helinues:


Returnees from where they were sacked from earlier or a new place?

Emperor Hadrain sacked them in 70CE. People from various nationalities under Roman rule occupied Jerusalem and its surroundings.
Islam conquest of Middle East paved way for presence of Arabs in Palestine of today.

helinues:


Which land did their God told them to conquer? Was the land empty or already occupied?

Conquerors are owners of the land. Note that isrealiltes are also cannanites just like Philistines. Tribes of Philistine are no more. They were eventually destroyed by Neo- Babylon empire.

helinues:


Which home? Do they have one? Aren't they migrants? Settlers?

Which home? -isreal
Do they have one? Yes, isreal
Aren't they migrants? NO. They are returnees

helinues:
https://www.nairaland.com/6554054/god-estate-real-agent

The above thread is always relevant to this discussion cos that's the Genesis of the unending generational war between Isreal and Palestine

Isreal are a mere settler even in their own Israel state yet still occupying Palestine lands for over 70 years not to talk of millions of Palestines that have been displaced for decades.

Oh dear, what justification did Hamas have to have sent more than 5000 rockets to Israel on Oct 7 plus the infiltration of his terrorist men in Isreal border to Gaza killing innocent Isrealis including babies?.

Hamas killed less than 2,000 Isrealis while Isreal already killed 12,000 Palestines.

Both are evil set of people

Israelites returned to their homes after about 2000 years in exile. They met an ungoverned land of Isreal and reclaimed it. There has never been history of kingship or government in palestine since 70CE. Different empires governed the area directly.

[b]As part of the Islamic conquest of the Middle East in the seventh century, Arab peoples began to settle in significant numbers in the land. Apart from a relatively brief period of Crusader control, Palestine remained under Muslim control for just under 12 centuries, its population overwhelmingly Arab.
C. [/b]Internationalaffairs.org

The truth is hamas cannot achieve its aim through terrorism. The ony options for Palestinians are either full integration into isreal as a nation or stick to HAMAS ideology.

Catapault:
I have been studying certain Nigerian ethnic groups, and their clear links to China, Japan, Indonesia etc, are just stunning.

I don’t even know where to start.

I strongly believe that our ancestors migrated to Asia 2 to 3,000 years ago and founded the first empires there.

Check out this video that shows some incredible evidence. You will even see Nigerians speaking what sounds just like Chinese, and it’s their native language!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIYqtI3Ik30?si=5xPeRUD3TF1qlac6

Meanings are different. Nevertheless, all languages have a common root- Hebrew or Egyptian

guass:
Palestinians (Hamas) must be conscious of the reality that it's practically impossible to achieve a palestinian state through terrorism with Israel.
2023 is not the same as 1948, Israel is now loaded with nuclear weapons.

That is the point.

yarimo:
Under joe ajaero NLC is now union of Thugs claiming labour leaders

What about under Oshiomole?

Catapault:
Even IF Tinubu Was A 'Drug Lord', SO WHAT?

I mean, the way people talk about this 'drug lord' business..

Even if as a young man Tinubu dealt in drugs, that was a long time ago, and he was never convicted of any offence.

So WHY EXACTLY should that be held over his head?

I mean, the dude was Governor of Lagos state, and by all accounts, the best governor they ever had by an absolute mile, under whom the state, from anonymity, became the 5th largest economy in Africa.

If it takes a drug dealer to do that, then give us more drug dealers, please.

The previous 'SAINTS' who had led Lagos state into the gutter included military governors installed by dictators, and utterly useless civilian successors, apart from maybe Jakande and Marwa who tried a little.

Then came the JAGABAN.

Bobo Chicago.

City Boy.

Next thing you know, the entire Lagos State becomes a huge construction site, in an infrastructure drive that continues till today, with Lagos State racing far ahead of the rest of the country, under a succession of carefully selected technocrat leaders.

If it takes a former drug lord from Chicago to do that, and to teach you fcking moro.ns how to GOVERN YOURSELVES, so be it.

If Tinubu can replicate proportionally even HALF the success he achieved in Lagos state, as President of Nigeria, it would be worth it, and the entire nation will feel the difference.

So take all that drug bullshiit and GTFOH.

Even if he was a murderer as a young man., let us forget it even if one of your family members was a victim of his murderous activity, let us mive on because lagos is a huge construction site. He has tried.

iSense247:
1. Tinubu's surpporters rejoice whenever military or unknown gunmen kill people in South East but keep quiet whenever terrorists are killed in the North. We are talking about human lives that are not replaceable. We are not talking about sports or entertainment industry.

2. They see El-Rufai, Shetima and Ganduje as heros but belittle intellectuals like Peter Obi, Akinwumi Adesina, Chimamanda Adiche and Okwonjo-Iweala. To them, Politics and Religion are the only things that matter. Intellectual capability is a taboo.

3. They surpport Vladimir Putin's onslaught against Ukrainians but refute whenever Ukraine is having upper hand. It surprise me that Tinubu's surpporters also surpport injustice and bloodshed in faraway place.

4. They see a Northerner handling over to another Northerner as injustice but never see a muslim handling over to another muslim as injustice in a secular country. Worst still, they are even surpporting Muslim-Muslim ticket.

5. It seems they have been instructed to hate on Igbos as the only pre-condition of guaranteeing victory. You can't see Tinubu's surpporter who does not hate Igbos (even igbos who are surporting Tinubu e.g. Joe Igbokwe). They curse, abuse and insult the entire tribe at will.

6. They also support HAMAS terrorism.

Islie:


https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/640868-appeal-court-reserves-judgement-on-lagos-governorship-election.html

It is more easier for Peter Obi to sworn-in as president tomorrow than for Sanwo olu to loose the case.

Zionism is an antidote to islamism. Offsprings of Abraham are wicked.

Where are the Canaanites? Who are they? Definitely they are not arabs. Jews are also Canaanits.

zedegit:
I want to use this medium to raise awareness of how Nigerian Doctors always forget one instrument or the other inside a patient stomach and have the audacity to stitch up after surgery.

While this trend continues is because nothing serious is done to forestall this wickedness.
This act of negligence should come with serious punishment like life imprisonment and closure of that hospital to make others to get sense.

I have lost countless relatives and friends due to this wickedness of Nigerian Doctors. That's why people hardly go to hospital except for serious issues because danger increases anytime anyone visits a hospital.

Exaggeration.

rottennaija:

Irony is that US is willing to lose Billions of live before it loses her position as world power. They will have it.

US do not want global war for now. That is reason they have multiple bases around the world to serve as world police. Any country that wants to take job must be ready dethrone US violently with global consequences.

Adjovi:




The Russians in the donbass region invited Russia to help them. Russia responded to the voice of her people. What the donbass region wants is to be independent, why can't Ukraine grant them that? Russia even proposed the Minsk agreement and Ukraine was ready to sign, but UK prime minister Boris Johnson went there on behalf of NATO to convince zelensky not to sign and that they Will equip him militarily and support him which he did.

It is just like yorubas in Benin in republic inviting Nigeria to help them.
If Ukraine didn't sign nuclear proliferating agreement in early 90s, do you think Russia would fight them now. Russia broke the agreement. 1992, Ukraine was 3rd most unclear-armed nation in the world after Russia and USA.

rottennaija:


You mean US blood suckers like Biden, Tony Blinken, Victoria Nuland?

Including Putin, Zelensky, Iran leaders , Netanyahu and you for believing some billion lives should be wasted so that US would loose her position as a leading world power.

ivolt:

This must be a joke.
Hit hard with what, a 9-11 style attack?

That is what they can do. 9-11 style.

Adjovi:



Why didn't the world condemn the act then? Russia reported at the UN but they all turned a deaf ear to it. Then finally they wanted to admit Ukraine into NATO which Russia will never allow

Each sovereign nation should manage their affairs. The worst Russia should've done is to properly armed separatist groups to UA army. Putin goofed.

DomPerignon:



Hitlerism promoted the concept of the Übermensch which is basically a concept of the ideal superior man of the future who could rise above conventional Christian morality to create and impose his own values, originally described by Nietzsche in Thus Spake Zarathustra (1883–5).



Hitler even wrote against Christianity being a weak faith that promotes tolerance .


You know nothing.

Church did not denounce hitler. They even blessed his war effort. Hitler was a Christian just like you with hatred for fellow in humans. What do you know self.

DomPerignon:



And point out one episode where Christians killed Jews ?

You are lying that the Nazis killed Jews .

Even the Nazis were not Christian .

So give me just one instance Christians have massacred Jews ?

Just one.

Was Hitler not a Christian? Are you not a Christian with hatred for Jews? Murder and hatred are similar sin according to our Lord Jesus.

DomPerignon:


You know nothing.


Jews actively persecuted early Christians and were the ones who influenced the Roman Empire's anti Christian stance .

Nero, who killed more Christians than any other emperor was married to a jewess.

Then there is the bloody massacre and genocide of Christians by Jews in Jerusalem after the Muslim conquest of Palestine .

Over 70,000 Christians were ransomed to Jews who put them to death in the most barbaric way. When the Muslims found out about the senseless murders , they chased away the Jews from Jerusalem and renegaded on handing over Jerusalem to Jews and instead built the AlQasa mosque on the temple mount ruins.

Jesus didn't ask his followers to kill Jews. Did he? It is God that would punish Jews directly not you blood suckers calling yourself Christians.
Muslims are also killers. You are quilty as Jews you are condemning.

DomPerignon:


There was no 6million victims and the Holocaust never happened.

A simple search at the official Holocaust museum in Aushwitz will show you the figures are less than a million and most died from typhus or pneumonia.

The holocaust is the greatest fraud ever .

DomPerignon is a bot. He is not a person. What about that? It is easy to deny anything that doesn't suit your agenda. A corpse is just a log of wood analogy.

What was jewish population before and after the world? And now? What happened to missing millions?

DomPerignon:


Jews have hated Christians since the day Christ exposed them as Satan worshippers.

Evangelicals are literally cultists who worship Jews as if they are living semi-gods on earth and the key to entering Heaven. They also believe Jews are going to summon Jesus (totally not the antichrist) by creating the 3rd temple so we need to worship Israel also. They’re insane and incredibly stupid. The real blackpill is that the Majority of Christians here bought this bullshit and they genuinely believe it, it’s one of the greatest subversions of all time that isn’t talked about nearly enough. Anyways this isn’t a surprise at all.

Did Jesus kill any of them? But the so-called Christians killed millions of them. Nations are fighting over resources using religion as excuse.

Adjovi:



Y'all just talk about Russia Ukraine special military operation as if it started last year. This has been happening since before 2014 and it was Ukraine who started it . Y'all keep ignoring the part where Ukraine has been killing russian speaking people in the donbass region.

Why should Ukraine civil war becomes another country problem ? It is like Nigeria declaring war on Benin republic to fight for oppressed yorubas in the country? It doesn't make sense. Pro- Russian President v Pro- Western President. It is Putin’s imperial ambition that is causing the problem. Putin wants to upstage US. That is what it is.

rottennaija:
better than US continued hegemony and hypocrisy

Blood suckers and their supporters are the same. Billions should die to satisfy themselves. Goal of US is stop global war through early intervention in any regional war. Human history is about dominition, war and bloodshed. If you hate US hegemony, next hegemony might be worst. No hegemony would emerge after US-daniel prophesy. Russians are killing civilians in ukraine, Isreal are killing civilians in Gaza too. Russia claims right of land. Gaza claims right of land. Ukraine claims defense. Isreal claims defense. Who is right? Who is wrong? Proxy wars. Cold wars. It happened before. It is happening again.

Ms202309:
I still wonder what the fvck made Jews hate Christian

Hitler was a Christian. He orchestrated killings of 6M jews

rottennaija:


You made to valid points. Either WW3 or gradual decline of American empire. It seems they want to push for war? Either way, American empire is done. They go to war, they will lose, they wait, they still lose due decline. They can kick the can down the road all they want, it still will not stop. Their time is up.

The whole world would loose. Billions would die. Use your head.

rottennaija:


You know this western (now Israeli) propaganda was so much higher during the early months of the Russian Ukraine war. Then down the line, the truth started filtering in one after another until the NAFO bots were nowhere to be found.

Israel will be the same. And let me tell you openly, you have been on the wrong side of history twice.

Ukraine war is still on. Kiev is standing after 600 days of 3-days war. Isreal-Hamas war is just starting. Key Arab nations would not help Palestine course. And if you think Iran and Saudi would be united against Isreal then you are a joke. Saudi- Iran rivalry is cultural and political.

Many wars would still be fought around the world. Yes, proxy wars between eastern block and western blocks of world political hegemony. Ussr lost cold/proxy wars in 1990 after about four decades. US enjoyed hegemony for 30 years until 2021. Covid pandemic might be part of the game.
The point is that world superpowers want upstage themselves.
If you think Russia or China would overthrow US as a world political hegemony without a global war you are deceiving yourself. If ww3 begins, it would affect everybody.
Since Alexander the great conquest of Persian empire, no world superpower had emerge through conquest. Roman world power emerged through gradual decline of Greece after death of Alexander the great.
Roman empire also collapsed due to internal problems which paved way for emerging of British empire-largest one in history. Of course, US and of course anglophone worlldare extension British empire.
There are some fundamental issues.
1. Is Russia invasion of Ukraine necessary? No. There are many ways to checkmate Ukraine. Putin opted for war.
2. Could HAMAS be justified for attacking civilians and partygooers in isreal on October 7? NO!! Palestinians wouldn't achieve their aims through terrorism.

Bliss52:



David Hudeyen trying to stay relevant

Well most Private Jet in Nigeria are actually registered ofshore to reduce cost per year


You wish a first class accountant from OAU Ife(best Graduating student),son of Ibadan hero Adelabu Penkelemes, former first bank ED, one of the richest hotelier in ibadan Death

A drop out like David Hudeyen can only impress illiterate Ipob


Why does Peter Obi register his company in tax havens, British virgin islands, panama same reason


.

Face the real issue. Epa pa ara re o sope ohun n pa aja.

abhosts:
I hope all those Aluwe and Baba Suwe clowns that praised President Tinubu to high heavens when Naira gained for a few days would not move the goal post again. Please don't come back to blame Nigeria masses for not producing anything when the Naira swings back to the opposite direction.

It would crash on monday. Tinubu would work harder to stabilize exchange rate.

missimelda01:
So I get this awkward reaction when a man asks for my position in my family and I say I'm the first child. I really want to know what the issue is...is it just the bride price??

Are your siblings girls or boys? Boys are much easier to manage than girls. I think try to have independent thinking when conversing with potential suitors. They want to know if you can differentiate between necessary and unnecessary responsibilities.

It is called back- channel strategy to depopulate gaza and reduce Islamic influence worldwide.