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Christianity Etc › Re: Is God A God Of Only The Jews by johnydon22(m): 8:54pm On Jan 03, 2015
[b]Early worship of Yahweh likely originated in southern Canaan during the
Late Bronze Age . [18] :74–87 It is probable that Yahu or Yahweh was
worshipped in southern Canaan ( Edom , Moab, Midian ) from the 14th
century BC, and that this cult was transmitted northwards due to the
Kenites . This "Kenite hypothesis" was originally suggested by Cornelius
Tiele in 1872 and remains the standard view among modern scholars. [19]
In its classical form suggested by Tiele, the "Kenite hypothesis" assumes
that Moses was a historical Midianite who brought the cult of Yahweh
north to Israel. This idea is based on an old tradition (recorded in Judges
1:16, 4:11) that Moses' father-in-law was a Midianite priest of Yahweh, as
it were preserving a memory of the Midianite origin of the god. According
to Exodus 2, however, Moses was not a Midianite himself, but a Hebrew
from the tribe of Levi. While the role of the Kenites in the transmission of
the cult is widely accepted, the historical role of Moses finds less support
in modern scholarship.
The "Kenite hypothesis" supposes that the Hebrews adopted the cult of
Yahweh from the Midianites via the Kenites. This view, first proposed by F.
W. Ghillany , afterward independently by Cornelis Petrus Tiele (1872), and
more fully by Stade , has been more completely worked out by Karl Budde ;
it is accepted by H. Guthe, Gerrit Wildeboer, H. P. Smith , and G. A. Barton.
[20]
Egyptian
The earliest putative reference to Yahweh in the historical record occurs in
a list of Bedouin tribes of the Transjordan made by Amenhotep III (c. 1391
– 1353 BC) in the temple of Amon at Soleb . Therein, the name Yhw is
included in a passage referencing "the land of Š3sw-yhw," or "the land of
Shasu-y/iw" [21] The place name appears to be associated with Asiatic
nomads in the 14th to 13th centuries BC. In 1979, Michael Astour
suggested that the hieroglyphic rendering of Yhw corresponded very well
with what would be expected if the term signified Yahweh. [22] A later
mention from the era of Ramesses II (c. 1279 BC – 1213 BC) associates
Yhw with Mount Seir . From this, it is generally supposed that this Yhw
refers to a place in the area of Moab and Edom. [23] Whether the god was
named after the place, or the place named after the god, is undecided. [24]
Donald B. Redford[25] thinks it reasonable to conclude that the demonym
'Israel' recorded on the Merneptah Stele (1208 BC) refers to a Shasu
enclave, and that, since later Biblical tradition portrays Yahweh "coming
forth from Se'ir "[26] the Shasu, originally from Moab and northern Edom ,
went on to form one major element in the amalgam that was to constitute
the "Israel" which later established the Kingdom of Israel . Rainey has a
similar view in his analysis of the el-Amarna letters . [27]
Semitic
The oldest West Semitic attestation of the name is the inscription of the
victory stela erected by Mesha, king of Moab, in the 9th century BC. In this
inscription, Yahweh is not presented as a Moabite deity, but as the
national god of Israelite people. Mesha rather records how he defeated
Israel, and plundered the temple of Yahweh, presenting the spoils to his
own god, Chemosh . This is an alternate vision of the events described in 2
Kings 3.
The name Yahweh does not occur in Canaanite texts and inscriptions. [28]
The only North-West Semitic evidence that can plausibly be linked to the
Hebrew name 'Yahweh' are some male Amorite names with syllables -
yaffwi or -yawi , which may resemble the -jah in Hebrew names such as
Abijah. Friedrich Delitzsch Babel and the Bible (1903) was the first to
make the proposal that Amorite names with -yawi indicated the existence
of an Amorite Yawhi deity equivalent to Hebrew Yahweh. This was
supported by Huffmon (1965). [29] However modern scholars such as
Toorn (1996) note that such names do not attest to the existence of
worship of a Yaffwi . [30] Yahweh or Yahu appears in many Hebrew Bible
theophoric names, including Elijah itself, which translates to "my god ( el )
is Yahu", besides other names such as Isaiah ( Yesha'yahu "Yahu saved"wink,
Jesus ( Yeshua "Yahweh's Salvation"wink, Ahaz ( Yahu-haz "Yahu held"wink, and
others found in the early Jewish Elephantine papyri .
Yw in the Baal Cycle
Main article: Baal cycle
More recently, the damaged Ugaritic cuneiform text KTU 1.1:IV:14-15 is
also included in the discussion:[31]
From KTU II:IV:13-14
tgr.il.bnh.tr [ ] wyn.lt[p]n il dp[id...] [32] [J yp 'r] Sm bny yw 'ilt
My son [shall not be called] by the name of Yw , o goddess, [Jfc ym
smh (?)] [but Ym shall be his name!]
wp'r $m ym
So he proclaimed the name of Yammu.
[rbt 'atrt (?)] t'nyn
[Lady Athiratu (?)] answered,
lzntn ['at np'rt (?)]
"For our maintenance [you are the one who has been proclaimed (?)]
[33]
Many scholars [ who? ] consider yw a reference to Yahweh. Others [who? ]
consider that yw is unlikely to have be derived from yhw in the second
millennium. However the Ugaritic text is read, the verbal play on the
similarity between yw and ym (the sea-god Yam ) is evident. [34]
Alternative theories
Charles Tilstone Beke originally believed Mount Sinai to be a volcano but
gave up this idea when he saw a mountain he thought to be Mount Sinai
and wrote that "from its manifest physical character, it appears that my
favourite hypothesis that Mount Sinai was a volcano must be abandoned
as untenable." [35] Jacob Dunn suggested in "A God of Volcanoes: Did
Yahwism Take Root in Volcanic Ashes?" that the holy mountain of the
Abrahamic god was originally a volcano in Saudi Arabia. [36]
Adoption as national god of Israel
Scholars agree that the archaeological evidence suggests that the
Israelites arose peacefully and internally in the highlands of Canaan.
[18] :31 In the words of archaeologist William Dever, "most of those who
came to call themselves Israelites ... were or had been indigenous
Canaanites." [37] What distinguished Israel from other emerging Iron Age
Canaanite societies was the belief in Yahweh as the national god, rather
than, for example, Chemosh , the god of Moab, or Milcom , the god of the
Ammonites. [4] :156 This would require that the Transjordanian Yahweh
worshipers not be identified with Israelites, but perhaps with Edomite
tribes who introduced Yahweh to Israel. One longstanding hypothesis is
that Yahweh originated as a warrior-god in the region of Edom and Midian,
south of Judah, and was introduced into the northern and central
highlands by southern tribes such as the Kenites; Karel van der Toorn has
suggested that his rise to prominence in Israel was due to the influence of
Saul, Israel's first king, who was of Edomite background. [38] :248
Yahweh was eventually hypostatized with El. Several pieces of evidence
have led scholars to the conclusion that El was the original "God of
Israel"—for example, the word "Israel" is based on the name of El rather
than on that of Yahweh. [10] :32 Names of the oldest characters in the
Torah further show reverence towards El without similar displays towards
Yahweh. Most importantly, Yahweh reveals to Moses that though he was
not known previously as El, he has, in fact, been El all along. [39]
El was the head of the Canaanite pantheon, with Asherah as his consort
and Baal and other deities making up the pantheon.[10] :33 With his rise,
Asherah became Yahweh's consort, [40] and Yahweh and Baal at first co-
existed and later competed within the popular religion. [/b]
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God A God Of Only The Jews by johnydon22(m): 8:39pm On Jan 03, 2015
let us ask wikipedia grin ... [b] Yahweh ( / ˈ jɑːhw eɪ/ , or often / ˈ jɑːw eɪ/ in English; Hebrew : יהוה ), was the
national god of the Iron Age kingdoms of Israel and Judah . The name may
have originated as an epithet of the god El, head of the Bronze Age
Canaanite pantheon ("El who is present, who makes himself manifest"wink,
[1] :94–95 and appears to have been unique to Israel and Judah, [2] :184
although Yahweh may have been worshiped south of the Dead Sea at
least three centuries before the emergence of Israel (the Kenite
hypothesis). The earliest reference to a deity called "Yahweh" appears in
Egyptian texts of the 13th century BC that place him among the Shasu-
Bedu of southern Transjordan .[3]
In the oldest biblical literature (12th–11th centuries BC), Yahweh is a
typical ancient Near Eastern "divine warrior" who leads the heavenly army
against Israel's enemies; he and Israel are bound by a covenant under
which Yahweh will protect Israel and, in turn, Israel will not worship other
gods. [4] :158–159 At a later period, Yahweh functioned as the dynastic
cult (the god of the royal house) [5] :69–70 with the royal courts promoting
him as the supreme god over all others in the pantheon (notably Baal , El,
and Asherah (who is thought by some scholars to have been his
consort)). [6][7] :917 Over time, Yahwism became increasingly intolerant of
rivals, and the royal court and temple promoted Yahweh as the god of the
entire cosmos, possessing all the positive qualities previously attributed to
the other gods and goddesses. [5] :69–70 [7] :917 With the work of Second
Isaiah (the theoretical author of the second part of the Book of Isaiah )
towards the end of the Babylonian exile (6th century BC), the very
existence of foreign gods was denied, and Yahweh was proclaimed as the
creator of the cosmos and the true god of all the world. [7] :917
By early post-biblical times, the name of Yahweh had ceased to be
pronounced. In modern Judaism, it is replaced with the word Adonai,
meaning Lord, and is understood to be God's proper name and to denote
his mercy. [8] Many Christian Bibles follow the Jewish custom and replace
it with "the LORD". [/b]

Read on en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Wrote The New Testament ? by johnydon22(m): 8:16pm On Jan 03, 2015
Image123:
@OP,
God of course, who else.
whathuh shocked
Christianity Etc › Re: Great Bible Contradictions by johnydon22(m): 2:32pm On Jan 03, 2015
Hiswordxray:
There is no union between God and Satan. They are two opposite forces.
You are on the wrong path my Friend. The path that lead to Hell. Let me help you.
hahahahahahaha dis guy again wif his help... i don die ooo..
anytime i see ur comment eeehn laf go nearly wound me... keep em coming bro... grin cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Wrote The New Testament ? by johnydon22(m): 2:21pm On Jan 03, 2015
PastorAIO:
This elevation of the bible to the point that it is almost the God that some people worship is a dangerous blow against the spiritual development of many people.

It took me quite a while to realise that this was the problem and the scale of it.
Good Start!!! grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Wrote The New Testament ? by johnydon22(m): 9:58am On Jan 03, 2015
Joshthefirst:
Nonsense. They have archaeological and historical evidences. Especially those of the new testament.

You are ill-informed.
hahahahahaha i smell sentimental attachments... grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Wrote The New Testament ? by johnydon22(m): 7:05am On Jan 03, 2015
Joshthefirst:
have you checked out the origin and history? You'd be very amazed if you really checked it out. I mean archaeological facts about the various manuscripts and others, not pathetic tales people write online for criticism and hatred.
lmao speaking of archeological facts u will be bewildered when u find out 80% of the bible stories are untrue and jewish myths...hehehehehe
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Wrote The New Testament ? by johnydon22(m): 6:58pm On Jan 02, 2015
Obadiah77:
More.

Who wrote the first five books of the old testament?

Who wrote the book of joshua?

Who wrote the book of samuel?

more still coming.
Hehehehehehehe Holy Spirit!!!
or
Question for the jews jaree!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: What Made Satan To Rebel Against God. by johnydon22(m): 6:53pm On Jan 02, 2015
The jews worshipped yahweh as their tribal god... he was exclusive to them only and loved and favoured them more than others. this everybody knows... christianity borrowed and adopted this jewish god and ascribed a son to him cus jesus was from a judaic descent so a jew. . . then they made yahweh a universal god and removed all the attributes ascribed to him by the original worshippers being the jews and added theirs... who is even fooling who herehuh
Christianity Etc › Re: 9 Months to the Rapture of the Sons of God (Rev. 12:5)! by johnydon22(m): 2:16pm On Jan 01, 2015
godsgift233:
Do you know the story of Elisha and
the bears? Don’t feel bad if not: it’s
one of those Bible stories most
Christians would prefer to gloss
over. In The God Delusion , *Richard
Dawkins uses it as evidence that
the Bible is barbaric*

Christians
who don’t believe the Bible is
inerrant are quick to file it under
Not Inspired. Even those who do
think it’s the Word of God
often describe it as ‘difficult’. In
case your memory needs refreshing,
here it is :

23 From there Elisha went up to
Bethel. As he was walking along the
road, some boys came out of the
town and jeered at him. “Get out of
here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of
here, baldy!” 24 He turned around,
looked at them and called down a
curse on them in the name of
the Lord. Then two bears came out
of the woods and mauled forty-two
of the boys.

is dix a story u wud want ur child to hear??
hahahaahahahaha its not only barbaric but full of lies... imagine 42young boys with extra teenage energies and young blood against 2bears only... what were the boys doing when the bears first pounced on the first 2boys... waiting for their turnhuh hahahahahaha whoever believes this crap is bleeping mad. . . 2bears mauled 42boys... nice story tell me more grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by johnydon22(m): 11:50am On Jan 01, 2015
Elkewwty:
This is the full histrory of this bloodsucjer schizophrenic yahweh.



furthermore


@Truthman2012.

Your god was not worshipped bacause he created anybody rather because he he led insraelit to victory at war and he was worshipped in return.


http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

Can you now see how your god was branded to god of the universe?.

Let me guess your next lie, you will tell us yahweh is not your god that jesus is your god?
yeah i av read about yahweh in wikipedia... el is the canaanite supreme deity said to be the father of yahweh and other gods and the consort of asherah...
Christianity Etc › Re: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by johnydon22(m): 11:36am On Jan 01, 2015
truthman2012:
Spiriual ignorance. How did the first man come to be and the first woman? Evolution?

Atheists and muslims have a meeting point, they are under the same Deity. Satan would do any to blindfold atheists to see God. The same Satan who blindfold muslims to see the true God.
hahahahahahahahahahaha am in trouble o... christians self... you have forgotten that this ur satan is another thiest myth, does not exist... lmao... dis guy wan use laf wound me cheesy cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by johnydon22(m): 11:24am On Jan 01, 2015
truthman2012:
Silly to you because of the type of spirit in you. We can't reason the same way. God's way is not man's way and you don't have His Spirit.

Who created you?
Her mother gave birth to her...simple!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by johnydon22(m): 11:15am On Jan 01, 2015
Elkewwty:
Pathetic fallacy
he finds it more convenient to deny the fact that zeus, allah, jupiter, baal, dagon... all these gods all claim to have created humans... he dismisses them and believes that yahweh the jewish deity did it... smh
Christianity Etc › Re: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by johnydon22(m): 11:12am On Jan 01, 2015
truthman2012:
If it is not from God it is not of God. If God accepts human sacrifice, He deserves it as the Creator. Idols (evil spirits) who are not the Creators have no right to take life they cannot create. You don't take what does not belong to you.
seriously with this ur type of evil mind, i am so speechless. . . i cant find any word to reply u...
Christianity Etc › Re: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by johnydon22(m): 10:41am On Jan 01, 2015
malvisguy212:
1.the girl was not a baby.
2.it was not God that ask for the sacrifice, the man make a vow.God ask Abraham to sacrifice Isaac, but it was a test, that was the first time God ask for human sacrifice,moreover it was a test.
SMH
Christianity Etc › Re: When Will People Stop Believing This End Time Shii by johnydon22(op): 10:30am On Jan 01, 2015
malvisguy212:
you open a thread that you can't defend the lie against God. May God forgive you.
may humanity forgive you
Christianity Etc › Re: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by johnydon22(m): 10:30am On Jan 01, 2015
truthman2012:
What about the other questions?

In God's judgement, He who knows all things, women, children and babies are not exempted because He knows what they will become in the future. The young of a snake is a snake.
habaaaaa mehn you guys av a mind too evil that i find it hard to.fathom..please we are done... carry on with ur delusion and all that
Christianity Etc › Re: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by johnydon22(m): 10:23am On Jan 01, 2015
malvisguy212:
God did not ask him to sacrifice his daughter to Him, he make a vow , and he must fulfilled it, in those days, the Jew are afraid to break vow.

The reat of your post has been answer, start from page one of this thread. Thank you.
exaclty my point... its the same child sacrifice you accuse the other nations of practising... gerit?
Christianity Etc › Re: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by johnydon22(m): 10:22am On Jan 01, 2015
truthman2012:
Let's see your source where you got the allegations. There could be more to it.
lmao... its the bible not ur holybook? go and read that shii and find another way to twist the obvious and justify barbarism...
Christianity Etc › Re: When Will People Stop Believing This End Time Shii by johnydon22(op): 10:18am On Jan 01, 2015
malvisguy212:
Jesus say know that after more than 2000 years he will come back, yet he told his disciples that they will not test death, does this sound logical to you? What was the message Jesus is trying to preach? Even Abraham our ancestor died, yet Jesus say his disciples will not test death, I REPEAT ,THE SAINTS ARE NOT DEAD BUT ARE SPIRITUALLY SLEEPING. Thank you for your time.
mehn am tired.... i wan drink orijin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by johnydon22(m): 10:17am On Jan 01, 2015
truthman2012:
God punished and will punish anyone or people who commit wicked acts like those in the OT. See https://www.nairaland.com/2032869/did-god-realy-killed-innocent.

Even the constitution of every nation of the world forbids anybody from committing wicked act and stipulates death penalty in some cases. Atheist do not see anything wrong with that but when it comes to God, they, because of the kind of spirit dwelling inside them will blame God.

Muslims kill non-muslims not because they commit wicked act but for refusal to convert to islam, yet they say their is no compulsion in religion. Is that justifiable to you?

By islamic operations, you do not deserve to live as an atheist. How will you feel if muslims chop off you neck for not being a muslim?

You just try to argue for argument sake. You have no point.
yeah every nation in the world stipulates death penalty for women and children and innocent babies... yes continue!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by johnydon22(m): 10:15am On Jan 01, 2015
malvisguy212:
very good,little by little you are exposing there evil deed. How are this people worshipping there idols? Sacrificing babies to there gods, is this what you called good ?
didnt jesophath sacrifice his daughter to yahweh in the bible?... habaaa nawa oo.. owk they were doing child sacrifice and the isrealites came and still killed the children by dashing them against rocks, the same innocent babies.habaaa. we all know the number of babies and children that must av been killed during that massacre will be far greater than the ones you claim they must av allegly sacrificed to their god.
not even to talk of the pregnant women ripped open with the sword... what is this... what type of human is still defending and justifying this... seriously no offence but ur heart is evil for trying to justify this...embarassed
Christianity Etc › Re: When Will People Stop Believing This End Time Shii by johnydon22(op): 9:16am On Jan 01, 2015
malvisguy212:
the saint's are not spiritually dead, but they are sleeping.
◄ Matthew 27:52 ►
The tombs were opened, and many
bodies of the saints who had fallen
asleep were raised;

The dead saint's will be the first to meet the lord and we who are alive will joint them.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
For the Lord himself will come down
from heaven, with a loud command, with
the voice of the archangel and with the
trumpet call of God, and the dead in
Christ will rise first.17.After that, we who are still alive and are
left will be caught up together with them
in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.
And so we will be with the Lord forever.

The book of Hebrew teaches us how Christ makes it happen.
Hebrew 2:9.
But we do see Jesus, who was made
lower than the angels for a little while,
now crowned with glory and honor
because he suffered death, so that by
the grace of God he might taste death for
everyone.

Christ has already test death for those who believe in him.


You claimed to be Christian once in your life but you dint know all this? It's a shame. You know what hausa man called kristoche na baki? That the type of Christian you are before.
congrats for trying to twist it as u guys usually does... the verse was clear "Jesus meant they will not taste death until he comes back which means some of em will still be alive then...hahahahahahhaha oya now that all of them are long dead and dust from their bones forgotten, 2000 years later you say it means spiritual death... hahahahahahaha you guys are just too funny... weldone my guy grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by johnydon22(m): 8:51am On Jan 01, 2015
malvisguy212:
if God should send brimstone and fire to wipe out boko haram, 30 years later when you read how it happen on the web, you will called God a wicked God caused he wipe out this wicked boko haram generation, right?

You say God killed innocent people, why dint you give us the whole details how it happened? Corrupted minded atheist.
Must u insult to make ur point?.... their is nothing u say that can justify it. EVIL is EVIL no matter how u paint it... the order was simple "the jews to wipe out every city that worships a different god... seriously my bros by trying to justify this evil i find it hard to argue with you cus it sadens my heart that a human being will believe and justify such evil, cruelty and wickedness... Am sorry but i am done with you dear!!! peace
Christianity Etc › Re: When Will People Stop Believing This End Time Shii by johnydon22(op): 8:19am On Jan 01, 2015
hahahahaha the way christians view and avoid this thread is priceless grin grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by johnydon22(m): 8:17am On Jan 01, 2015
malvisguy212:
I believe the op answer all your question.

Have you read about darwin and the silent genocide? They silently reduce the population of the poor and marrying between family just to protect the family wealth. https://www.intellihub.com/darwinism-eugenics-and-the-silent-genocide/
what dah heck does darwin genocide have to do with this op... as far as am concern all of them are wrong... no matter the name and pattern it comes in... whether darwin silent genocide, allah genocide, yahweh genocide or christian genocide... they are all evil and inhumane and can never be justified by anybody... simple

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