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PoliticsRe: Pls What Business Can I Start With 3 Million , Less Competitive Pls by Jones4190(m): 9:51am On Nov 22, 2020
I have a good business plan to sell. if you are serious and interested called me let talk
PoliticsRe: Lekki Shooting: CSO Flays CNN On ‘misleading’ Report by Jones4190(m): 2:20pm On Nov 21, 2020
If the Nigerian military can move over 13 or 75 dead bodies in the eyes of over 500+ protesters at Lekki without no one having it caught on phone camera, then the NA should be regarded the best military in the world. Even the US marine cop can’t achieve that feat.
PoliticsRe: Lekki Tollgate: Chizoba Agu's Sister Speaks On Her Death by Jones4190(m): 10:12am On Nov 21, 2020
Donaldjons:
Oga don't doubt it I was at lekki toll gate when some guys where carrying her then she was still in coma, a car hit her and it was a Lexus 330 precisely and the guy have to run..... The worst of it all is that the before we could see a car or bike it took alot of time, I must confess it was really annoying
So anyone trying to politicize her death will not and never progress
let me believe you small, can you tell us when the incident happened? I means the time
PoliticsRe: Lekki Tollgate: Chizoba Agu's Sister Speaks On Her Death by Jones4190(m): 9:36am On Nov 21, 2020
TheStranger:
Lie Muhammed won't talk about the hit and run driver o
we are talking about bullet not hit and run driver
PoliticsRe: Lekki: It’s World’s First Massacre Without Blood Or Corpses - Lai Mohammed by Jones4190(m): 9:28am On Nov 21, 2020
Davash222:
Those innocent souls Nigeria Army massacred will judge you, Lai Muhammad!
what of if there is not massacre?
PoliticsRe: APC Governors Swoop On Jonathan Ahead Of 2023 Elections by Jones4190(m): 11:57pm On Nov 20, 2020
they were there to watch tv
PoliticsRe: Kogi: Family Of Murdered Pdp Women Leader To Drag Fg To Ecowas by Jones4190(m): 9:03pm On Nov 20, 2020
dot waste your time taking nigeria to ecowas, minus Nigeria Ecowas is nothing
PoliticsRe: Lekki 'Massacre': How Come We Can Only Find Bullet Wounds But No Bullet Hole? by Jones4190(m): 2:13pm On Nov 20, 2020
[quote author=Minjim post=96228530][/quote]cheek the time of the picture, it's show 4pm, did lekki so called massacre happens in the night or evening?
PoliticsRe: President Buhari Hosts Governor Umahi In Aso Rock (Photos) by Jones4190(m): 6:29am On Nov 20, 2020
singwa:
No face mask? Buhari isn't scared of Covid-19.

Finally, APC=PDP
APC = PDP, Prove ?
ANSWER
Since we know they are both parties, The 2nd "P" in PDP is a constant and so may not be included in the equation. OR we may as well say APC"P" = PD"P"
"P" = Party
Divide both sides of the equation by the constant "P".
Resulting in APC = PD
This means that if A+P+C = x, Also P+D must be equal to x
Meaning A+P+C = P+D
Using the alphabet A -Z numbers, whereby A = 1 and Z=26
Substituting letters with their corresponding numbers.
A,P,C = 1,16,3
P,D= 16,4
A+P+C = 1+16+3 = 20
P+D= 16+4 = 20
Therefore APC = PDP
PoliticsRe: RRS Officers Return Lady's Purse With N115K Which Fell Off Without Her Knowledge by Jones4190(m):
that police officer goes against nigeria police ethics, I pray make DPO no hear it or else he will be sack
PoliticsRe: Ortom: I Am Not Planning To Rejoin APC From PDP by Jones4190(m): 9:28pm On Nov 19, 2020
we don't need you in APC. we want the best not scrap like you
PoliticsRe: We Are Free From Dictatorship Says Gov Umahi As He Formally Defects to APC [Pix] by Jones4190(m): 7:53pm On Nov 19, 2020
APC = PDP, Prove ?
ANSWER
Since we know they are both parties, The 2nd "P" in PDP is a constant and so may not be included in the equation. OR we may as well say APC"P" = PD"P"
"P" = Party
Divide both sides of the equation by the constant "P".
Resulting in APC = PD
This means that if A+P+C = x, Also P+D must be equal to x
Meaning A+P+C = P+D
Using the alphabet A -Z numbers, whereby A = 1 and Z=26
Substituting letters with their corresponding numbers.
A,P,C = 1,16,3
P,D= 16,4
A+P+C = 1+16+3 = 20
P+D= 16+4 = 20
Therefore APC = PDP
PoliticsRe: Nnamdi Kanu: Wike Is A Dead Man Walking! by Jones4190(m): 5:42pm On Nov 19, 2020
the penetrator is you own sister DJ switch
Christianity EtcRe: Can A Believer Ever Convince An Atheist by Jones4190(m): 5:40pm On Nov 19, 2020
We may convince an atheist. As human beings we should be thankful to God for arranging beautiful life on Earth for us. So it should be our moral duty to introduce God to someone who don't believe in his existence.
We can convince an atheist with philosophical, scientific, historical and moral argumentation. First we should observe on what ground he/she is denying God. For example, atheist use scientific argumentation, then we should have given strong scientific evidences for the existence of God which are in abundance. If atheist believe in philosophy more then we should use philosophical argumentation rather scientific or theological arguments. If someone is on wrong path...we should try to take him on right path. It is not matter of forcing an opinion on another but it is matter of saying right to right one or wrong to wrong one.
PoliticsRe: Wike Reveals Why He Can’t Dialogue With Umahi Over His Defection by Jones4190(m): 4:39pm On Nov 19, 2020
confusion hit pdp and ipob
Christianity EtcRe: Did The Lord Jesus Christ Collect Tithes And Offerings? by Jones4190(m): 7:42am On Nov 19, 2020
emkz:
Jones4190 makes a very interesting case for who is mandated to give and who is mandated to receive, I am waiting for his answer to my question as to whether Nigerian Pastors are permitted to receive tithe...

What are your thoughts on his reasoning? I really like your reasoning about the heart giving rather than the content given: I once attended two services in a church one Sunday and the Pastor collected tithe on both services. Now I like to give because I want to, but I noticed some were giving to show off. I was uncomfortable.

Another instance, you said 1 tenth of your income, why do pastors collect every Sunday whereas many earn monthly and not weekly?

When I was abroad, the Church organized a meeting of all members and showed us account of monies that came in, monies spent and balance left. He then outlined the projects for the coming year and the members discussed. Do you support this kind of system in Nigeria? Do you support churches paying taxes? Why (or not)?
imagine if Jesus Christ who was from Israel couldn’t receive tithe because He didn’t come from the tribe of Levi, how then can a non-Israeli pastor from Africa or America be entitled to receive tithe? This also explains why Apostle Peter, Apostle Paul and the other apostles couldn’t receive tithe from anyone. Though they were men of God, they couldn’t receive tithe because they were not Levites.

"It will also interest you that presently we have some non-Levite Jewish Rabbis who are in charge of synagogues but do not receive tithe. Though they are Rabbis and are “physical” citizens of Israel, they don’t receive tithe because the law does not permit them. Any non-Levite who receives tithe sins grievously against God.

tithe cannot be paid or received in this dispensation because the purpose of giving tithe to Levites can no longer be fulfilled now. Why did God command that tithe should be given to the Levites?

"Levites were given the tithe simply because they serve at the temple of congregation. But because the temple has been destroyed, the Levites can no longer serve at the temple. So, even if you are eligible to give or receive tithe, you cannot give or receive tithe now because the temple has been destroyed.

"Do you know that no Israelite pays or receives tithe today? Yes, they have stopped giving tithe until the temple is rebuilt. Please note that when the temple is rebuilt, Christians will still not join the Jews in paying and receiving tithe because the tithe system was not created to cater for Christians. Rather, it was created to cater for Levites. This explains why the early Christians who existed before the temple was destroyed neither paid nor received tithe."
Christianity EtcRe: Did The Lord Jesus Christ Collect Tithes And Offerings? by Jones4190(m): 7:26am On Nov 19, 2020
emkz:
Quite lengthy but very enlightening. So you are saying the Nigerian Pastors who collect tithe are wrong in doing so since they are not Levites and Nigerian churchgoers are wtmrong in paying since they are not Israelites? How then should worship centers be maintained and who takes care of the modern day priests?

What about offering?
It’s a sin to pay or receive tithe. If you are a Christian do not pay tithe again so that you don’t incur the wrath of God. If Israelites do not pay tithe now, then why should you, a non-Israelite pay tithe. Even if you are a spiritual Israelite, why should you pay tithe whereas the physical Israelites don’t?

"If you are a man of God, please do not receive tithe again so that you don’t incur the wrath of God. If Jesus Christ, Apostle Paul, Apostle Peter, and co didn’t receive tithe, why then should you receive tithe? There are many other kinds of offering you can receive.

"You can receive the regular offering, partnership offering, sacrificial offering, but not tithe. The tithe system is against the poor. Yes, the tithe system takes from the poor to take care of the rich. But we are supposed to take from the rich and take care of the poor. You must stop now! Why am I telling you this? It is an instruction from the Lord. Can the instruction be found in the Bible?"
Christianity EtcRe: Did The Lord Jesus Christ Collect Tithes And Offerings? by Jones4190(m): 10:45pm On Nov 18, 2020
emkz:
Folks, I ask this question due to an earlier thread where it was reported that a pastor was jailed for defrauding a UK-based woman.

Is there any record in biblical text showing the Lord Jesus Christ collected tithe and offering?

What is the justification for it in modern-day churches if they are supposed to be modelled after Christ? Why are they emphasized in pecuniary terms (with many churches having envelops for tithes and offering).

I am not a Bible scholar nor a religious apologist nor am I a follower of Daddy Freeze (I am indifferent to him). I just want to understand why it is so important.
the answer is very simple,
When God gave the commandment of tithe, He clearly stated who would pay the tithe; who would receive the tithe; and the purpose of receiving the tithe. He said the tithe would be paid by Israelites (except those from the tribe of Levi), Jesus was not from levi, he was from judia. He said that only the Levites were permitted to receive tithe and also said it was for their service in the tabernacle of the congregation. God actually gave them the tithe as an inheritance (Numbers18: 21–24).

"For you to be eligible to pay tithe, you have to come from any of the tribes of Israel, apart from the tribe of Levi....

"Though Gentile Christians are children of Abraham, we were not given any tribe. As long as you don’t have an Israeli’s international passport, you are not eligible to give tithe. The instruction was very specific.

"Second, if you are eligible to give tithe, you are permitted to give the tithe only to one set of people called the Levites....

"The Levites are simply those from the tribe of Levi. Even in the New Testament of the Bible, the scripture clearly tells us that only the Levites are permitted to receive tithe (Hebrews 7:5). If you give your tithe to non-Levite, you are going against God’s instruction. And it will be counted against you as a sin.

"I will also like to state that there is nothing like spiritual Levites. We may have spiritual Israelites but not spiritual Levites or spiritual Benjaminite. I will also like to state here that priests did not receive tithe from the Israelites. The Israelites gave their tithe to Levites and Levites would then give 10 percent of the tithe to Priests (Numbers 18:26–28).

"Third, for you to be eligible to receive tithe, you must be a Levite. It’s very clear in the scripture. When a non-Levite receives tithe, the person has gone against the instruction of God. Such person has committed a sin. If you are not from the tribe of Levi, then you are not a Levite.

"There is nothing like a spiritual Levite. This explains why Jesus Christ, who was from the tribe of Judah, didn’t receive tithe from anyone. Apart from the fact that Jesus didn’t ask the Israelites to pay tithe to him, He still encouraged them to continue paying their tithe. In Matthew 22:23, He rebuked the Pharisees that they pay tithe, which is less important, and leave the more important things like justice, mercy and faithfulness. He then encouraged them to do both the less important ones and the more important ones. In other words, He encouraged them to continue paying tithe to the Levites. That was simply the law. Only Levites could receive tithe and only israel will paid tithe.
PoliticsRe: We Must Renew Ties That Bind Us Together As A Society – Osinbajo by Jones4190(m): 4:10pm On Nov 17, 2020
it's 9ja oil the tire us together
PoliticsRe: 2023: Ailing PDP Hallucinating On ‘third Force’ - APC by Jones4190(m): 10:11pm On Nov 16, 2020
APC = PDP, Prove ?
ANSWER
Since we know they are both parties, The 2nd "P" in PDP is a constant and so may not be included in the equation. OR we may as well say APC"P" = PD"P"
"P" = Party
Divide both sides of the equation by the constant "P".
Resulting in APC = PD
This means that if A+P+C = x, Also P+D must be equal to x
Meaning A+P+C = P+D
Using the alphabet A -Z numbers, whereby A = 1 and Z=26
Substituting letters with their corresponding numbers.
A,P,C = 1,16,3
P,D= 16,4
A+P+C = 1+16+3 = 20
P+D= 16+4 = 20
Therefore APC = PDP
PoliticsRe: Orji Uzor Kalu To Buy Arsenal FC, Stakes 35% by Jones4190(m): 10:03pm On Nov 16, 2020
it an overstatement for you to dreams that arsenal will carry champion and EPL, infact you already loose the bid
Foreign AffairsRe: Post Electoral Violence Breakout In US As Trump And Bidden Supporters Clash by Jones4190(m): 7:17am On Nov 15, 2020
trump is just a boy
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump 2 Million March Rally In DC Against Rigging (Very Peaceful) by Jones4190(m): 11:53pm On Nov 14, 2020
trump is a local poltician like atiku
PoliticsRe: Laz Ogbe, Umahi’s Commissioner Resigns, Refuses To Join APC by Jones4190(m): 9:02pm On Nov 12, 2020
The SE are the cause of their political predicaments today. They lost the plot after the death of Zik. No matter how the pro-Biafran dumb bandwagon may want to paint Zik, he made sure the Igbos got their fair share in the power sharing equation. Any wonder why since 1993 no Igbo have come close to attaining the Presidential seat. Following the PDP stupidly was a political mistake that has come back to hunt Igbos.
Seeing that the PDP had no future for them from 1999 -2003, they should have joined any formidable party to send them packing. But that was never done. In 2003 when the opportunity presented itself they foolishly played the southern game by supporting Obasanjo instead of a Buhari with a SE running mate. They had the opportunity with Buhari/Okadigbo ANPP but cowardly supported Obasanjo. What did Obasanjo gift them in return, political death? The same Obasanjo is the godfather of MASSOB who has now metamorphosed to IPOB, a monster currently ravaging the Igbo nation.
The opportunity arose again in 2007 with Buhari / Umezuoke but still the igbo people ignorantly sold their birthright supporting Yar’adua / GEJ. Though Yar’adua was fair to everyone, but fairness and sympathy votes don’t count in Nigeria.
The last opportunity came in 2015 when Buhari toured the SE for Igbo alliance. A zone that had stood with him since 2001, but what he saw made him weep. Seeing that he couldn't get it he looked to the SW. This was where Ndigbo shot themselves in the foot. Even when te likes of Rochas with his APGA faction along with Ogbonnaya Onu ANPP rallied Ndigbo to join the APC, the wicked PDP politicians of Igbo extraction called them outcast and continued dining with the PDP. What should have been a bargaining chip in the APC was sold on the alter of greed. By foolishly standing with GEJ in 2015, the SE sounded their political death knell.
Well, It’s never too late than never. The SE must leave the PDP in drove, either starting a new party or seek the fellowship of the APC. You people must have self-worth and not be easily swayed by emotions. This is the lesson.
The defection of Gov. Umahi to APC will lead to more defection before 2023 and this will affect PDP. Votes in the SE.
The days of 5% APC and 95% PDP in the South East are over.
APC has more visible projects in South East than the PDP but PDP gave South East more appointments than APC so each of the party has something to compaigñ with in the southeast.
The Southeast is now a level playing ground for both parties.

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PoliticsRe: 'Anonymous' Uses APC's Twitter Handle To Ask Pastor Adeyemi Not To Join EndSARS by Jones4190(m): 6:42am On Nov 12, 2020
God Is not a politician, he will never join the politics of men. those who are called by his name should stay clear from politics
PoliticsRe: I Will Be Like Joe Biden – Pastor Tunde Bakare by Jones4190(m): 4:16pm On Nov 11, 2020
politics is not for children of God, any pastor that get involve in politics is not called by God, God is not a politician,
God will never join the politics of men
Jesus did not join politics because he know is mission on earth is to preach about the kingdom, as a pastor your work is strickly for the kingdom of God not the pressure of this world
Foreign AffairsRe: "I May Run In 2024" Says President Donald Trump by Jones4190(m): 3:43pm On Nov 11, 2020
Trump is a local politicians
PoliticsRe: Nnamdi Kanu Not Igbo, Family Roots Traced To Cameroon – Group by Jones4190(m): 3:40pm On Nov 11, 2020
it's is true him and his brother Atiku are on the mission to cause havoc in nigeria
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right For Christians To Plead The Blood Of Jesus? by Jones4190(m): 3:20pm On Nov 11, 2020
the blood of Jesus is for cleansing of sin not for covering our sins
PoliticsRe: Please Help: Why Exactly Is FG Treating EndSARS Protesters Like Criminals? by Jones4190(m): 2:43pm On Nov 11, 2020
because the are criminals

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