₦airaland Forum

He is a deranged fella!

NairobiWalker:
Now you can dare mention me yet you couldn't hold the discussion while it lasted? You even quoted a blog claiming it's CIA and you ran away when I brought you the real CIA data. At least he's quoting the real CIA.

Both if you want to.But this one is on revenues! What did your exchequer collect in 2017?

forgiveness:
Is that about budget or revenue? Answer my question.

Give us the figures from your truest of truest sources! Both Kenya's and Nigeria's ones!

forgiveness:
Like your brother said it is coming useless source. Besides, is this about budget or revenue?

You couldn't say it more correct than this.Year by year,they always base their budget estimate going by the global oil prices!

rvp20182:
And most of it from oil..just add 2b from 36 states IGR..and add 1b for Kenya..and you'll see they collect less money than Kenya.

This is the elephant in the room that they are avoiding to discuss!

Kenya-Population,48m (2017 est)

revenues: $15.43 billion
expenditures: $24.59 billion (2017 est.)



Nigeria-Population,191m (2017 est)

revenues: $13.97 billion
expenditures: $22.15 billion (2017 est.)

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2221rank.html

I'm still waiting for the amount of revenues that their exchequer collected in 2017! I want to see if it's 5 times more than ours!

rvp20182:
Okay how much profit did Nigeria banks make in 2017.We already settled the banking asset at approximately 40b to 100b.Let see total profit made by your banks.

Revenues,country by country comparison! As usual,Africa's largest economy SA is at number one!


South Africa-Population,56m (2017 est.)

revenues: $92.38 billion
expenditures: $103.3 billion (2017 est.)

Angola-Population,30m (2017 est.)

revenues: $35.59 billion
expenditures: $44.64 billion (2017 est.)

Egypt-Population,98m (2017 est.)

revenues: $37.63 billion
expenditures: $58.55 billion (2017 est.)

Algeria-Population,42 (2017 est.)

revenues: $52.08 billion
expenditures: $70.74 billion (2017 est

Kenya-Population,48m (2017 est)

revenues: $15.43 billion
expenditures: $24.59 billion (2017 est.)

Ethiopia-Population,105m (2017 est)

revenues: $12.11 billion
expenditures: $14.63 billion (2017 est.)

Nigeria-Population,191m (2017 est)

revenues: $13.97 billion
expenditures: $22.15 billion (2017 est.)


https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2221rank.html

Bring the totals then.Is that so hard?

68816419:
Do even know the differences BTW states IGR and Federal government generated revenues ?

What do you mean by this? Of course we have a corruption problem,is that a surprise?Leaders do steal,we don't have 100% transparency,I'm sorry if you didn't know that. Going back to the revenues debate,let's talk about that! How much was federal plus state revenues in Nigeria 2017?

68816419:
yeah, I so much love honest Kenyans, they say the truth unlike these "paid foreign" Kenyans on Nairaland .

I want the total government revenues for 2017.I provided my links but apparently you think that CIA isn't a credible organisation.Give me the totals,that's what I asked you for! https://www.google.com/search?q=revenue+per+capita+country&rlz=1C1GCEU_en-GBKE821KE821&oq=revenue+per+capita+country&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.11855j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

68816419:
you can do the math your self.
lagos for instance generated around 320billion last year, but now generates over 400billion at half year 2018 analysis meaning it Will generate some thing close to around 800 billions naira ending of the year .
when we say Lagos economy is bigger and and better than Kenya economy, we ain't saying it out of blues but with valid figures and proof.

Just give me the totals! I don't want pictures or tables!

68816419:
should first analyse what our states generated in half year information and then compare it the 27b ksh your country generated for a year , before furthering to what the federal government gets .

So what were your total figures for 2017?!

68816419:
understand this figure bellow and compare it what the whole of kenya counties generated which around 65billions naira at most.

"The 47 counties collected a total of Sh24.7 billion between July 2016 and March this year compared to Sh25.9 billion realised over a similar period a year earlier, data by the Treasury shows."

Mind you these are states IGR not federal revenues.

So,they don't have a strong insurance sector? No wonder their life expectancy is at 55 years!

rvp20183:
Ours is second to RSA - who are far ahead. Nigeria is still a primitive yam based economy.

Nothing to see from Nigeria's financial sector beyond banks! How is their insurance industry fairing?

rvp20183:
Yes if our financial sector is starting to kick arse - M-pesa transacted about 45B dollars last year.

Add mobile money which has made banks pretty useless! We must have the best SACCO industry in Africa if I'm not wrong? But SA has lately been giving us the run for our own money.I was baffled when I heard that Unaitas SACCO had assets worth 3.5 billion US dollars back in 2014!

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Stima--Unaitas-top-saccos-/539552-2432860-format-xhtml-r4sngtz/index.html

rvp20183:
40 versus 101 - simple maths - 2.5 times larger than kenya - when you have 4 times our population - we don't even factor our Africa leading Co-operative movements with our SACCOs controlling billions & thriving micro-finance sector.

2) I am not sure what you mean by revenues - if you meant profitability - then On average Kenyan banks have been more efficient than Nigerian banks - more profitable.

To cut it short

What was your government's revenues for 2017 in billion US dollars? Let's see if your treasury benefits from those 'five times more sectorial revenues' that you get!

forgiveness:
He is telling you CIA agent is not a regulatory body. Simple and short.

Garrisa Solar Power Plant,Kenya

Ugandans were celebrating their 10MW plant before we recently unveiled this 55MW plant of clean energy that will power Garissa County!

You have failed to provide the total Nigeria's government revenues.My brain isn't tied with the other Kenyans! Just because he doesn't trust CIA it doesn't mean that their data isn't reliable! Not all Kenyans think Uhuru is the best for us,but some Kenyans do.It was his opinion not mine!

forgiveness:
Thanks for agreeing that that source is useless.

I backed my claims with source here. At least, you can still remember how Nigeria's $7b revenue from filmed industry crippled your hands.

If there is any you want to know, ask and it shall be given.

No time to waste.

Soroti is from Uganda and it only produces 10MW
The new Garissa Solar Power plant from Kenya produces 55MW!

Kenyanstar:
The reason why holding an intellectual conversation with a Nigerian is harder than stable electricity in Nigeria. The moment you think they are getting sensible they switch off like their electricity, minutes later you are singing like a generator ranting all over.
SOROTI SOLAR POWER PLANT

Let's say it's true.Give me your sources then!

forgiveness:
See what your fellow Kenyan has to say about your source. Kkkkkkkk

And just to imagine the governor of this county is as good as dead!

Kenyanstar:
KENYA
HOMABAY TOWN- COUNTY

I'm not surprised to say the least.That's what I expected from Nigeria! Their GDP has been a lie all along! You just can't doubt South Africa's numbers,they speak for themselves!

rvp20183:
Their entire banking assets - meaning all deposits & loans - is not even 100B dollars - compared to 41B in kenya as of 2017. That should tell you their economy is puny unless their service sector is running on Naira stored under mattress. South Africa has 370B - just one Standard Bank alone has more assets than all Nigeria bank(140B)- First Rand(80), NEDBank(70). That is the kind of economy they are telling us they are already at

It is easy for them to say that we are 5 times more than Kenya from sector to sector.The thing should be,how much does their treasury collect from all those sectors? How much money is in Nigeria's piggy-bank at the end of each year? That should end the debate!

Have a look! https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2056.html

rvp20183:
Trying to square circles huh? I mean since you discovered you needed to be 4 times larger than kenya and at least 5 times larger to be better - you're now desperately trying to force figures. This is hilarious. But don't give up - Yemi Kale is looking for creative genius like you so he can continue lying to Nigeria that they are Africa biggest economy - when everyone knows that is BS.

The reality is you service sector is at best twice as large as kenya. You economy should be around 180-200B now (it used to be 150B before Yemi Kale famously rebased it to the moon) - way lower than Algeria - leave alone Egypt & South Africa.

That is why you total state + federal budget is 40B dollars compared to kenya national & county budget of nearly 33-35B dollars. You can cook GDP - but you cannot cook the money that goes to gov coffers. The economy that is five times larger than Kenya should generate five times more revenues/taxes/jobs etc!

To complete this herculean task...I want you to also claim your total gov revenue is 35*5=170B taxes.Then go claim your job as Nigerian General Statistician. They need such terrific talents.

Safari Sevens Kenya

Rugby players and fans!

Abdul Haji,the brother of Kenya's Director of Public Prosecution Noordin Haji took things to his hands when the Westgate Mall was under attack!

Civilians with firearms can be of great help!

The woman was glad to meet the hero who saved her and her child!

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-africa-24301318/kenya-attack-abdul-haji-on-westgate-mall-rescue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW_Qh2onWyA?t=206

G1 Tactical training is open to all Kenyans with licensed firearms!

We also have outages in the US.But for your case it is chronic and extreme!

forgiveness:
So this is a confirmation that there's power outage in Kenya. Thanks for the vital information. Next!

Men at work!

Reece Squad and ATPU (Anti Terrorism Police Unit)

The rifles in the Pictures are M16 Carbine,AR15 and Fn Scar-H. I'm not sure about the rifle from the third pic!

Trigger finger discipline on point!

Qatar are tight about letting in Nigerians! Nigerians don't easily get the visa to get into that nation! I can understand the need to hire Kenyans and Indians by the Nigerian Embassy! They shouldn't complain though,it's just an embassy!

mtisTheQubit:
Like it or not we can make a dent wherever we go

https://www.nairaland.com/3740923/indians-kenyans-working-nigerian-embassy

He has not yet done that,I guess he'll do it soon. Djibouti and Kenya are visa free,SA gets visa on arrival and the rest of the continent needs visas to get in.Abiy seems a good fella,he is liberalizing Ethiopia which was long overdue,I wish nothing but the best for the guy!

rvp20183:
I think new PM has lifted visa for all africans. That guy seem more progressive than the intelligent Meles Zenawi. We need to seize the opportunity presented by the new PM - and enter into bilateral trade deals - If Ethiopia opens it's private sector - telcoms/banking - kenya companies can move in - I think only flower companies did move but forex problems soon made it impossible.

Only Djiboutians and Kenyans are exempted of Visa when going to Ethiopia.I wonder if there are Kenyans there.Just never heard of stories of Kenyans from Djibouti or Ethiopia! One of the reasons why Kenya doesn't interact much with Ethiopia is due to a lesser developed Southern Ethiopia and Northern Kenya!https://www.visaopenness.org/

rvp20183:
Africa Visa Openness - Kenya moves 6 places to join top 10. Only two African countries require VISA to visit kenya now (South Africa as retaliation for their visa requirements) - with majority granted visa on arrival

Nigeria - the so called GIANT OF AFRICA - requires 35 countries in Africa to have VISA before visiting their shithole.
https://www.visaopenness.org/

Nigeria is a cesspool! It makes me laugh when they say that we envy them!

Kur17:
Ooh what a shiiit....
Two hours is a hell for me, thank God it rarely happens... I normally bother Kplc thru FB, tweeter, calls, SMS

Has Kenya ever been in such a situation in the last a hundred years