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Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 12:46pm On Nov 25, 2018
Ignore the guy once and for all. He's so ignorant to the bone marrow!
Kur17:
A rat is a meal, are you a cat?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 12:44pm On Nov 25, 2018
Who would you root for the presidential sit coming 2022?

Ok, this conversation is getting political, but who do you think will take us to the next level? I'm not a Luhya but I'd go with Musalia Mudavadi. Economic-wise,he is cut from the same cloth as Kibaki. He is a briilliant economist who I think will bring the much needed reforms that this country needs. Who would you personally pick ?
rvp20183:
Absolutely. You need 5 Matiangis/Michukis/Nyachaes/Rutos. Basically people with a commonsense approach to issues and who actually get stuff done. Otherwise majority of ministers think their jobs is to attend meetings, read a prepared speech and go back home. Others think their job is to churn out policy after policy after policy. What is lacking is implementation & the discipline to see through reforms.

I hope Matiangi after 1 more year in security - get shifted to Agriculture or Manufacturing. I think Macharia is also very good. But the two guys running food security & manufacturing have not yet owned the vision.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 12:25pm On Nov 25, 2018
It was a Game Changer indeed! The economy was young and greatly needed more learned individuals to run the country's affairs. It was sad that some years ahead,men who were known as the epitome of education brilliance such as the likes of Tom Mboya, Robert Ouko,Pio Gama Pinto among others were victims of political assassination! I just learnt of Tom Mboya, he deserves a wonderful sit in Kenya's and Africa's history! He was a true Pan Africanist and a true friend of the American teacher of morals Martin Luther king Jnr ! Tom Mboya,the president that Kenya never had
kikuyu1:
THANKS FOR THAT! Somehow none of us have even mentioned the Airlift WHICH WAS A GAME CHANGER! Lionessza6,in the absence of solid evidence I'll have to go with rvp20183. A number of Kenyans were in your unis and frankly weren't impressed with Black SA scholastics. These are friends and fam who attended UCT,Wits and even Pietermaritzburg,IIRC between 93-2010.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:05am On Nov 25, 2018
We need to reshuffle this cabinet. We need someone who will make things work in both manufacturing and agriculture. We can get Matiangi,look at what he did with the education sector and now with his recent reforms in our security and road.He may not be wearing fancy suits and acts abit egocentric but he gets things done. I love his passion,his impromptu visits to jkia to check if things are getting done. We just need people who will get things done. It's time the president gets tough with his cabinet ministers, Kenyans wants to see heads rolling! We shouldn't be pleased with a 6% economic growth and sit back !
rvp20183:
I also very optimistic but let's be realistic. Our manufacturing has gone down from 17% of the economy to 8% the last decade. Poor countries like Uganda and Ethiopia are starting to export finished goods to Kenya. We need to do a lot more here. I think Adan Mohammed knew what he was doing - but the miraa chewing guy now - is pretty much useless. The same with Kiunjuri & Wamalwa...to fix our food security....we must do what we did with energy...dump anything rain...and focus on irrigation schemes. That should be gov singular focus...not worrying about smallholder farmers issues (let counties handle those).

But good thing is that anti-corruption fight seems to be so serious - people are now pausing - before they dip their hands in public coffers.

But yes with or without - Big 4 agenda - Kenya economy will grow - it's on it's own momentum now - and GDP will certainly rise from 9 trillion Kshs to 15 trillion Kshs in 2022. You can already seem the amount of money getting wired through m-pesa - last year I think folks wired around 4.5 Kshs trillion (45B) through mobile money - that shows your the economy is very vibrant.

Anyway if gov delivers 0.5M housing at those prices (1M for 1 bedroom) and ensure nearly everyone has NHIF cover for both in & out patient and then continue to fight corruption & invest in basic infrastructure - I would be more than happy and Uhuru legacy will be more than secured.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 9:37am On Nov 25, 2018
Don't crush it just yet. Even just achieving 80% of it would be something. Of course ,you cannot expect 100% from this government. Then there is the blue economy, we can leverage from this conference to fund projects via PPP if our ministers get to have a good rapport with whoever will be attending this conference. This conference is big. Even the world Bank and the UN is buzzing about it. I can see manufacturing taking a new turn with industrial parks in Naivasha and Eldoret,don't forget of the Special Economic Zone in Mombasa . Big things have been planned but the implementation is key! Healthcare I'm certain about it. For food, get rid of Kiunjuri, there is no passion coming from that docket. Whatever happens, I always choose to remain an optimist ! Going by our projections from the treasury, they sound realistic and achievable!
rvp20183:
I don't see 2 of the big 4 panning out. Universal health care will certainy happen. 0.5 housing units is also going to happen - already gov this year will get 1B dollars plus from housing tax. Food security & Manufacturing - there simply no serious plan there.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 9:26am On Nov 25, 2018
He has just ruined his generator by placing kerosene in it instead of diesel. Well, I guess he'll now try rat soup in a bid to get it back to roaring!
Kur17:
We call it generator manenos, just go and recharge your phone
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 9:09am On Nov 25, 2018
This discussion has a winner already.
Fellow Kenyans,brace yourselves for starvation and Kibera pictures.

After Kibera is long gone. I wonder what our detractors will use as a 'comeback' against Kenya

It's refreshing knowing that the affordable housing scheme by both the national government and county governments will target slum residents

If the big four turns a success, we will be talking of more nicer numbers from sector to sector coming 2022!

I'm thrilled about the multi billion joint EU cooperation for term 2018-2022 period. Many partners and development agencies want to work with us. It seems more like a development scramble for Kenya's partners.A high ranking US official from the Trump's cabinet will soon tour us, what do all this people want? I hope they don't make us their 'Africa's favourite pet ' grin

Let's hope this cash injection into the economy will turn about to be positive. With the EU in check, curruption fears should not be a thing to think of!
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 8:49am On Nov 25, 2018
But but they said it's nutritious !
mtisTheQubit:
Was happily having my breakfast but now am not so sure cheesy
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 8:44am On Nov 25, 2018
I got you. I guess he's just tired of his native country that he's using SA as a platform for throwing jibes at us. Miserable fella he is !
mtisTheQubit:
The guy is a Nigerian..discuss only Nigerian issues with him..deprive him the SA connection coz that his life support..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 8:39am On Nov 25, 2018
They never starve. Pounded yams,fried frogs,snails and rat stew is in plenty!
NairobiWalker:
They're not my brothers though. Anyway, when are you guys having a starve-free Nigeria?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 8:35am On Nov 25, 2018
7.2 m . That's alot actually. Whichever way you look at it. It won't surprise me if Runalong is in the lot of the infected!
rvp20183:
HIV Status - South Africa, Kenya, Nigeria & Tanzania
Kenya has highest number of people under ARVs - even more impressively on children on ARVs.
New infection in Kenya & Tanzania is very low.
South Africa still have nearly 1/4 a million new infection annually.
Nigeria - although HIV is not a serious problem in west africa - it appears epidemics is just starting.
https://www.avert.org/sites/default/files/styles/article_scale_style_780/public/Tanzania%20updated%20August2017_0.png
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Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 8:33am On Nov 25, 2018
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 8:30am On Nov 25, 2018
grin
NairobiWalker:
He's ashamed of his own country. In South Africa he found heaven. grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 8:12am On Nov 25, 2018
Where did I 'attack her'? Might as well prove it!
Runalong333:
Did she ever ask you to prove it ? grin. Didn't she say " Yes you guys are doing better in basic education , and we are looking at taking at pointers from you, Germany, Japan, Ghana etc" ?. Where did she dispute that ?. But little men you couldn't take a complement you had to attack her for nothing . All she said was can you show me your educated numbers at independence till 94, what was your answer ? grin. " our basic education is better than yours " grin. And you kept on going on about how stupid they were grin. Funny Kenyans.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:58am On Nov 25, 2018
You are just creating a mountain out if a molehill

Blowing things out of proportion I'd say. On education,we provided our facts. It seems that you have nothing to hold on apart from that. You are just a Nigerian glory hunter who hides behind South Africa seeking refuge!
Runalong333:
Ok . Go to the South African embassy and lecture them about their stupidity grin. But it still wont change the fact that your little ego got really bruised and now like a btch you are lashing out grin. We know you never saw the events of yesterday coming like the arrival of kazikazi, you were taken by surprise grin. Heal brother, telling us about all the ills of South Africa wont salvage your fractured image , you are even embarassing your compatriots grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:49am On Nov 25, 2018
Still hiding behind the skirts ?

We might as well ignore this guy. He has nothing to stand upon except 'yesterday's events'
Runalong333:
Hahahaha i knew you would do the usual dancing around. We know you are still pained by yesterday's events between you, 10 other Kenyan men vs one South African girl who embarrassed you till you had to recycle old news grin. The painment that lady brought upin you niggas will stay with you for a long-time grin grin. Have millions of other sick Africans in your door step and we can talk about how successful you are , for now you are just taking out of irrationality and anger ( a need to get back at South Africa) grin.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:47am On Nov 25, 2018
They'll meanwhile be googling what 'smoking gun' actually is instead of addressing my question!
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:44am On Nov 25, 2018
So Nigeria produces ten times more revenue than Kenya from sector to sector. But the one million dollar question remains ;

Where is the superior budget? Where are the crazy billion dollars that Nigeria forks from her sectors? Where is the mammoth of a budget that they are supposed to be showing us?


This guys are living a lie! If it be that we are telling a lie, then give us the evidence. Where is the smoking gun? Where is the evidence?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:39am On Nov 25, 2018
He is probably a ladyboy. You may not want to Google that!
gallivant:
You are still asking for help from the South African girl? Where are your balls?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:27am On Nov 25, 2018
The guy chats absolute bollocks! He's using South Africa as a soft landing pad because Nigeria is as good as dead!
NairobiWalker:
Guys, leave South Africa out if it! He is Nigerian, let him speak for Nigeria. If you want to discuss South Africa, do it with a South African.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:25am On Nov 25, 2018
Is the guy on a Rand paycheck?
NairobiWalker:
We beat them in every single standard of life index. No wonder he can't defend his own country he's all over kissing South Africa's butt.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:21am On Nov 25, 2018
FFS! Looks like the Nigerian South African Nyaope selling fella is out here again with his usual blabber. So if they have a huge migrant population with HIV,how is it our problem? Let them deal with it, we've got our own issues to deal with!
Runalong333:
Kenya is a rural country, most of you still walk miles to get water , why won't you live longer? grin.

Hahahaha not even America has defeated Hiv let alone Uganda and Kenya, stop embarassing yourself. What your lazy and envious behind doesn't understand is that South Africa counts everyone who benefits from their system that includes immigrants, Kenyans included . As someone who is involved in the healthcare system in south Africa, I know the kind of pressure their health system is under, and the millions of immigrants from across Africa and South Asia that are on ARVs. I don't know any other African country that has to carry that load on it's back. Who goes to Kenya and Uganda for better healthcare ? grin. You are on the top 5 of the countries affected yet you have no one invading your system grin, imagine if you had 10 million immigrants with a large percentage of them living with hiv , your system would collapse within days .
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:17am On Nov 25, 2018
They just don't get it! But facts will remain being facts!
NairobiWalker:
Why don't you practice what you preach? You're here saying we are starving yet your country has the fifth lowest life expectancy in Africa. Even wartorn Somalia is ahead of you grin

Like RVP said, according to global hunger index, Nigeria and Tanzania starve more than Kenya. grin
https://www.globalhungerindex.org/results/
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 4:04am On Nov 25, 2018
''Nigeria economy is supposed to be the biggest in Africa. But, we are the lowest, both in per capita budget figures and in absolute terms. Nigeria is in the middle among South Africa, Algeria, Egypt and Angola.''

This was quoted from https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/249059-2018-nigerias-biggest-budget-yet-meagre-compared-angola-south-africas.html

With 197 million people ,you shouldn't be having a budget lesser than Kenya's. If all those sectors contribute bigger amount of revenues to the Govt, where is the bigger budget that Nigeria should expect to have?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 3:53am On Nov 25, 2018
A meme doesn't change the fact. Die at 53 years! This explains why your country is a cesspool!
NigeriaIsDoomed:
Clowns who can't win starvation and hunger are opening their gutter mouth to spew trash as usually. These miserable fools are irredeemable I swear.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 4:28pm On Nov 24, 2018
This was harsh!
TayserMahiri:
How is that related to you being a mole? Address your Least Developed Country, Heavily Indebted Poor Country status in this thread. You are like that hated child from a poor family that constantly wants to roll with the kids from well off families.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 3:55pm On Nov 24, 2018
FFS! This Kazikazi guy is an utter daft! He now says that a girl has turned against us. What's the big deal with it?

Is Nairaland a dating site?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 3:48pm On Nov 24, 2018
Olympic medals I said ? Olympic medals ! Even in those junior championships we have won more than you !
Kazikazi:
A certain cow said Tanzania never won any medal!
FYI,Tanzania don't like a poor man's sport.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 3:44pm On Nov 24, 2018
There is no need of people throwing their toys out of the pram

Let us get back and discuss 'real issues'

Fact of the the matter is, Nigerians haven't addressed what I and rvp have raised about their economics ! Their revenues from sector to sector just don't measure up to their GDP! Their budget too isn't in tandem with their GDP!

This guys are cookers of data !
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 3:39pm On Nov 24, 2018
Keep the search results to yourself and move on!
NairobiWalker:
I did. grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 3:37pm On Nov 24, 2018
He sells Nyaope !You might actually want to Google that!
NairobiWalker:
He's probably a houseboy in South Africans house in Soweto. grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 3:34pm On Nov 24, 2018
You've never acknowledged your shortcomings. We've been admiting that all along ! You've actually been the opposite calling yourselves the 'Giant of Africa'

While in the truth you are actually not!
NigeriaIsDoomed:
We are no pussies like foolish starving kenyans, we acknowledge our weaknesses and strengths.
Your question gets an answer the day you become a man. grin

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