Wait...re U̶̲̥̅̊ a xtian?

He decided to come to appease who? Zeus

Hiswordxray:
You are a natural man and that is the lowest level of man.
You are of a lower species.

Hahahaha i totally agree!!!

Shawl001:
. That's why, those that call upon the name øƒ Jesus shall be saved. Jesus brought and gave to us, privileges, rights, benefits, and Grace which we do not merit or can only thrive to get from God...that's why, i can boldly call myself a child øƒ God and refer Him as my Father. Its a privilege through Jesus. #TeamHeaven#

We call it barbarism... murder ur son son u can be appeased...

Horus:
Stop and think one moment. The name God is not really in the bible. If this is not an English book written by Englishmen, it’s not there; it was added. You are reading a translation. You will also find that God, whether you have a big G, or little g, is not being used in the singular tense, as Eloh or Allah. The beings spoken of in the bible and Koran are the Elohim, the plural of Eloh.

Elohim, the plural of el... canaanite pantheon "El is the supreme god and husband of asherah and father of 70gods... some say el is yahweh while some say yahweh is one of his sons ... but plural of el that is when you call him together with consort asherah it is elohim"

Hiswordxray:
There are three men:
1) Natural man
2) Spiritual Man
3) New Man
"having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace," (Eph 2:15).

Hajahahahahahahahahaha Natural man, spirit Man and new man...choi laf wan kill me dead...

Shawl001:
. Nothing like LUST.. God is perfect, He is full love! He only wants us to appease Him after every wrong deeds to Him. That's why people øƒ old would offer lambs as sacrifice to appease Him ƒσя their sins and wrong doing.. But now, we no longer need to offer anything rather than to praise HIM continually...Jesus offered Himself ƒσя us all. He made the sacrifice once and ƒσя all. Everything ƒσя LOVE! .....#TeamHeaven#

So the torture, murder of his own son is the thing that can appease him?
Hmmmm #ThatsWhatWeCallRealPerfection!!!

Wait let me get this straight "So god chased man out of eden so they wont eat the tree of life and have eternal life then promises eternal life after you are dead" WTF!!!
TREE OF LIFE! prrrrrrrrrrrrrf see fairy tale and when the greeks say their own people will shout myth!!!

Shawl001:
. He made a new covenant with us so as to draw us nearer. That's why i have the privilege øƒ calling Him, FATHER! Its cos øƒ Jesus' blood on calvary. If not, i would still depend on my pastor (priests) to help me communicate to God..OR still be working out my Righteousness myself, which at the end, will fail... So he cancelled the ERA øƒ sacrifices and brought the ERA øƒ GRACE ƒσя all mankind...through JESUS!!! Everything cos' øƒ the Love He has ƒσя you and me.

The era of sacrifices ...what dah heck was he doing with the damn burnt sacrifices before?
and to stop it he had to use his son as the sacrificial lamb to sate his lust for blood sacrifices!!!

Shawl001:
. Oh common, apply ur wisdom nau...while didn't U̶̲̥̅̊ continue taking cerelac or continue sucking ur mum's breast..after all, its still d same you. Pls always apply wisdom, don't just conclude or pass comment out øƒ sheer ignorance or hatred. Please!!!

I grew up... in other words i changed!!!.... But yahweh doesnt develop or change.. he is omni potent na. the same today tomorrow n forever na...So what really happened? ... The guy changed real good shaa...

Hiswordxray:
The person that doesn't know the answer is you. And what is even worst is that you are refusing the answers and yet you claim to be logical.
You are behaving as delusional as the religious people. And this shows you are not different than us even when you are hiding under another umbrella.
You are like a man that became mad because he spends too much to arguing with mad people. I would advice you to leave religion section before you get even more crazy and delusional.

hahahahahaha... dont i just love this guy!!!.... please sir no name calling... regale me the thrilling answers again i will love to see em again and accept them. … … …The bolded is funny tho...One love bro

Osahon7:
sir that was in the old testament! The best sacrifice we can give to God now is our praises and the sacrifice of our body! Jesus christ became the sacrificial lamb so no need to burn animals again

i thought he never changes?? Or is this old testament yahweh different from this new yahweh?

lolzzz... what are the xyz of evolution?
answer should be: Go read it up, if you ever read books you wouldnt have been asking such questions!!!
(Scientific books are not like the buy bull that have millions of interpretations, everybody given it their own meaning ignoring the literal meaning...Scientific books are straight and gives one explanation and means exactly what it says no different interpretations)
WE NEED A LIBRARY IN NAIRALAND... AM NOW CONSIDERING OPENING A PDF E-LIBRARY FORUM HERE ON NAIRALAND....People need more books!!!

Question still lingers, christians all confused... dunno the answer...lolzz

ok my own question is? .. who wrote genesis? where was d person when god was saying "let us create....bla bla bla" where was he that he got to record everything

Hawlahscho:
Hypothesis I think.

which means all d informations u have about him/it are probably wrong?

Osahon7:
From my little understanding about the powerful word of God!
1) John 1:1 In the beginning was God and Word was with God and word was God! Meaning in the Beginning God was already in existence before the was Earth created
2) Let us make man“ it was a convo btw God the father, The Son, and the Spirit! Trinity
3)God Created the first couple hence he gave them the ability to procreate! Just as he gave them the ability to breath
4)Read your bible...abel sacrifice wen to God as a sweet smelling savor but Cain own wasn't..infact @ that time, God freely communicate with ppl on earth unlike now when there is so much see in the world

Y does this god love killed burnt animal so much

dd12345:
@johnydon22
Please…take it easy…I undastand ur fears, I have been there b4 just like every other christians…since my childhood days up to after I finished service…Ive always been afraid of hell and my desire have been to make heaven…everytin I do…the good I do, obeying God’s commandment have been about fear of HELL…that’s itself is a torment…and I hate dat with passion…that just make me FAKE just like you said….thank God for his mercy…He delivered me from RELIGION(obeying commandment…Dos and Don’t) about 4-5 yrs ago…and since then, my life have not been the same. CHRISTIANITY is about your relationship with God…not just about obeying commandment because of fear of hell.
johnydon22, just 4get about HELL, I know you are born again, im sure about dat and I know u cant go to HELL, you don’t av what it takes to go to hell at least for now. Don’t get me wrong, I DON’T ACCEPT THE IDEALOGY OF ONCE SAVED FOREVER SAVED and at the same time, I don’t ACCEPT THE IDEALOGY OF BEING BORN AGAIN OVER AND OVER AGAIN…its in between the two. The problem of Christians is lack of knowledge about GOD which eternal life is all about…john 17:3 says And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true
God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Like lastmessenger said, Eternal life is the very life of God which He gives to believers through Jesus Christ. You do not have to die to receive eternal life. It starts right here on earth when you believe in Christ and begin to apply His words to your life.
Have you ever wondered why some Christians hardly gets sick? The simple answer is eternal life. Have you ever wondered why Paul could not be hurt by the poisonous snake that struck him? The answer is eternal.
JESUS DIDN’T COME TO DIE FOR YOU because HE WANT TO TAKE YOU ONLY TO HEAVEN, that’s is too low to be the HOPE OF A BELIEVER…JESUS CAME TO DIE FOR US BECAUSE HE WANT TO GIVE US ETERNAL LIFE…the life of God(God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit)…angels don’t av eternal life but everlasting life..
What God want to give us is ETERNAL LIFE… I JOHN 2:25 SAYS And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternall life

lmao... me afraid of a myth? are u kidding me?

Bros abeg i never believe reality finish na to believe myth join...

abeg na question i ask, just reply them if you know the answers!!!

michaelwestern:
The mistake you are making is that you are trying to rationalize God. Only God can decide what punishment is appropriate for sin. You cant use your limited human wisdom to decide what punishment is just or not.

Hahahahahahaha pathetic...smh... my human mind is imbedded with intellect and knows what is right or wrong..i thought this ur god was love and all good; am wondering how mere humans have more sense of justice and mercy than him...!!!

michaelwestern:
we will exist in the realm of the spirit

comprehension problem... You will exist in the spirit world ok, my question was in what form and shape; will you have eyes, nose, mouth, hands, legs, brains What form will you exist in? (ur spirit )

michaelwestern:
Who told you that the fire in hell will be physical fire? Do you think God is not capable of creating fire that can burn spirits?

Chai...smh

michaelwestern:
There wont be mother-son, father-daughter or husband-wife relationships in heaven. All those relationships ends on earth. We will exist as spirits in heaven and hell(for you)

Now this is funny... you wont recognize ur relatives, how come then can you recognize anything else like joy and pain...

michaelwestern:
It was created for the devil. But people like you who join the devil in rebelling against God will also join the devil in hell.

The type of evil mind possessed by this brother is unmatched... typical christian mind. Oh am so scared... Bro you cant frighten me with the same myth you frighten the shiit out of urself with..its like a child telling an adult that the candy fairy wont give them candy...Anyway my brother even tho hell is myth i still cannot think in my heart or wish anybody to burn...

michaelwestern:
Christianity is more than doing good/evil. What will condemn you for hell is not believing in Jesus Christ, not because of the bad things you have done.

Yeah typical:: this guy is very good human but heck i will burn him forever for not believing in me... Ok the other guy is evil, i will reward him with heaven cus he believed in me... Yeap thats the justice of the bible god.. nice justice..hahahaha

michaelwestern:
All your other questions shows hyprocricy, you started out questioning what the bible says about hell and now you are trying to portray the bible as false. You cant have it both ways, itz either the bible is true/false. Choose one.

that you believe something is does not make it true... I did not even dabble into the bible buh anyway u see what you want to see...
Like i always say, i am not here for argument... Read all i posted again then think again!!!

my post to one thread i will use it here to... [i] Now am happy this issue is brought been discussed...
If you see the comments of Christians in this thread now you will see that most of them are scared to the marrow of hell, they worship yahweh cus he threatened to burn you if you don't... yet he is said to be love and just and merciful all at the same time...that is like eating your cake and having it but lets not go into that.
(1)
I want whoever is reading this to ask himself "Is a finite sin worth an infinite punishment?" in plain language The human life as we all know is fleeting and passes away very quickly lets say like 100years or a little more of that at most...ok now assuming you start committing sin from the first day you were born till the day you die (100yrs later) does this worth eternity of punishment? is it justice? is this characteristic of love? let us leave any emotional attachment to any religion we practise aside and answer that question sincerely.
(2)
Ask urself assuming their is life after death in what extension will you exist, in this planet earth our extension is the human body, we have form.
eyes, nose, mouth tongue, hands, feet, brain, lungs and all this are possible because we have flesh then if their is a conscious soul that exists after death in what state? in what form or extension will it exist since we all know all the things i mentioned above are all human traits.
(3)
Pains as we know it is as a result of sensory neurons in our skin (flesh) that sends the data to the brain and then it responds to the stimuli/stimulus.. ok in this assumed state of existing after death, how would you feel pain? no skin, no brain? not even shape or form? from whence then comes the pain?
(4)Assuming you are right and their is heaven and hell, you make heaven and ur mum makes hell and you are fully aware ur mum is burning for eternity in hell, is that not a torture of its own? can you live with that for eternity?
(5)Who exactly was hell created for Humans/demons? cus from what you christians hype (Those that claim to have gone to hell and back) demons are the ones torturing humans even more than the flames... it leaves me with a question "Was this hell created for demons or humans?..." did this god just create hell after creating humans incase man bleeps up, then gather some more spirit beings keep em there and use em to torture his so loved humans?
(6)
For all the people shouting "repent for hell is real" if you do something cus of a reward or cus u might be punished is that thing really good? or you just did it for ur own selfish interest.
that means without the promise of heaven or threat of hell most of you here will be bad.
But goodness is not about that "Goodness is doing what is right because you know it is right" Be good for goodness sake.
..........
If you are good to others because of the promise of heaven, that shows how little you think of others
If you are good to others because of the threat of hell that shoes how little you think of urself.. Be good cus it is good.
(7)
How did you get to know that heaven and hell are real?
(a) A book told you?
(b)someone told you?
(c) Did you perceive them with ur conscious mind
if (a) and (b) is ur answer then is that real knowledge? ..how sure are you that it is the truth?
if (c) is the case it means you have percieved heaven and hell with your conscious mind just like you do the earth... we have all percieved this earth with our conscious mind and we all know earth is real, we cant argue about that!… unfortunately same is not the case with heaven or hell
After all this my conclusion is Be good for goodness sake; Radiate boundless love towards everything that is known, the earth and every creature in it and every human in it regardless of any differences...Then you will learn the true meaning of goodness (morality)
AM NOT HERE FOR ARGUMENT, JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT

Now am happy this issue is brought been discussed...
If you see the comments of Christians in this thread now you will see that most of them are scared to the marrow of hell, they worship yahweh cus he threatened to burn you if you don't... yet he is said to be love and just and merciful all at the same time...that is like eating your cake and having it but lets not go into that.
(1)
I want whoever is reading this to ask himself "Is a finite sin worth an infinite punishment?" in plain language The human life as we all know is fleeting and passes away very quickly lets say like 100years or a little more of that at most...ok now assuming you start committing sin from the first day you were born till the day you die (100yrs later) does this worth eternity of punishment? is it justice? is this characteristic of love? let us leave any emotional attachment to any religion we practise aside and answer that question sincerely.
(2)
Ask urself assuming their is life after death in what extension will you exist, in this planet earth our extension is the human body, we have form.
eyes, nose, mouth tongue, hands, feet, brain, lungs and all this are possible because we have flesh then if their is a conscious soul that exists after death in what state? in what form or extension will it exist since we all know all the things i mentioned above are all human traits.
(3)
Pains as we know it is as a result of sensory neurons in our skin (flesh) that sends the data to the brain and then it responds to the stimuli/stimulus.. ok in this assumed state of existing after death, how would you feel pain? no skin, no brain? not even shape or form? from whence then comes the pain?
(4)Assuming you are right and their is heaven and hell, you make heaven and ur mum makes hell and you are fully aware ur mum is burning for eternity in hell, is that not a torture of its own? can you live with that for eternity?
(5)Who exactly was hell created for Humans/demons? cus from what you christians hype (Those that claim to have gone to hell and back) demons are the ones torturing humans even more than the flames... it leaves me with a question "Was this hell created for demons or humans?..." did this god just create hell after creating humans incase man bleeps up, then gather some more spirit beings keep em there and use em to torture his so loved humans?
(6)
For all the people shouting "repent for hell is real" if you do something cus of a reward or cus u might be punished is that thing really good? or you just did it for ur own selfish interest.
that means without the promise of heaven or threat of hell most of you here will be bad.
But goodness is not about that "Goodness is doing what is right because you know it is right" Be good for goodness sake.
..........
If you are good to others because of the promise of heaven, that shows how little you think of others
If you are good to others because of the threat of hell that shoes how little you think of urself.. Be good cus it is good.
(7)
How did you get to know that heaven and hell are real?
(a) A book told you?
(b)someone told you?
(c) Did you perceive them with ur conscious mind
if (a) and (b) is ur answer then is that real knowledge? ..how sure are you that it is the truth?
if (c) is the case it means you have percieved heaven and hell with your conscious mind just like you do the earth... we have all percieved this earth with our conscious mind and we all know earth is real, we cant argue about that!...But we cant say this for neither heaven or hell cus really none of us have percieved them with our conscious mind.
After all this my conclusion is Be good for goodness sake; Radiate boundless love towards everything that is known, the earth and every creature in it and every human in it regardless of any differences...Then you will learn the true meaning of goodness (morality)
AM NOT HERE FOR ARGUMENT, JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT

Lol ladyX so quick to jump in...Caption this "god sent adam and eve out of the garden of eden so they wont eat the fruit of life and live forever, and then promise he will live forever after he is dead...does that even make sense to u?"

erictoonice:
U're a wise man bro

Thanks brother!!!

gatiano:
If you are a black person, You knew the world was here before you came into it for your personal experience. Yahweh, Allah, Brahma is The same person, A Blackman who is also called Yakub. In whose all the non-black people have their collective unconsciousness. When they die (non-blacks) being good and born-again, they will reside in HIS conscious mind. Since we are in the world of Yahweh, Allah, We also have to worship and pray to HIM.

The level of black people kindness and goodness is what will bring a lot of judgement upon these caucasian people, and as we keep on having such gravious sympathy and closeliness to them, the more we fill ourselves with burden(blacks). This however does not mean hating them or racism.
I can only wonder, what if it was other way round that GOD told them the blacks are the devils, There won't be any blackman alive today. and if he is, The cows, horses and farm animals will be his boss while he is casterated and i leave the rest to your imagination.

Aaaaah Blood of zeus...

Honestly i will say that the many replies we get from the Christians here are utterly disappointing and unintelligent.. .
Have heard many say the white brought education and civilization here, oh that is correct they brought their OWN education and taught us to ignore ours.
I am an igbo and i was suprised when i did many research about my tribe and found high rate of intelligence For intance the ancient igbos had knowledge in music, medicine, biology, geography, astronomy and suprisingly have their own mathematics...
the igbos accurately divided the year into 365 days thousands of years before the julian and gregorian calendar was brougth to us.
the days are divided into 4days in a week (eke, orie, afor and nkwor)
then 7weeks in one moon (month)
then 13months in one year and then a 1day added to it and gives you precisely 365 days...am sure most igbos here dont know this.
Before the missionaries came to africa, the african society was diverse, culturally rich, beautiful, morally stable. we had our own unique mythology and religion, our own gods and ways of worship.
We had unique knowledge and relationship with nature and the world and our religion taught universal goodness.nobody ever thought or said the world will rapture or get destroyed, their deep love for mother nature was unmatched...
Then the white men came; they did many magical things, they can kill you just by pointing a stick at you(Gun), they did many wondrous things that were new and strange to us...Then the inferior feelings set it, we saw our selves as the inferior beings, we started listening to them.
They taught us our gods are demons but the one they brought is the real universal god, they threatened us with hell fire and the world's ending... We blindly believed them, they branded our ways demonic endorsed theirs, We fell for it....I am still wondering how the africa gods which are supposedly the evil and dark ones never threatened anybody with eternal fire or damnation or ever threatening to destroy the whole earth, but the one they brought who they claim to be love and just does that and is proud of it...Please who is fooling who
we blindly abondoned our ways and embraced his, now we are lost in his confusion, our own ways are now strange to us...
When are we going to say enough and take back our lives...
Beautiful african utopia is now in darkness claiming to be in the light..
we are blind, blinded by our own ignorance and vainful vanity...
AM NOT HERE TO ARGUE, JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT...

iamord:
mental slaves! Their treasure is in heaven! That's why their earthly abode is an eyesore. Am surprised at the level of. Stupidity a lot of them showcase up here with confidence..

It baffles me and pains me why people tend to love the unknown and ignore the known. . . Heaven is unknown and so is hell; they all believe cus someone said or an ancient book said. . . Only earth is real out of all this, earth is the only reality that is truer than true. .it saddens me when people ignore the known (earth) even expecting it to get raptured or destroyed(christians), some even blowing it up themselves (muslims) because they put their hopes in the unknow (heaven) and fear their own myth (hell)...
My only concern is the well being of this earth and these religious beliefs is a whole big threat to mother earth...
People should learn to love and preserve the known
look upon the earth and everything in it with love and care
Earth is beautiful
Earth is wonderful
Humanity is wonderfully beautiful
They do not deserve to be raptured or destroyed
neither will they be
Let ua together rebuild this world that our children may share in the days of peace...

gatiano:
I always stand to be corrected, i would accept my mistakes when and if i'm wrong. But you would have to actually prove me wrong first, right? always feel free to do so at any given time. Question me, challenge me with proof and most importantly with maturity, if and when i'm not sure, i'll gladly and freely declare that i don't have the answers yet. I do not mean the deviate the tread, We can't simply talk about the supernatural without touching The Creator, except we are addicted to spookism.

christians say yahweh created the world, muslims say allah did it, the greeks say zeus did it, Hindus say vishnu did, you say blacks did and so many millions of others attribute it to different and various gods and causes...I as a humanist just say "I dont know" the world was here before i opened my eyes.

cloudyskyglind:
yes because we believe in the bible as the Word of God and not attempts by those who hate the faith. I'm really sure you believed that when you read it, of course that's because it's condemning Christianity. You don't care how true and valid it is. It's typical of your type so we ain't surprise

No it is pure history...Facts remain so whether you believe it or not.
So christianity's own history is condemnation unto it?...Now thats not a good historical activity indeed... why dont you research more about christianity and how it all came to be on ur own... and also how the emperor constantine and other church fathers compiled the bible at the council of nicea!!

iamord:
Excerpt from : no meek messiah.
It is 391 CE now as Roman Emperor
Theodosius elevates Jesus (posthumously)
to divinity, declaring Christianity the only
"legitimate" religion of the world, under
penalty of death. The ancient myth is
rendered law. This decision by Theodosius is
possibly the worst ever made in human
history: what followed were century after
century of torture and murder in the name
of this false, faked, folkloric "prophesied
savior" of fictional virgin mother. Within a
year after the decree by Theodosius, crazed
Christian monks of Nitria destroy the
majestic Alexandrian Library largely
because philosophy and science are taught
there—not the Bible. In Alexandria these
are times of the highest of intellectual
pursuits, all quashed by superstitious and
ignorant Christians of the most godly and
murderous variety: they had the "Holy
Bible" on their side.
Emperor Theodosius I could have had no
idea how much harm this blunder would
cause humanity over the centuries that
followed. Christianity was made the only
legal cult of the empire, and for the next
1500 years, good Christians would murder
all non-Christians they could find by the
tens of millions.

Christians dont research or need this part...90% of em are very ignorant of it and are quite contented ignoring it so as to keep their fate...
If anybody researchs the history of the jewish god and of the christian faith i doubt if any will still believe any of that shiii...

ooh great...Gatiano just started again with his black race gods stuff again...