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Politics › Re: 3 Months Ultimatum: Reno Omokri Mocks Northern Youths, Praises Nnamdi Kanu by jpphilips(m): 12:01pm On Jun 08, 2017
ezenwajosh:
A biafran will get all and more in 5 years if he loss all.....IF U THINK ITS A LIE ASK UR ELDERS HOW MUCH WAS GIVEN EVERY BIAFRAN DESPITE HOW HUGE U HAVE IN THE BANK AFTER THE WAR.....THATS WHY BRITIAN IS SCARED OF US NOT EVEN NIGERIA
Recycling lies doesn't help anyone, how many Igbos had bank accounts in 1967? do you know there was only 1 bank in Igbo land at the time and it was ACB? there was a pogrom before the war a period of roughly 1yr, how did Igbos survive without their money? common sense tells me they took out everything they had before their escape, very few wouldn't have done that.
So igbos really didn't restart their lives with 20 pounds, they had little or nothing in the bank, except for Ojukwu and very few others, ojukwu wasn't affected because he liquidated ACB before the war started, proceeds he used to fund the war in part, his father owned the bank in the first place that shouldn't be a problem.
Politics › Re: 3 Months Ultimatum: Reno Omokri Mocks Northern Youths, Praises Nnamdi Kanu by jpphilips(m): 11:47am On Jun 08, 2017
TruthisGOD:
Some people said they want out from this country and you're inclined to force them to stay. Did Britain force scotland to stay? What's wrong with the black race? Must everything be through gun barrel? Can we ever evolve to civilize human beings?
You think that an igbo trader in Onitsha having a bad buisness day can decide the fate of every Igbo in the country? are you that dvmb? you blame the black race but your thought process is "blacker than Black".
How many Igbos outside the SE want Biafra? don't you know there are more igbos outside the SE than those in the SE? who consulted igbo diasporans? You want to talk about civility when you reason like an Ape!
Politics › Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by jpphilips(m): 11:35am On Jun 08, 2017
thesicilian:
As a lay person I do not think secession should affect personal property unless the owner decides to leave his property behind and move home. That Biafra is now a separate country does not mean all Igbo's have to leave the North, West or South. I think it is just the barbaric nature of many Nigerians to reap where they do not sow that will make them want to take advantage of the situation to loot and force people out of their own homes.
You took pleasure in breaking Nigeria yet you don't want others to profit from your stvpidity? what kinda world do you guys live in?
Politics › Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by jpphilips(m):
Ogalanyachieze:
dont be ridiculous its an agreement with that individual and the govt not between the govt and the biafran govt. what about foreigners owning props in nigeria and vice versa. That apart if i should judge by your story how come the same govt they currently pledge to does not see them worthy enough to give them the said documents
Has it occurred to you that Nigeria can change their land use act anytime? You have to plan with the worse case scenario not assuming your adversary will show mercy at some point, if Nigeria makes property ownership a "citizen right" what are you supposed to do about that?
Taiwan did it to China, in fact, they just increased the Chinese quota of land ownership recently because china has installed a stooge in Taiwan, the problem most of you pro Biafrans have is that you subscribe to cable TV and end up watching just African Magic, you subscribe to the internet and end up watching p0rn with it.
if you have a clue the end of that biafran road, you will never dream of it. By the way, just because igbos left their properties for three years,
Niger delta seized all of them, what have you done about that? Abandoned property is an abandoned destiny, continue abandoning your destiny everywhere!!
Politics › Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by jpphilips(m): 11:15am On Jun 08, 2017
Ogalanyachieze:
yes and no. No if you have valid documents eg. C of O. Yes if that c of o gets revoked. As a simple rule states in the north and all over the sw do not give igbos c of o. Cos of fear of paying compensation to igbos. The big questios still remains why do we igbos foolishly keep building and putting landed properties outside our zones. Emeka built one room dem no give am ifeanyi built four rooms them no give am now chinedu come go build four deckings is that not foolishness igbo ewu nu - ojukw
C OF O is a tenancy agreement between the bearer and the Nigerian Government. If you denounce Nigeria, no previous legal agreement you have with Nigeria is binding, so the moment you accepted to Join Biafra, you have officially annulled your C of O.
The land use act of Nigeria placed land ownership solely in the hands of the State government, every Nigerian landowner is a tenant of the Government, the law only recognizes a form of compensation should the government have need for your land.
The law equally recognize that you can inherit lands and it is transferable as well, so definitely igbos with properties in the south east are so keeping theirs because Biafra is suppose to dissolve the existing state governments of its territories.

You will ask; what about foreigners who own landed properties in Nigeria? Most of them do so through Nigerian proxies except when such a person has been granted citizenship, though not illegal for foreigners to own properties here directly, in a breakaway situation, both sides are no longer friends as such they may change their laws to suit purpose, one of it is making land ownership or tenancy a citizen right, at that point, most Biafrans will kiss their properties goodbye!!

It is extremely f00lish to think Biafra is coming because a lvnatic said it over the radio, that is the only truth in the OP's question.
Politics › Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by jpphilips(m): 11:10am On Jun 08, 2017
Does stvpidity make one to lose his money? Why didn't you ask Nnamdi kanu that question before shouting "Biafra or i die"
Politics › Re: 3 Months Ultimatum: Reno Omokri Mocks Northern Youths, Praises Nnamdi Kanu by jpphilips(m): 11:08am On Jun 08, 2017
PedroJP:
Why crying on our behalf ? We didn't die after the 1967 that you showed your mastery in wickedness and mischief of looting our treasuries, how much more now.


For your info, stop making the mistake of thinking Nigerians will bring the war to Biafrans again successfully. It is not certain that your military you so much rely on will save you when the time comes.


Another war will consume Nigeria as an entity and Igbos will get what they want.
Ojukwu said the same thing but sighting the shock and awe arrival of the Nigerian troops, he started asking himself how much horsepower he needs to outrun Usain bolt, do you sincerely think the world gives a fvck what you think?
You are heading towards a very shameful death if you make any mistakes from now on. Do I really blame most of you? what are you even living for? people who hawk le casera in the middle of a highway truly have absolutely nothing to live for, the only rational question for you IPOB mongrel is; how do you want to die?
Politics › Re: 3 Months Ultimatum: Reno Omokri Mocks Northern Youths, Praises Nnamdi Kanu by jpphilips(m): 11:00am On Jun 08, 2017
greenermodels:
words of wisdom although i don't trust Reno omokri on a personal level.
How to achieve Biafra in ten years or less
1.Form a political party with self-determination and self-rule for Igbo people as a platform. United Progressive Party(UPP) may already be positioning itself to be that kind of a party.

2.Elect majority of the region’s local and state government officials from that party. This will solve the problem of who is supporting Biafra and who is not amongst the ethnic minorities around the Igbo area.

3.Have two-third of elected officials sent to Abuja elected from that political party. You will be sending a clear message across Nigeria and the world, and the agenda of these officials in Abuja will not be ambiguous.

4.Once two-third of all elected Igbo officials are from this political party with a platform that says self-governance and self-determination, a pseudo- referendum would have taken place.

5.The party can demand a regional parliament in Enugu to govern themselves, similar to what happened in Scotland and Quebec. At this point, the government in Abuja will concede to demands to devolve power from the center as they do everything to delay the inevitable.

6.After a few years of regional governance, if so desired, then demand a formal referendum from Nigeria. A referendum to leave Nigeria can take place in 6-8 years time.

7.If the referendum passes, Biafra can be a state of its own.
Is this the plan? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
It reads like those movie scripts we once acted as kids, how Nnamdi Kanu reduced adults to infants is still mind boggling.
Investment › Re: Photos From MMM Abuja Democracy Day Celebration ' by jpphilips(m): 9:46am On Jun 08, 2017
FX:
Do you know how many I have bought? You are a twenty-first century fool that's y u are narrow minded. You are following Forbes. Forbes is there making their money by telling u series of lies their liars told them , and you here are believing them. No rich man or woman on earth can tell you the whole truth of how he or she made the money. They will all find one business or job and tell u. Then you as a modern fool, you will believe and go follow them, then u will carry last. Rich men make money and remain rich by diversification. Go and ask Warren Buffet and Trump. They are into different kind of businesses both the ones you know and the ones you will never know till u die. Compound Ode !!!
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You are broad minded investing in ponzi scheme
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You are a 21st century wise man yet you have no idea what to do with money
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I wish the Fed could ban people like you from having sex so that this gene of stvpidity will die with you.

Crime › Re: Idongesit Udom, Exxonmobil Staff's Hand Amputated By Kidnappers In Akwa Ibom by jpphilips(m): 1:36pm On Jun 06, 2017
On lighter note, these old men are still holding on to the best jobs in the country yet people think the politicians should let go cos they are too old?
Phones › Re: How Do You Cope With GLO Data Network Frustration? by jpphilips(m): 12:04pm On Jun 06, 2017
jetroolowole:
I used Wifi in my office for my business but at home I use Glo data to browse. I know the Network is slow but in the past days it has really been frustrating. I have had to take my home based internet business to my office which is against my work policy.

If you are experiencing same poor data speed with Glo, how are you coping? Any other alternative? I am based in Lagos.
Even Mike Adenuga use an MTN line, continue wasting your money, the saddest part is that every month they see unused data in your account then 144 will call and tell you they have more data to offer you, i asked 144 in the past, do you ever wonder why everyone on your network have unused data? Glo 3g is 2.1kb/s, Grand masters of stvpidity.
Politics › Re: Nnamdi Kanu Should Be Arrested For Including Kogi In Biafra- Kogi Group by jpphilips(m): 11:42am On Jun 06, 2017
TsaTrinity:
Hmmm....after reading all the comments here, I've come to realise that IPOB accept Anything concerning biafra. Even if it's a lie. Can you imagine what all of you are saying? Kogi and Benue be part of Biafra? Since when? Am from kogi state and even if things ain't fine in the state, nothing will make Kogi join Biafra because they will be a minority group there and the Biafra govt will care less about Kogi and Benue. Is it not the reason why Biafra was created? Coz Nigeria cares less for you guys?
I respect the ideology of Biafra, infact assuming am the president of this country, I would let you guys go and knock yourself out but joining Kogi and Benue is No No. Am sure it's because of the oil found at the Anambra/Kogi border that they're been mapped out. So don't give yourself hope, call us pitiable, call us anything but Kogi prefers to be in Nigeria or Arewa/Oduduwa nation than Biafra
Little do they know that a barrel of oil is cheaper than a Denim jeans, do they even watch reasonable channels on TV?
Politics › Re: Nnamdi Kanu Should Be Arrested For Including Kogi In Biafra- Kogi Group by jpphilips(m):
osinbanjoisaliar:
I have said it before, and i'll say it again. Anything after ilorin and before bakassi penisula is biafran territory. Anybody that complains after actualization will find himself facing a firing squad. Whether you're yoruba, anioma, owo, egba, efik, tiv idoma or igala. It doesn't matter. Soon and very soon, you will all be called biafrans. Anyone that can't bear this reality can go to H**l.
So says the r@tard from the South East
Politics › Re: Nigeria’s Debt Rises By N7.1tn In Two Years - Minister of Finance by jpphilips(m): 11:01am On Jun 06, 2017
KahlDrogo:
Despite the drastic fall in FG income due to the near total collapse of oil prices at the international market, the FG still managed to check her borrowing, maintaining it at 3trillion in two years! That is absolutely commendable if you ask me.

The question therefore is, how did we end up owing as much as 8trillion under years of surplus earnings? We had oil selling at over $110 pb yet our debt profile (FG) was still on the increase. What logical explanation can President NOI and her vice, Jonathan, give as to why we needed to borrow to pay salaries when oil sold at $75pb?
The truth is that NOI and Jonathan are long gone and Nigerians have punished them enough, people like you are making a huge mistake using them as benchmarks, our debt is out of control, this is a huge problem, someone should be solving it, jonathan was dvmb yes, he is out so what next? make no mistakes, once you get to 30% of your GDP with sustained lower earning, Greece is already knocking on your door, do you have any idea the Austerity measures in place in Greece? can you live with that? if not, then Shvt the fvck up and pressure your government to control her debt profile.
Governance is not a contest, enough of this Jonathan nonsense!
Politics › Re: Nigeria’s Debt Rises By N7.1tn In Two Years - Minister of Finance by jpphilips(m): 10:46am On Jun 06, 2017
Our debt profile is scary Goddamn it!!
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by jpphilips(m):
laudate:
I wish I could dash you 100 likes for this post. cheesy Biko, nwoke m collect four criminally chilled bottles of the best set of drinks from Mama Onoja's shop at the next junction. cool Use it to unwind with your friends. May God increase the wisdom He has deposited in your life.... cheesy
Just imagine how that guy is bent on disgracing Igbos with his half education so sad, funny enough he thinks we are all yorubas, do you blame him? Don't waste your knowledge on a product of Nnamdi kanu's radio education, it is not worth it, we wait for them on the Global stage!! let me see how an okada rider will decide my fate in this country!!
Celebrities › Re: Chioma Obiadi's Open Letter To Donald Trump by jpphilips(m): 2:46pm On Jun 05, 2017
nazanwannem:
40th and reigning Miss Nigeria beauty queen, Chioma Obiadi, out of her compassion for humanity has written an Open letter to United States president, Donald Trump on why and how puling out of the Paris Climate Agreement will affect the Niger - Delta region in Nigeria.

According to her, whilst climate change is still far in the consciousness of the Nigerian people, it is a step in the right direction which social actors like hers keep promoting. She also disclosed it is her dream that Nigeria becomes more green conscious, and that citizens work hard to preserve our beautiful country.

"It saddened my heart when I listened to the news few days ago to hear that the United States (US) will withdraw from the Paris Agreement on climate change. Although, we all know that China has recently surpassed the United States in annual greenhouse gas emissions, the US on its own has produced 27 per cent of the total carbon dioxide emissions of the world as at 2011.

The worry thing about carbon dioxide is that it stays up in the atmosphere for a very long time. Enough time to cause the damage we all try to avoid for ourselves, our families and our countries. Hence, the US is a very important country when it comes to reducing CO2 emission, protecting the environment and as a hegemony, take the lead in the movement of saving the world from itself in this discourse. Indeed, for many years, the US has continually reaffirm its leadership in promoting peace in the world and specifically promoting the need to safeguard our environment against global warming. Withdrawing from the Paris Agreement is a mistake and I urge you to reverse your decision.

Apart from the Kyoto Protocol, a pivotal moment was reached in Paris in 2015 when 196 member states reached a consensus to adopt the Paris Agreement. The Paris Agreement is an agreement with the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) aimed at getting countries of the world to work together to mitigate global warming. Particularly, focused on enhancing implementation, Article 2 of the UNFCCC aims to (a) Hold the increase in the global average temperature to well below 2 °C above pre-industrial levels and to pursue efforts to limit the temperature increase to 1.5 °C above pre-industrial levels, recognizing that this would significantly reduce the risks and impacts of climate change; (b) To Increase the ability to adapt to the adverse impacts of climate change and foster climate resilience and low greenhouse gas emissions development, in a manner that does not threaten food production; and (c) To Make finance flows consistent with a pathway towards low greenhouse gas emissions and climate-resilient development.”. According to Ban Ki-moon, “For the first time, every country in the world pledged to curb their emissions, strengthen resilience and join in common cause for the common good,”

Even Nigeria through our President, Muhammadu Buhari and the former Minister of Environment, Amina Mohammed, signed the Paris Agreement in 2016. Whilst climate change is still far in the consciousness of the Nigerian people, it is a step in the right direction which social actors like myself keep promoting. It is my dream that Nigeria becomes more green conscious and that citizens work hard to preserve our beautiful country. The social movement in the US has been a shinning example and I really plead on your leadership to uphold the positive identity of the US as the world sees it… A super power and a role model. Through the Green-Girl Project, I have tried and still trying to bring the issues of the environment to the consciousness of the Nigerian People especially seeing the degradation we experience.

The Niger Delta being a crucial area in Nigeria that requires significant attention is one of my main focus. I am indeed happy about projects like the Ogoni Clean-up and related restoration projects. However, I fear that President Trumps decision to withdraw from the Paris Agreement will affect the involvement of American companies like Exxon Mobil who should be crucial to promoting the clean-up and other climate change issues in Nigeria. Exxon Mobil is at the heart of Nigeria’s economy as a major manufacturer and marketer of commodity and specialty petrochemicals in Nigeria. I want to see Exxon mobil increase its commitment to safeguarding the environment in Nigeria through its social investment project.

According to NASA, earth’s temperatures in 2015 were the hottest ever recorded. Rising temperatures and changing patterns of rain and sunshine are changing where plants grow, and in the case of our oceans, encouraging the proliferation of species that impact native ocean habitat. As ocean waters warm, they expand, causing sea-levels to rise. We are at increased risk of storms, droughts, and floods with communities at risk of their life and livelihood. This is all over the news everyday and it is by no chance “fake news”.

For this reason, I continue to urge people especially in Nigeria to do their bit to promote and safeguard the environment through little actions they can practice in their living space. At the same time, I urge you Mr President to take a bolder step than your predecessors to show your commitment to protecting the environment in the US and the world. I look forward to better action from your government, moving forward.

Climate change is already beginning to transform life on earth. We cannot change global warming in terms of where it is today but we can stop it before from gets worse.I agree with Former President Barack Obama when he said, “This is national security issue, it is not just an enviromental issue”. Hence, reaffirming your commitment to the Paris Agreement and other related commitment is not about the environment, it is about ‘putting American first’ and it is about saving the world. Be the super power you claim to be and walk your talk …lead by example. "

http://www.lailasblog.com/2017/06/us-pulling-paris-agreement-will-affect-niger-delta-miss-nigeria-writes-open-letter-donald-trump.html
Madam Love letter, Trump is busy with Melania.
US pulling out will not embolden American companies in Nigeria because we draw the frame work and commit to the investments where necessary, the last time I checked, Nigeria is still a part of the Paris club deal, so why bother?

Oil companies involved in Ogoni clean up will not pull out because the US has pulled out, that is pretty ignorant for a pretty queen. The companies are there because they were indicted by the UNEP report as chief pollutant of ogoni land, it is not a program of choice but one of responsibility.
I am sure you do not know that the immediate past MD of Exxon is the current US foreign secretary,
So go back to your face painting and Catwalking that is your calling, leave global politics for those who understand it.
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by jpphilips(m):
kingzizzy:
And remind us why you are drinking panadol over other peoples headache?
Igbo political rally that handed ojukwu his first electoral defeat since returning from exile, while igbo elites could recognise a traitor from a distance, unlettered individuals are making noise everywhere!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTWGnvDYkM0
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by jpphilips(m):
kingzizzy:
There is no delusion on the part of Biafrans, afterall, self determination is the universal right of all people.

The only delusion here is with Nigerians who think that it is the job of Lugard to come from Europe to give them their country.

Running an outdated, unworkable, retrogressive, divided British colonial contraption called 'one Nigeria' and wondering why everyone does not see the beauty of its faliure.

I laugh in Igbo
The bad news is that every Biafran arguement you have ever put up falls short of logic, no sane igbo man will jump on your band wagon when reality sets in (Note: I don't count keke riders, okada, petty traders as sound igbo men), I can tell you boldly that you have no clue how sovereignty is gotten, you are yet to take the first step in the process yet making the loudest noise, go get the damn B!afra if you know where it is sold let's have peace, remember that if you succeed, we embrace it, if you fail, shame on you!!
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by jpphilips(m): 12:31pm On Jun 05, 2017
kingzizzy:
The above you posted was when Ojukwu was still Military Governor of the Eastern Region and still under Nigeria. What I meant about Ojukwu controlling the Oil was after he declared Biafra



What you posted about Nigerias Naval strenght and their ability to enforce a blockade is laughable. Another Lagos/Ibadan media concoction. The Nigerian Navy was just roughly 10 years old when the war began in 1967. Im sure they had some gun boats, rafts maybe even some small vessels. But they had no Warships to enforce a Naval blockade, not even close. To enforce a Naval blockade, one woould need Warship almost as large as the oceanliners that deliver and take goods. Gun boats cant do that.

British Warships blockaded Biafra, Russian Airplanes flown by Epyptian pilots gave Nigeria air superiority.

International intervention won the war for Nigeria. Nigeria has never won any war where they were not militarily supported by at least 2 nations. Had the international community stayed clear of the Nigerian/Biafran affair, their wiuld be no country called Nigeria today
You wake up to dispute facts from credible sources as hogwash when you have absolutely no card on the table? What kinda DNA runs in this guy?
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by jpphilips(m): 12:28pm On Jun 05, 2017
OAUTemitayo:
Did they also listened to the reason given by the Serbian government against Kosovo secession?
Hell no.
America and Europe has no right to determine how Ethnic Russians live their life.
Crimea is gone forever​,
If Ukraine try any stupid thing in Crimea or Sevastopol, Russia will bang their fascist az.z.
Stop comparing apples with Oranges, Crimea is Crimea while Kosovo is what it is, major world powers change foreign policies as it suits their interest, even a simple regime change can change the foreign policy of a world power on an ongoing conflict.
Obama wanted a regime change in Syria, Donald trump wants unfettered access in Syria to bomb the living day light out of Isis, same country different policies, same targets.
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by jpphilips(m): 12:06pm On Jun 05, 2017
pazienza:
Because Asaba couldn't have preferred Nigeria to Biafra, they are Igbo, remember?
It's only rational to preserve life first when faced between life and a hard choice, Nigerian soldiers had guns pointed at their towns, surely, as a Yoruba muslim, you must understand that.
Asaba people declared neutrality in the civil war, Murtala Mohammed pushed them to fight on the Biafran side, Murtala met them going about their normal business. not minding that war raged across the Niger, Asaba was the Switzerland second world war of the civil war.
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by jpphilips(m):
kingzizzy:
As I said before, Ojukwu was in a very good position to have won the war. Ojukwu had the support, manpower and the Oil. Had Ojukwu been able to export Oil and buy arms, food and other supplies, there is no magic that Nigeria could have done to win the war. The reason Ojukwu lost was the Naval blockade enforced by British Warships. In 1967, the Nigerian Navy was still in its infancy, It was just roughly 10 years old. Nigeria had no warship or even the technical know how even operate one. Nigeria did not acquire any Warship untill the 80's. Even now, Nigeria has no carriers and less than 5 Standard Warships. Warships cost hudreds of millions of Dollars. So when you say that Biafra was the weaker side, I laugh. The massive military support Nigeria got from Britain and Russia is what won the war for Nigeria.
You are a joke, did ojukwu make a single oil and gas investment or he seized Nigerian oil assets and promised to concession it to France in exchange for a few camos and bullets? You don't get it do you? How can Ojukwu export oil that belongs to Nigeria when Nigeria was standing right across with a loaded gun? The oil companies vacated the oil fields and shut down everything, it was ojukwu's engineers that managed to restart the process yet he couldn't get enough to fuel locomotives let alone make exports, Does ojukwu have a single oil export contract with any country at the time? or you don't care to even understand how oil is sold before throwing around your emptiness?
In your deluded mind, You think oil is a commodity you barge in the high sea waiting for buyers to pick them up at the right price, you are the least IQ I have met on Nairaland, jeez!! Why do you guys make puerile assumptions?

You think Nigeria did not have active Naval personnel in 1967? Do I blame you? obviously your cheap education did not tell you about the NNS QUORRA, JEA Wey was already a chief of Naval staff by 1964, three years before the war broke out.
Continue undermining Nigeria at your own risk, ojukwu did it too, whatever that Ojukwu saw and ran away await you in this new campaign bring it on!!
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by jpphilips(m): 11:10am On Jun 05, 2017
[quote author=laudate post=57133103]And you need to let go of your propaganda. sad Unfortunately, this thread's objective is NOT the civil war, so I do not want to derail it. What Awolowo said was that "if the Igbo were allowed to secede or were pushed out, the Yorubas would be left with no option but to follow suit." The question is: were the Igbo allowed to secede or were they pushed out? NO. angry In fact, Gowon initiated a police action to compel Ojukwu to drop his secession plans and remain within Nigeria. undecided Awolowo also begged this same Ojukwu to give him notice and rescind his stand on secession, because the South-west was still occupied by Northern soldiers.

As for the Aburi accord, a decree was enacted which would have given Ojukwu 80% of his demands that were made at Aburi. He rejected it because he was hell-bent on going to war. A wise man would have accepted that offer, and gone back to the negotiating table to ask for more. Just like Israel did, under Ben Gurion. undecided
80% is a very conservative figure, the only thing decree 8 skipped was confederation and sharing formular, both of which are ojukwu's personal agenda, it has absolutely nothing to do with quelling the pogrom. If Ojukwu went to Aburi with at least one person, ojukwu wouldn't have anyone to fight for his pocket at least someone will tell Igbos what their master negotiated on their behalf.




Ojukwu instigated the war by declaring secession. sadEven after it started, he was given options from several quarters to put an end to it. He refused. Only to turn round and abandon his people on the battlefield.
Only a child wouldn't know that secession is an act of war, do you really blame him?
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by jpphilips(m):
kingzizzy:
You need to brush up on your Nigerian history. All the things you said in the above happend after the war already started except that of Awolowo who visited Ojukwu before Ojukwu declared Biafra. In that visit, Awolowo publicly said that if Igbo leave Nigeria, Yorubas would do the same. When Ojukwu seceded, insread of Awolowo to rally the Yoruba nation and fighting for their sovereignty, Awolowo as the typical 2 faced Nigerian politician he was accepted political position and started saluting Gowon who was young enough to be his son.

Ojukwu did everything he could to avoid war. [b]He went to Ghana and signed the Aburi agreement so that there would be peace, Gowon broke the agreement. Ojukwu offered Gowon referendum so that there would no war, Gowon said it must be 'one Nigeria'. Gowon then declared war and invaded Biafra. [/b]Ojukwu never went to war, war came Ojukwu. All Ojukwu did was fight to defend his people.
This guy is not more than 16yrs, trust me!! hear Ojukwu himself saying war was imminent, listen to his series of chest beating,
today he knows better, you see your own chest beating is at amateurish levels, I thought you said he never knew war was underway??
You can see several ojukwu's mercenaries that were interviewed, one will think Biafran army was an European army. stop lying to your soul.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyLlGQ1e4qc
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by jpphilips(m):
laudate:
Point of correction. Nigerians only own less than half of the existing marginal oil fields. sad More than half of the oil blocks owned by Nigerians, are not even in production. The bulk of oil exploration and production (especially in deepwater) is controlled by the multinationals. Kindly crosscheck your facts.
I have corrected that hogwash severally here, I am tired of listening to vegetable sellers discussing oil and gas.
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by jpphilips(m):
author=kingzizzy post=57126876]

You should go and learn Nigerian history before saying these things.
Your history sucks too!!




The important thing here is that Ojukwu and Gowon had an agreement called the Aburi agreement. Gowon broke this agreement and Ojukwu declared Biafra. Gowon then declared war and sent troops to the East.
You have no clue what happened in Aburi so don't discuss it, first, Aburi was necessitated by the pogrom in the northern states where Igbos were killed mindlessly by the Hausa Fulani, the sole aim of the Aburi conference was to secure the lives and properties of igbos who at the time has ran to the East for Ojukwu's protection being their governor. According to the transcript released by the Aburi host, then Ghanian president, Ankra ( a neutral party in the conflict), you must note the following facts;

1) Ojukwu negotiated the fate of igbos alone in the company of his confidential secretary, who does that? at a time when Zik (Nigerian independence forerunner, Governor General and President), Nwafor orizu (Senate President) and Jaja Nwachukwu (speaker house of reps) were all alive.Never mind that Nigeria arrived with over 19 delegates.

2) At Aburi, Ojukwu and Gowan agreed on the decentralization of the armed forces which was what exacerbated the Killings, regional police took sides instead of maintaining law and order till date we have military formations nearly in all the states of the federation a fall out of the Aburi agreement, it is pertinent to note that everything Ojukwu and Gowan agreed on the security of Igbos was contained in decree 8 which Ojukwu rejected, despite being welcomed by other regions. This is where the Disagreement started.

3) ojukwu asked for confederation in Aburi, the question young igbos like you should be asking is ; How does that stop the killings which was the reason for the conference? that was omitted in decree 8 because it threatened the sovereignty of Nigeria. however, decree 8 made provision for state autonomy but added a caveat that in an event of breakdown of law and order, the FG will declare state of Emergency, the same circumstance we are living through the 1999 constitution till date. ojukwu rejected it and said it was a ploy to push him out of office.

4) Ojukwu went to negotiate revenue sharing formula with Gowon to be sure his pocket is well accommodated before anything else, how does "sharing formular" stop the killing of igbos? Watch this video carefully and hear Ojukwu admit it on tape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJjB8LCstx8


After rejecting all the reasonable peace accords, he came home and asked your father to support "On Aburi we stand" without showing your father what he negotiated at Aburi, isn't that the scam of the century?

Despite the Myriads of selfish and self aggrandizement, you dare say he was forced to fight?


Is it while Nigerian troop are coming down to the East that Ojukwu waiting for 'perfect time' to fight? Ojukwu simply had to give it all he had and that is what he did for three years. Ojukwu never went to war, Nigeria brought war to Ojukwu.
An exclusive ignorant statement, ojukwu knew from the start that his refusal of a peace process was a card of war in the offing, the same Ojukwu was first to declare a republic in Nigeria (treasonable act), he was the first to convert Nigerian assets, what else does he expect? A graduate of history from the best university in the world at the time? Even a child knows better.
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by jpphilips(m): 10:15am On Jun 05, 2017
Personally, I do not believe that the Nigerian Governmebt will embark on some mass deportation exercise of Igbos when Biafra comes. I say this for the following reasons.
Because you don't believe doesn't mean it will not happen, all you need do is to sit back and relax then watch as events unfold, are you aware that when Biafra was declared a republic in 1967, Ojukwu seized UNN and renamed it University of Biafra? same with other FG assets? he wrote to Shell asking for all the Nigerian stakes in the JV, funny enough Shell paid once then refused,You guys have played that stunt before,surprising why you are scared of Nigeria returning the favour? you guys just don't have a clue what lies ahead, if Nigeria did not win that war, all the Nigerian assets in SE and SS are gone, we saw it in Sudan (pipeline), Crimea (Sea ports) and Kashmir (arable land), B!afra is a piece of cake.



1) Biafra is most likely to be multi-ethnic:- Contrary to what some people may think Biafra may not be comprised of just Igbos. It is most likely to be multi-ethnic which means that any sort of deportation will have to take that into consideration.
At that point, it is no longer up to you to decide the policy direction of the Nigerian state, you wont even know when it will be decided, you will only witness the execution.



2) The laws of Nigeria is that anyone born in Nigeria automatically becomes a Nigerian citizen regardless of where their parents come from. I know many Igbos who were born outside Igbo land in places like Lagos, Abuja, Kaduna etc. These Igbos cannot be deported because they are entitled to both Nigerian citizenship and dual citizenship.
It is not just the law of Nigeria, it is a subset of an existing international law called "citizenship by birth" however, those laws are very dynamic once domesticated. your citizenship right is clearly bifurcated from property ownership, those who will retain their properties are likely igbos who still retain their Nigerian passport, any Igbo man with a biafran passport may forfeit his properties, that's a c0ck sure possibility. look at Taiwan and China for example, despite winning china in the 1949 war, Taiwan still regulate the amount of properties owned by the Chinese in Mainland Taiwan till date. Your citizenship by birth will be subject to legal interpretation whether there was a Biafra before you were born. If you choose Biafra over Nigeria, then you must trade that citizenship right, that's the least Nigeria will do, trust me on that, I ve seen it happen in so many countries.
Do you know that after Ukraine broke away from Russia, they seized some military wares from Russia? the chernobyl nuclear plant for example was seized from Russia.


3) Although Nigeria can insisit that all Igbos return to Biafra, doing so will damage Nigeria internationally
What international damage did "Ghana must go do" do? you care to explain?
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by jpphilips(m): 9:47am On Jun 05, 2017
deomelo:
No entity can force war on you, it's up to you to fight or be strategic by accessing your options, pros and cons, advantages and disadvantages and your odds. Why not wait till you are well prepared, well supplied and strong to boldly confront your enemy?


Going to war to war without tools to fight with, no food for your people to eat, no medicine to treat the injured with, no moral and material support by friends outside your borders is pure stupidity, recklessness, idiocy, foolishness and mental incompetence.


The new clown don't even have 1 AK 47 or 1 single truck load of food to sustain any friction or event.


Going to war based on sentiments and emotions is nothing but death wish.
That Kidizzy is a homeless kid, I am beginning to suspect, he has no grasp of anything or anywhere, reading from that loser makes me puke.
He sounds like NURTW chairman, the likes you find at Upper Iweka, he doesn't even sound like an individual who owns a television, whoever gave that kid access to the internet has done a huge disservice to the Nigerian people.
IPOB is a disgrace to reasonable igbos, they only succeeded in assembling men and women with no depth and content, but I see an opportunity in all these, since Nigeria hardly experience natural disasters, IPOB struggle will create an opportunity for us to depopulate the mentally deficient in this country.
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by jpphilips(m): 9:33am On Jun 05, 2017
kingzizzy:
Sorry bro but most Igbos dont share your sentiments. The war was forced on Ojukwu. It was far more incumbent on Gowon as head of state to prevent war than for Ojukwu.

Ojukwu was faced with two options. Bow down and accept Nothern domination like Awolowo and Yorubas did or rise up and fight for your sovereignty and freedom. Now which option did you expect an Igbo man like Ojukwu to choose?
Gentlemen, this fella has a very unique problem, that problem was identified by nnamdi kanu when he said emphatically that "black men lack the ability to reason"; this kidzizzy is a prototype of Kanu's description.
This fella just told us that Ojukwu was forced into a war, How exactly??
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by jpphilips(m): 9:22am On Jun 05, 2017
tinsel:
This is not senseless post. I am an Igbo man, and when I lie down and think of massive Igbo investments all over Nigeria and what will happen, I am gripped with fear. When I lie down and and think of massive exodus of Igbo's from Nigeria to biafra states I am gripped with fear.
During Abiola episode, I slept on road for two full days travelling from Lagos to Onitsha because of the exodus of the Igbos.
People doing this are children not beyond 20 years and people that has nothing to lose. They never owned anything in there whole life.
please we need to take it easy.
The pro Biafra agitators are yet to realize that majority of folks with divergent views on Biafra here are Igbos, they take solace in branding them Yorubas, i just laugh at their misplaced identity. An Okada rider in a remote village in Abakiliki wants to decide the national fate of an Igbo who owns companies and interests world over, I feel sorry for most of those lvnatics, forgive my language I am not nice to !d!ots
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by jpphilips(m):
laudate:
Bros, you have made some valid points, but please kindly let us keep things civil. undecided The purpose of this thread is to give the pro-Biafra advocates some food for thought, and make them undergo a process of introspection. Anger and harsh words may derail that objective. Daalu zi! cheesy
Thing is this; you can not reason logically with people who lack access to the store of objective reasoning, there are very few people here I talk to nicely because at least they have proved to be humans, most of these pro IPOBS are majorly hawkers and spare parts dealers, in real life, I share no real ideological platform with them why should the internet be any different?

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