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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 2:53pm On Oct 10, 2015

TheGoodJoe:
It is not because of Enyeama's lateness that Oliseh gave Musa the ban. It was already a made decision. Oliseh knew Enyeama traveled to bury his mom.

Sothe question is what is the reason Oliseh dropped Enyeama. That is what Enyeama wanted to ask Oliseh.

Please read Colin's account. Oliseh is under no obligation to tell Enyeama the reason WHEN Enyeama wants, especially in the presence of all the players. That's being rude.

Politics › Re: Salary And Allowances Of NASS Members Revealed At Last - Vanguard by joseph1013: 2:13pm On Oct 10, 2015

Sagamite:
Soni Daniel of Vangaurd Nigeria!

Another fuuktard Nigerian journalist.

What is revealed at last? All the things this cretin is talking about have been publicly available for years. If the quacks like this cretin just knew how to google (this is not even investigative journalism), he would have known.

I have had this details on my laptop for at least four years, only to read this cretinous product of a failed education system come out to say "revealed at last".

Worse still is the cretin is calling loans "take home".

Also I wonder were this moronic fuuktard got his US legislator's earnings from.

From his arsse?

Where is a US Senator making $3.4m dollars a year?

Who is employing these fuuktards as Journalists?

This cretin is even called an "Editor"?

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We're fvcked in this country!

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 9:50pm On Oct 09, 2015

Colin Udoh provides the most balanced view yet, and he is VERY close to Enyeama.

http://www.colinudoh.com/2015/10/behind-olisehenyeama-face-off.html?m=0

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 8:47pm On Oct 09, 2015

lexyman:
Dunga said it in one of his interview before he got the job of Brazilian , that when he become d coach of the Brazilian , he will string Dunga of his captain-ship cos he behaved too big for the team. As soon as he got the job , the first thing he did was to choose a new captain .

But mind u , in terms of attitude off the pitch and on d pitch Neymar was not closed to being the captain ...but he has got the skills , the ability , and d positive attitude to winning the game .

Nice one Joseph u re being sport on !

I very much doubt that. I will appreciate a link. Remember that Silva too was angry after the game. He was angry but still maintained his cool. Dunga still didn't backed down and kept saying that there was nothing special about Silva.

Infact, Dunga lacked class in that drama. See what he said about Silva:

"I don't think an ex-captain exists. A team captain, will always be a team captain. Because things in life change," Dunga said.

That was classless. But Silva didn't let hell erupt for being so disrespected. He didn't retire for that. That's a leader, right there.

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 8:40pm On Oct 09, 2015

Danycrusoe:
See The Atmosphere And Social Lifestyles Of Brazilians And Nigerian Are Different. That Silva Didnt Make A Fuss Out Of It Doesnt Mean Enyeama wouldn't, They Are Two Different People With Different Social Lifestyles. Silva And Enyeama Are Not The Same, The Coach Should Know That The Ego Will Always Be There.
Now Let Me Ask A Question, If The Same Thing Was Done To Oliseh(He In Enyeama Shoe) Would He Have Taken It Lightly Too? I Seriously Doubt It, You Can Prove Me Wrong Thou

No matter your temperament, if youre wrong, you're wrong.

If Oliseh was in Enyeama's shoes, I would blame Oliseh. You've forgotten that this has happened before. That was what stopped Oliseh and Co from going to the World Cup in 2002.

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 7:23pm On Oct 09, 2015

Danycrusoe:
If The Brazilian Coach Can Easily Transfer The Captain's Arm Band From Thiago Silva To Neymar Easily Without Noise Then I Dont See Why Mr Sunday Should Find It Difficult To Follow Suit. The Coach Has The Right To Change His Captain But He Most Do It With Sense Without Hurtn The Former Captain.
The Deed As Been Done No Need To Cry Over Spilled Milk. However Everything Should Be Put In Order Before Swaziland cum n Make A Bigger Fool Out Of Us NB: No One Should Expect A Win Against Cameroun Infact We Should Be Grateful For A Draw, A Win 4 Us Would Be A Shocker BECAUSE OLISEH NOW RULES OVER A DIVIDED HOUSE

That example is GREAT to exonerate Oliseh. Dunga never informed Silva that he was removing him. He never did. He just got into the dressing room and realized that Neymar was given the band. It was alot worse than what Oliseh did.

Yet Silva didn't see the captaincy has his father's property to make noise at. He respected the decision, kitted up, and walked to the pitch to play the game. That's a leader. He know it's not by title or braggadocio.

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 7:17pm On Oct 09, 2015

TheSuperNerd:
Hahahahahaha..... Nice. But you see Sir...... Psychology in this case is of the simple kind not complex.

So it's very easy to deduce that Oliseh simply "never had it in mind to tell Enyeama privately".

If he had it in mind....... He would have done so much earlier....... That's simple psychological truth.

In fact Oliseh would have mentioned such( that he meant to tell Enyeama but he was beclouded with thoughts) in the interview to further back up his "innocence" BUT HE DIDN'T!!!!!!! Meaning he never even considered doing such........ So as a result Sir......

Oliseh is indeed at fault also.......*smiles*

If that's the way to go then when we watch Enyeama's video, we can say infer alot of things. For instance, we can infer that Oliseh called the security on him. We can say Oliseh didn't care about his many years of service for the nation. Clearly wrong deductions!

So that Oliseh did not mention it when it was not expressly asked is not enough to say he didn't have the intention. How many minutes was the interview? From simple inference, all that was in Oliseh's mind at the time of the meeting was expressing his displeasure at the players for their lackadaisical approach to training.

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 7:10pm On Oct 09, 2015

BascoVanVeli:
U missed my point i don't take either side as the gospel truth. You keep blaming Enyeama like u don't know the man's judgement was clouded. He was a walking bomb set to blow up. His mother was his world.This is not hard too understand.

Exactly! Enyeama was simply emotional. You could imagine that that night, they clarified things and things were going on well only for Enyeama to go on Instagram and bring his mother to a conversation that never involved her at all. That's what's called currying emotional favours. And it achieved all that Vincent intended because there is no one that would see that post and would not identify with him. Dude even put up several crying emoticons on the post. Something that had raised when he had issues with Oliseh. Very childish.

On purely emotional terms, my heart goes to Enyeama. On rational, looking at what happened from different sources, I am tilting towards Oliseh.

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 6:49pm On Oct 09, 2015

TheSuperNerd:
Sir, I do get what you are saying. But I'm speaking Psychology here..... "Basic psychology".

Things that could have been done to avoid lighting the fire that have caused such a "chain reaction" as we're currently witnessing.

Nothing stops Oliseh from even meeting him earlier than I suggested..... Like even during training. Losciuto could always handle the team for a few moments. BUT OLISEH SHOULD HAVE DONE WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.

OK.... He focused on the team's poor display in training right? coz he prioritized that... Now look where it has brought the team.

A leader is one who leads, influences and inspires.

A "good" leader is one who does more by acting his talks and walking the talk.

But a great leader is one who does much more by knowing "when and when not" to act for the good of his team.

Oliseh failed to "master" the art of timing and "nipping in the bud"

He cannot be excused........

Then that crucial art of timing was the undoing of Enyeama. Why ask why he was no longer captain in the midst of the players. Oliseh only owes Enyeama an explanation, why DEMAND for an explanation in front of the whole team. Isn't that in itself mischievous?

For all we know, we don't even know if Oliseh had planned to discuss it with him. And we may never know since the whole thing has escalated.

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 6:43pm On Oct 09, 2015

TheGoodJoe:
He was not expecting Enyeama? He invited him and had it in mind that he would drop Enyeama. Why not call him?

How did he have in mind to drop him? He asked all the players to be in latest by Monday afternoon, Enyeama didn't show up and he didn't call the coach. So the coach is at fault for not planning him into the game for that?

You ask why Oliseh didn't call him, I ask why Enyeama didn't call Oliseh giving reasons why he'd be unable to make camp on Monday. Isn't that what we all do when me miss deadlines or meetings or won't be going to work for one reason or the other? Isn't that just common courtesy?. Oliseh had bigger issues of sorting out lazy players and visa issues of the home players.

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 6:38pm On Oct 09, 2015

BascoVanVeli:
All i need now to go along with your story is evidence. Everything Oliseh said is heresay. Where is the proof that he did any of that. How can you say Oliseh was not expecting him, it was until the situation arose that he called up Dele. In the account i read Enyeama asked the NFF to be excused from the game and they begged him to show up but that also is heresay. This is what we do know, Our best ever goalkeaper buried his mother yet still made it to camp. Next is he was expelled, brought back and he later retires. We also know he was told to sit down in during a meeting in front of his peers. Our greatest ever goal keeper not only lost his mother but was degraded and forced into early retirement. Let me tell you something Oliseh is nothing but a shift manager. You can argue with them and its up to the real boss as to who was right or wrong. Like Messi and Ibra they both had rows with Barca coaches and it was dealt with individually, Messi got their surport and Ibra was shipped off. If im Oliseh and Enyeama asks to speak I say "Yes but make it short Vincent" would he have died if he said that? So all he claims he did was for nothing.

[b]See, you're free to believe what you want. I'm making comments based on the video of Oliseh and Enyeama that I watched. If you believe Enyeama's account and do not agree with Oliseh, then I have nothing to say any longer. Maybe you go ahead to ask Enyeama if they spoke about the burial, Pinnick if Oliseh nudged him to send a delegation and other players to see if they planned a minute silence.

Oliseh called up Alampasu because the home based goalkeepers did not get visa and as it was, Carl was the only guaranteed keeper in camp. Why didnt you ask why it was after that that Ndidi was invited. Is Ndidi also a goalkeeper?

Nobody started out to disgrace Enyeama. He was the only trying to play a fast one on the coach by making him look stupid in the midst of the players.

I don't care about Oliseh as a coach. They can sack him tomorrow if they want. I don't like his selections and I have said that alot of times, so it doesn't concern me if he is a makeshift coach.[/b]

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 6:19pm On Oct 09, 2015

TheGoodJoe:
So Oliseh did no wrong. Do you know Oliseh has Enyeama's phone number. Are you saying Oliseh never had an opportunity to inform Enyeama that he is no more the captain. We are talking of the longest serving Super Eagles player here.

Oliseh should have called Enyeama that he was not expecting in camp that he wont be the captain against Congo? Someone he was no longer expecting?

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 6:13pm On Oct 09, 2015

TheSuperNerd:
Pls Stop this Sir! Pls Stop the subtle Bias..........

This is about "the Stability and chemistry" of the Team. Oliseh would have made out the time...... THERE ARE NO EXCUSES AT ALL FOR HIM.

ARE U TELLING ME HE "COULDN'T" FIND THE TIME?? THIS WAS A MATTER THAT COULD POTENTIALLY AFFECT THE PSYCHE AND EMOTIONAL BALANCE OF THE TEAM.............

Na wa o!

ARE U TELLING ME HE COULDN'T "JUST SACRIFICE" HIS TIME TOWARDS THE END OF OR AFTER THE TRAINING SESSION TO "SEE ENYEAMA"? A SIMPLE "VINCENT, PLS LET'S TAKE A WALK........." WOULD NOT HAVE STOPPED HIM FROM SAYING WHATEVER HE WANTED TO SAY TO HIS PLAYERS. HE COULD ALWAYS TELL THEM MOMENTS AFTERWARDS..........

But firstly and most importantly, he needed "to have seen Vincent alone"........ It's that simple!

I'm sorry Sir but Oliseh just can't be excused........................ He just can't........

If you watched the video, you'll see how livid Oliseh was with the team over the training they just concluded that evening. This was what was on his mind coupled with the inability of his home boys to get tickets. He said as much in the video.

If the issue of the captaincy was so important to Vincent, since he thinks long-serving captain means it is his birthright, and he sincerely wanted to know the reason without making Oliseh look ridiculous, he should have waited till dinner was finished and gone to Oliseh's room.

There is no chemistry if there are two captains in a ship. It was best for the team for Vincent to retire. I don't care if Oliseh is sacked, but on the issue, Vincent thought he could continue his spate of unrulness he's been known for. Guess, Oliseh was having none of that this time around.

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 6:06pm On Oct 09, 2015

TheGoodJoe:
Oliseh reached his decision long ago. The playersdidnot march from the training pitch to the dinner hall. Oliseh knew he would announce this. He should have called Enyeama aside. Ten minutes will not make the food cold.

Again, Musa was already made captain before Vincent got to camp. Vincent should have chosen a better time to ask for audience. Infact, he should not have asked Oliseh that question in the midst of the other players. That's questioning the authority of the coach.

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 6:03pm On Oct 09, 2015

TheGoodJoe:
You make it look like Enyeama is one small boy. Oliseh announced that Musa is the captain and you expect Enyeama who just heard it to keep quiet.

What stops Oliseh from given him audience?

OliseH is wrong here. The immaturity shown here trancends to other area. First dropping Enyeama for a flimsy excuse, he did not let Enyeama know that the captain band was stripped from him and then preventing him from enquiring why Oliseh dropped him.

Oliseh already announced who would be captain before Vincent got to camp. Asking for audience to resolve personal grouse in the midst of turmoil was the wrong call and Oliseh was right to shut him down and ask him to do it at a better time.

This is not the first time Enyeama is trying to undermine the authority of the coach of the Super Eagles. Ask Berti Vogts. Ask Siasia. Ask Keshi.

A legend status should not make you unruly.

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 5:56pm On Oct 09, 2015

BascoVanVeli:
Permission to talk? Courtroom? Army? Church? Nope they are just playing a game.
Vincent might have been childish but he gets a pass simple and plain. The man lost his mother how can you compare that to any regular work situation. In any real job the employee would be given time off. In any real job your boss won't strip you of ur title then tell you to sit down when you ask why. That situation should have been resolved before Vincent came in. Oliseh was wrong because he acted like an heartless human being. How can a man be going through such pain and his coach not be compassionate. Not once did Oliseh send condolences to Enyeama. Also Oliseh is Enyeama's coach not his boss. Like i said these are grown men they should be treated like such, at the end of the day you don't tell a grown man to sit down in front of his peers. Do unto others.

[b]When Oliseh expected Vincent on Monday and he didn't show up, he assumed he won't be coming because of the burial. Vincent didn't even see the need to call the coach to say he'd be coming in late. Of course, he is the big boy. No need for that. Coupled with the hassles of getting visas for the home boys, Oliseh had his hands full. So if Vincent wanted to take time off, it's on the cards. Oliseh was no longer expecting him. Oliseh UNDERSTOOD. Enyeama said so in his account.

And youre wrong. Oliseh sent his condolences. You probably didn't watch the video. They spoke about it and Oliseh regretted not making the burial. He even convinced Pinnick to send a delegation to the burial. They planned a minute silence in the match against Tanzania only for CAF to overrule it. So all these emotional outburst of heartless, callousness, wickedness and lack of compassion do not hold water.

Yes, in the National team, Oliseh is the coach. He is also the BOSS. Read the definition of a Boss to know why it applies in the Super Eagles' setting.

We can be emotional all we want, but here, I put the blame more on Enyeama for trying to undermine the authority of his Coach in the presence of the other players. Ask what Ferguson did to Beckham and Nistelrooy when they tried that with him. [/b]

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 5:45pm On Oct 09, 2015

TheSuperNerd:
I do agree Vincent has some "faults" but that was precipitated by Oliseh's also. You say Vincent was Childish........ Right? Ok then, no problem.... But Oliseh was childish too!!!

Why??

Here's why.... Oliseh had it all in his power to do the right, proper and courteous "thing". The ball was in his court "clearly"..... It was HIS MOVE to make.

Why.... Oh why did Oliseh not get Enyeama's attention when he arrived camp( not immediately but some time afterwards) and draw him away to a "private tete-a-tete" away from the eyes and ears of every one to break the news of his intentions and plans especially with respect to the Eagles' captaincy?? Why?? Come on why??

LOOK, WE CAN LOOK AT THIS FROM ANY ANGLE WE WANT OKAY BUT "THIS" IS MOST LIKELY THE ONE MOMENT THAT "HISTORY" WILL EMPHASIZE AND KEEP HARPING ON.......

WHAT STOPPED COACH SUNDAY OLISEH FROM LISTENING TO THE INNER VOICE OF REASON, "COMMON SENSE" AND COURTESY AS REGARDS WHEN AND WHERE AND HOW SHOULD ENYEAMA FIND OUT??

He "childishly" made the news public in a very disrespectful manner by telling Musa to "play the role as Captain" when the Ambassador came around...... PUT YOURSELF IN THE SHOES OF VINCENT. LET EMPATHY SPEAK NOW.

THAT ACT WAS A BIG "SLAP" ON VINCENT'S FACE AND REPUTATION IN THE TEAM.

You don't do that to one who HISTORY WILL REMEMBER AS THE BEST AND ONLY UNDISPUTABLY "WORLD CLASS" NIGERIAN PLAYER IN HIS GENERATION OF AFCON WINNERS.

Enyeama is bound to go down as Nigeria's greatest, finest, and most decorated Goalie of all time. Also he's been Africa's best for the better part of the last decade.

THIS IS "WHO" OLISEH REFUSED TO RESPECT WITH THAT SCENARIO WITH THE AMBASSADOR.

IF Enyeama had been told beforehand by Oliseh in a private and mild atmosphere..... THINGS WOULD HAVE BEEN WAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY DIFFERENT....... THIS IS THE WHOLE TRUTH.

THE BALL WAS "INITIALLY" IN THE COURT OF OLISEH...... BUUUUUTTTTTT....... "HE DID NOT PLAY IT WELL"

This is my submission.......

Vincent got to camp late on Tuesday and Oliseh had already chosen Musa to lead the team since Monday training. Vincent came while training was already going on and it was immediately after training before dinner that Oliseh called a meeting to chide the team about their non-performance in training.

How then would he have called Enyeama into a room to explained to him?

If oliseh's account is to be believed, and it tallies with the ones I have heard from reputable journalists and completesports, then there is little to fault Oliseh on without being unnecessarily sentimental and emotional.

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 4:44pm On Oct 09, 2015

TheGoodJoe:
The fact is that Oliseh is an NFF puppet. That is why he received three months advance to do things like this.

What is wrong in Enyeama talking. Oliseh madea big deal out of nothing.

We all know Goal Keepers have long careers. Look at Buffon. Oliseh's reason for stripping Enyeama of his captain band is flimsy. Especially when he is grieving. It shows how insensitive Oliseh is.

[b]Enyeama said he has something to say in a meeting Oliseh was presiding, and Oliseh told him no. Enyeama insisted. Are you saying Enyeama was right to have insisted even when he was not given permission to talk? Is that how organisations work? You insist on speaking in meetings with your superiors when you are not given permission to do so? Oliseh didnt say he should not speak, he only said that that moment when he was expressing displeasure with all the players for their poor training was not the right time to discuss personal issues. How can he insist?

Goalkeepers have long careers, yes! But Enyeama has always been telling us that he is going to retire soon. If Oliseh wants to starts us with another person as captain, I see no big deal. He is the coach. He should choose his team. If he fails, he goes. If he succeed, Nigeria wins. I agree with Oliseh on his choice of captain. He made very good points in this interview.

I see alot of people saying that Oliseh lied in this video. Interesting. So it's Enyeama's story that should be believed?

Everyone should watch the video before even making a comment. Vincent was childish.[/b]

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 12:49pm On Oct 09, 2015

safarigirl:
well, you have to qualify for these things to win them, don't you? Musa is part of Oliseh's 'selections', was he not 'selected' to be Captain? Criticising Oliseh's selections mean criticising Musa as captain. Not that Mikel or any right thinking person would collect such a tainted band.

Criticising Oliseh's decisions should not include casting aspersions on Musa's person. If maligning him tickles your fancy, nothing I can do. I'm done flogging this issue.

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 10:58am On Oct 09, 2015

safarigirl:
he gave him cuz he's 'consistent'....in missing goals. Mikel was easily our best player yesterday, even when Musa was on the pitch, Mikel was the obvious REAL leader. So, this potential you speak of? Certainly not in Musa. This is different from the Neymar-Thiago ish. Brazil fell once Neymar was injured at the WC, he was the obvious REAL leader over Thiago. The sooner Oliseh realises club football is different from national football, the better for us. Musa is not a captain and has no such potential, his absence wasn't even noticed

And nigeria will win the world cup if Mikel is made the captain? Or even win the next nations' cup? Bash Oliseh all you want, I have severally over his selections, but mocking Musa as the captain leaves a little to be desired.

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 9:38am On Oct 09, 2015

BascoVanVeli:
Sergio Aguero is injured and possibly out for a while. This might just be Iheanacho's time to shine or at least get more game time.

Yeah, just saw the highlight of the game against Ecuador now. That's crushing for City. Hopefully, Kelechi will step up, but I'm sure Bony will still get the nod ahead of him.

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Golden Eaglets (U-17) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 9:27am On Oct 09, 2015

Squad as listed on FIFA.com

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 9:10pm On Oct 08, 2015

Now that we've lost, I know Oliseh is in trouble. Truth is, hindsight is 20/20. LOL

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 6:35pm On Oct 08, 2015

safarigirl:
meanwhile Captain Musa is being reliably shitty. Na so we wan play Egypt abi? This will be a joy to watch. Oliseh was right indeed

That doesn't even come into the picture. Oliseh already gave the reasons why he gave the captaincy band to Musa. It makes sense. No one knows shitty. Everyone is a potential leader. No need to look down on him.

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Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 6:29pm On Oct 08, 2015

safarigirl:
are your sports journalists not biased? Is it guysly2much that is the sports journalist? Ex-players like Christian Chukwu and Garba Lawal already said Oliseh is at fault. Anyhow the story is, Oliseh phucked up

Yes, he is not just a sports journalist, he is a football journalist who has ears on ground in the U17, U20, U23 and Super Eagles Camp. He's won multiple sports journalism awards too. So again, he is a Sports journalist. Together with @muyiwalawal and @colinudoh, you will not find a better uptodate media person as it pertains to our national teams. So evidently, they are in a better position to confirm what happened in camp. If we take their stories on other issues at facevalue, why should this particular episode be different?

If it's by the people who support them, then Onigbinde also backed Oliseh.

Sports › Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 5:04pm On Oct 08, 2015

safarigirl:
According to @drteepie on twitter, this is what REALLY happened: cc icon4s, bascovanveli, thegoodjoe, terzurum, thesupernerd, joseph1013

I dont know this one and his account is at variance with what others who have always supplied us with inside info about team selections and camp happenings have narrated.

The dude is not even a sports journalist. How did he then know what REALLY happened?

Christianity Etc › Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 4:42pm On Oct 08, 2015

[b]THE BIBLE AND THE END OF THE WORLD

Nostradamus, John Wesley, Sir Isaac Newton, William Miller, Grigori Rasputin, Jonas Wendall, Herbert W. Armstrong, Jim Jones, Charles Manson, Chuck Smith, Pat Robertson, David Berg, John Hagee, Harold Camping and Chris McCann.

What do these folk have in common? They all gave a date, after careful study of the Bible, on which they predicted the world would end. Oh yes, and they all got it wrong.

This list of fifteen men is a small sample of the dozens who have made similar wrong predictions. Among these men you will see the brilliant, the dull, the devious and the crazy but they shared the opinion that the Bible is the word of God and diligent study would help us understand His plans.

Of course, the Bible famously does not give the date of the end of the world but it does give signs. Problem is, the signs are so vague that you could take almost any 50 year period and find the signs prophesied. That's why we have seen failed predictions from soon after the alleged crucifixion of Christ to as recent as yesterday (7 October 2015 from Chris McCann). The first known prediction came from Simon bar Giora way back in 66 CE.

The vagueness of these signs should be a red flag to us all but there is an even bigger red flag that's hard to miss. Jesus promised to return within the life-time of his followers (Matthew 10:23, Matthew 16:28, Matthew 24:34) but we've waited almost 2,000 years--not one but 80 generations have passed away, and still no Jesus.

Isn't it time to recognise the blindingly obvious? The Bible is not the word of God but the word of superstitious and ill-informed Hebrew tribesmen. And Jesus was not the son of a mythical god but, if he existed at all, was a Rabbi with some revolutionary ideas that struck a chord with his poor and oppressed congregation.

I can't help thinking of Jesus as more like a first century Pat Robertson than as the creator of the universe made temporarily incarnate. Robertson predicted the world would end in the year 1982. We shouldn't be surprised if Robertson messes up but surely, we should expect the creator of the universe to be right first time, every time. Shouldn't we?[/b]

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Christianity Etc › Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 8:22am On Oct 08, 2015*

WHAT CHRISTIANS FORGET

We are all horrified when we hear about parents sending their children on suicide missions. It happens but it's hard to imagine anything more despicable. When we hear that some Muslim parents consider it the greatest act of sacrifice to have their children die in suicide missions.

But what Christians forget is that their own God may have been the very first father to send his son on a suicide mission. Actually, God went one awful step further than any modern fanatical parents--his son was conceived expressly to undertake a suicide mission.

Yes, that is even more despicable.

A further step further? A good Christian MUST celebrate that act!

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Sports › Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by joseph1013: 6:19pm On Oct 07, 2015

AIG07:
The Enyeama I know won't utter those statement- he is not that rude. Pls verify ur source sir.

Interesting. You obviously know more than those present.

Are you aware that Enyeama once tore a query letter sent to him by the NFF and asked NFF to do their worst?

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Sports › Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by joseph1013: 6:18pm On Oct 07, 2015

homesteady:
I've been on twitter almost throughout today just to be updated with this case, you are the 1st person saying Oliseh tweeted what happened!
If he did, it would have been trending already, Enyeama gave a snippet of his story on instagram and within minutes screenshots were on twitter!

I just checked again now, he has deleted the tweets, so it will no longer be visible even if you retweeted it. Read my previous comments.

Sports › Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by joseph1013: 6:08pm On Oct 07, 2015

homesteady:
Oliseh last tweeted October 1st, he just tweeted 2 mins ago now!
So which Oliseh tweets have you been reading?

LOL...

He has deleted them.

Sports › Re: Oliseh Vs. Enyeama And The Impending Doom by joseph1013: 6:05pm On Oct 07, 2015

homesteady:
Oliseh last tweeted October 1st, he just tweeted 2 mins ago now!
So which Oliseh tweets have you been reading?

If you are on desktop, laptop or tab like I am, click "Tweets & replies" instead of just "Tweets". Do same for the others.

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