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Hiswordxray:
I have done research but not in a partial way like what you and frosbel did and yet I am still standing strong in faith.
May be it is you people that should go and do deeper research.

esere826:
Dude there are some aspects of the bible that even the most scientific of persons way smarter than you would consider as credible.
For example, the Israelites immigrating from Egypt or being taken captive
Others they would dismiss as myth for example Moses stretching out his staff to the sea and parting it

So why would you call everything a myth?
Does that come across as sound reasoning even to the most unbelieving

esere826:
Dude there are some aspects of the bible that even the most scientific of persons way smarter than you would consider as credible.
For example, the Israelites immigrating from Egypt or being taken captive
Others they would dismiss as myth for example Moses stretching out his staff to the sea and parting it

So why would you call everything a myth?
Does that come across as sound reasoning even to the most unbelieving

esere826:
Dude there are some aspects of the bible that even the most scientific of persons way smarter than you would consider as credible.
For example, the Israelites immigrating from Egypt or being taken captive
Others they would dismiss as myth for example Moses stretching out his staff to the sea and parting it

So why would you call everything a myth?
Does that come across as sound reasoning even to the most unbelieving

esere826:
@ frosbel

And finally by brethren

Its because of this my belief that I am unperturbed by our modern day men of God. both the good and bad
If the bible is written by imperfect men but is God breathed
I believe that despite some of the shenanigans and inconsistencies of our MOG's as long as they are God-breathed on
they do serve at least some useful purpose for God

shdemidemi:
If they had told you the moon, the sun and the stars can all stand independent of any man, I am sure your logical brain will also call that some form of mythology or folklore. But as God will have it you can see it for yourself and you can't explain those things and so many other things that have been divinely put together supernaturally.

I am too sure you like frosbel are only looking for excuses not to believe even when there are countless reasons to believe the bible and God.

frosbel:
No, absolute not.

But, there are inconsistencies and plain fabrications in the virgin birth story which by the way was not mentioned by any of the apostles including Paul in any of their letters/writeups/epistles.

Remember Matthew, Mark , Luke and John were not written by Matthew, Mark , Luke and John. If you doubt me just Google it.

Still, we are left with Matthew referencing a totally unrelated prophecy in Isaiah 7:14 and 2 gospel accounts with heaps of contradictions especially on the two different genealogy accounts in Matthew and Luke.

I asked a few simple questions :

1. Where did Jesus get his Y Chromosome from ( Does God have gender )
2. Who is his father - God the Father or God the Spirit
3. Why did his parents and siblings consider him an ordinary bloke ?

shdemidemi:
My friend, there is nothing wrong with trying to determine truth. The issue here is where you go to find such TRUTH. Whether you like it or not your brain can never comprehend the full manifestation of God's nature and His divinity.

If you have gone to scriptures to find truth you might come across how depraved what you call your brain is... It will only lead you away from submission to God and a lofty evaluation of yourself and your capability to be as god, determining your own right and wrong.

Paul says Romans 12:2

2 Do not be conformed to this present world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may test and approve what is the will of God—what is good and well-pleasing and perfect.

Some rendition have it that we should not copy or think as the world think but be transformed in our thinking in conformity with the word of God.

My friend you are not only copying the worldly way of thinking, you are going one step further to discredit the wisdom of God in the circumvention of nature to bring about Christ the Lord of all and Messiah.




Don't be so assuming and belligerent at the same time bro. You are the one who is on a wild goose chase of some form of truth. I know who the truth is and I know where to go if I ever need anything that pertains to the truth.



My friend, it isn't just that. It juxtapose the sort of wisdom you seek by invoking your brain with that which come by God. It describes your sort of discoveries as moronic and outright foolishness. It also describes it as the kind of wisdom that is invariably reserved for those who are heading for the full wrath of God.

MrPresident1:
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JMAN05:
op

Male and female distinctions are only found here on earth, not in heaven.

When the saints are raised to a heavenly life, there will never be distinctions in gender. Neither male nor female. Gal 3:28

bassette:
God is real...I make bold to declare it..thanks OP for sharing...thank you Jesus you reign foreva!!!

gatiano:
i see, that is why people call me sometimes racist, when i am absolutely not. it is not about skin colour, the arabs are considered cousins to the black people, and can also be considered also cousins to the caucasians. there are fairer skinned arabs, there are darker skinned arabs and there are also black arab. The fairer skin and the darker skin arabs are not caucasians, just like the indians (both western and eastern), like the meztizos. These are people in actual fact we call mulattoes or half caste. The child of one black parent and a caucasian is a black child, not atall a halfcaste.
it takes a single generation for white to go black, it will take 7 generations for black to go white.
the meztizos for example, in the 15th and the 16th centuries in latin americas, the whiteman will go into the black woman by way of force, that child will be married into full white person or a child like him/herself (child of white and black parent), The blackman was not allowed to marry or go into white or mulatto or half white /half black person.
Thus Moses was an halfcaste, Jesus was an halfcaste, Abraham most definitely was a blackman(pure), His wife was a halfcaste.

The question of the genetics (gene-sis) of this world can seem so vast, but it can be brought to understanding where everybody came from. The black people never cared about what anybody's skin colour was, it was the whiteman that started the classifications and labelling, hated and troubled all, causing bloodshed and murder.

Greyworld:
Broda am neither a pastor nor a strong christian, I can't evn rememba d last tym I was in church but ova all dez years I ve learnt not 2 doubt d existence of God. My being alive 2day is sometin outta d ordinary.......... Its a Miracle


And if I av heard him......... I ll rada say yes.

Maquiptarepzy:
just confused.

gatiano:
He was surely not caucasian with blue eye and blond or brunette hair. Jesus was from the middle east. 2000 years ago, there were alot of jet black people in the region (where did President Goodluck Jonathan got that cap he is wearing from? where did the ijaws get that cap they wear? The whiteman gave it to them?), like i said, Jesus was from the mid-east, how come he has a blond hair and blue eye?

GooseBaba:
An inferior mind would always showcase itself. Simple question he starts ranting.

Like I said before, for an African to believe in the bible /quran. They have to self loathe with a heavy dose of ignorance . They distort their history in order to accommodate their biblical convictions.

He does not know that Yahweh is a pagan god. He Received burnt sacrifice like other gods, hence his jealousy of other gods.

Abeg leave the guy... One that is obviously scared of his shadow hence the reason he cannot answer a simple question.

Hiswordxray:
Which do you prefer a second story or you witnessing it yourself?
Just bring him to me.

Hiswordxray:
Jesus is already here and he is in me. Bring amadioha to me let me use him to clean my ass. I don't need to waste my time fight with him becuase he his already defeated.

Hiswordxray:
Bring him to me first and you would see a life example.

Hiswordxray:
Because with the name of Jesus people have kick them around like a dog and even use them to clean their dirty ass.

Hiswordxray:
Amadioha had been humiliated by Jesus several times... do you believe this?

Hiswordxray:
I didn't say they do not exist but why should I waste my life worshiping inferior gods when the almighty God had given me access to him through Jesus.

Hiswordxray:
I didn't say they do not exist but why should I waste my life worshiping inferior gods when the almighty God had given me access to him through Jesus.

Hiswordxray:
This is the same idealogy that had be causes crisis and war yet people still promote sure idealogy. When will the world learn.
"having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace," (Eph 2:15).
God had brought all as one tribe in Jesus and this tribe is call a new creature. The tribe originated from heaven as God gave birth to them being their true father. This new tribe has no origin from earth but are an alien who has come on earth to shine the light of God. They are peace makers while your racist idealogy has always cause crisis and will always cause crisis.

gatiano:
How much do you really know about Jesus? In the Book of Revelation 12:9, Jesus says that Satan would deceive the whole world. In another chapter he says that Satan would deceive every nation, tribe and tongue. With that being the case, we have to ask the question, “Did Satan deceive the whole world about Jesus as well?” I believe Satan did. Let’s think about it. Why would Satan deceive the world about everything except the man that the scriptures say will be born to destroy Satan himself? The scene in the Book of Revelations 12:3, the Dragon (Satan) is described as being red. Minister Farrakhan said the red symbolizes Satan’s anger at the pending birth of he who would end his rule. Satan attempts to kill the child as well as the mother. This is further evidence to show that it is highly unlikely that Satan would not try to alter peoples understanding of Jesus.

In my experience of sharing what I have learned about the true history of Jesus with others, I have learned that it is very hard for people to acknowledge that their understanding of Jesus is more of a result of Satan’s deception, rather than from God. I believe the same will be true for many who read this article. For those who still think that they have a correct understanding of Jesus, let’s see.

First, close your eyes and clear your mind and envision Jesus standing in front of you reaching out his hands toward you. What do you see? There is a great possibility if we are honest that you see a Caucasian man that resembles the many false images of Jesus we have seen so often. That image is far from the true image of Jesus, which is a Black man. Now some of you will say it does not matter what color he is and etc. I agree it shouldn’t matter what his color is. However, when there are billions of people who say they await his return, the stakes are too high to have a false image of him. Plus he (Jesus) is quoted as saying, “The truth shall set you free.” If we still believe in and have a false image of Jesus in our minds, then that means we are not as free as we may think/feel and someone is holding our minds in captivity. Who is that person?

Second question, do you believe that Jesus and God are the same person (the Holy Trinity)? NOWHERE in the Bible can we find words spoken by Jesus and his disciples, which are authentic, that support such a belief. Jesus and those who were disciples clearly understood that Jesus and God were two different people. If they did, why don’t we? Go and read chapter 5 of the Book of Revelations when Jesus was taken into a heavenly assembly where God lived. Who was the man sitting on the throne and who was the lamb? The man on the throne was God and the lamb was Jesus. They were two different beings. If Jesus never said he was God, who is responsible for so many people having this incorrect view of him? Satan again.

Third question, what date was Jesus born on? If you say the 25th of December, you are incorrect. At the touch of a button on the internet we can find out that this is a lie that is not supported by historical nor biblical evidence. Who taught you that he was born on the 25th of December? The answer is Satan again.

Last question, do you believe that Jesus was born of a virgin and had no biological father? That is also a lie that has been taught about Jesus. Go and study the promises that God made to David and Solomon. Have you ever wondered why Jesus was referred to as the Son of David? The reason he was is because God promised David (2 Sam. 7:12-17, Luke 1:32-33) and Solomon (2 Chronicles 6:14-17 and 2 Chronicles 7:16-17) that one of their descendants would rule over the House of Israel and His Kingdom. That descendant is Jesus. Jesus is related to David and Solomon through Joseph his father (Matt. 1:16 and Rom. 1:3-4). I know that is a shocking statement that collides with everything that you have been taught. Go and read the Gospel of Luke when Mary tells Jesus after he was found by them that, “…me and your father have been looking for you (Luke 2:48).” The father she was speaking about was Joseph. The word in Greek that was translated into English in that Gospel is a word that means biological father. If anyone knew who his father was beside God, it was Mary. If that is not enough, go and read the last chapter of Revelations 22:16 where Jesus himself says that he is the “offspring of David”. Define the word offspring. The words of Jesus further validates the genealogy in the New Testament (Matt.1:1) and the promise made to David and Solomon by God which God vowed not to break (Psalms 89:34-37 &132:11). So if you think that his mother was made pregnant by a spirit, when scriptures show otherwise, I ask again, who taught you that? Satan once again.


It snows in Palestine, so you know the Shepards was not outside on December 25th, some 2,000 years ago feeding their sheep and goats in the fields. Mathematically there was a CONJUNCTION OF THE PLANETS WITH THE HUGE PLANET JUPITER ON SEPTEMBER 9th, 2,000 YEARS AGO. So the Supreme Wisdom of Allah makes more mathematical sense that Jesus was born between the first and second week of September, and not on December 25th, (so-called Christmas).

There is one of your thread, where you asked if Jesus was really from the line of David, Yes He was through Joseph his biological Father.

frosbel:
It's a allegorical statement

Hiswordxray:
The many false pastors, doctrine and sect has littles infect on God's true people but the bible is only one and all the people of God would come to depend on it. Apart from that we have the Spirit of God which is the spirit of truth. And this Spirit of truth agrees with words written in the bible. And can easily tell if a pastor or doctrine is false by the Spirit that dwells in me. If the bible is filled with error not just me but also every child of God will recognize this error and rise in protest. But it seems like only frob is divinely ordain to spot this error- this either means frob is the only true child of God since the first century (which is one big lie) or frob is making a big mistake (which is more acceptable).
The jewish tradition was given to them by God and the bibles says those ceremonies where a symbol of things to come. So which is better- a cuture that symbolizes what we are now enjoying and in which we can learn a lot from Or a culture of a people who were seperated from God.
Use your brain and stop behaving like a racist. God do not care about race he only care about his eternal plan.

CAPTIVATOR:
REASON 3: " At this the serpent told the woman: 'You certainly will not die"Gen 3:4 !!

"God cant die" is a statement sayin God cant cease to exist ! But the Devil's statement shows that Adam&Eve wont die .... An offer to be like God ! What a trick by the devil .

Actually most people still belive this devil's imortality lie .... Such ones will even tell you " of course, Adam&Eve are still ALIVE in heaven enjoying" ! What a crock , so the guy called devil introduced mankind to heavely bliss , !!! Adam and Eve are still alive since they are immortal , oh! The devil was right aftrall ..... At this point : ask urself ..Can the Devil say truth ?? The devil anchor mankind to blessings??!!! Its time we start thinkin&stop followin the Devil in spreadin his immortality lies ! .

Adam simply " return to the ground" Gen 3:19 !!! ... Its not funny dat religion is actually spreadin a statement by the Devil. " Ye shall surely not die" !!! Dat statement of immortality Is a devil trick

lastmessenger:
the whole bible does not teach christianity. some are more of judiasm while others are historical events that are so barbaric which come like you uses to accuse us as christians