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Almost a half of the 83 million Nigerians who live in the Urban areas reside in slums. Nigeria leads the rest of the world with the highest population of masses who live below the poverty line.Let's talk about that!

Iwantslavesgone:
People come to sell a lot of things in naija because we are the biggest market , biggest economy , biggest middle class and the big ballers of Africa. If you want to make an impact in Africa, come to naija, Kenya is just a starving shythole with dark savages no one likes .

Cursed people have a low life expectancy and a crap of an insurance sector to protect them and their loved ones. Nigeria fits that definition perfectly!

Iwantslavesgone:
You are in pains don't lie . Nigeria has dark people but not your level of dark skin , that's special kind like your pals South Sudan . You are the cursed people of Africa.

She came to sell her bleaching cream, I bet your dermatologists body was happy with that !

Iwantslavesgone:
What is your reaction to the point that most American celebrities think Nigeria when they think of going to any African shythole?. How many even know you masai without the animals and primitive and starving people

I'm alright lad sipping my tasty Kenyan tea, I'm in no pain . Nigeria's open denial of the dark skin people existence in their country is just funny and absurd at the same time!

Iwantslavesgone:
See painment

Blac Chyna the American thot recently unveiled her bleaching skin product in Nigeria out of all countries. What's your honest reaction on that?

Iwantslavesgone:
It pain em . Ugly mofos

It's worse when it's floating on water !

Iwantslavesgone:
too much soul can kill.

Someone is clearly melting ! Accept the black man you are ! Bring me the 'darkest people stats' in both countries,is there any data you have?

Iwantslavesgone:
You are not buying what you useless hater . You think you charcoals are lighter than us ? . Jokers .

It's because we have something to show, that explains all the pictures. Nigeria has no soul,it must be pretty useless carrying around a camera in Nigeria!

genieluv:
It's very true. Nigerian buildings, streets and aerial views tend to have very limited pictures online.
**** For instance there are very beautiful parts of Kaduna and Jos that I would like to have posted here, but one just can't find them online.

>>> It seems like Kenyan cities and buildings have more pictoral views than Nigeria's, perhaps for tourist reasons.

What a useless comeback! I'm not buying it!

Iwantslavesgone:
You are an illiterate. Because we are black don't mean we are the blackest like you people and Sudan. Apart from the horn, Nigeria has the highest number of light skin people in Africa. You can suck my balls if it pain you.

The most populous black country in Africa does not have a lot of dark people? O Blimey!

Iwantslavesgone:
You think Nigeria is like your charcoal and kiwi nation ? . You are too stupid to know that Nigeria has the least charcoal people in Africa after some nations from the horn . You guys dominate the charcoal and uglyist of Africa. People with light skin in Africa are found in places like North Sudan, Somalia , Ethiopia, Ethiopia and Nigeria , I won't mention the whites in north Africa. The rest of you are dark by nature , stop denying the obvious . Stop being pained. Nigeria does not have a lot of dark people like the rest of Africa.

Between wikipedia and a government official,who is more trustworthy?

Nigeria would be a logistic giant in Africa if its transport infrastructure was top notch. There is nothing to copy from Nigeria in regard to roads,sea ports,airports and railways!

darfay:
Lol. That is the usual apc Vs pdp propaganda

The same minister while he was governor of Lagos State said the state had more paved road than Ghana.Lagos alone has more than that tbh

Kenyans would mostly make an effort of giving references to whatever they write.I gave out the links,that's the most important thing!

genieluv:
Wow! Jonraid, why did you have to lie about the distance of paved roads in Kenya?

**** Lying is the height of childishness and desperation.

I have been going pages and pages back on this thread and I have observed that some Kenyans here tell lies a lot just to prove their points.

Thanks for letting us know the truth bro.

Here it is.And it is quoted from the minister

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/05/nigeria-paved-28980km-193200km-road-network-55-yrs-fashola/

forgiveness:
Where did you see 28,000km?

See the snapshot.

It should be this

Classified roads in Km in Kenya-63000

Classified roads in Km in Nigeria- 60,000

Paved roads in Kenya-13,900

Paved roads in Nigeria-28,900

Remember,Nigeria is bigger than Kenya in landmass and it has more than 140,000,000 million people than Kenya.

But when you look at the quality of roads.Kenya is actually one of the best in Africa in that segment.Nigeria is actually not anywhere in the top ten- https://sarf.org.za/top-10-african-countries-quality-roads/

forgiveness:
See snapshot that shows that only about 13,000km roads are paved in the whole of Kenya.

You are a simpleton!

theenchanter:
thats one of ur greatest problems here.... lack of basic understanding.

U have 60000km as classified but less than 10000km is paved.

Go reread the whole article. Your comprehension skills are wanting!
When my height grows by two inches,that doesn't mean that my actual height is two inches!

theenchanter:
thats one of ur greatest problems here.... lack of basic understanding.

U have 60000km as classified but less than 10000km is paved.

The gardeners did a good job!

gallivant:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dq1qJHMWoAMSYYz.jpg


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dq1qKGGW4AMD2l-.jpg

We beat Nigeria on roads.Nigeria has about 195,000 km road network out of which a proportion of about 32,000 km are federal roads while 31,000km are state roads.
“Out of this, only about 60,000km are paved. Of the paved roads, a large proportion is in very poor, unacceptable condition due to insufficient investment and lack of adequate resources.

Kenya which is much lesser in size and population has a road network of about 177,800 km out of which 63,575 km is classified as paved.

Never has Nigeria be an African giant in infrastructure. Ask yourself why Kenya is among top 4 Africa's logistics giants.


References

http://www.kenha.co.ke/index.php/road-network


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/09/135000km-road-network-nigeria-remains-untarred-icrc/

Kenyanstar:
KENYA
TAITA-TAVETA COUNTY
New mint road

Let it remain as it is. This thread has mainly been the design of the Kenyans and the ignorant Nigerians. Let him start his African thread!

TayserMahiri:
No problem the topic can be changed but on certain conditions to avoid 'biting the hand that feeds you' syndrome.

So:

1. Everyone should thank Nigerians for providing a platform that accepts all online vagabonds!
2. Everyone should thank Kenyans for being smarter and more developed than Nigeria hence this popular long thread!
3. Then thank yourselves for speaking out!

If that happens, then the transition will be smooth sailing. Otherwise, you will just have to create the thread yourself and hope it attracts as many vagabonds as this one.



When you praise them dont you realize you're taking sides? If you dont like taking sides then praise no one, not even your country or yourself.

First,try to beat Boko Haram who are proving to be a thorn in the flesh inside your own backyard!

Edodefender:
we'll destroy them and take over Kenya in just a week

FCB Mihrab ,Kilimani,Nairobi

We all know Nigerian buildings to be boxy ugly structures with no soul.There is no sophisticated architectural touch in them!

He just doesn't get it!

NairobiWalker:
Comparing revenue collection from our counties to your state's is just misleading and ego-massaging to your side. We all know these are two different countries with different constitutions - unless you bring us a breakdown of which taxes your states are allowed to collect vis a vis the same that our counties are allowed to collect. Bring me the total revenue collection by your government (Federal government + states) and we can compare with Kenya's total (National government + counties) then we can talk.

rvp20182,It seems that the SACCOS boom and the cap rate aren't banks main headache. It looks like Fintech is the real threat.Our banks should now be innovative going forward or else loose the edge they've been having.Anyway I think banks are here to stay but going forward they should be more smarter or risk becoming more and more obsolete.I personally can't remember the last time I withdrew cash via atm or bank tellers thanks to mobile money.Diversity,technology and regional expansion is what will keep Kenyan banks afloat in the future.Mobile money that was once a threat to the banking industry is now very much supported by banks.Banks moved in and now the mobile money system is intertwined with the banking system!

Fintech is also now looking to eat into the insurance industry,talk of Mtiba that has had success in the issuance of health insurance to Kenyans.Fintech will disrupt many sectors.I'm keen on seeing how this development will sprout about in the near future! Banks are now lending big to the government! The banking market has changed a bit it seems!

https://www.nation.co.ke/business/McKinsey-says-fintechs-threat-to-Kenyan-banks/996-4873458-lr5hhr/index.html

The difference is what they are to tax!

This are the sources of income of our county governments https://www.epickenyan.com/sources-of-county-government-revenue-in-kenya/

.Bring out Nigeria's federal state sources of revenue!

forgiveness:
1. Who told you revenue is not collected twice in Nigeria?

2. Lagos state doesn't collect one Naira from the ports in Lagos rather the federal government does. No excuse for the unproductive 47 counties in Kenya.

3. That was how you people lied Kenya's counties have their own budgets. Liars.

He lamented of one of your boys stupidity! Couldn't you see it? Was that hard to comprehend?

forgiveness:
A question that was answered by himself.

I don't remember us having a 15 billion dollar budget.You can as well prove it to me!

forgiveness:
Lying Kenyan, that is for budget.

He is also asking the same question,can't you see it? It was not a statement but rather a question!

forgiveness:
Where did Lagos generates 20 times more than the whole Nigeria, huh?

Lagos population is at 23 million in 2018 not 17m.It is best to put it over 21m! Mombasa is at 1.2m-1.4m!

NairobiWalker:
What you don't understand is, in Kenya revenue is collected twice - by the county government and by the National government. The county government's revenue is limited to minor things like public parking revenue etc while the national government collects the bulk of taxes including VAT, Income tax etc. Whatever you keep throwing to us is a minute fraction of what is collected in Mombasa (remember Kilindini harbor in Mombasa is the third busiest port in Africa after Durban Richards Bay in SA so the port revenue also comes in) and if at all Lagos, a state of over 17 million people, collects a mere 880M USD of tax then you should be mourning rather than boasting.

1 Kenya shilling= 3.55 Naira

Remember,this revenues that they collect are mostly in parking fees and small business permits.Counties are not mandated to collect taxes in Kenya,it is the KRA(Kenya revenue Authority) that performs this task!

Read here to understand https://www.epickenyan.com/sources-of-county-government-revenue-in-kenya/

68816419:
show me where Mombasa generated more revenue than kano state not to mentioned Ogun, Rivers, Delta and lagos states.
.
Nigga kenya is too small to be compared with Nigeria..
what your TREASURY Board has to say

"Nakuru’s internally generated revenue also dipped by Sh400 million to Sh1.1 billion, according to the data by the Treasury, while Uasin Gishu collected Sh18 million less at Sh524 million.
On the flipside, Mombasa grew its revenues to Sh1.9 billion from Sh1.6 billion, while revenue receipts for Kisumu remained unchanged at Sh776 million.
Bomet grew its revenues 88 per cent to Sh197 million in the review period, Baringo by 10 per cent to Sh222 million while Bungoma’s receipts surged 61 per cent to Sh526 million."

I just love it how you've spelt out the revenues without saying much of this two countries GDP and population!

rvp20183:
Half year - from what you pasted few minutes ago is 196 (had wrongly transposed that to 169) - therefore it will end the year at 400B Naira - compared to last year -320B Naira. That seem reasonable growth of revenues.

400B Naira is slightly over 1B dollars per annum - in a "mega slum city" that collect sales, payroll, corp and other taxes plus so many other levies.

As for Nairobi. Once again you're just the usual dishonest Nigerian.

Kenya ran a UNITARY system of Gov. You ran a FEDERAL system of gov.

You have 36 states that can levy taxes (sales, corporation, payroll taxes etc). Our Counties are NOT allowed to levy taxes or borrow without permission of Treasury (so far none has ever managed to borrowed).

Now you need to learn to compare Oranges with Oranges. Not apples with Oranges. They are all fruits - yes but different.

For the sake of this debate - you can compare you Federal + State revenues - and our National Revenues + Counties. And that should settle this debate if you weren't an obstinate lying Nigeria like is your national culture.

When we compared kenya and Nigeria - 2017 - Kenya probably total to 16B internal revenues (excluding A-I-A) - while Nigeria total to 15B ( am adding 2B from all states IGR to Federal revenues of 13B dollars).

And most of it from OIL. Bottomline your COUNTRY is total crap. Remove OIL - and you are with Niger, Chad & Benin. Even our lazy Tanzania neighbour seem to be doing better - and you can see in the pictures

https://www.ieakenya.or.ke/downloads.php?page=1492081067.pdf

Here you go!

forgiveness:
Show me Kenya's revenue first. I want the data from a recognised and authorized regulatory body in charge collating data's for revenue, not one spying agent accumulating data's from intelligence and unable to give a comprehensive breakdown on the matter.

Do you understand? Good! I will not respond until I see it.