₦airaland Forum

nairamaniac:
1 TINUBU
Tinubu would create, actualise profits from his intelligence&creativity. Also, Tinibu is the biggest workaholic amongst the 3 candidate.
One on One, Obi is personally more hardworking than Tinubu. However, Tinubu works with/As a Team.
Obi can never work as much/hard as a Team as well/much as Tinubu.
Cause Obi is more timid/more careful of wastages.
Tinubu fears no wastage, cos there is always excess/abundance within his reach to cover up all wastages(errors).
Excesses like Taxes, Loans, Returns from states funds he is in control of.
Tinubu's plus side is that he is the most connected of the 3 candidates. Tinubu is far more highly connected to specialists of various technical fields than both Obi&Atiku.
Heads of both Local&Foreign Brands would be more attracted to work with Tinubu ahead of Atiku&Obi. Reason being that he has the best track records with Companies, Brands, Political-associates, Lagos Factor(habing one of the best state economies in Africa),

However, after sooo much profits actualized by Tinubu's Government, he would loot very highly from its proceeds.

2. ATIKU
Atiku would not create anything new. Atiku is the least creative amongst the 3 candidates. Atiku's vision is limited to what Nigeria already currently has. It's assets and Government operating facilities eg NNPC, LNG, NPA.

Atiku would not go further than what he already sees and all we already have.
He would focus on selling state assets, opening up the economy for private sectors and foreign investors.
Even though he has best of intentions, his programs would be compromised by his own personal/selfish interests.
He would loot high upon not generating as much funds/profits as Tinubu.
Atiku is the dullest of the 3candidates. He lacks the charisma/intelligence to even defend himself(even when innocent). Obasanjo slanders him of being gay and the stigma defeats him.
Wike goes against him for not dropping Ayu and yet Wike was equally guilty of what led to Ayu being there till end of the primaries.
Atiku has the lease level of reachout&relationship to Technocrats. All Technocrats claims credit to have discovered all have POLITICAL-ATTACHMENT to him.
That is he would always mix Technocracy with politics.
Atiku would loot very highly from what he didn't create from and from all he decided to do from all that is available.


3. OBI
Obi is the least confident of the 3 candidates.
He is the most Timid. Things would work slower under Obi than Tinubu, however they would be achieved.
We know why he is Timid, he has the least access to external paraphernalia and funds to cover up errors/wastages unlike Tinubu.
For every 1 area of the economy Obi would touch, Tinubu would touch 10. However, quantity doesn't win the race.
Obi is the Least connected of the 3candidates. Even in his own state, he is not connected to the Big Guns enough to cajole them to part with their funds or make commitments.

Obi would loot the very least of these 3 candidates By this, he may not necessarily loot, but his Government would loot the least due to his set examples.
If he isn't looting, his wife&children are not looting, his workers and appointees would be more controlled & decipline.
Under Obi, Lagos would diluted and other states would be opened.
Obi would not sell state assets cos he feels they can do better under a more condusive/deceplined environment. Obi, would invest government money in International&Local brands.
Obi's Appointees would be the least happy amongst the 3candidates as they are not getting the freehand we as Nigerians are accustomed to whenever we have access to Government purse.
Obi is next in creativity to Tinubu.
However he would create adequately.

CONCLUSION
With all these above and much more, I would personally vote for Obi.
I have weighed all PROS and CONS.
Obviously I am not God and I cannot be 100% right.

You don't need to tell me or anyone that I would personally vote for Obi.
Cos Obi is what we most need at the very moment.
Thank You!

seun,
Mynd44,
Lalasticlala,
OAM4j

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Attributes of tinubu according to op
1)"intelligence&creativity" the downside to this is that it had been proven from his antecedents that that his creativity and intelligence is tilted towards criminality from the way he looted and is still looting Lagos, all the people surrounding tinubu are criminally inclined, even to the poorest Lagos tout and omonile
2) "workaholic" according to statistics on work done during tinubu and obi's tenure when tinubu was still healthy he couldn't measure up to obi in works and achievement, both health, education, lifting people out of poverty and life expectancy, how then can he match obi now that his health is bad
3) obi worked with a team of professionals that governed anambra during his tenure, but has a philosophy of not criminally interfering with his teammates or acting as a don of a criminal ruling cabal, aka, godfather,obi's teamwork was based on contribution of ideas from different individuals in all fields of life to generate ideas on improving governance, thus giving a better performance
4)Taxes and loans, tinubu's government survives on retrogressive taxing, unproductive loans, to which he had subjected labosians to, impoverishing many citizens especially downtrodden suffering masses like drivers artisans local retail traders while enriching and empowering agberoes and omoniles, aka touts and urchins.
5) connections, tinubu is criminally connected, due to his real background, like the criminal chougri and chougris and drug connections, plus his identity issue and criminal past in USA, obi is connected too, but to real legitimate companies and manufacturing concerns, and his background is not an issue.

Tingotoe:
Accept responsibility and enough of the victim status. Facts cannot be tribalistic. There's a growing pandemic of drug dealing amongst south easterners

Still complaining, concentrate on improving your self,, reduce hate and jealousy, your heart will regain it's health, your health will improve

You could be right about this drug ring, but the way you put up the write-up shows that you have an intrinsic hatred laced with bile jealousy and frustration against the igboes, the hate from observation have increased to an unmanageable prorpotion, to the extent that you now sound like a demented case, complaining like a last born, if this situation continues, you might end up dieing of heartbreak or suicide, so take it easy

Welcome to Nigeria, are you surprised, sanusi who schooled in Lagos said that sw brought Nigeria to where it is today due to tribalism and I thought he was joking, until I went to ibadan to buy some agricultural product, all the nonsense I read from their media about being accommodating vanished, I've been to ss, se, nc, ne and me, all are tribalistic to some extent but sw is on another level. If tiinubu is a hausa or especially, from se or as, their media will unleash Armageddon on the person.

Moh247:
He was barely warning Obi to stop scamming gullible Zombidiots

He wasn't warning obi, he was indirectly telling
the cabal that obi is his only obstacle, among all the presidential candidates

Agbegbaorogboye:
Oya o Lhordspy

Work don ready
Com and wack

Okay, on behalf of lhordspy I can explain, it means balablu bulaba poo poo, which means cassava garri ewa nyiunyiu pdapc. With this explanation which I don't understand, I have urchinatinly explained what Bala blue was saying, and for your information, if you don't accept my explanation, I will fight with all the urchinism jagaban taught me

[quote author=Jagabanofafrica post=119816760][/quote]Unless you understand your role in society, you can never make any meaningful contribution. According to the Greeks there are three types of people on earth,
- the idiots, the tribesmen, and
the citizens.

Studies have shown that only 10% of Africans are "citizens".
The remaining 90% are either "tribesmen " or "idiots" .
When the Greeks used the word "idiot", they did not use it as a curse word. Idiots are people who just don’t care. If they write exams, they will cheat. If they are in government they will steal.
An "idiot" does not care at all, if he eats bananas he throws the peels anywhere instead of putting them in a trash bin.
"IDIOTS" do not contribute to community development. Even when they see or know about something that will harm others in the community they won't report it. When they see/know/have something that will benefit their community they won't share. "IDIOTS" will sell their votes for peanuts. According to the Greeks, some societies have more "idiots" than "tribesmen" and "citizens".
The next set of people are "tribesmen ", these are people that look at everything from a tribal point of view.

These are people that believe in you only if you are part of their tribe.
When the Greeks talk about "tribes", it’s not just about ethnicity, they also consider religion as a "tribe".
A great percentage of Africans are "tribesmen", because they view everything from the point of view of their tribes. They trust only their tribesmen. You can now understand why Ihordspy has this cognitive dissonance.

The last group are "citizens". These are people that like to do things the right way. They will respect traffic light rules even if no one is watching them.They drive within speed limits. They respect the laws, won’t cheat in exams.In government they won’t steal. They are compassionate and give to others to promote their wellbeing. "Citizens" often promote projects that benefit everyone. The Greeks called this group the "citizens". Some countries have more "citizens" than "tribesmen" and "idiots" while others have so many "idiots" . This was what led us to our present condition and may also lead us to the next disaster waiting to happen. People like Ihordspy or whatever his moniker is are the problem of this country.

yarimo:
who is his mate? Please it's an insults to patriotic Nigerians for you to claim OBI is among TINUBU mates

Unless you understand your role in society, you can never make any meaningful contribution. According to the Greeks there are three types of people on earth,
- the idiots, the tribesmen, and
the citizens.

Studies have shown that only 10% of Africans are "citizens".
The remaining 90% are either "tribesmen " or "idiots" .
When the Greeks used the word "idiot", they did not use it as a curse word. Idiots are people who just don’t care. If they write exams, they will cheat. If they are in government they will steal.
An "idiot" does not care at all, if he eats bananas he throws the peels anywhere instead of putting them in a trash bin.
"IDIOTS" do not contribute to community development. Even when they see or know about something that will harm others in the community they won't report it. When they see/know/have something that will benefit their community they won't share. "IDIOTS" will sell their votes for peanuts. According to the Greeks, some societies have more "idiots" than "tribesmen" and "citizens".
The next set of people are "tribesmen ", these are people that look at everything from a tribal point of view.

These are people that believe in you only if you are part of their tribe.
When the Greeks talk about "tribes", it’s not just about ethnicity, they also consider religion as a "tribe".
A great percentage of Africans are "tribesmen", because they view everything from the point of view of their tribes. They trust only their tribesmen. You can now understand why Ihordspy has this cognitive dissonance.

The last group are "citizens". These are people that like to do things the right way. They will respect traffic light rules even if no one is watching them.They drive within speed limits. They respect the laws, won’t cheat in exams.In government they won’t steal. They are compassionate and give to others to promote their wellbeing. "Citizens" often promote projects that benefit everyone. The Greeks called this group the "citizens". Some countries have more "citizens" than "tribesmen" and "idiots" while others have so many "idiots" . This was what led us to our present condition and may also lead us to the next disaster waiting to happen. People like Ihordspy or whatever his moniker is are the problem of this country.

falcon01:
so because it worked for Biden it will work for Kwankwaso?

Yes, kwankwaso would have been hard to beat, just like Biden, he would have beaten all odds, sometimes, we stoop to conquer.

HEI!!!! What kind of country is this, criminals no de shame anymore, it's only in Nigeria that you see millions of people supporting a drug baron and criminal without a single shame, immediately you ask for those that will make heaven, both in Christianity and Islam, same Nigerians will be the first to raise their hands, the kind of hell fire God will reserve for this set of Nigerians that vote based on tribe and religion, instead of competence, can't be imagined, their suffering in hell will be ten times compared to others, the gnashing of their teeth in suffering will be heard all over the universe, nonsense.

Ekpeitit:
The incoming president of Nigeria can piss or shit wherever and whenever he likes,if it makes you uncomfortable then migrate back to IPOBLAND or jump into the lagoon. You have no say in who becomes the president of Nigeria because your 2% votes makes no sense.

Hahaha!!!! People are calling you zombie and all kinds of derogatory names because of your satanic views, but what they don't know is that they are giving you credit, because you are worst than all the derogatory names they can muster, they didn't know that you are that particular shit tinubu excreted in that video.

ItsTutsi:
Pandora "Anini" Him Tu Lie won't be president! No amount of propaganda from nyamiri flat.head Osu will make Ibo second class citizen president

Actually that money washes on contact with water, maybe the original tenders are with the cabals, so that at the end of the day, every body will be bankrupted, nothing is beyond this present politicians running our affairs

Dollarseeker:
lies

It's not a lie, he also said obasanjo Will not complete his second tenure, but we know otherwise, mbaka operates on psyche of naive minded individuals, people like obi, who are genuinely humanitarian and encompassing, are closer to people's suffering, operate on a higher realm and, obj on the other hand, has transversed all facets of life earning a higher calling. These men are not under the naive umbrella that mbaka can manipulate, they rather share closeness to God through more responsible clerics.

Reinaldo:
Who dey lick mic?

See am

Una go hear am, make jagaban finish licking the cocaine on this Mike, he bulababluu una

LeoDeKing:
But Emeka claims pandora Obituary has won the election already, so what's the fuse about Tinubu's supporters when their support "has no effect"?

Ahh leode goat have you finished licking grass, anyway your Lord and master was asked to taste the Mike, and he did just that

mightyhaze:
Where is Leo de goat

He went to eat, sorry lick grass

HydraFeeds:
firstly I must say that you’re the only Obi supporter that I have seen that doesn’t get emotional ,insult or commit logical fallacies but go straight to the point .


But there are many uproar during his tenure in respect to security ,he was said that he disbanded local vigilante to cut cost which resulted into insecurity since most federal law enforcement agency can’t cover certain areas

https://saharareporters.com/2013/04/11/former-deputy-governor-anambra-state-killed-kidnappers

https://thenationonlineng.net/six-killed-in-anambra-robbery-incident/

That’s just two examples in 2013 …there are many case studies in 2013 alone a year before he handed over not to talk of the series of crimes in his years as governor also the sars head was a k*illing machine dumping bodies in the river. Obiano met a lot of insecurities and was dismantling kidnappers dem in his first year of government.

I’m not saying there’s no crime during other candidates time as well but my point is that the person touted as messiah is just a wolf in sheep clothing and bird of a feather whim we shouldn’t expect must from .

I believe some people will disagree that those that reinvested their crime proceeds during his governorship boosted the smes because the IGR generated during his tenure is not much compare to others .

The only thing he did and deserve applause is the savings he left in state coven (though from underfunding state parastatals,many anambra people were not happy then but supporting him now because of he’s our child )

There were uproars actually, but the case of obi and obiano is like David doing the gritty dirty works while Solomon inherited the glory, obi came in when governor was not even safe in anambara, and chinwoke mbadinuju was owing teachers 13 months, not to talk of workers pension, ngige could care less ( you saw how he handled ASUU) anambara's road to rural communities was an eyesore, kidnapping was rampant, godfathers, criminals agberos and all kinds of touts hold sway bearing different acronyms like " ndi npiawa azu" meaning, back breaking caners, " ndi ntigbu ukwu aziza" meaning, gather like broom and beat up everybody, the rampaging ogbaru youths, under the leadership of fela pikin, and opposing obosi youths, fight, fracas and altercation usually occur between these groups, and how dare you be seen around markets environs a minute after 5, it was clash after clash, these were the vigilantes obi dismantle with the help of RRS, rapid response squad, in there place, avs was formed and Nigerian navy were drafted in, giving special training on disciplining and working with the anambara people, yes anambara people are the most stubborn stock you can get anywhere in Nigeria, and did they oppose obi's tactics? The gave it back to him, shootouts with police, navy and avs at the criminals various hideout, at a point, he obi had to be in on battle groundwit security agents to dislodge these criminals, if in doubt ask the Nigerian police. Ogbaru youths and Obosi youths were all usually armed with machetes, pump action and ak 47, mpiawa azu goes around with bunch of canes and ak 47, ukwu aziza were actually the first broom holding merchants before APC, they back the brooms up with ak 47, this was before ak 47 wielding Fulani herdsmen and bandits, and they all move in numbers ranging in 30s , 40s and above, discharging "wider wider" to anyone who dare oppose them, on top of all these were the dreaded omata boys with there machete, pump action and ak, it was endless clash after clash, but you know the funny thing, by the end of obi's tenure, only the Navy, police and avs survived, and that is what obiano inherited, the crux of the battle was fought by obi, obiano who inherited fidelity bank from obi who transformed small fidelity to a mega bank, later inherited anambara state government from obi, he had followed obi from the time the were classmates at ckc, you know how it goes, while obi is calculated and a manager of scarce resources to produce wealth, obiano always comes in when the job has been done to bask in the wealth splurge it and collect the glory. Again their will always be armed robbers
As for whether some criminals invested in smes, it has happened in US and other countries, and like I said it was presumed, I can't back my claims since it's rumour, for IGR, things are not usually as they seem, we need to look closely, look during his second tenure, I was a fresher in futo owerri, Charles soludo was finishing his tenure or had Dee finished his tenure then as CBN governor, and he visited our school for some functions, he was billed to give a lecture, and I was a drooling fan of his, so naturally I attended the lecture, moreso, exam finished a day prior, he came into our biggest lecture hall, was introduced to our ovations, he mounted the podium and greeted everybody, he then stared seriously at the audience and released a statement I can't forget till today, he said " it's the last month of the year and 60% of Nigerian business transaction money is in southeast, more especially, onitsha, and the hall went silent

HydraFeeds:
In my understanding , what his follower is talking about is embedded systems to enhance productivity and surveillance . Even though I’m sure that neither Tinubu nor Atiku can also answer the question since it’s a technical operation and not their area of specialization ( presidents rely on aids and professionals to make technical decisions) . He could have just come clean by saying we will make some feasibility studies but if we assume that what you’re saying is correct ,the same reasons he doesn’t want to step on toes now is the same reasons he won’t want to step on toes when he becomes the president because there are people capable of frustrating a sitting president and even removing him from sit that are eating from Nigeria corruption . Remember he was once impeached as a governor.

If he doesn’t want to step on toes as a president,he will become a weak president because he will accept a lot of shit just to keep his position . Not to even talk about the same order he consider corrupt that are backing him for endorsement and himself running to them for same ,people like Eneche,Obj,Gumi,Okupe and other state men .

You can be right, he might not go for the likes of obasanjo, enenche, gumi okupe, etc, yet history of obi's antecedents in governance doesn't support complete neglect of their hands and legs, especially in terms of security, to the extent that such big men relocated abandoning their boys, most of whom where gunned down, others were arrested, the lucky ones left anambara, so like I said, you can be right, he might not go the way of probing their loots, or recovering what they have already stolen from the pipelines, but as anambara example showed, when he tackled kidnappers, he has the grits and will to engineer a security set-up that can take care of pipeline vandals, back to anambara as of then, manufacturing hubs and smees replaced kidnappers touts and criminals, not sure about this but I believe some of the bold criminals actually came back and re-invested their loots into smes, others invested through real business men, this in turn created a lot of employment for secondary school leavers, and graduates, that was what propelled the industrial layout in onitsha, awka and nnewi

That's the main reason why I want obi, he knows and understand the value of time, unlike many African leaders, the same reason made him build the highest no of rural roads connecting to cities in anambara, shortening the time it takes to access the cities, thus empowering rural dwellers at the same time
He's only mentioning improvement in agriculture, but his real expertise is in manufacturing, starting with smes, all the agricultural product will be in high demand, by the his fourth year, poverty in the north would almost be wiped out.

Obalacam:
Without him obi would not have gone to court to reclaim his mandate. That's the point

Gbam gbam gbamest, if he had not rigged ngige in obi wouldn't have pursued them to the court before kicking them out

HydraFeeds:
Most of you Obi supporters like to gaslight . I simply gave two reasons why Obj might not want to support Tinubu ,instead of you to respond like someone that’s educated and can counter my position with an objective reason ,you resort to insults which is the flagship trademark of Obi supporters .

If you’re talking about someone that can fix Nigeria ,is the answer Obi ?or can his antecedents be compared to that of Tinubu’s in terms of fixing something?

There’s a video online yesterday where one Of his followers asked him questions about fixing Nigeria pipeline to prevent oil theft and increase productivity. His response that he will give him his number and discuss the matter with him behind camera . His actions is like a dullard teacher that gave students complicated homework because he couldn’t solve it . Truly birds of a feather flocks together .

In view of what you highlighted, I think obi was on point in his response to the pipeline question due to vested interest, investigations carried out over the years has shown that Individuals involved are part and parcel of the ruling class, it will be akin to placing the cart before the horse, if obi is to disclose their identify or the punishment to be meted out on them, since he's yet to win the president of Nigeria, he can't step on big toes for now.

SilverOrLead:
OK.

We don reach the point of acceptance and now to the point of defending Obi's heretic religion.

First you denied , now you accepted and are now defending while deflecting to Tinubu and calling me a Yoruba Muslim. Next step is to derail thread.

These are the four Ds of misinformation tactics used by Boko agents in 2014/2015..

Same Jewish mass psychosis operation carried out on Nigerians for the Fulani goat Buhari that is now being recycled for the Biafran heretic pig Obi.

You idiots will not get another Jewish puppet into Aso Rock.

Obi was at Shiloh, therefore obi is a member of living faith, he was also at deeper Life conference and at Paul enenenche's church, he was also at redeem, by your warped logic obi is a member of all this churches, not excluding, Angelican church and of course his own church Catholic, someone can't attend friends church in solidarity again oo!! just because an urchin like you is reasoning like an urchin of course, looking for what doesn't exist, anyway, since you want to kill yourself because of obi, he not only belong to all this churches, he's also a member of all secret cult in Nigeria, now you can die in peace, urchin, SMH!!?

Meagainstthem:
The same useless Obi that ran anambra aground

Well the man you called useless garnered the best MDG record than any Nigerian governor ever, if he's useless, then all Nigerian governors from 1999 are a plague

Ttalk:
Now tell me, is it Atiku you are supporting or Peter Obi, you seems not to have a priority.

It is only hatred that would make Obi supporter to be preaching that Atiku should defeat Tinubu in faraway NE and NW.

Anyway the hate is noted

That's what I've been telling tiinubu supporters, I've stayed in the core north, they're too ethnically and religiously biased to vote for a candidate outside their region, tinubu tried to please them by sacrificing Jonathan, and his going for Muslim/ Muslim candidate nailed his ambition, core Muslim north is too greedy for power to be pleased with vice presidential position, his alliance with core north really damaged his reputation in the south, and middle belt, especially christian majority in those regions

Osibajo2023:
no single person either dead or alive in southeast that is greater than Tinubu

Exactly, no single person either dead or alive in southeast is greater than Tinubu in stealing

Meagainstthem:
Who is this pig trying to deceive? We will relegate obi by February 2023

Stop exaggerating powers and relevance of old crude corrupt order, what you don't know is that people like obi and Elon musk of this world are gifted with detailings on whatever they set their minds to, the good thing though is that in governance they accomplish at least 95% of whaever they promised and focused on, so chill and watch events as they unfold in front of our eyes.

CoronaVirusRelo:
Gibberish!

Shows how stingy Peter happens to be!

Peter cannot even employ sound and vibrant propagandist!

Just look at the Ladipo propaganda Op put-up

Smh….

See anger on a person that's trying to save you from drowning, anyway, not surprised, urchins are victims of Stockholm syndrome, urchins smh

OP specified that he's taking to Nigerians to vote wisely by voting for their future in the person of Peter obi, yet some urchins have gate crashed into the post, vomiting their usual nonsense, urchins be warned, this post is reserved for Nigerians not animalistic urchins in human form