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From the center of the city of Accra

You look East west North and South, you will find beautiful neighbourhoods all around

Saddamochieng00:
A paper economy is where you can't find a square mile of development that doesn't include shacks/slums. Heck there's even dirt roads in your CBD. I won't be surprised to find cassava plant being planted in your city centre.

Fortunately enough there are no shacks in Ghana.

The only place with massive shacks are in Nairobi and other places in kenya.

Dirty roads in which CBD?
This is not Kenya where you govt is too poor such that all inner roads in kenya remain unpaved.
Your friend rvp calls them murrah roads

Saddamochieng00:
I'll post for you Eastlands which is considered a slum over here but I'm sure is better than all your middle class areas.

Notice how organised the streets are and how electricity is widespread.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sDvFOmus8o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN9dIpgYNms

compare that to a low income area in Temale
Northern Ghana



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9r75WRX1GU

gallivant:
Post Accra for everyone to see..

Post a community anywhere in Kenya that can be half as developed as any part of Ghana

Saddamochieng00:
We've proved to you time and time again that yours is just but a paper economy.

paper economy is where 90% of it population are poor and 40% are extremely poor.

A paper economy is what kenya has and it is evident in the fact that Kenyans can't even transmit up to 100 billion dollars on Mpesa.

The paper kenyan economy can't even provide slimy Nairobi the slum with water supply or ehave more than 50% electricity access.

That is the definition of

Saddamochieng00:
If Accra is a certified village then what about that dworoduro craphole you're speaking of. Post a video of that craphole we wanna see it in all its glory

The only certified Shithole is Nairobi where everyone lives in slums.

In fact the world goes for slum tourism there just to see how desperate live is and why no society have to degenerate to that level.





First post a place in kenya that can look half as developed and beautiful like even dworwulo.
Make it a drive tru

Saddamochieng00:
I told you I only deal with logic and fact....your opinions and emotions you can keep to yourself.

How is Ghana's economy bigger than Kenya's economy?

Ghana has a larger PPP than Kenya.

Let deal with facts and logic and not your stupid pauper rants and slogans.

Saddamochieng00:
You're a really senseless woman. Which country can pride itself in being debt free. We've used that debt to develop our country into the third biggest economy in SSA but what has Ghana done with all the aid from your puppet masters the IMF.

This is just the outskirts of Nairobi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ulUTtY9Sps


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq8uMcIbFQI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYGjV5un2Lc

Ghana has used it money to approach a developed country status where extreme poverty is a thing of the past and Ghanaians having more social services than kenya will ever be able to provide.

Ghana economy is even bigger than that of kenya.


Combine all of those things in the videos you have posted here and it wont match up to Dworwulo, a town of 253,000 people in Accra

rvp2018:
Cocoa can increase in production in non gold region or by better crop husbandry or new farms ; you're always going to off tagent. Kenya is NOT A ZOO. No chinese can be allowed WITHOUT A WORK PERMIT - and that mean they have to proof they have skills nobody has or serious business worth serious money.

Ask Nigerians in Kenya - they get kicked out.

Our immigration is not Ghana joke.

no boy

Unless there is more planting, yield don't increase.


Kenya is the biggest ZOO on the continent where 90% of it population is poor while 40% of the general population is extremely poor.


Yet the Chinese run everything in your country from port to rail and general transportation.
Construction to trading.



This is why poverty is so massive in kenya
Kenyans remain paupers in their own country

rvp2018:
The journalist quoted an expert. The expert estimated 95% of all mines are illegal. And you're quoting yourself as always Fool nobody give a damn what the figures your careless throw around.

which expert ?

All the mines have prospecting licenses from the minerals commission to carry out community small scale mining.


Awe the dumb fool from kenya is frustrated


At least we are proud of our people and award them licenses to mine and they are smart to use Chinese labourers to cut down cost of operations and make more money.

Your poverty figures are facts

rvp2018:
Chinese gangs are minning illegally in forest and people cocoa farms. You're as always going off tangent.

it's a simple question

Answer

How will cocoa farms be destroyed and yet cocoa harvest will increase by 20% ?

The chinese are labourers for Ghanaians mine owner but in Kenya, they are they managers of your port and rails.

They own everything
That is why your people are poor

rvp2018:
Here is one that you missed - a journalist investigation. 95% of all small scale minning in Ghana are illegal - run by Chinese gangs - armed with guns! The ghanian follow chinese trail - after the heavy machinery - they go to scramble for any left over gold with their bare hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohrrE1rjzLo

95% of all small scale mining in Ghana are not illegal.
In fact, they all have permit to mine and prospect and they are run by Ghanaians who own the mines.

The Chinese govt protested that their people were being scapegoated even when they are not the owners of the mines.

rvp2018:
Or watch this video - They have destroyed my cocoa farm; they have destroyed my future


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohrrE1rjzLo

the price of mining anywhere has always been the destruction of vegetation.

How can they destroy cocoa farms and yet Cocoa harvest will increase by 20% ?



The Chinese and Israelis will keep milking kenya dry while poverty in kenya keeps increasing like the way extreme poverty has increased from 15 million people to 20 million people in your country

rvp2018:
I rather listen to your president again

Artisanal mining began as small-time ventures. But the “romantic” era of individual mining has given way to “large-scale and dangerous” operations run by foreign-controlled criminal syndicates, Ghana’s President Nana Akufo-Addo told a mining conference in February. Ghana is Africa’s second-largest gold produce

Except after investigations into several mines, it was revealed that all of them are own by Ghanaians and the Chinese were contracted to be labourers.

And these investigations were carried out by investigation journalists and media houses.

rvp2018:
Yes, Chinese kick them out of their cocoa farms, mine their gold, and smuggle it. Ghana and Zambia are twins. Chinese have basically taken over their country. They are both ever broke countries.

Ghana even made a chinese a King or Chief

we even made Europeans and Americans chief.

There are several levels of chief.

Just like the Queen of England awards Honors of Knighthood, orders of the empire,
MBE and OBE and others

Chinese were brought in as labourers to work on the mines of Ghanaians who own them.

After we finish using them, we sent them back to their country.

In kenya, they have taken over everything in your country because your govt owe them a debt which hasn't been paid.

rvp2018:
Chinese loans are the best. They are at same concessionary rates like IMF/WB - with some of it grants. Chinese also deliver - on projects - on time and on quality. Yes there contractors will come but that also help deal with corrupt African contractors. We gave some Nigeria company a road contract - they took 10yrs and delivered worst quality road. Chinese can do the same in less than a year.

And you think Chinese contractors ain't corrupt?

I will rather deal with a corrupt African contractor than a Chinese.At least the money will stay in the economy.


As a result of giving our own contractors contract.
Today they deliver great project with superb quality and on time

The Chinese give loans at commercial rates with the prospect of taking your country over

rvp2018:
Chinese loans are the best. They are at same concessionary rates like IMF/WB - with some of it grants. Chinese also deliver - on projects - on time and on quality. Yes there contractors will come but that also help deal with corrupt African contractors. We gave some Nigeria company a road contract - they took 10yrs and delivered worst quality road. Chinese can do the same in less than a year.

And you think Chinese contractors ain't corrupt?

I will rather deal with a corrupt African contractor than a Chinese.At least the money will stay in the economy.


As a result of giving our own contractors contract.
Today they deliver great project with superb quality and on time

Appisko:
That is how stupid the guy is

He keep digging himself into deeper holes

PetroDolla2020:
keep on deceiving yourself kenyans are very corrupt kenyans fear their leaders will again steal the money simplicita stop talking crass crap kenya republic of china The chinese are coming for the money kenya owes


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Like they did with the WB money last year.

Their politicians pocketed them in their own personal bank accounts

rvp2018:
Only COVID has sent countries to IMF. IMF was created for COVID-19 like situation. Nobody thought a country named Ghana would be going to IMF every 3 yrs.

IMF was not created for Covid like situations


How come your country has been to IMF more than Ghana?


Ghanaians are intelligent enough to play the IMF because we all went to the same monetary school and have built the existing financial systems. And we all worked on the same trading floors in NYC, Frankfort and London


Anyway, you country badly need that 2.5 billion dollars from IMF and China at this point is cutting back.

Appisko:
Kenya and imf

At a Glance
2021 Projected Real GDP (% Change) : 7.6
2021 Projected Consumer Prices (% Change): 5.0
Country Population: 48.693 million
Date of Membership: February 3, 1964
Article IV/Country Report: October 23, 2018
Outstanding Purchases and Loans (SDR): 695.06 million (February 28, 2021)
Special Drawing Rights (SDR): 7.35 million
Quota (SDR): 542.8 million
Number of Arrangements since membership: 20

rvp2018:
At least for once they got Kenya population is 48.7M now. IMF is bad news. We had our trouble in 90s. We are very angry that we are back at IMF after 20yrs of peace. We know what IMF will demand - high taxes, cutback on social spending, job freezes on gov or even retrenchment, and finally cut on any development.

Your govt cannot avoid the high taxes even without IMF conditions.
The kenyan Gov't stupidly borrow to build stuffs that were never going to make profit.

The only options left for your govt is to either cut spending or astronomically increase taxes.

From the look of things, they themselves have chosen to astronomically increase taxes.

rvp2018:
Yes, we do not want IMF and their conditionalitie's. It's a nightmare. It's neo-colonialism. We are not Ghana to be dictacted by IMF in 21st century.

But you want Chinese money with even greater conditionalities that you wont even be able to avoid?

That is actual colonialism

Ghana dictates terms to IMF by setting it own pace
Kenya can't avoid Chinese terms hence why they have taken over your country.

rvp2018:
Nope. IMF bailout come attached with very bad conditionalities . This is why Ghana has completely left it's education sector to the mercies of the church.

If you want free money - go the Eurobond and take as much as you can - but obviously with bad credit rating - you'll pay Ghana like interest - sending you back to the arms of IMF

Ghana’s relationship with the IMF is a cycle of meeting targets under its programs before falling back on bad habits.

And Ghana never fulfilled any of those bad conditionalities even to the point of IMF threatening to prevent Ghana from approaching the international financial market.
It was mutually beneficial, IMF get a good name from Ghana own progress in economy and living standards while Ghana gets free money from them.

IMF money has always been free money for Ghana.
IMF knows Ghana will never forfill their terms but will still give it in order to look good to unsuspecting countries like Kenya.
How far with you 2.5 billion dollars from them?

You can read from here
GHANA WENT at it own pace and created an economy stronger and larger than that of Kenya.

And IMF got pissed each time.



Today, Kenya is at where Ghana was 40 years ago.
A higher poverty levels, undeveloped service infrastructure and an unstable political environment.

Someone is bleeding with itching hands

rvp2018:
IMF bailout broke bankrupt countries; It done that record 16 times in Ghana.

Ghana was never broke in all of those bailouts.

IMF offered great financial terms and it fostered Ghana's growth.
In return, IMF went around the world preaching it gospel to unsuspecting countries like yours who don't know much about the financial market because your people weren't educated enough.

IMF got constantly ripped off by Ghana


Your country has so much to learn so it can reduce it 40 million desperate poor people out of which 20 million are extremely poor.

[quote author=popizaino post=100719044][/quote]Fool

Now you fingers are itching you


Desperate low self esteem fool running around looking for kenyan comments to make you feel good about yourself around YouTube

rvp2018:
Let listen to your president for a change

Nana Akufo-Addo: The government in power today has received more resources – from loans, increasing tax revenues, receipts from exports – than any other government in the 60-year period of our national existence. Indeed more than probably three or four of them put together. Yet here we are, wallowing in corruption.

No serious effort has been made to tackle the structural problems confronting our nation, whether in governance or the management of our economy. No one seems to have a clear idea of what’s happened to all of this money.

The economy, four or five years ago, was considered the rising star of Africa. Ghana – everybody’s favourite African country – was on the verge of take off but is now bankrupt and back in the hands of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), begging for a billion dollars to sustain it over the next two or three years.

Desperation is when you go around the web looking for campaign propaganda from politicians 6 years ago.

Its is called political campaign postering.



The same person who said that
Also said Ghana is so rich with so much financial resources and is mustering all of them to make sure Ghana runs on a "democratic socialism" as Bernie Sanders is preaching.

rvp2018:
None of what you say is true. Here is the TRUTH - Ghana has been bankrupt more than any other Africa country for these reasons - ZERO BRAINS.

Ghana’s experience is a cautionary tale for countries that find themselves in a situation of having too much electricity at any given point. Without careful forward planning, proper data-driven analysis, and transparent, competitive, corruption-free contracting processes, any country could find itself in the same situation as Ghana.

https://theconversation.com/lessons-to-be-learnt-from-ghanas-excess-electricity-shambles-121257

Ghana has never gone Bankrupt but will use every means to play international institutions for their free money.


All of what I've said have been proven here with videos from power industry players.

I can see you are allergic to facts.


Kid you are bleeding and desperate.

How do you live in a country that can't provide simple electricity to even 50% of it population?

Is it because your coubtry is broke?
How come even Nairobi can't give water to 50% of it population?


You Kenyans and your leaders don't have brains
That is really messed up

Relevance is when you have to live all your life in a country that offer you a life of sanity yet still be bitter because they closed down your shop and preventing you from committing an illegality that would have landed you in prison.

Meanwhile you can't afford to live anywhere else on the continent.

That is how irrelevant you have become

A stateless fool

rvp2018:
You're a big fool - if you pay monthly or annually - what difference does it make - you will have paid AMERI the 500M dollars they invested; That is not BOT. You basically took a loan to build expensive useless thermal plants.

You call have enough electricity useless?

No wonder more than 50% of kenyans sleep in darkness like they are living in the dark ages .

Ameri operated the plant for 5 years and recouped their investments through selling power.

The only expensive investment in this world is having to go for a loan from China and awarding them a contract to take away all the money and yet repay the money with interest like stupid Kenya does all the time.

That is classic BOT dumb fool.
Unfortunately kenyans ain't smart enough.



4 things you've learnt so far from me.

1.BOT can be done in 5 years.
2.Ghana use 75% to 80% of it 5400MW generation capacity
3. Ghana only pay for the power it uses.
4. 90% of Ghanaians are connected to the grid.

rvp2018:
AMERI

The 17 times bankrupt nation - indoctrinated by Vatican - continue to make bad decision after another - if not paying the Brits 76B dollars not to sit on their golden stool - it electricity deals like this

Ghana President Nana Akufo-Addo fired the country’s energy minister due to proposals for a renegotiation of a $510 million private power deal with Africa Middle East Resources Investment Ltd.

Under a proposal that was submitted to lawmakers with the backing of Akufo-Addo last month, a new operator would take over running the plant in a deal that would’ve incurred Ghana $825 million in fresh costs, according to an estimate by Kwadwo Poku, country director of Gasop Oil Ghana Ltd., an Accra-based oil explorer.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-07/ghana-energy-minister-fired-due-to-power-deal-says-presidency

Ameri is one of the smartest power agreements that was signed in 2015 .

Ghana paid absolutely nothing for the plant.

Ghanaians paying the same tariffs at a competitive market rate for the power Ameri produced for 5 years has given us a free plant.

Ameri will be producing power for Ghana for the next 15 to 20 years with all the money going to VRA.


That is a smart energy agreement.

Because kenyan politicians are not smart, Ormat geothermal will keep being used by the Israelis to smoke your country dry.