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sonmvayina:
You are not following what God said..
You are following what Christianity is saying.

Christianity is a mockery against God...

I took everything from the word of God.. the Bible.

sonmvayina:
You did not answer my query?
Why would God send his spirit to burn in an everlasting fire? Explain to me how it makes sense to you?
When the Bible speaks of salvation it is only from physical danger. David wrote those psalms because Saul was after him.at death, God's spirit returns to him and the body returns to the earth...

Why would God send his spirit to "hell"?

So when God spoke about this, you call him a liar??

Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: 9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.


Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.


Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

sonmvayina:
What about Jesus??

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

From the verses above, we see that Jesus is both God and Man.

Making him the express connection between God and Man, after the devil stole it through sin

sonmvayina:
But God warned every one not to have "any other God before him" meaning no intermediary or middle man...and he also forbids us from worshipping the likeness of anything in heaven like the stars and moon or on earth like human beings and animals or the waters under the earth...don't you think worshipping the likeness of a man (Jesus) is ok with God. As if God knows this will happen. He warned us before hand .

Just my advice..

Lol....

Hear God speaking.... 👇

Mark 1:11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Matthew 17:4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.


Jesus Christ Himself Speaking 👇

John 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
10:30 I and my Father are one.


John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.


Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Question

So why can't we follow what God said, by asking us to hear from Jesus Christ?

Ijustwantto:
So una no want barca progress.
You go explain tire dis season

All Una ojoro of yesteryears must catch up with una

Puntingnoob:
You forgot the biggest problem of them all, the bald headed fraud named Ten Hag.

Don't mind Nairaland fans... Make dem dey deceive themselves 😂

sonmvayina:
Yes I understand that...
Only man is created in God's image...

All others are not..
The devil is just the moon, (the prince of darkness)
Satan is the wind (the Lord of the air)..

Lucifer is the princess of death...

So I don't understand you.
If God spirit fails to fulfill it's mission the first time it is sent again and again..till it is done..I don't understand why God will send his spirit to burn in an everlasting fire...does not make sense to me ..does it to you?

That is how God wants his thing to be.

So if we are wise, we better be on God's side and avoid the everlasting fire of torment.

And there's only one way to escape it.

Hope you know it?

vanbonattel:
Every Christian

Na wa o...

But some Christians don't preach at all

Let's wait till 2027.

Any one who endures to the end, should vote well and not sell their votes for peanuts, if Tinubu does not improve the economy.

And if close to election, Tinubu brings back subsidy, then he's a thief, which we hope people will see through.

For now, as dollar dey rise up, make I dey increase the price of goods too...

Lol...

The dirty fights have begun

sonmvayina:
God is the divine universal consciousness...not a man

The devil is just the moon (an Orisha)
Satan is just the Wind (an Orisha)
They are laws and principles of existence.
I wonder why Christians worship them?

Christians are human beings that worship God in truth and in spirit by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, who they accepted as the Lord and Saviour

It's occultic people that worship created things and not the creator

sonmvayina:
Where did you get the idea does whatever he likes?
Or you think say the devil no get owner?

Or you think there is something God created that he can not control..

Be insulting God while thinking you are making sense...

Kontinue

God created all things.

But any being that chooses to disobey God will be punished by God.

God is not a man.

sonmvayina:
God get enemy?

Do you know the meaning of omnipotent?

James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.


1 Corinthians 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Yes She did.

One of Jesus half brothers is James.
Galatians 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother. (Paul Speaking)

Scriptures that showed that after Jesus was born, Mary has sex with Joseph and gave birth to other children, not what Catholics are preaching...

1.Matthew 1:24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

2. Matthew 12:46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
12:47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.

3. Acts 1:13 And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James.
1:14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.

4.
John 7:3 His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest.
7:4 For there is no man that doeth any thing in secret, and he himself seeketh to be known openly. If thou do these things, shew thyself to the world.
7:5 For neither did his brethren believe in him.

Michael547:
So you are saying that hell fire is not a literal fire?

How do you know that the lake of fire is physical and where will it be located?

So how come a physical and literal lake of fire would now burn a spiritual death and hell fire?

Explain with bible verses.

1. Hell Fire is the spiritual place of rebellious and sinful spirits/souls. When humans die, their physical bodies drop and buried, but their spirit beings (soul), go on to live and cannot actually die because the soul is eternal (From God).

2. The Lake of Fire will be both for physical and spiritual death. Which is the second death. It is not open yet, until it's set time.

Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

From the bolded Sir, we can see that the two people were literally thrown alive into the Lake of Fire 🔥.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Now the spiritual entity are also thrown into the Lake of Fire.

This tells us that the Lake of Fire is the end of all physical and spiritual nonentities to God.

However, for spirits and people( who will be in their resurrected dirty and sinful bodies), the Lake of Fire is eternal, as God is eternal.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Michael547:
What is the conscious part of them?

The Soul Sir, which is the spirit of God.(Which is our consciousness)

Our body is the house of the soul which is exactly our being... So if we let our bodies control our spirit man in the wrong way, it will lead down the path of destruction.

1 Peter 2:11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;

Kevineleven:
He increased the electric tarrif
Removed fuel subsidy and it all went into his pocket
He is tasking companies like dstv, indomie etc heavily in addition to the heavy money they are paying for electricity, thereby increasing the price of things in the market and he is hiding under the global inflation.
He buys yacht, private jet and other things for himself.

That's what I'm saying, even if you want to remove fuel subsidy, why not allow others for the masses to be okay?

This question needs an answer please.

Let's look at these passages:

Matthew 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

As we can see here Jesus was talking to his Apostles to go out and evangelise. Now, we also know that Jesus also had other disciples (the 72), and other followers (e.g the 5000 he Fed) etc.

Now,Apostles today are pastors, Prophets, evangelist etc??

So what about people who just go to church, or Christians who aren't pastors or evangelists etc,

1.Are they supposed to preach or evangelise the gospel like Jesus said?

2.As anyone who isn't a pastor or deacon ever done evangelism, etc, preaching to people on the streets, house to house, Bus evangelism


Please help with your experience, and also with scripture if possible to show that Jesus was talking to all believers( not only pastors etc), about evangelizing.

Michael547:
You mean people are conscious after death?

In Hell (Hades)... Yes they are conscious of their sinful lives on earth

Michael547:
So you mean that death and hell fire will be not exist after being thrown into the lake of fire?

Is the lake of fire a place of literal fire just like hell fire? If yes, how come it is able to burn death and Hell fire?

Lake of Fire is not opened now. It's a literal fire because both the body and soul will be thrown into it t, after the 2nd resurrection of the wicked.

Hell fire and death are spiritual evil condition or place or entity.

So yes, they will be burnt in the lake of fire, which will burn all physical, spiritual, immaterial or material entity.

Remember it's God's design, and there's nothing God cannot do, even things we humans cannot fully comprehend.

Just believe the word of God

seunmsg:
Subsidy was fully removed last year. However, Tinubu cannot force the price to static. PMS price in Nigeria is subject to other factors like price of crude oil in the international market, cost of refining and most importantly, exchange rate. For the no subsidy policy to remain, prices must keep changing to reflect market reality. Sadly, Nigerians can’t take any further price increases again. So, FG have to start doing under recovery to keep the price static.

Most of us Nigerians always believe that price of fuel is directly proportional to cost of goods in our markets.

If things are not so expensive for the common man, I don't think we'd care more about the fuel price.

How can 10,000 not feed a family for a week, and how come electricity is so expensive too, cost of rent etc...

So what exactly is Government subsidizing for it's citizens?

This Akpabio... Na dem finish Niger Delta

seunmsg:
Reduce it to what? At the current price of about N700, there is an under recovery of about N600 as the landing cost is around N1,300. So, how much should it be reduced to again?

How will Dangote refinery be able to refine and sell to Nigerians if there is no market reflective price? Can’t you guys see the problem? How can any sensible person be asking for price reduction at this point in time? Do you want the entire economy to collapse?

But he said there's no more subsidy payment, only to find out that he still paying some... Which means the price is adjustable...

Governance is for the masses, not some selected thieves, hence He should cut down on political theft and aides

Honestly, this man was supposed to reduce the fuel price...

What the hell is wrong with this man sef?

It's not like he isn't still paying for the subsidy..

Michael547:
So what is the essence of throwing both Hell and death into the lake of fire? What purpose does that serve?

There will be no more devils, Sin, defilement or anything that will cause enemity with God.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

At the second death, physical death and Hades, will be destroyed, but as we can see Eternal beings like Humans, Devil, angels etc, will be alive in the fire to be tormented forever and ever (eternally).
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

With Hell and death destroyed, see what the Bible says;

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Ironically, the whole world is going the way of Sodom, and will receive the punishment of Sodom but in greater fold this time

Michael547:
Where is both So why is both 'Hell' and 'death' thrown into the lake of fire?
Is Hell no longer the location of eternal torment?

Like I said Bro, Hell is Hades. It is called Hell because of the torments lost souls are condemned to in it.

It is Eternal because it's a precursor to what will happen at the Lake of Fire, and since the soul cannot die , that's why it is Eternal punishment, just like those in heaven presently, eternal life.

See what Jesus himself said:

Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

trutharena:
Fuel subsidy or not, Tinubu is working hard to stabilize the economy. Those who don't see it are just blind to progress.

So why are things so expensive in the market?

Michael547:
Who are the enemies of God, Hell and lake of fire?

Hell is where the devil and his agents are condemned to.... God created it as a punishment for them and any rebellious person who follows after the Devil- Hence it's an enemy of God.

Death is an Enemy of God.

Lake of Fire is where God will destroy all enemies

Michael547:
Why is death and hell thrown into the lake of fire as shown in Revelation 20:14 in the screenshot below?

Both are enemies of God.

And they will be destroyed and eternally punished in the presence of God and His holy angels

Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Hell fire is the wrath of God against his disobedient creatures.

There's is no coming out after a soul enters there until the second death of Lake of Fire where Hell Fire will be thrown into as well.

The devil fights tooth and nail for humans to join in his abode, thinking it will hurt God very much as God loves humans dearly , however God has already made a provision for Man to escape the wiles and deception of the Devil, in the person of Jesus Christ.

See what Jesus Christ said about Hell Fire:
Luke 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.


Accept Jesus as your Lord and Personal Saviour Now
No one can fight God
Stop listening to the voice of the devil
Overcome the power of Sin by accepting the cleansing blood of Jesus..

Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Shalom