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darkchild64:
Well u quoted the bible so I chose to assume u are a christian,you don't often see non christians quoting the bible,clear me if I'm wrong

MuttleyLaff:
My point is you cant just like that conclude he is a christian basing it on him making Bible references or mentions

Icon4s:
I know a good number of Yorubas that bear both names as English names. Although u right ,they are actually rare compared to most other Nigerian ethnic group.

Meanwhile come to Niger-Delta where you will see names like: Shell Manager, Chevron Giant etc.

vaxx:
You guys are really close minded, You never give room to other alternative. I keep on saying it that the physical universe is enough evidence for God.

Lets look at this perspective.....

Is fire and water a living thing? ""Disclaimer "" i fully understand fire and water are not living things. But however i am going to give it a shoot.

Fire and water both constituted of basic units. Fire is nothing more than a combustion reaction, and the resulting flame is the visible manifestation of the reaction. The intense heat of the fire vaporizes the fuel source, and, as the vaporized fuel interacts with air particles (free atoms and molecules), a glowing flame is produced. The glow is light emitted from the exited electrons of the air particles. In other words, the basic unit of a flame is the particles of air. Those particles can be thought of as a type of cell, the basic unit of the existent flame. Water is also composed of basic units. These units are called molecules, and they are of the form H2O (hydrogen and oxygen.

Water is the source of life, that most of the animate lifes depends on. It seems paradoxical, how can inanimate become a source of life to animate object? But that is the wonders of universe. Infact the major source of life are inanimate (Air, sunlight and water)

God can actually be an inanimate object, yet still still remain a source of life to everyone .

jesusjnr:
I can see the level your frustrations has gravitated to, for i'm very certain it didn't begin this way but this is the product of the culmination of your frustrations towards God in this respect over a long period of time.

Next thing it would be that you directly want to work for the devil, to crown all your frustrations and rage in this respect!

I can emphatize with you to an extent, because I walk with God, and frustration is part and parcel of man's walk with God on earth! If you doubt me, you can ask Noah, Abraham, Moses, Job, David, Elijah, John the Baptist etc., and you'll see that frustration with God was something they all had in common.

I mean when you have a certain John the baptist, who was so sure that Jesus was the messiah for whom he was sent to prepare the way, that he said with full confidence of him, "behold the Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world", but would later now send people to ask the same Jesus, "are you the one that was to come or shall we look for another?" then you would understand that the difference was frustration.

But even if we assume that it was because they were just men who inherited the condemnation of sin from Adam, then what about Jesus the only begotten Son of God, who had no such condemnation but also asked God out of frustration, to take the cup away from Him, which of course God didn't oblige him. And then when He was on the cross, also asked out of frustration, "My God My God, why has Thou forsaken Me?"

So certainly frustration is very integral to man's walk with God, hence anyone who doesn't expect to be frustrated in this respect should not even bother entering in, otherwise you'd only see yourself starting a journey you are not able to finish.

Perhaps that's the only difference between those of us who make it, and people like you who give up, the fact that such frustrations didn't stop or deter us, but only made us stronger in who we are, and what we believe in!

By the way in your post at the beginning of this thread you said you asked a question when you were still a child which you didn't get an answer to, I don't know if that's still the case. But if so you should understand that Adam was said to have also had daughters(Gen 5:4), and then it was not unusual if one married his blood sister, and then also take into consideration their average lifespan at the time, meant that someone could marry someone five hundred years their junior or even more. So if Cain had married, he could have married any one of them!

darkchild64:
Enough said,u guyz are derailing this wonderful thread,Op do something unless u want ur thread to die off

Jarus:
Lie.

No matter how brilliant you are as a student, no multinational company will offer you as a fresh graduate an official car + official house.

Th best anyone could get no matter how brilliant is a job offer as entry level.

And no multinational has time to treat any student so specially that he would access their medical clinic even as a student.

We have heard of many extremely brilliant students, record breakers, some even had 5 points all through, in top schools, none of them ever got this type of personalized treatment of Fred and their records were already front page news everywhere.

You added too much salt to it. [b]You could have just stopped at "he got scholarship from a multinational" [/b]which is the best even national record breaking students got.

LordReed:
Research that confirms an already subsisting observation is not really that impressive is it?

budaatum:
This would apply if I were intending to convince you that gods do not exist, which I am not. Same way I wouldn't be wasting my time trying to convince you gods existed if I felt they did. I wouldn't believe gods exist, I would know they existed, and if you don't know they did, I'd just pass you off as a deluded ignorant fool. After all, I'd hardly accept that I was the deluded ignorant fool and accept my existing god does not exist!

But the evidence has been peer reviewed. I after all reviewed it, or don't you consider me a peer? Unfortunately, personal bias gets in the way of reviewing such stuff. Gods are one area where the rules of objective reviews are not accepted. I can't train your mind to be objective I am afraid. But just consider what has happened to all the gods that exist no more. Did they stop existing, or did they die in the minds of those who believed they existed?

As I said, gods exist only in the minds of those in whom they have been created, so it would be irrational for me to try to convince anyone that what exists in their minds does not exist in reality. The evidence is however out there that all the gods that have ever existed are human creations, and everything the gods have been claimed to be responsible for, more suitable reasons now exist. You just have to approach it with the mind that allows you to realise that fact. There was a time, after all, when Aphrodite lifted up her hindlegs and women got pregnant, but nowadays, we know that sex has something to do with birth, and Aphrodite is more or less dead.

To me, a person who believes gods do not exist, is an agnostic, as in someone who does not know, which may suit some, but if you really want to get off the fence, clean out your mind and consider the evidence objectively.

LordReed:
The point is that there is no evidence to present for the existence of a god, just like there is no evidence for the existence of elves and goblins. The certainty is about the same, which means although we can't be 100% certain, the lack of evidence is loud and telling.

budaatum:
Gods do not exist outside the minds of those in whom they are created.

You've heard it now, and I have held this view whilst living in Nigeria, and in fact, developed it there through extensive research. If gods do exist, people wouldn't claim to believe they did, they would know they did, but I'm sure you'd have realised most people believe gods exist without actually knowing.

vaxx:
This is flawed excuse, the discussion can be initiated by either of them.

Using your logic.

Atheist .....ehy emeka why do you pray before you start attending to customers?

Believer.....mr nanmdi , i need to talk to god first befors any other human. God first you know.

Atheist.....how do you talk to god that does not exist?

Believer.....how do you know the God i am talking to does not exist?

You can see from this scenario, it is atheist that initiated the discussion and come up with the statement that god does not exist. And logically, it is reasonable for the believer to ask for the evidence of that statement.


Hope you understand now.

vaxx:
It isn’t. A burden of proof is only required when there is a dispute which cannot be easily resolved and where there is a need for an answer one way or the other. So burden of proof lies on the persuader, either be it believer or not.

If someone I don’t know, let’s say seun , were to come to my house and try to persuade me that I am deluded for believing in God, I would be quite justified in adhering to the position that the burden of proof would be on him as the person seeking to persuade me of his superior argument. If he failed to discharge the burden of proof I would carry on with lifestyle.

At least "" the God delusion "" written by Richard darwkin was an attempt to prove god does not exist. Even your own thread is base on the same premises.

daveP:
Sir Joe, I no go lie you, it was tiresome. lol

The chances of seeing Pep and Drills Mad Nacho like 60tes per day was so so high cos of him


At least Nacho Don comot no, we want connect dey hear drills again? I no go gree.

daveP:
You still dey on this "wait and learn" stance? Lol.

LOL. You remember the evergreen 'drill' argument?

terzurum5:
Chaiiiii see promotion, progression,

Icon4s:
Voting still in progress.

43 peeps have done nominations thus far.

Joseph1033 , Terzurum5, TheGoodJoe, Forgiveness, BascoVanveli, Krattoss,Tbaba1234, Andrew444, Kog45, enomakos, and others, you are yet to nominate. We nova see una hand o.

Icon4s:
Thank you everyone that has responded.

With 20likes and 0 shares it means we have a unanimous decision here, so no time to waste.

Next we go ahead and make nominations of Players Selection Committee members.

Please I crave the involvement of everyone in the house, including those on ghost mode.

Remember the three rules for nomination of Players Selection Committee members
1. You are to nominate one person
2. Do not nominate yourself
3. Do not nominate twice.

Ladies and Gentlemen the floor is open.

safarigirl:
stop being an idiot. And don't you ever quote me to tell me to shut up again, did you buy data for me?

I did not see what he did. I did not see what anybody did. I did not see the match and I only came online this evening



See, I wrote my last paper today and I am officially a graduate. Don't provoke me this night with your idiocy, innugo?


You should shut up and congratulate me.

Jarus:
I'm not a public figure like this man, but I also get this reaction.

A couple of people that knew me well also get disappointed when they see me use public transport.

I don't believe it takes anything away from me. I have a good car and other things, but I don't have anything to prove to anyone. Why will I pay 2k for Uber from Ajah to VI where N200 will also take me there via BRT.

TATIME:
This is a wonderful write-up,and i must congratulate you for having the heart to speak out from the deepest part or your soul. You and i have something in common and that is being inquisitive! I started asking questions when i was about 11,my father will take US (my siblings and i) to Church every Sunday, holding me and my junior brother by the hand and crossing the busy roads of Ebute~Metta only to join some people to sing and clap for Jesus! So i asked him one faithful day "Daddy how many Jesus there is?" his response "Just One" :me~"are all these Churches in our street(pointing to churches in our street) also for the same Jesus?" his response with enthusiasm "Yes!". I paused for a moment so he asked "anything my son?" i reluctantly asked "If it's the same Jesus, then why can't we just join those calling him next to US rather than going through all that stress and risk?". There was total silence as if something happened because everyone was laughing at my first and second question but the third question was followed by a surprising decorum! This question continued lingering on my mind till i became a Muslim and one day i met the TRUE Christians, then i got the right answer Today i can answer any question about life with the aid of the Bible,i realized my parents weren't Christians but "misinformed churchgoers" that's why they were not able to answer thought provoking questions! Now i know what Christianity truly means and i'm glad i finally got it. Proverbs 2:1-5

Icon4s:
Ladies and Gentle Men of the House. Today na my Born Day o.

Happy Birthday to me.

And as part of Celebrations to mark my Birthday I will agree to call for invitation of any player mentioned here today. So for today ''they are all there''
Plus no arguments on any issue. I agree with everybody's opinion until 12AM 1st October.