TayserMahri: Plus where else in the bloody planet do two bitter rival leaders bury the hatchet for the sake of country and join hands to support big 4 development agenda? Only in Kenya! In most of these other intellectually bankrupt African countries there would be no country!
I was just responding to a post,like I do normally.When people say of Kenya's tribalism,we recognize it and we don't get triggered. How one of your own started throwing toys out of the pram calling us little Indians is just comedy gold!
Lionessza6: LMFAO this why I call some of you comedians . You are quick to point out imperfections from SA yet when we do the same you take the same defensive position " we know our problems " . Ofcourse you do , do we not know ours ? But we don't go around pointing those of Kenya to make ourselves feel better do we ? . Like I said before , we don't mind criticism and we take it just like we will take some compliments . I have gone through the thread and seen how some of our departments and systems are criticised, rightfully so but there is a certain level of that will not be accepted, wtf ? .
More like it's like a Nigerian itching for one! Let them start.It was a Nigerian that started this thread, right?
abbeg: Why are some Kenyans itching for an S.A. war here? you tired of taking fruitless jabs at Nigeria? You guys want to start ww3 on nairaland! Just saying tho I would totally side with S.A. against Kenya if an e-war were to break out here.Kenya is trash.I actually thought Kenya was better than Nigeria once.After seeing this thread.. I realise how good we've got it compared to Kenya.
He'll come back with Tanzania's BRT and how their farmers are teaching their Kenyan counterparts how to grow cashewnuts!
kikuyu1: Ordinarily, that irrefutable fact would silence a normal human person,but this guy.... He'll come back bleating Kibera and Turkana to be liked for the 4821st time by his Naij geniuses.
Tribalism is there,we are not denying that.It mainly manifests itself during elections,we've lately had quite peaceful elections.We've grown so much looking past what happened in the greater election violence in 2007 that caught attention.So it's dying away,albeit slow!
And no,you can come up on me anytime you want.
Kenyans in this thread would normally accept their imperfections,we won't dress high-heels on pigs and then call them princesses!
Lionessza6: LMFAO , You really sound like some of these illiterate Nigerians now . So you thought South Africa would suddenly be free of any racial bias or hate in just a less than 3 decades ? When Kenya can't even unite a small number of black people who have a common language ? . Should we start talking about the random cases of racism and tribalism ( The biggest sickness in the world) from Kenya? . I'm not against you people criticises SA , we need to it to grow but when some of you idiots take a certain tone in your criticism you must be ready to get one back . By the way racism will never die it will only multiply " Chris Rock" . But what matters Is how the majority of people choose to act towards each other, SA and America know this one very well. I don't want to visit the African love subject again, it will make 999.9% of the nations on this thread bow their heads in shame, and Kenya is on top of that list as well.
We might as well start believing that South Africa was 'wholly' a product of whites and the blacks did NOTHING,but then again that's not how we roll!
NairobiWalker: So apparently your 'facts' are based on the premise of Obaboon and co. calling Kenyans little Indians? So when they also say Kibera has 2.5 million people you'll take it as a fact? So when the kazikazi dude speaks as if every black person in Kenya lives in Turkana and is starving you'll take that to be a fact? When the same Nigerian idiots claim South Africa was built by whites for whites while the blacks live in the slums we should also believe their 'facts'?
ednited: Don't forget Ethiopia too. At the time of Nelson Mandela, the dictator Mengistu hailemariam trained Mandela in Ethiopia and gave him a gold gun to defend himself.
we have a proverb 'Ye gize jegna enji yesew jegna yelewm' which highlights only time rules. A lion will get old and weak then there will be time for other animals to play on it. Time changes everything
Ethiopia is now a poor country while South Africa is now much much developed than Ethiopia. It doesn't make us less respected denying facts.
So we paid for our independence? That's a new one.Just proove it.I accept facts.
JaceBlaze: It's not a past as you claim,it's still a huge problem in Kenya.I don't see any issue if that race is South African.Can it be as embarrassing as Kenya having to pay the white man to leave Kenya.Who in their right minds reward colonialists? and I see you think we don't know that Indians and whites still pretty much run the show there.At least xenophobia is against aliens,not South Africans wiping each other out of existence with machetes
Just shut up.All the four were assassinated 'probably' by the same machinery.Be careful,we respect him in Kenya.But since you are a Tanzanian,you don't have to appreciate him! I'm sure millions appreciate him!
Kazikazi: Tom mboya was a sell out. He was gunned down for being a spy! May be you didn't have a knowledge of those complex stuffs
Mention the Indian and the whites! This one is quite ironical coming from a South African trying to say that Indians and whites control Kenya's economy!
JaceBlaze: It's not a past as you claim,it's still a huge problem in Kenya.I don't see any issue if that race is South African.Can it be as embarrassing as Kenya having to pay the white man to leave Kenya.Who in their right minds reward colonialists? and I see you think we don't know that Indians and whites still pretty much run the show there.At least xenophobia is against aliens,not South Africans wiping each other out of existence with machetes
You left that part of my sentence.We were bad some years ago(2007),but I can confidently say that we can end it soon.Kenya's tribalism happens to show during the elections.We are not the finished article yet but we've greatly moved on.
JaceBlaze: It's not a past as you claim,it's still a huge problem in Kenya.I don't see any issue if that race is South African.Can it be as embarrassing as Kenya having to pay the white man to leave Kenya.Who in their right minds reward colonialists? and I see you think we don't know that Indians and whites still pretty much run the show there.
I'm just talking of the numbers,I'm more on the economics!
vaxx: i think it is not better by African standard either. It is one of the most unequal societies in the world, much more worst than Nigeria. . There are many desperately poor people and a few fantastically wealthy people. If you are lucky enough to be in the money over there you can have an amazing quality of life with a big house, swimming pools, advanced private medical care, luxury cars, servants, eat out every night etc. If you are poor, you will probably live in a shack and have no access to mains electricity and running water or medicine.
Our fight for independence wasn't all about Kenya-It was about Africa and the whole black fraternity.It's for this reason that our freedom fighters got accolades even from the distant lands! kazikazi
Kazikazi: After helping you,is that how you thank united republic of Tanzania? A kiberan will forever remain a kiberan. We did a lot to u yet u call us lazy,we are one of the fastest growing economy yet you call us lazy.Anyway, may be your definition of hard work is sitting in a dusty Turkana and starving!
Was our independence given on a silver platter like Tz's ? When Kenyans like Tom Mboya,Pio Gama Pinto held hands with the likes of Malcolm X and Martin Lutherking Jnr calling for black dignity,where were the Tanzanians?
Kazikazi: We helped many nations during white rule.Did you do the same? Were you not the ones fighting for white man?
This was our dirty past which we own.But we've made great strides since the 2007 election violence.I reckon more cohesion is needed.But another race running the show in your own backyard is pretty embarrassing. You've got your own share of black versus black through xenophobia.
JaceBlaze: But Kenya holds the fort when it comes to tribalism,the worst kind of hatred when you consider the fact that it's a black on black hate which sometimes leads to brutal attacks
It is through legends like Satao the elephant that Tusker beer got its name. Satao was big just like another monstrous elephant known as Ahmed who died long ago.At a point in his life,Satao's tusks brushed the dust as he majestically walked!
The jelousy neighbour from the south.You won't easily hear a Ugandan being so bitter about Kenya! Seldom will you see it from Ugandans but more of bitterness emanates from the Majimaji folks!
Some of them cheered when we were under the terrorist attack in their forums.They lack class!
gallivant: He lost his mind long time ago. Sometimes I feel bad for only for him to remind me not to the following day.
Kazikazi: A kiberan head! Dar is more populous than Nairobi! And is projected to be a mega very soon! Its one one the fastest growing cities in africa,that means the demand will shoot up for longer than you think.
When we say gov owns most of our highrises we means gov parastatals which are mostly pension funds! Britam in Kenya has a tower,but when gov pension fund in Tz owns a tower you are crying,why? Jeolous?
Know this,Our parastals are so huge.we have more than 400 parastatals.Prepare to see more towers and you will cry more
Capitalism isn't the answer of all mankind problems.Yes,capitalism have done something in USA and western Europe but not in Kenya! Your type of capitalism is unknown in this world.Most of your economy is under Europeans while the capitalism which is in america is the opposite of what we see in Kenya.Most of Americans assets and big companies are under americans! Think of Ford,coca cola,apple,Microsoft, etc all are owned by Americans!
Back to kibera republic... Most of your economy is under few foreigners! Most of the Kenyans are marginalized.They were forsaken in Turkana and other parts of Kenya.What you did was failing to copy Americans. You should do what they did...to own your economy! The results are clearer. Starvation is killing your own.Today you are flocking to TZ for employment, you're killing yourself for water! Tribalism is killing many in Kenya.You are failing to pay your doctors. You came to TZ to learn agriculture, sewage management, fighting terrorism, banking and so forth!
Are you still be proud of your policies? Policies which made you to starve because you gave away all of your fertile land to whites? Are you happy to see most of your country is dark as a hole? Anyway, Are you still ranked as a failed state?
Someone is on a rampage! The guy is trying hard to bring in Tanzania into the conversation.Can't say much though about people who kill albinos and regular little kids thinking they'll be rich!
Capitalism isn't the answer of all mankind problems.Yes,capitalism have done something in USA and western Europe but not in Kenya! Your type of capitalism is unknown in this world.Most of your economy is under Europeans while the capitalism which is in america is the opposite of what we see in Kenya.Most of Americans assets and big companies are under americans! Think of Ford,coca cola,apple,Microsoft, etc all are owned by Americans!
Back to kibera republic... Most of your economy is under few foreigners! Most of the Kenyans are marginalized.They were forsaken in Turkana and other parts of Kenya.What you did was failing to copy Americans. You should do what they did...to own your economy! The results are clearer. Starvation is killing your own.Today you are flocking to TZ for employment, you're killing yourself for water! Tribalism is killing many in Kenya.You are failing to pay your doctors. You came to TZ to learn agriculture, sewage management, fighting terrorism, banking and so forth!
Are you still be proud of your policies? Policies which made you to starve because you gave away all of your fertile land to whites? Are you happy to see most of your country is dark as a hole? Anyway, Are you still ranked as a failed state?