₦airaland Forum

gallivant:
You are beyond dumb if you don't know the freezing temperature of water.

gallivant:
You have zero sources. Stop humoring yourself hobbit.

rvp2018:
You're national embarrassment to Ghana. Do you even listen to yourself. Snow melt at 1 degrees - so how can temperature be 20s. Do you just like arguing for it's sake mo.oron?

rvp2018:
Verbiage. The usual nonsense bereft of any factoids from the resident nutjob.

Let try some facts
ECG - ? number of customers
NEDCo - ? number of customers
Enclave Power Company Limited - ? Number of customers.

We will assume that Ghana has pop of 32M with on average 4.5 HH per house - so total household 7.1M - therefore for Ghana to claim to be at 90% - they need to have 6.3M household connected to power.

Anyway we will include customers that are not household or residential - commercial - to help you case.

Now give us latest customer figures of ECG, NEDco and Enclave.

rvp2018:
Yet Mt Kilimanjaro and Mt Kenya are permanently under snow

gallivant:
No sources no credibility Dumsor. Yours is pure noise.

rvp2018:
Educate me? That is so rich of you. They are many climates and micro-climates. Ghana and west Africa are well known - hot - that due to them being in tropics and being low lying. Abuja is like 300m above sea level. Nairobi is like 2000.

The higher you go the lower the temperatures. This is primary level education.

Take small visit - kenya, Rwanda, Ethiopia - and parts of Uganda/Tanzania - have tropical highland climate.

rvp2018:
1) Electricity access to households is the best definition to electricity access.
2) I don't care about any random houses - I care about house housing households.
3) Show me evidence that your electricity distro have 4.5M customers with 6M metered customers.
4) Again slowpoke - you just need to visit Nairobi or Adis - or ask anybody who has - to tell you how temperatures are
5) For every 1000 meter above the sea level - you lose 6 degrees in temperature - therefore Nairobi is 11 degrees lower than Accra - Adis Ababa is 13 or so.

rvp2018:
1) Electricity access - is broad term - some countries like India - anybody living 50 meters from electricity infrastructure is deemed to have access.
2) Before we proceed with random figures from your anu.s- first tell us how many HOUSES or household are there in Ghana. The answer is 7M.
3) How many customers does your electricity distros have in their database - metered customers.
4) Again moro.n TROPICAL HIGHLANDS - the highlands ensure low temperatures - the tropics ensure no major season changes(now winters or summers). 2/3 of kenyans live in tropical highlands. You DO NOT need an AC. You should see many in Nairobi if they were needed.

Shaytun:
You can’t fight facts.

Your power output is too minuscule for a country of 53 million people.

Shaytun:
If they have stable electricity without rationing then their country is in a far bigger mess

I don’t think they understand this.

rvp2018:
You're obtuse as always.
1) You true electricity access is 50%. You why. You have at least 7M household in Ghana.
2) Kenya has metered 8M household in a country of 12m household. Remember kenya is mostly rural - so we had to invest twice.
3) Our total investment in energy sector is more than 10B dollars the last decade.
4) 80% of kenya population live in tropical highlands. You simply do not need any AC.
5) I said part of those countries have tropical highlands - huge part of semi and arid kenya are very hot - but nobody lives there.

Don't just argue for it sake. Nairobi doesn't need any AC.
Nairobi
Weather averages
Overview
Graphs
MonthHigh / Low(°C)Rain
January26° / 16°4 days
February27° / 16°3 days
March27° / 16°7 days
April25° / 16°12 days
May24° / 15°9 days
June23° / 14°2 days
July22° / 13°1 day
August22° / 13°1 day
September25° / 13°2 days
October26° / 15°5 days
November24° / 16°13 days
December

rvp2018:
Sounds like you are deteriorating - did you just have your electricity cut .
I just gave you emperical data showing kenya electricity (at it worst) is twice more reliable than Ghana (at it best)
Again Kenya electricity has always been reliable - except for brief period of 1999-2001.
You installed/theorical power is large than kenya- overcapacity that send you to IMF - where you invited IPPS to come and build - power plants -after the 2015 DUMSOR crisis
However at any given time - they can only generate 2400MW - because well your gov is broke to pay IPPS -or Nigeria gas - or the network is rickety.
What you consume - if we remove system losses - and all that - I bet is 1500MW.
Now kenya - we had ambition to get to 5000MW by 2020 - but we stopped - when we realized there was no effective demand - we had the foresight to stop at 3000MW. Now we are paying overcapacity charge of 500MW. It not as bad as Ghana - who were bankrupted by overcapacity charge - and now are losing 3B dollars annually - that is like 1/5 of your budget on overcapacity charge.

As for kenya climate - Kenya sits on tropical highlands - that is why we have SNOW capped mountains.
Nairobi lies 2000M above the sea level. Temperatures through out the year over around 20-30 degrees. You don't need AC. You will not see an AC or even fan in Nairobi or most of kenya.

Tropical highlands are some of best climate a human being can live in.

Countries that enjoy such climate include parts of India, Vietnam, Ethiopia, Kenya, South Africa, Mexico, and Brazil.

In short - Tropical+Highlands - give you the best climate all year round

rvp2018:
Just shu.t up hobbit. Kenya is miles ahead of Ghana the mini zoo in Quality and Reliability of electricity. Europe of course need ACs because they live in temperate environment - with temperatures swinging;

Why would you need AC in tropical highland like kenya

rvp2018:
Even if you repeat a lie 100 times; it won't make your dumsor go away! How are you gonna survive with Ghana heat? At least kenya we only use electricity to power TV and lights : you don't need AC in most of kenya.

Wuoche:
The special thing about it is that the entire area enjoys stable electricity supply throughout the year. That's something none of Nigerian cities can enjoy.

rvp2018:
You're blurting nonsense as always on a subject you barely understand. Geothermal is so good is only renewable energy you can reliably use as base load. Kenya is investing heavily on it because after 1999 - we forgot load shedding - hydros and such nonsense.

Now the we are just about done connecting geothermal power to whole country - because it simply very high quality of power.

rvp2018:
Maintainance is daily activity - otherwise you'll be like Ghana or Nigeria - where you have to periodically rebuilding everything. Let us just say you have no maintenance culture. Now next few months - you are again rebuilding your power infrastructure almost from scratch

rvp2018:
Planned scheduled maintenance is not load shedding. it transparency. It the Kenya Law. Power companies MUST publish when power will be out due to maintianance...most of time connecting new customers.

Kenya is not a zoo where you just turn off power like Ghana.

https://kplc.co.ke/category/view/50/power-interruptions

Interruption of
Electricity Supply
Notice is hereby given under rule 27 of the Electric Power Rules
That the electricity supply will be interrupted as here under:
(It is necessary to interrupt supply periodically in order to
facilitate maintenance and upgrade of power lines to the network;
to connect new customers or to replace power lines during road
construction, etc.)

rvp2018:
What is being wasted - the water is recycled back; the earth is warming itself up; and please MO.RON GEOTHERMAL is the MOST RELIABLE renewable energy. Nothing beat it. Not hydro. Not wind. Not solar. It doesn't get moody. All you need is some little water....pump it down...it come back as steam...turn the turbines....you need more power..you pump more water....water is almost priceless.

rvp2018:
OUTAGE is not load shedding - it planned or unplanned power supply cut for few hours irregularly. Load shedding is where power is not enough - and your distro deliberately cut power -

rvp2018:
Youre just ignorant.
Most countries do not have rift valley; or geothermal potential; not everywhere you drill will be hot.
Kenya has natural hotstprings
This because great rift valley - has a ground sinking kilometers deeo - along fault lines - so if you drill a few kilometers you get almost earth crust- burning hot

This is Lake Bogoria in rift valley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpBxhdUIdQk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nre0Zgbhxd4

rvp2018:
LOL - that is South Africa - MO.RON.

rvp2018:
Just blurting nonsense for it's sake Geothermal power is very high quality; there is no single day or night; the earth crust will be cold:

rvp2018:
The last load shedding in kenya was 20 years ago - and we learnt our lesson. We invest almost zero on Hydro.

In Kenya, the drought that occurred between 1999 and 2002 drastically affected the hydro power generation and in the year 2000, hydropower generation was reduced by 25% capacity. The resultant cumulative loss was variously estimated to be about 1-1.5% of the total GDP.

Kenya’s GDP is equivalent to US$ 29.5 Billion; the estimated loss during the aforementioned drought induced power crisis was about 1.45% of GDP. This translates to US$ 442 million lost which could have been used to install 295 MW of new renewable power capacity (assuming a MW installed costs US$ I.5 million per MW).

rvp2018:
The last load shedding in kenya was 20 years ago - and we learnt our lesson. We invest almost zero on Hydro.

In Kenya, the drought that occurred between 1999 and 2002 drastically affected the hydro power generation and in the year 2000, hydropower generation was reduced by 25% capacity. The resultant cumulative loss was variously estimated to be about 1-1.5% of the total GDP.

Kenya’s GDP is equivalent to US$ 29.5 Billion; the estimated loss during the aforementioned drought induced power crisis was about 1.45% of GDP. This translates to US$ 442 million lost which could have been used to install 295 MW of new renewable power capacity (assuming a MW installed costs US$ I.5 million per MW).

rvp2018:
Long explanation for we do not have any fore planning because we are mini zoo! What is long term plan on your thermal plants -

rvp2018:
Unless you have another kenya in your head - kenya we now of - Not many people in kenya know of word load shedding! or power rationing except those of us old enough to remember 1999-2001. That was first and last time we had LOAD SHEDDING.

Why ON EARTH would kenya ever go for load shedding.

First we have many emergency power plants - these are thermal plants - they are only switched on during emergency - there are not main source of power like Ghana

Kenya have stand by generators by Aggrekos and such - idling waiting for main power station to go off

We do not use thermal plants as our source of power (ONLY MORONIC GHANA does that) - they are stand by generators.

popizaino:

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I will now allow you to obfuscate facts with your feelings. This is the report on man city vs man United match on the 8th of March same as the day there was power outage in the country. Only a fool like you will try to shift goal post to timeline when evidence has been laid bare before you.
Only a fool like you will say that a power outage that happens 1am in the night affected your football match that was played 5 hours earlier

chief liar


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/12239124/man-city-0-2-man-utd-pep-guardiolas-side-finally-beaten-by-bruno-fernandes-and-luke-shaw-goals-in-manchester-derby

rvp2018:
More like 30 minute power supply and 23 hours of darkness.
In this century - in big city like Accra - you do NOT HAVE REDUDANCY LINES

n East Africa, the Kenyan power utility, Kenya Power, has stated that over the next five years the company will spend Sh22 billion ($217 million) to upgrade the electricity grid and introduce redundant network to curb power cuts, reports local media the Daily Nation.

“One of the things we want to achieve is create a redundant network that allows the company to switch customers to alternative supply lines during planned and unplanned outages.”

The redundant network can be explained as the alternative line of supply such that if one line goes off, power is automatically supplied by the other line hence the customer stays continuously connected. The system is reported to be used in advanced economies.

According to the Daily Nation, in the current financial year, the power utility is to spend Sh5.5 billion ($5.4 million) in network refurbishment and creation of redundant network especially in the industrial zones.

Kenya Power did it in 2016
https://www.esi-africa.com/regional-news/east-africa/kenya-power-introduce-redundant-network/