₦airaland Forum

TayserMahrii:
Layman. You're saying what your unschooled great granny would say. When you borrow a loan from the bank to we dont say you took a debt. Money borrowed from lender is called loan and money borrowed through debentures and bonds is called debt. Kenya's loans will be paid at the pre-agreed intervals and interests, whether the oil prices collapse or not. This has nothing to do with english but economics. Upgrade your standards dummy.

i love your dumbness, it's a signature Kenyan trait


every money borrowed is a debt you owe
your craziness has gone beyond.

well done servicing your debt when the market has gone crazy.

gallivant:
Those are fixed liabilities, not affected by the fluctuation in oil prices unlike your revenues which are all oil based. IMF is calling for you.

sorry
oil does not makeup 10% of our revenue

Tullow is already demanding that Kenya pay it more than 10% of revenue collected.

That is bleeped up

which one is fixed liabilities ?

boy, better go and learn

TayserMahrii:
What are you saying son ? There's no connection between Kenya's loans (not debts, learn the difference) and oil market collapse. At the very least I expect you to know that the oil market collapse is a mega boon to us.

Whatever loans you take is a debt you owe



simple english

when markets go into troubles, all your bonds and bilateral loans pop.

Now you're excused to go and learn

Mzal3ndo:
We export $707M while importing $400M from SA, how are our priorities wrong? We are developing better infrastructure and more industries so that we can export more to our neighbors, how are our priorities wrong?

right thing

increase your export trade

gallivant:
Demand and supply buddy. Nothing is for free, maybe IMF bailouts.

no deflection



bad economics has caused lot of pain for your people.

gallivant:
Importing from Tanzania is cheaper than the investments needed to grow it in the Kenyan desert. Farming is a business, not an activity undertaken to please Ghanaian critics.

Stop leaching on Tanzania food reserve.

The first duty of a country is to feed it people.

Torture2020:
Thank God kenyans can see food to eat. I recall scenes from years ago when famished Kenyans were as thin as rakes I am still reading about famine in parts of Kenya even today

gallivant:
Same thing in Kenya. We only import maize and beans. It's very cheap to import, cheaper than irrigating the desert with groundwater. It's probably also environmentally friendly.

maize and beans grows everywhere

gallivant:
Egypt is a net importer of food. Why haven't they irrigated the highly fertile sand dunes of the Sahara?

because most of those that they import cant grow in the desert
They dont import things that they can grow, especially stuffs that can grow everywhere.

stuffs like Apples, cherries and etc

gallivant:
I told you already, unconducive weather and topography for agriculture. Weren't you listening?? Lol

Desert soil is highly fertile soil

All you need is irrigation, without irrigation
The land is unconducive

gallivant:
Egyptians have not irrigated the desert, just the Nile basin and it's for a reason. If you can't figure out the reason this discussion is futile.

Watch the video

They are making a portion of the desert forest.



I've been there and there are farms far out into the desert, they dig wells deep into Aquifers to irrigate

no more excuses

gallivant:
In Kenya where applicable, many farms also use the groundwater for irrigation.

good
so you have no excuse to why you cant grow common maize


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ0D45SmtAQ

mtisTheQubit:
so Egypt is using groundwater ..man do you even know anything..ever heard of Nile river

another education for you

the nile basin is desert land

The Nile water is used to irrigate the land, those far away from irrigation lands depend on ground water.

Desert being turned into a forest, Kenyans are just lazy


Northern Kenya is even sitting on a huge Aquifer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOSFKGay5Hg

mtisTheQubit:
so Egypt is using groundwater ..man do you even know anything..ever heard of Nile river

A lot of farms in Egypt use groundwater for Irrigation.

A lot of farms in Northern Ghana , Arizona desert use groundwater for irrigation.

Dumb kids
Y'all dont know anything yet yall keep making noise here


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZwBSjBgMXg&t=7s

gallivant:
They have not irrigated the Sahara desert, they have settled in the Nile basin for a reason. I am sure you know the reason why.

another excuse again?

First off, Kenya is not a desert, Egypt is.
Secondly, The nile basin is very dry and that is why Egypt is fighting for the Nile water.

Farming is all about irrigation

gallivant:
Why haven't they irrigated the Sahara desert with groundwater yet?

Egypt is doing it and has been doing it for centuries

That is why they produce 6 million metric tonnes of maize.
Egypt is practically desert .

anymore excuses?

ok, silence now

gallivant:
Irrigation channels have water sources. We can't irrigate barren land with oxygen.

groundwater is good

gallivant:
Maize production is dependent on the weather and topography. An oil producer doesn't need to import refined petroleum but Ghana and Nigeria probe otherwise.

we produce maize all year round with irrigation

we dont import refinened petroluem

our refinery is fully working

mtisTheQubit:
we are on tech stuff..maize is for the ... anyway our country is 80% arid or semi-arid

which 80% of your country is arid ?

maize is not a water-consuming crop
just a little irrigation and you are good to go.

which tech stuff do you do?
those small start ups ?

mtisTheQubit:
we are ok just30..actually we feel goood... we are not waiting for a bailout..

an okay country will not be importing 2 million bags of maize
common maize

that is a hungry country

go deal with your ballooning debts and the brewing troubles

mtisTheQubit:
fuckeduppedness how many monikers do you have..anyway i hope you have not joined vaxx an his apprentice just30 on his wilderness BS

mtisTheQubit:
Pay what sir..do you even understand the issue of contention here..stop scavaging Kenyan newspapers an assume stuff..

You owe Tullow for their work in Turkana

They want to pull out

TayserMahrii:
Now you just flipped the story around to fit the new reality I brought to you.
Initially you claimed that coronavirus is affecting indebted countries (jab aimed at kenya). When I told you German markets are collapsing and Germany isn't in debt you realized your blunder, now you're trying to wriggle your way out of this catastrophic mess.

all markets are collapsing because of the oil market collapse

i talked about that days ago

those collapses have led us to Kenya debts as investors are pulling out.

mtisTheQubit:
are we talking of the Colony or what..ths the thing bro..your country is always on the sick bed..always..you have been bailed out 16 times..if that assistance was given to somalia things would be different..
IMF does not teach countries on how to fish..they aid them with fish an thats the problem..i have spoken

we are talking about the Chinese backwater

So your government is feeling the heat just because Ghana decided to hold on to lifting Tullow gas.

Just gas problem in Ghana is already affecting your government purse ?

The disagreement over the bill also adds to Tullow’s financial constraints that have seen the firm plan to cut a third of its staff to save about $20 million after being hit by weak output in Ghana, delays in East Africa and lower-than-hoped-for oil quality in Guyana.

mtisTheQubit:
Tullow is having problems in so many countries..Our govt has called a bluff on them that's why they crying like babies

your government is crying like babies because of a 209 billion ksh bill that Tullow has given to them.

pay up and stop wailing

mtisTheQubit:
we are rich, we dont default...we not like a certain country i know

rich where

Recycling debt is why the upcoming global recession will punish you severely

your countries reserves is so small

mtisTheQubit:
first summarise your stuff..second Kenya is not much interested in oil..we are diverse economy..we dont depend on fossils to survive like other
fossil economies from WAs

diverse in what again?

a country not interested in oil will not waste 204 billion ksh on wells

TayserMahrii:
That implies you dont even know stock markets have been collapsing in Germany. See? told you ghananina operates on the micro scales. There was no deflection there, only that if you are not well versed with the current news and stock markets you wouldn't know why I posed that question.

i know and i dont mind because they are safe.

If Germany is in trouble, you are in trouble because of your debt exposure to them as they pull themselves up to safe their market.

worry about your precarious situation

TayserMahrii:
Theres no scam. kenyan armchair media calls every govt project a scam to gain readership

which one is a government project again ?

TayserMahrii:
You are in deep trouble. Wait until money from rich economies stop trickling to IMF...

We are safe
IMF 900 million has been fully paid.



Stop defaulting on the Chinese loan
Increase the patriotism tax so you can afford to pay up.

paying patriotism tax is a sign of trouble

mtisTheQubit:
We are not waiting for a bailout for crying out loud but I see one coming your way...let's call it the 17th resurrection

you are waiting for another loan from China to balance maturing debts and support the ksh as China hold on to your port as debt guarantee

mtisTheQubit:
I really really think Ghana don't know much about IMF.they don't know why many countries don't want their stuff..few countries survive imf bs. .ask greece

today, taking IMF money is better than exposing yourself up for capitulation from China